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leopold99
12-23-06, 04:36 AM
i've noticed a new feature called add a infraction to <poster name>
what is this?
what does it do?

thedevilsreject
12-23-06, 04:42 AM
ive no fucking idea but i was allowed to access the moderator forum for about 15 minutes yesterday, some crazy shit going on around here

redarmy11
12-23-06, 04:49 AM
Heh. Heh heh.

S.A.M.
12-23-06, 04:49 AM
ive no fucking idea but i was allowed to access the moderator forum for about 15 minutes yesterday, some crazy shit going on around here

http://www.sciforums.com/member.php?u=22366 ;)

everneo
12-23-06, 04:50 AM
I accidentally clicked 'give infraction' button for Lightgigantic. Hope there is no infraction added. So i tried to give infraction to some of the moderators but it is not allowed. How can i give infraction to myself??

redarmy11
12-23-06, 04:52 AM
Heh. Heh. Chuckle.

I like it. I like it a lot. ;)

Sam? Button your cakehole. :)

"You are not allowed to give warnings or infractions to Moderators."

Plazma Inferno!
12-23-06, 04:54 AM
Hi!

All Registered Senior users are now able to give infractions to other users that made some rule violation.

You have explanation beside each infraction and amount of points which will user receive.

When reached 20 points user will be automatically transferred into Pre-ban group and will be suspended for next three days, without ability to post and reply to the threads and posts.

Any further infractions carry more points and different banning period.

Any infraction abuse, i.e. where was no violation and infraction has been made in purpose to harm another user, will be punished – user who made infraction abuse will be immediately banned.

Cheers!

redarmy11
12-23-06, 04:55 AM
Erm... ulp...

Officer? :eek:

thedevilsreject
12-23-06, 04:55 AM
Heh. Heh. Chuckle.

I like it. I like it a lot. ;)

Sam? Button your cakehole. :)

"You are not allowed to give warnings or infractions to Moderators."

you son of a b@*&h

dont want to get a third for swearing

redarmy11
12-23-06, 04:56 AM
Ah right. It makes sense now..

:eek: :eek: :eek:

thedevilsreject
12-23-06, 04:56 AM
seriously i hope you dont get banned for that

i nearly pissed myself when i got the pm

S.A.M.
12-23-06, 04:56 AM
you son of a b@*&h

dont want to get a third for swearing

Expired infractions are not counted.:)

thedevilsreject
12-23-06, 04:57 AM
that 1st one has stuck since october

dont think james likes me too much

redarmy11
12-23-06, 04:57 AM
Yes, erm...

Sorry?

I know not what I do. :(

S.A.M.
12-23-06, 04:58 AM
Erm... ulp...

Officer? :eek:

It was reversed.
Talk about trigger fingers!:p

everneo
12-23-06, 04:59 AM
But that is not fair. No user, other than mods should be able to give infraction to other users. 10 nuts give infractions to a non-nut to have 20 infractions and the poor guy is on his/her way out. Those 10 nuts get banned and may come back with other names.

S.A.M.
12-23-06, 05:00 AM
But that is not fair. No user, other than mods should be able to give infraction to other users. 10 nuts give infractions to a non-nut to have 20 infractions and the poor guy is on his/her way out. Those 10 nuts get banned and may come back with other names.

Moderators can reverse unnecessary infractions and ban abusers.

redarmy11
12-23-06, 05:00 AM
I mean, I had to test it - obviously.. :(

S.A.M.
12-23-06, 05:02 AM
I mean, I had to test it - obviously.. :(

I won't hold it against you, even though you have a beautiful body.:p

redarmy11
12-23-06, 05:06 AM
Erm..

Can I not be a 'Registered Senior User', please?

That's not be a 'Registered Senior User'.

Thankyou.

* evil glint / look of helplessness *

O boy. O boy, O boy, O boy, OboyOboyOboyOboyOboy...

Nikelodeon
12-23-06, 05:07 AM
All Registered Senior users....blah blah blah.

What makes a Registered Senior User?

Plazma Inferno!
12-23-06, 05:16 AM
What makes a Registered Senior User?
To have 30 posts and above and to be registered longer than 15 days.

redarmy11
12-23-06, 05:16 AM
What makes a Registered Senior User?
Typing so much rubbish for so long that, like a bad smell, people eventually stop noticing you.

redarmy11
12-23-06, 05:18 AM
Erm.. isn't 30 posts / 15 days a bit on the short side to be handing out warnings?

Nikelodeon
12-23-06, 05:20 AM
Erm.. isn't 30 posts / 15 days a bit on the short side to be handing out warnings?

No of couse not! Now feel my WRATH!

redarmy11
12-23-06, 05:27 AM
No of couse not! Now feel my WRATH!
I think your WRATH! has got lost in the post.

Go on, I dare you.

I double-dare you. :)

Nikelodeon
12-23-06, 05:28 AM
Erm.. isn't 30 posts / 15 days a bit on the short side to be handing out warnings?

Yeah, I was thinking maybe 5000 posts, and 15 months.

redarmy11
12-23-06, 05:29 AM
Yes, or 2,284 posts and however long I've been registered.

Nikelodeon
12-23-06, 05:32 AM
Well, once I get my Spammer Degree (Masters), the World's my oyster.

spuriousmonkey
12-23-06, 05:47 AM
Yeah, I was thinking maybe 5000 posts, and 15 months.


I was thinking membership of 1 year.

Post count doesn't matter that much. But you need to have been around for at least a year to know how sciforums works.

and if we need a post count I would say 200 or so.

smile_on_a_rainyday
12-23-06, 05:53 AM
Well, once I get my Spammer Degree (Masters), the World's my oyster.

well good luck and happy spamming!!! :D

leopold99
12-23-06, 06:08 AM
But that is not fair. No user, other than mods should be able to give infraction to other users. 10 nuts give infractions to a non-nut to have 20 infractions and the poor guy is on his/her way out. Those 10 nuts get banned and may come back with other names.


Any infraction abuse, i.e. where was no violation and infraction has been made in purpose to harm another user, will be punished – user who made infraction abuse will be immediately banned.
Cheers!
those "nuts" better realize what they are doing.

thedevilsreject
12-23-06, 06:16 AM
I was thinking membership of 1 year.

Post count doesn't matter that much. But you need to have been around for at least a year to know how sciforums works.

and if we need a post count I would say 200 or so.

sam hasnt even been here a year, a year is a wee bit excessive

smile_on_a_rainyday
12-23-06, 06:21 AM
Any infraction abuse, i.e. where was no violation and infraction has been made in purpose to harm another user, will be punished – user who made infraction abuse will be immediately banned.

Cheers!

what if everyone gave out tons of infractions? wud they have to ban us all?

mwha ha ha sciforums wud b a ghost town....

m x

Nikelodeon
12-23-06, 06:23 AM
what if everyone gave out tons of infractions? wud they have to ban us all?

mwha ha ha sciforums wud b a ghost town....

m x

Well you won't be smiling anymore..... :m:

smile_on_a_rainyday
12-23-06, 06:27 AM
wooo i just realised i have 100 posts!! yay for me!!

ahhh no mayb not nickelodeon...but waheyy its xmas soon so who needs sciforums!!! lol!

m x

invert_nexus
12-23-06, 11:42 AM
No user, other than mods should be able to give infraction to other users.

I agree.
At present, this is only a test.
Personally, I hope that the feature is not permanently implemented.
It is guaranteed to cause trouble.

Every ban should be made because of a conscious human decision.
Not automated machine action.

Moderators can reverse unnecessary infractions and ban abusers.

Yes, but this is highly subjective and bound to take up huge amounts of time.
I guess it's a good thing that we have new mods all the way around. We're going to be busy, I guess...

Erm.. isn't 30 posts / 15 days a bit on the short side to be handing out warnings?

Another agreement from me.
A couple of months or 1000 posts is more like it.
This is a complicated environment and takes time for people to settle in.
30 posts is like, "Hey. You've been here a WHOLE day. Welcome to the Senate! You're a senior member now!"

I also move that the senior member be changed to something more imaginative. Something based on the Roman Senate perhaps.

But, I still hope that it doesn't even come to that...

smile_on_a_rainyday
12-23-06, 11:45 AM
We have the POWER!!!!!!!!!

mwha ha ha!

invert_nexus
12-23-06, 11:47 AM
Oh, by the way, who agrees with me that the red/yellow card icon is hideous and must go?

thedevilsreject
12-23-06, 11:48 AM
i've already handed out an infraction to sss3d

spamming mother f.....

smile_on_a_rainyday
12-23-06, 11:50 AM
Oh, by the way, who agrees with me that the red/yellow card icon is hideous and must go?

yes.

the colours SO clash! hahaha


i've already handed out an infraction to sss3d

spamming mother f.....

*round of applause*

mel x

invert_nexus
12-23-06, 11:58 AM
i've already handed out an infraction to sss3d

spamming mother f.....

Now this is one useful implementation of this function.
To report spam.
However, there is already a report feature... So it's kinda extraneous, I suppose.

Absane
12-23-06, 11:58 AM
Oh, by the way, who agrees with me that the red/yellow card icon is hideous and must go?

I think the icon is fine. However, if we cannot give warnings, then we need to get rid of the "yellow" card.

Now this is one useful implementation of this function.
To report spam.

The funny thing about his is that I do not think he is a spammer but just a guy wanting to share his enjoyment of making money on the Internet. However, as a new member it is not right for him to create threads like this as it's a quick way to get banned.

thedevilsreject
12-23-06, 11:59 AM
Now this is one useful implementation of this function.
To report spam.
However, there is already a report feature... So it's kinda extraneous, I suppose.

i agree, ive reported spam on numerous occasions, however i chose to give an infraction as it has that extra embaressment factor

invert_nexus
12-23-06, 12:00 PM
Oh, shutup, you're all hopped up on steroids and are probably color blind...
Kidding.

Seriously.
How can you say the icon is fine? It stands out in the field of grey like an eyesore.
Positively screaming at you:
"Click me! Click me, motherfucker!! CLICK ME!!!!!!!!!"

S.A.M.
12-23-06, 12:01 PM
Oh, shutup, you're all hopped up on steroids and are probably color blind...
Kidding.

Seriously.
How can you say the icon is fine? It stands out in the field of grey like an eyesore.
Positively screaming at you:
"Click me! Click me, motherfucker!! CLICK ME!!!!!!!!!"

Boy, are you set in your ways or what?

What do you suggest as an alternative?:D

invert_nexus
12-23-06, 12:01 PM
i agree, ive reported spam on numerous occasions, however i chose to give an infraction as it has that extra embaressment factor

Just one problem though.
Reporting sends a report directly to the moderator.
Adding an infraction to the user does no such thing.
Reporting spam gets results.
Adding an infraction only adds points towards action.

smile_on_a_rainyday
12-23-06, 12:02 PM
the little coloured squares are talkin to u...?

i suggest sum rest and peace and quiet :)

thedevilsreject
12-23-06, 12:02 PM
hmmm id have thought that mods and admins could see infractions that have been handed out

invert_nexus
12-23-06, 12:02 PM
What do you suggest as an alternative?

You mean as an icon?
Something understated. I'm not adept in icon design, I'm afraid. So can't really offer an alternative.
Maybe a small grey whistle?

invert_nexus
12-23-06, 12:03 PM
hmmm id have thought that mods and admins could see infractions that have been handed out

Only by viewing the user's profile as far as I'm aware.

Absane
12-23-06, 12:04 PM
Oh, shutup, you're all hopped up on steroids and are probably color blind...
Kidding.

Roid rage... I'm sorry :(

Seriously.
How can you say the icon is fine? It stands out in the field of grey like an eyesore.
Positively screaming at you:
"Click me! Click me, motherfucker!! CLICK ME!!!!!!!!!"

It probably depends on your screen resolution. On my screen, I barely notice the icon because it's so small (1680x1050 resolution). And I admt that I have yet to hand out a single infraction. The few times I have wanted to, some other mod already got their hands on them.

thedevilsreject
12-23-06, 12:04 PM
thats pretty dangerous, the only way to be sure of having an infraction to be overturned is to appeal to the admins directly?

smile_on_a_rainyday
12-23-06, 12:05 PM
ahhh imagine if sderenzi was still here...the number of infractions he wud have received....heh heh....

Absane
12-23-06, 12:05 PM
thats pretty dangerous, the only way to be sure of having an infraction to be overturned is to appeal to the admins directly?

I do not know if mods themselves can remove infractions, but I have asked the admins if such a feature can be added... we'll see.

thedevilsreject
12-23-06, 12:06 PM
ahhh imagine if sderenzi was still here...the number of infractions he wud have received....heh heh....

keep trolling and you might get some yourself ;)

:)

smile_on_a_rainyday
12-23-06, 12:08 PM
keep trolling and you might get some yourself ;)

:)

*shuts up quickly*

soz...

thedevilsreject
12-23-06, 12:09 PM
*shuts up quickly*

soz...

wow, so thats what its like to have power mwhahahaha:D

invert_nexus
12-23-06, 12:18 PM
wow, so thats what its like to have power mwhahahaha

Behold the power of CHEESE!!

thedevilsreject
12-23-06, 12:19 PM
Behold the power of CHEESE!!

not french cheese, its weak and stinks of feet, just like french people really

invert_nexus
12-23-06, 12:28 PM
its weak and stinks of feet,

Isn't that a contradiction in terms?
You should receive an infraction for contradicting yourself.

No Soup for YOU!!

Nikelodeon
12-23-06, 12:28 PM
Nazi.

redarmy11
12-23-06, 12:32 PM
I also move that the senior member be changed to something more imaginative.
I like the basic idea. I'd hate to be a 'Senior Registered User' forever. I want to progress; to go places. I want a reward for all my efforts.
Something based on the Roman Senate perhaps.
Yawn, boring. Although I quite like the idea of new users being plebs. But I think it should be based on popstars. You start off as Phil Collins or someone shite like that who no-one listens to any more, and work your way up to Britney Spears.
Every ban should be made because of a conscious human decision. Not automated machine action... It is guaranteed to cause trouble.
I know. It's going to be so delightfully apocalyptic. The hum and the fizz. The smell of the sulphur. Let the chaos begin.

smile_on_a_rainyday
12-23-06, 12:35 PM
But I think it should be based on popstars. You start off as Phil Collins or someone shite like that who no-one listens to any more, and work your way up to Britney Spears..

because everyone listens to her?? wow...now thats a goal :bugeye:

Absane
12-23-06, 12:38 PM
because everyone listens to her?? wow...now thats a goal :bugeye:

Hey! I worship the words of The Greats, which includes such influential people as Paris Hilton and Alec Baldwin.

everneo
12-23-06, 12:40 PM
Positively screaming at you:
"Click me! Click me, motherfucker!! CLICK ME!!!!!!!!!"

the red-yellow twins are tempting.

redarmy11
12-23-06, 12:42 PM
because everyone listens to her?? wow...now thats a goal :bugeye:
Yes they do. *evil glare*

everneo
12-23-06, 12:43 PM
hmmm id have thought that mods and admins could see infractions that have been handed out

they will be seeing only this all the time. if they don't, sciforum will be empty in few hours.

redarmy11
12-23-06, 12:43 PM
the red-yellow twins are tempting.
They're horny for your click. You can click them loooooong time. ;)
Hey! I worship the words of The Greats, which includes such influential people as Paris Hilton and Alec Baldwin.
But wait, that's it - celebrities!! You start off as Tom Cruise or some other loser and work your way up to de Niro or some other icon of effortless cool. Why, it's ingenious!

Absane
12-23-06, 12:54 PM
But wait, that's it - celebrities!! You start off as Tom Cruise or some other loser and work your way up to de Niro or some other icon of effortless cool. Why, it's ingenious!

Who's the top of the list? I nominate these two: Jack Nicholson and Sean Connery.

redarmy11
12-23-06, 01:00 PM
Nah - those two are strictly understudies to The Rob. The Robster. The boy they called Bobby Milk (apparently).

If fact they're not even understudies. That's Joe Pesci.

Those two are minor Family members. Made men, sure - but Bob would snuff both out in the blink of an eye and not think twice about it.

Actually, my favourite highly-workable and not-at-all inappropriate idea for the soon-to-be-implemented new hierarchy would be a crime syndicate, like the ones The Robster always runs: you start off as a thug, then work your way through burglar, pimp, conman, drug dealer, drug boss and area crime lord, before aiming for national infamy and the number 1 spot, snuffing out innocent members of the general public (aka new users) along the way. It's a surefire winner - a cross between informed, intelligent discussion and Grand Theft Auto.

S.A.M.
12-23-06, 02:06 PM
And how do you check your infractions, anyway?

Check out user profile

http://www.sciforums.com/member.php?u=25798

GeoffP
12-23-06, 02:12 PM
Check out user profile

http://www.sciforums.com/member.php?u=25798

Oooh cool...

...STILL no infractions against me? :mad:

Maybe I'm not trying hard enough.

invert_nexus
12-23-06, 02:59 PM
...STILL no infractions against me?

It's still early yet. The system has only just been opened to userland.
You're the kind of poster that will quickly accrue a large number of infractions, I deem.
I think that posters like you are an excellent demonstration of why this type of system is unsuitable for this forum.

Stryder
12-23-06, 03:09 PM
Demostration yes, as for unsuitability thats still premature to make a decision on.

For instance if GeoffP suddenly has a bunch of people giving him infractions it could show abuse, however those people that give the infractions would be potentially "dicing with death" in the sense that their un-necessary infractions would potentially cause them to suffer a worse fate than GeoffP would should he end up with an inflated Infraction list.

It could be then questioned that GeoffP baiting people to give him Infractions is in itself an Infraction, since he's asking for mayhem.

I would suggest posters do not give GeoffP infractions for his post in this instance and he should be "Warned" not to incite riots in regards to baiting infractions. (Let it be a warning to all, Don't Bait for infractions as that will not be taken lightly in the future.)

invert_nexus
12-23-06, 03:20 PM
Demostration yes, as for unsuitability thats still premature to make a decision on.


I'm not talking about his post in this thread, but his general posting style.
He is a controversial poster who says things that many don't like to hear and have violent disagreement with.
He's sure to be one of the first posters to suffer from this.
I could name several others.

redarmy11
12-23-06, 03:20 PM
Demostration yes, as for unsuitability thats still premature to make a decision on.

For instance if GeoffP suddenly has a bunch of people giving him infractions it could show abuse, however those people that give the infractions would be potentially "dicing with death" in the sense that their un-necessary infractions would potentially cause them to suffer a worse fate than GeoffP would should he end up with an inflated Infraction list.

It could be then questioned that GeoffP baiting people to give him Infractions is in itself an Infraction, since he's asking for mayhem.

I would suggest posters do not give GeoffP infractions for his post in this instance and he should be "Warned" not to incite riots in regards to baiting infractions. (Let it be a warning to all, Don't Bait for infractions as that will not be taken lightly in the future.)
How exquisitely complicated. Hark, can you hear the hounds of Beelzebub?

invert_nexus
12-23-06, 03:23 PM
Look to the sky, way up on high
There in the night stars are now right.
Eons have passed: now then at last
Prison walls break, Old Ones awake!
They will return: mankind will learn
New kinds of fear when they are here.
They will reclaim all in their name;
Hopes turn to black when they come back.
Ignorant fools, mankind now rules
Where they ruled then: it's theirs again

Stars brightly burning, boiling and churning
Bode a returning season of doom

Scary scary scary scary solstice
Very very very scary solstice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ftld7Ohojg

They will return...

smile_on_a_rainyday
12-23-06, 03:47 PM
Look to the sky, way up on high
There in the night stars are now right.
Eons have passed: now then at last
Prison walls break, Old Ones awake!
They will return: mankind will learn
New kinds of fear when they are here.
They will reclaim all in their name;
Hopes turn to black when they come back.
Ignorant fools, mankind now rules
Where they ruled then: it's theirs again

Stars brightly burning, boiling and churning
Bode a returning season of doom

Scary scary scary scary solstice
Very very very scary solstice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ftld7Ohojg

They will return...

thats quite freaky....altho the tune will be COMPLETELY stuck in my head!!

its the same tune from the TK Max adverts as well....

we're bein bombarded by the Ukranian Bell Carol!!!!! hahaha!

m x

Stryder
12-23-06, 04:04 PM
How exquisitely complicated. Hark, can you hear the hounds of Beelzebub?

Inevitably the need for simplification for those that find my literary extravagances subjugating. With reference to my formerly extended points.

"Do not ask or bait for infraction points or someones going to bust your balls."

As for hearing the quadrupedal canine with it's bark of rapture, I heard none, especially in regard to the Lord of the Flies.

I guess you can say I like to be in-depth with my literacy and occasionally over-complex my assertions, so even the quaintest of professors blush with an anxious bemusement over meaningful but absent pleasantries.

"I write stuff long winded either as a characterization or just to mess with you. In this case, probably the latter."

I hope that clears it up :)

GeoffP
12-24-06, 01:03 AM
It's still early yet. The system has only just been opened to userland.
You're the kind of poster that will quickly accrue a large number of infractions, I deem.

Yes, I rather suspect I might. Time will tell as I skirt legalistically around the porcelain rim; Boytano has nothing on me.

I think that posters like you are an excellent demonstration of why this type of system is unsuitable for this forum.

Personally, I think that I am an excellent demonstration of why I am unsuitable for any forum.

My apologies for the foregoing; while there is indeed a strong streak of mayhem in my heart, I don't really wish to disrupt the forum. Nor to generate the uncomfortable consideration of whether spurious Infractions are, themselves an Infraction, or whether indeed calling for Infractions is itself an Infraction. Personally, I do admit some support for the "Britney Spears system" suggested previously, but only on basis of my admiration for slutty women with boob jobs.

I thank Stryder for his consideration, and wish invert_nexus a very Merry Post-Shuggothian Season and express my hopes that his soul will not be devoured when C'thulu rises from his death sleep in R'yleh, or, if it is, that it at least will be done quickly and before he is driven howling mad.

Season's Greetings and C'thulu f'tarn to one and all.

Geoff

The Devil Inside
12-24-06, 07:02 AM
my great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfather once met Dagon at a wine & cheese party. charming fellow, im told.

glaucon
12-24-06, 03:32 PM
I just noticed the little 'add an infraction' button.

What the hell is this??

thedevilsreject
12-24-06, 03:34 PM
*smacks fist against head*

there is a sticky already on this matter

invert_nexus
12-24-06, 03:37 PM
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=61330

glaucon
12-24-06, 03:40 PM
OK.
So, I read the whole thread, and there's no explanation of the reasons an infraction might be given....


Overall though, since when did the site vote in a fascist government?

thedevilsreject
12-24-06, 03:42 PM
OK.
So, I read the whole thread, and there's no explanation of the reasons an infraction might be given....


Overall though, since when did the site vote in a fascist government?

erm...you do realise giving everyone power to hand out infractions is entirely the opposite to fascism

glaucon
12-24-06, 03:44 PM
erm...you do realise giving everyone power to hand out infractions is entirely the opposite to fascism

I thought it was only Mod's who could.

Regardless, you're wrong.
It would be universal fascism.

invert_nexus
12-24-06, 03:44 PM
When you click the button it provides the list:

Inappropriate Language 2 10 Day(s)
Off-Topic Posting 2 10 Day(s)
Flaming 3 10 Day(s)
Trolling / Meaningless Post Content 3 10 Day(s)
Posting Violent, Abusive or Pornographic Content 4 10 Day(s)
Spammed Advertisements 5 10 Day(s)
Insulted Other Member(s) 5 10 Day(s)
Overall though, since when did the site vote in a fascist government?

It's always been fascist.
Now it's apparently trying an experiment at anarchism.
Power to the people and whatnot.

It probably won't work out.

redarmy11
12-24-06, 03:46 PM
No, glaucon is right. It's fascism.

Sciforums: 'we encourage you to shop a neighbour'.

glaucon
12-24-06, 03:46 PM
Thanks for that invert.

Seems exceptionally silly to me.

I'm supposed to give an infraction to lightgigantic every time he posts?

Too much work.

invert_nexus
12-24-06, 03:48 PM
An automatically instituted three day ban occurs at 20 points.
So far that's the only programmed response, I believe.

tablariddim
12-24-06, 04:41 PM
It's a stab at democratic moderation. Thing is, it's open to abuse and moderators will have their time cut out chasing the abusers and trying to ascertain whether indeed the infraction was warranted or not.

redarmy11
12-24-06, 04:46 PM
Typical. At least Hitler made the trains run on time.

spuriousmonkey
12-25-06, 03:19 AM
Anyone using the word 'hitler' gets automatically 20 infraction points.

Luckily moderators can't get infraction points, be it from members or from using the word 'hitler'.

Otherwise I would now have accumulated 2,340 infraction points.

Killjoy
12-25-06, 10:19 AM
...Thing is, it's open to abuse and moderators will have their time cut out chasing the abusers and trying to ascertain whether indeed the infraction was warranted or not.

That's just the sort of thing they should be doing, like good little apparatchiks.

Nikelodeon
12-25-06, 01:34 PM
Is there a list of who gives out the most infractions?

GeoffP
12-25-06, 02:48 PM
Anyone using the word 'hitler' gets automatically 20 infraction points.

Luckily moderators can't get infraction points, be it from members or from using the word 'hitler'.

Otherwise I would now have accumulated 2,340 infraction points.

It's 2380 now.

tablariddim
12-25-06, 03:45 PM
I just awarded someone my first infraction...FUCK! Power feels GOOD!

thedevilsreject
12-25-06, 03:51 PM
who to?

leopold99
12-25-06, 07:54 PM
hey, i just noticed this has been made a sticky!

top that you noobs! :cool:

S.A.M.
12-25-06, 07:56 PM
hey, i just noticed this has been made a sticky!

top that you noobs! :cool:

But of course it has. Its also been moved. ;)

MetaKron
12-27-06, 07:50 PM
I will not give infractions until and unless they are subject to a moderator's approval prior to points being assessed. This kind of thing is way too easy to abuse.

leopold99
12-27-06, 08:00 PM
i've seen two examples already.

S.A.M.
12-27-06, 08:02 PM
i've seen two examples already.

Which ones?

If anyone feels that a user has been given an infraction that is unfair, they should report it because we may miss it sometimes.

invert_nexus
12-27-06, 08:15 PM
Welcome back, Metakron.

MetaKron
12-27-06, 08:28 PM
Thank you.

It's not just that the infractions might be unfair, but someone might intentionally or unintentionally shut someone down.

Nikelodeon
12-29-06, 09:19 AM
Oh, by the way, who agrees with me that the red/yellow card icon is hideous and must go?

Totally.

tablariddim
12-29-06, 09:59 AM
Replace red/yellow cards with a white gloved hand indicating, 'stop'?

Gustav
01-03-07, 10:17 AM
Effective immediately, SF Open Government is closed to all motions to ban users and all motions to take punitive action against moderators. Complaints about users can be made to moderators directly. Complaints about moderators can be made to me directly.

This forum has proven to be divisive, ineffective, and has taken the focus of members and moderators away from the core discussion forums here.

too bad the new fuckers cant take a hint
what was that saying....."doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past.."

Meanwhile,
01-03-07, 10:47 AM
They couldn't even grant themselves the luxury and privilege as owners to opt for a logo/banner that only they themselves would/could choose -- they had to ask. Lack of self-confidence?

Dr Lou Natic
01-03-07, 06:11 PM
I just awarded someone my first infraction...FUCK! Power feels GOOD!
Indeed.
What kind of fucking wankers are complaining about finally having some sceric of power?
How low can someone's self esteem be that they're bothered by acquiring the right to have a say?

What annoys me is that the mods can't recieve infractions, it would have made sense back when it was a jamesR dictatorship but now that there is something of a council of mods you'd expect them to be held somewhat accountable for their actions.
It would actually make more sense if mods were the ONLY ones who could recieve infractions.

One other thing, there needs to be way way more options to click for why you're giving them an infraction.

Bells
01-03-07, 07:18 PM
What annoys me is that the mods can't recieve infractions, it would have made sense back when it was a jamesR dictatorship but now that there is something of a council of mods you'd expect them to be held someone accountable for their actions.
It would actually make more sense if mods were the ONLY ones who could recieve infractions.
Heh!

Or you could always send the mod in question a PM asking to see their 'tatas' as a form of apology if said mod gave you an infraction.

Eh Lou?

:)

redarmy11
01-03-07, 09:18 PM
Can I just thank whoever it was who reversed the infraction I gave Lou? He didn't have the decency to return the compliment.

TruthSeeker
01-04-07, 02:10 PM
Oooook... So I got an invalid infraction from Dr LouNatic.
What do I do now? :confused:

Dr Lou Natic
01-04-07, 03:17 PM
Well it's already been reversed, unfairly I might add.
On what grounds do you classify it as invalid?
I found your langauge to be inappropriate.
You said "shit", and I don't believe the situation called for it.
Bottom line, valid infraction.
It's validity, in light of all other factors, is litterally factually concrete.
It's valid in accordance with the guidelines.
The fact it was reversed is what is highly questionable.

What do I do now? Now that my valid infraction has been reversed? Lose faith in mankind? Join a street gang?

spuriousmonkey
01-04-07, 03:47 PM
I reversed the infraction you were given (that's the one Dr Lou got).

your friendly biology & genetics mod.

redarmy11
01-04-07, 07:45 PM
Why? He was swearing or something about 2 years ago.

spuriousmonkey
01-05-07, 03:08 AM
because i can. :confused:

Meanwhile,
01-05-07, 03:17 AM
This whole thing reminds one of a kindergarten game; a sort of Tag and Pin A Tail On The Donkey. Having fun boys and girls?

spuriousmonkey
01-05-07, 03:18 AM
Not really.

Meanwhile,
01-05-07, 05:55 AM
Aaaah. ime shoa-wy tu heer tat. itch ah-white.

TruthSeeker
01-05-07, 01:25 PM
Well it's already been reversed, unfairly I might add.
On what grounds do you classify it as invalid?
I found your langauge to be inappropriate.
You said "shit", and I don't believe the situation called for it.
Bottom line, valid infraction.
It's validity, in light of all other factors, is litterally factually concrete.
It's valid in accordance with the guidelines.
The fact it was reversed is what is highly questionable.

What do I do now? Now that my valid infraction has been reversed? Lose faith in mankind? Join a street gang?
I see you already have a collection of infractions yourself.... :D:D

Killjoy
01-05-07, 05:42 PM
Well it's already been reversed, unfairly I might add.
On what grounds do you classify it as invalid?
I found your langauge to be inappropriate.
You said "shit", and I don't believe the situation called for it.
Bottom line, valid infraction.
It's validity, in light of all other factors, is litterally factually concrete.
It's valid in accordance with the guidelines.
The fact it was reversed is what is highly questionable.


Which is it ?

Valid because the "guidelines" require the action,

or

Valid because you "don't believe the situation called for it. "

If the former refers to a rule governing/forbidding use of such language, than a list of prohibited terms should be posted, and all violations should be punished by infraction.

If the latter, than there is at bottom no standard whatever, there is merely "the rule of whim".

redarmy11
01-06-07, 02:54 AM
If the latter, than there is at bottom no standard whatever, there is merely "the rule of whim".
Bingo. He threw a die (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dice_Man).

(Yes, that's right - I'm spamming 'The Dice Man' again. Seriously, read it people..)

Stryder
01-06-07, 11:21 AM
Infractions for foul language shouldn't really be given, afterall the forums software permits the use of banning certain words and replacing them with alias (asterix) characters. The system itself wouldn't take much to create an Auto-infraction system for people attempting to post vial words therefore relieving the need for infraction handouts by moderators or posters, however I don't really need to post just how ludicrous the posters would think of such an automaton "police state" system.

Sputnik
01-06-07, 12:18 PM
Bingo. He threw a die (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dice_Man).

(Yes, that's right - I'm spamming 'The Dice Man' again. Seriously, read it people..)


Reminds me of this one : http://www.rastetter-wacker.de/Barks-Flipism.htm

Nikelodeon
01-17-07, 03:24 AM
I still find the yellow/red card icon annoying.

PS how do you give someone a yellow card?

Absane
01-17-07, 07:11 AM
I still find the yellow/red card icon annoying.

PS how do you give someone a yellow card?

The yellow card used to be just a warning... now we don't have that option.

Nikelodeon
01-17-07, 08:04 AM
ahhh imagine if sderenzi was still here...
Maybe he is.....

Killjoy
01-17-07, 03:48 PM
I still find the yellow/red card icon annoying.

It's the concept that's annoying. The icon is just one more bit of visual twaddle which faded into the background after seeing it a few times.

The idea, however, is like another tendril of a bloated bureaucracy slithering insidiously up one's backside to suck the nutrition from half-broken down foodstuffs intended for one's intestines to slurp on merrily.

Why, right next to the "cards", screaming redundant !!! is the plain old grey "report" button which seemed sufficient to bring to the attention of the administration any untoward post content before the advent of "mod proliferation".

The sole beneficial side ~ effect of the idea might be to give Ye Olde Tin Plated Council Of The Wise something to do chasing down infractions to determine whether or not they have any validity.

but, eh...
W'otever.

LoL

glaucon
01-17-07, 04:35 PM
...
however I don't really need to post just how ludicrous the posters would think of such an automaton "police state" system.

And how is it that the current system is any different from such an "automaton 'police state'"??


Sad that I have to quote N.W.A. but,

"Fuck the police."

Genji
01-17-07, 08:17 PM
My infraction expired days ago and it's still on my profile. My boo-boo was caught by a far right moderator so I'm assuming he's leaving it up to provoke a response. Damn. I shoulda kept my mouth shut.:bugeye:

IceAgeCivilizations
01-17-07, 09:24 PM
Genji, you have only an infraction? The mods definitely then have a liberal bias.

Genji
01-17-07, 09:25 PM
Genji, you have only an infraction? The mods definitely then have a liberal bias.None of your poopy business is it?

IceAgeCivilizations
01-17-07, 09:28 PM
How liberal of you.

Genji
01-17-07, 09:45 PM
How liberal of you.Haven't been a liberal since 1984.

James R
01-18-07, 12:12 AM
Looks like your infraction was reversed, Genji. That means it no longer counts.

Genji
01-18-07, 12:15 AM
Looks like your infraction was reversed, Genji. That means it no longer counts.I wondered what that meant. So it stays parked on my profile for life? Like a scarlet letter?:(

James R
01-18-07, 12:49 AM
Not sure. I think your profile shows your last 5 or 6 infractions, or something like that.

Genji
01-18-07, 01:15 AM
Not sure. I think your profile shows your last 5 or 6 infractions, or something like that.
:eek: 5 or 6? Only Geoff's shows. I need them removed if they're expired.

madanthonywayne
01-18-07, 01:17 AM
My infraction expired days ago and it's still on my profile. My boo-boo was caught by a far right moderator so I'm assuming he's leaving it up to provoke a response. Damn. I shoulda kept my mouth shut.:bugeye:
We have a far right moderator? Who is it?

Genji
01-18-07, 01:19 AM
We have a far right moderator? Who is it?Geoff. He's Right of Francisco Franco. :mad:

spuriousmonkey
01-18-07, 01:58 AM
Genji. Everybody can give an infraction. Geoff is not a moderator.


Only moderators can reverse an infraction.

Here you can find a list of current moderators:
http://sciforums.com/showgroups.php

Nikelodeon
01-18-07, 01:59 AM
Geoff should be moderator.

spuriousmonkey
01-18-07, 02:00 AM
You to.

Nikelodeon
01-18-07, 02:02 AM
You to.
Maybe Geoff and I can get together to form a supermoderator.

spuriousmonkey
01-18-07, 02:04 AM
good, we need another one.

Nikelodeon
01-18-07, 02:24 AM
I've always said we need more Islamofacist Nazi moderators.

Ophiolite
01-18-07, 03:42 PM
So we are working on the stick approach, rather than the carrot. Why doesn;t that surprise me?

Ophiolite
01-18-07, 03:50 PM
too bad the new fuckers cant take a hint
what was that saying....."doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past.."
I haven't insulted your inconsequential personage for some considerable time, so it seemed appropriate to seek out your latest post and observe that your style hasn't changed: you continue to post candy floss - minus the sugar.

GeoffP
01-18-07, 05:13 PM
Geoff should be moderator.

I cannot agree more categorically with this well-thought-out position.

Also, I love scarves.

I'm just saying.

GeoffP
01-18-07, 05:14 PM
Geoff. He's Right of Francisco Franco. :mad:

Oh, balls. I'm just more to the middle of Karl Marx.

Genji
01-18-07, 05:28 PM
Genji. Everybody can give an infraction. Geoff is not a moderator.


Only moderators can reverse an infraction.

Here you can find a list of current moderators:
http://sciforums.com/showgroups.phpOMG! So Geoff's infraction isn't real? Can be dismissed? Why is it on my profile though? I've fired several infractions at the theist terrorist club here and never has one appeared with my name on their profile. Hmm. I smell a vast rightwing conspiracy.:mad:

GeoffP
01-18-07, 06:40 PM
Oh yes. Very vast. So vast you could not possibly comprehend. So, we're not going to tell you about it.

Carry on with your social interactions, citizen. And pay your taxes.

Genji
01-18-07, 07:51 PM
Oh yes. Very vast. So vast you could not possibly comprehend. So, we're not going to tell you about it.

Carry on with your social interactions, citizen. And pay your taxes.:bugeye: :cool:

madanthonywayne
01-18-07, 11:06 PM
Damn, it seems like half the members here are moderators!
Moderator List:
(Q)
Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology

Absane
Free Thoughts

Athelwulf
Free Thoughts

Bells
Human Science

Cris
Religion

goofyfish
Politics, World Events

invert_nexus
Art & Culture

James R
Physics & Math, Religion

kmguru
Eastern Philosophy, Intelligence & Machines

Pete
Physics & Math

samcdkey
Science & Society

SkinWalker
History, Religion

spidergoat
General Philosophy, Politics, World Events

spuriousmonkey
Biology & Genetics

Stryder
Computer Science & Culture, Pseudoscience

tiassa
Ethics, Morality, & Justice

Tristan
Earth Science, General Science & Technology, SciFi

vslayer
Free Thoughts

invert_nexus
01-18-07, 11:13 PM
Good thing you're all such good little boys and girls so we don't have to do anything...

Mostly we just strut around with socks rolled up in our pants and deal with spammers on occasion.

Killjoy
01-19-07, 12:09 AM
Damn, it seems like half the members here are moderators!


It's like looking at some nauseating list of civil service patronage pork hirings.
:p

Nikelodeon
01-19-07, 02:12 AM
I think all the moderators should be working exclusively full time to keep on top of Kiwis sockpuppets.

spuriousmonkey
01-19-07, 02:22 AM
That's all we do.

Nikelodeon
01-19-07, 02:26 AM
That's all we do.
Well keep up the good work.