Hi to all, this is my first post here and i write from Italy where the last saturday there was an sighting who was persevered for 7 hours in a zone of Milano (I live in the south of Italy and i've heard the news from internet and then TGs and newspapers...)
So...
This is (http://emilianorizzo.altervista.org/go(2).wma) one of the firsts news about this sighting from RTL 102,5
then...
a link from ansa (http://www.ansa.it/main/notizie/awnplus/italia/news/2006-02-05_731225.html)
TGcom (http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/cronaca/articoli/articolo295068.shtml)
and now the photos of a photograph http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4397/ufoovermilan040220069ba.jpg


Just elapse 23:00 (local hour) some light point has been saw from some people of Lorenteggio-Bisceglie (a zone of Milan) in the Ovest periphery.
“I’ve saw five strange stars-said the photograph-They were still and then they moved”- In the place also a patrol of municipal police is arrived. This sighting was see also from Alessandro Miano, a member of Movement of Consumer. At the beginning they appeared as stars but then… sparkling and the color was red and green. They have changed one more time the shape”
The photograph said “Sincerely I don’t know what think”
This phenomenon is continued up to sunrise, from 23:00 to 5.00 about
English Link 1 (http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=5137)
Footage (http://www.ufocasebook.com/milanoitalyfeb2006video.html)

Now...this is my opinion about this:

An airplan this isn't of course; but neither an atmospheric phenomenon because if was this... all Milano must see it
This is an UFO in the real sense of the word but i don't exclude some E.T interference....
If you want read the articles and don't understand the italian, a translator software can help you

Welcome and thanks for that. The heavens are being torn asunder. Wonder what the pope thinks. Do you think he might see visitors from other dimensions or planets as possible converts to Christ? :D :D "Aliens for Jesus" would be a great bumper sticker.

ever see the southpark episode "red hot catholic love"?

aliens ARE catholics...the Gilgameks.

FASCINATING... did the italian airforce track it?? fly up to it??

see it on radar??

-MT

No, people haven't heard jet sounds i suppose that it was sleeping :rolleyes:
But is strange that not even an elicopter was there to see what did occurring
moreover there wasn't any declaration from the controllors of Linate and Malpensa

Paola Harris is right, something big is about to happen.

Copy from the net;

Prominent Italian UFO Investigator Paola Harris reports from Italy: "Saturday night over Milan there was a Sighting of 5 Objects that lingered in the air from 11:00 PM till 5:00 AM and our TV news channels covered it. Like the Phoenix lights, no one knows what to do."
The story was covered on Italian Television and in the news media, and the conclusion was drawn that the objects were unexplained. Unlike the Phoenix lights, however, there were no US military bases in the area that could issue false claims of dropping flares, so the objects at this time remain a pure unknown.

Paola Harris also states, "something is in the air that tells me something " big" is about to happen," and Whitley Strieber agrees that this is possible. "From the beginning, I have speculated that extended interaction might start with a series of protracted appearances like this one over major cities. If this is correct, then the phenomenon will spread to other large cities in the near future."

Initially, witnesses assumed that the objects were stars, but they changed both color and shape, causing observers to call police and news media.

:D

7 hours and no video? What gives?

7 hours and no video? What gives?

yes, is strange (but at the north of italy they go to bed quickly and the saturday pheraps more later) as that no elicopter has flown to see what did happening there
another fact is that the govern and the air force didn't done any official declaration about this
The firsts astronomer consulted ( i suppose that one is Margherita Hack) said that it was a meteorologic ballon :rolleyes:
This apology is old of 50 years

**Updates**

Link (http://www.dnamagazine.it/uforama312.html)

Nel corso del servizio si è anche affermato che le Autorità Militari dell'aeroporto di Milano/Linate interpellate nel merito,hanno asserito di non hanno ricevuto riscontri radarici (segno che non si trattava di oggetti materiali).Il Presidente del CUN,Roberto PINOTTI,ha dichiarato ai giornalisti del TG5 che trattasi di ""un fenomeno senza spiegazioni convenzionali,non legato a particolari condizioni metereologiche""
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During a reportage of a TG it said that the militar authority of Milano/Linate didn't see any signs on the radars
Roberto Pinotti, the president of CUN (National Ufo Center) has declared that: it's a phenomenon without explanations

Paola Harris also states, "something is in the air that tells me something " big" is about to happen," and Whitley Strieber agrees that this is possible.

Ooo! Whitley! :p

Thanks for this story, y2k. I'll look into it a little later.

now i'm thinking that it was a paranormal activity if they hadn't rilevated any signs on the radars

now i'm thinking that it was a paranormal activity if they hadn't rilevated any signs on the radars

Such a thing may or may not show up on radar.

A surveillance plane in Mexico a year or so ago registered some objects on their radar, as well as infrared equipment.

It was posited that these were flares from oil rigs on the ocean.

The plane had made this same route on other occasions, but never observed anything like this before.


MEXICO CITY, Mexico (AP) -- Mexican Air Force pilots filmed 11 unidentified objects in the skies over southern Campeche state, a Defense Department spokesman confirmed Tuesday.

A videotape made widely available to the news media on Tuesday shows the bright objects, some sharp points of light and others like large headlights, moving rapidly in what appears to be a late-evening sky.

The lights were filmed on March 5 by pilots using infrared equipment. They appeared to be flying at an altitude of about 3,500 meters (11,480 feet), and allegedly surrounded the Air Force jet as it conducted routine anti-drug trafficking vigilance in Campeche. Only three of the objects showed up on the plane's radar.

"Was I afraid? Yes. A little afraid because we were facing something that had never happened before," said radar operator Lt. German Marin in a taped interview made public Tuesday.

"I couldn't say what it was ... but I think they're completely real," added Lt. Mario Adrian Vazquez, the infrared equipment operator. Vazquez insisted that there was no way to alter the recorded images.

The plane's captain, Maj. Magdaleno Castanon, said the military jets chased the lights "and I believe they could feel we were pursuing them."

When the jets stopped following the objects, they disappeared, he said.

A Mexican Defense Department spokesman confirmed Tuesday that the videotape was filmed by members of the Mexican Air Force. The spokesman declined to comment further and spoke on customary condition of anonymity.

The video was first aired on national television Monday night then again at a news conference Tuesday by Jaime Maussan, a Mexican investigator who has dedicated the past 10 years to studying UFOs.

"This is historic news," Maussan told reporters. "Hundreds of videos (of UFOs) exist, but none had the backing of the armed forces of any country. ... The armed forces don't perpetuate frauds."

Maussan said Secretary of Defense Gen. Ricardo Vega Garcia gave him the video on April 22.

If they were merely oil rigs, it is peculiar that three of them would have been acknowledged by radar. The oil flare would only account for the infrared. And the infrared tape shows the objects disappearing quite suddenly.

I'm open to speculation on that particular case.

so, you think that also here we have had some oil flare on this area?

yes, is strange (but at the north of italy they go to bed quickly

The entire population was in bed? Well, apart from whoever took those pictures, and they didn't call anybody in seven whole hours to get some video?

I smell BULLSHIT!

eh, this ufo has been saw only in this area, i don't know the exact number of witnesses but, there were
The photograph for that we know has done only some photos

Sounds like complete BS. Some bright objects maybe changed colour a little, maybe moved, but pretty much stayed still for seven hours? Sounds like a combination of brights stars and planets, not UFOs.

It looks like Venus to me. The change in color would be consistent with changes in atmospheric densities. I could be wrong. It might not be Venus. It might be Mars. It seems far, far more likely to be a planet than a alien spacecraft.

But without more data, it remains "unknown," though there is no evidence to suggest it is "flying."

Such a thing may or may not show up on radar.

A surveillance plane in Mexico a year or so ago registered some objects on their radar, as well as infrared equipment.

It was posited that these were flares from oil rigs on the ocean.

http://www.csicop.org/si/2004-09/campeche.html

Robert Schaeffer wrote a good piece about this. See above.

I thought it looked like Mars, at first.

Ho hum.

Sounds like complete BS. Some bright objects maybe changed colour a little, maybe moved, but pretty much stayed still for seven hours? Sounds like a combination of brights stars and planets, not UFOs.

I agree, you would have thought they would move about a bit.

After a quick look at StarFinder, I would think it to be Vega, the 5th brightest star in the sky. It should have been directly overhead.

phlogistician
25 videos and thousands of Belgian saw this, including police and military. Oh I almost forgot, in your case everybody have a delusion.
http://home.pacbell.net/joerit/docs2/world/belgium.htm

Giambattista
Yes!

phlogistician
25 videos and thousands of Belgian saw this, including police and military. Oh I almost forgot, in your case everybody have a delusion.
http://home.pacbell.net/joerit/docs2/world/belgium.htm

Giambattista
Yes!

You seem to have a delusion Qorl, that the Belgian case is somehow relevant to this one?

I don't want an already debunked story regurgitating, Qorl, I want footage of a supposed UFO that appeared for seven frikking hours. If it was truly spectacular, and strange, you'd have thought a news crew could get there in seven hours!

Oh, and Qorl, I don't buy your bullshit, so don't waste your effort addressing posts to me directly. You are a troll, away with you.

LasThursday there was a unknow helicopter (http://forum.meteogiornale.it/showthread.php?t=13012&page=2) sighthing :bugeye:
For you i'll translate a part of the witness
Last Thursday i went back to home at 13:00 and at the afternoon i must go to Bordeaux, from Linate. On the ss142 in direction of Bergamo i see an Apache at an altitude not more of 500m and disarmed. But in Italy there aren't apache and i haven't distinguish any enseign. At 24:00 on friday i saw another unknow helicopter. It's normal that from my home i see helicopter, but not at that hour and they could easly see .

A coincidence?
Please, tell me some other forum (Ufo community)where post the news about the sighthing of Milan
if is spam send me by MP the link

You seem to have a delusion Qorl, that the Belgian case is somehow relevant to this one?

I don't want an already debunked story regurgitating, Qorl, I want footage of a supposed UFO that appeared for seven frikking hours. If it was truly spectacular, and strange, you'd have thought a news crew could get there in seven hours!

Oh, and Qorl, I don't buy your bullshit, so don't waste your effort addressing posts to me directly. You are a troll, away with you.


When a man is wrong and won't admit is, he always gets angry. ~ Thomas Haliburton

Anger and hatred are the materials from which hell is made. ~ Thich Nhat Hanh

Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing in at someone else -- You are the one who gets burned. ~ The Buddha

Anger and intolerance are the enemies of correct understanding. ~ Mahatma Gandhi

Temper is the one thing you can't get rid of by losing it. ~ Jack Nicklaus

There is no enemy more vicious than your own anger. ~ Sathya Sai Baba

For every minute you are angry, you lose sixty seconds of happiness. ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson

Anger is a brief madness. ~ Horace, Epistles, Book I, 20 B.C.

Anger supplies arms. ~ Virgil, Aeneid, 19 B.C.

You can't catch water with a fist. ~ JoJo Jensen, Dirt Farmer Wisdom, 2002

If you are patient in one moment of anger you will avoid one hundred days of sorrow. ~ Ancient Proverb

Too lazy to think up any retorts, eh Qorl? Using the wisdom of others?

LasThursday there was a unknow helicopter (http://forum.meteogiornale.it/showthread.php?t=13012&page=2) sighthing :bugeye:
For you i'll translate a part of the witness


A coincidence?
Please, tell me some other forum (Ufo community)where post the news about the sighthing of Milan
if is spam send me by MP the link

I've run across one several times, but I can't think of the name right now. I'll let you know when I find it again!

The helicopter has probably come from an army base somewhere in europe, i see unkown helicopters all the time

The helicopter has probably come from an army base somewhere in europe, i see unkown helicopters all the time

You see the police helo Hedd, and perhaps occasionaly and Air Training Corps one. No "Mysterious helos" around here.

I've written an article about this sighting on http://www.spazioufo.com in this articl I analize the images caught during the sighting, the images that I've processed are (at the moment) the only elaborations available! no one else tried to study the Ovnis and I can say (due to my elaborations) that I don't consider them planets or stars.......even if some images could let us think to stars or planets.
http://www.spazioufo.com/news-71.asp

the ovnis were visible for some hours and were in movement!! they also change their shape!
In my article I also make a comparison with a famous ovni sighted during Apollo 13 mission. We can truly say that the Apollo 13 ovni and the Milan Ovnis are really similar.

I would like to know what do you think about it!

Thx

OLDGREY :cool:

Okay, OldGrey,

Are you really an old grey man? Old grey alien? Whatnot?

I'll take a look at your links provided later.

After a quick look at StarFinder, I would think it to be Vega, the 5th brightest star in the sky. It should have been directly overhead.

Do you refute this statement? As it stands, knowing little about this sighting other than the original person's statements, I didn't pay it much heed.

Is Skinwalker correct?

The only thing that could be said about the photos linked are that they are clearly points of light in, ostensibly, the sky. The "shapes" are due to the instability of the camera as well as its shutter/imaging speed, which is slow relative to the motion of the camera.

Such motion is barely detectable in most snapshots and slightly blurs an image, which is why professionals prefer high-speed film and/or tripods. You'll almost always see a professional photographer with a tripod if using a zoom lens. This is because the effect is also relative to zoom. If you try to take a pic of a point of light, the effect creates oblong shapes, usually with horizontal or vertical axes (or both), depending on the type of shake (up/down, side-to-side).

So, its a point of light in the sky. That's all the data that can be gleaned from the photo. Having said that, the possibilities are infinite: it could be space aliens, Vega, or a streetlamp.

You are correct. Who needs blurry photos of mere points of light.

Being serious here. They don't mean much to me. I need a point of reference, at the very least.

Which is why I didn't pay too much attention to the report at the get-go.

But maybe I should have? There's more to such reports than blurry photos. After all, an honest description of the event is more telling than a photo.

Does anyone expect a photo of a lighted object at night to show much detail? Even though a person may be obligated to take such a picture, the photo doesn't necessarily support or refute what the person actually saw.

I'll have to look into the matter further.