U.S. fighter planes intercepted two Russian bombers, including one that buzzed an American aircraft carrier in the western Pacific. :eek:

A Russian Tupolev 95 flew directly over the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz twice, at a low altitude of about 2,000 feet, while another bomber circled about 58 miles out.

This comes amid heightened tensions between us and Russia over our plans for a missile defense system based in Poland and the Czech Republic.
We need this to protect our European allies from Iran.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8UODA4G0&show_article=1

And people mocked me when I said Russia was a potential problem...:rolleyes:

Of course they are a potential problem, they are still powerful, but not as much as they were.

We should just kill everyone, then America will be safe.

No. We should just destroy terrorists and evil, demonic trouble-makers. Everyone else can stay. Even the liberals. :D

Until they become the "trouble makers"

are they just flexing muscle they don't have?

U.S. fighter planes intercepted two Russian bombers, including one that buzzed an American aircraft carrier in the western Pacific. :eek:

A Russian Tupolev 95 flew directly over the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz twice, at a low altitude of about 2,000 feet, while another bomber circled about 58 miles out.

This comes amid heightened tensions between us and Russia over our plans for a missile defense system based in Poland and the Czech Republic.
We need this to protect our European allies from Iran.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8UODA4G0&show_article=1

And people mocked me when I said Russia was a potential problem...:rolleyes:

if it was to defend against iran why is it on the russian border. it is a threat to russia and they have every right to be suspicious of it

The new cold war ?... come on all you medium sized nations, together we outnumber them..tear the giants down!!! . :D

Until they become the "trouble makers"

They're already trouble-makers. We have to let them stay. They have convicned too many other people to take their sides.

Ahh but if you could get away with it you would get rid of them too?

Yes. I would send them to Iran. And France.

You know who else wanted to eliminate or send people away who didnt have the same views?


http://img.slate.com/media/1/123125/2158911/2159086/2159087/070221_CL_HitlerEX.jpg


:eek:

You know who else wanted to eliminate or send people away who didnt have the same views?

I would send him to hell. But he's already there. :eek:

I would send him to hell. But he's already there. :eek:

How can you say that about a fellow Christian:eek::eek:

How can you say that about a fellow Christian:eek::eek:

Hitler was supposedly a Catholic who hijacked his religion into some nutwad theory of superiority. He is like the demonic muslim terrorists. An anti-Christian moron. He vowed secretly to completely eradicate Christianity from Germany. 'You are either a Christian or a German, you cannot be both.' But he was smart enough to know that in a nation as Christian as Germany, the public and the churches must never know his true fellings and beliefs. :(

http://www.liberalslikechrist.org/Catholic/HitlersFaith.html

There was a lot more to Hitler than most people know. He was no Christian. He was a delusional, psychotic mad man. He is in hell now with satan his father.

OMG! Sandy, did you just admit that those terrorists are not real Muslims?

You know, I think she just did. hallejueah, jallehueah,
Maybe you might get a relevation soon.

why do you guys even bother arguing...

Because it's so much better than doing physics homework.

No. We should just destroy terrorists and evil, demonic trouble-makers. Everyone else can stay. Even the liberals. :D

It's counter-productive to "other" people like this. Terrorists aren't demonic. They are just people. Mostly people who have the same mixed-up ideas about demons and other supernatural forces that you have.

By pretending that terrorists are somehow helped by supernatural evil forces, you're making the problem much bigger and scarier than it really is. And you'll never understand the real causes of terrorism as long as you believe the cause is some kind of sky being.

You know who else wanted to eliminate or send people away who didnt have the same views?


http://img.slate.com/media/1/123125/2158911/2159086/2159087/070221_CL_HitlerEX.jpg




What a stud.

so why did the Russian planes do that??

Show of strength, so we dont forget them...

Big deal, they have been buzzing us around the baltic for years now. We intercept them, they go home. They still see themselves as a big power, and big powers project strength around the world. Just ask any american.

They are not happy about the misile shield being setup in eastern europe right at their door, so they will just show that they are not to be ignorred.

Do they say we were in their waters?

No, they just go close to our airspace, we scramble fighters and they turn back.

A Russian Tupolev 95 flew directly over the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz twice, at a low altitude of about 2,000 feet, while another bomber circled about 58 miles out.

The airspace over the open ocean, if not near any land mass, is open to anyone to fly wherever they so choose. I'm certain that if any "hostile" actions were going to be taken it wouldn't be with a bomber but with a missile. Russia is playing its favorite games once again.

This is the Western Pacific, its a big place. Where exactly did this happen? And what is the US navy doing there anyway?

This is the first time Russian Tupolevs have flown over or interacted with a U.S. carrier since 2004.

In that incident, a Russian Tupolev flew over the aircraft carrier USS Kitty Hawk in the Sea of Japan on Jan. 29, 2004. Since then, however, relations between the U.S. and Russia have deteriorated to their worst point since the Cold War, largely due to the United States' plans to put a radar system in the Czech Republic and 10 missile defense interceptors in Poland.

The U.S. has defended the plan as necessary to protect its European allies from possible attacks by Iran. But the Kremlin has condemned the proposal, saying it would threaten Russia's security.

http://www.wpro.who.int/NR/rdonlyres/67785B32-4AD0-4020-B5B2-B5B0CFC054A1/0/Western_Pacific_Region_map.gif

It's counter-productive to "other" people like this. Terrorists aren't demonic. They are just people. Mostly people who have the same mixed-up ideas about demons and other supernatural forces that you have. By pretending that terrorists are somehow helped by supernatural evil forces, you're making the problem much bigger and scarier than it really is. And you'll never understand the real causes of terrorism as long as you believe the cause is some kind of sky being.

"Terrorists aren't demonic"? What would you call it? They are "just people"? :confused: They saw innocent people's heads off, they blow themselves and innocent people up. What kind of "just people" do this?

"Terrorists aren't demonic"? What would you call it? They are "just people"? :confused: They saw innocent people's heads off, they blow themselves and innocent people up. What kind of "just people" do this?

Dont US soldiers blow peoples houses up with helis and planes? Use helicopters to disperse gatheings of people? :bugeye:

Yeah, is teh US media making a much bigger deal of this than what it really is?? Does the military care so much? Did we go to code orange or whatever?

This is the Western Pacific, its a big place. Where exactly did this happen? And what is the US navy doing there anyway?

Living up to any number of treaty obligations with Thailand, South Korea, Japan, Philipines, Singapore, Australia, Micronesia, Fiji, and New Zealand. I know it makes you all pissy inside: But the USA has every right and obligation to be there.

Oh-- and I welcome a strong Russia. This is all for show to make their people feel all warm and cuddly inside. If this helps, then by all means. When Russia starts puttin' the smack-down in their own back yard, the world will be a better place for it.

~String

Living up to any number of treaty obligations with Thailand, South Korea, Japan, Philipines, Singapore, Australia, Micronesia, Fiji, and New Zealand. I know it makes you all pissy inside: But the USA has every right and obligation to be there.

~String

So why are they complaining about other people when they are in other peoples backyards? Next they'll be shooting down civilian airplanes due to paranoia.

I personally would welcome a strong Russia. Not because I hate the US, i dont. But because a strong Russia will mean a possible strong ally for the weaker nations.

I personally would welcome a strong Russia. Not because I hate the US, i dont. But because a strong Russia will mean a possible strong ally for the weaker nations.

also A balance of power could be re established

Oh-- and I welcome a strong Russia. This is all for show to make their people feel all warm and cuddly inside. If this helps, then by all means. When Russia starts puttin' the smack-down in their own back yard, the world will be a better place for it.

I couldn`t agree with you more good sir. S`funny how history keeps repeating itself. :) Of course Russia still has heaps of nukes tucked away for a rainy day. :eek:

I am sure the tu-95 was travelling in neutral territory and so this rage* over it flying over US boat is unsubstantiated

SAM it happened over Northern Mariana Islands...this is the same incident that Japan has reported, again unsubstantiated because the planes flew over neutral territories. In fact the reason Japan has claimed the planes 3 minute flyby over their land is because it is controlled by USA military presence

Protect from Iran? No, we need a missile defense system in the Middle East to protect from American aggression. Iran is crazy, sure, but they won't attack Europeans for no reason.

I am sure the tu-95 was travelling in neutral territory and so this rage* over it flying over US boat is unsubstantiated
Generally speaking, flying anywhere approaching standoff weapon range of a carrier group is a pretty good way to ruffle feathers and get bounced by its component airwing. That said, I think this incident has been inflated beyond its due importance.

"Terrorists aren't demonic"? What would you call it? They are "just people"? :confused: They saw innocent people's heads off, they blow themselves and innocent people up. What kind of "just people" do this?

In the good old days, we would have called such people murderers. But the idea of a 'murderer' has lots its meaning. Referring to someone as a 'terrorist' tends to instill fear in people.

For example, would you call a woman who puts her baby in the microwave as being a terrorist? Or is she a murderer?

Now in regards to the 'demonic' aspect of the "terrorist". As James pointed out quite correctly, you are attributing them to being somehow aligned with Satan, and thus, demonic. Which means those attempting to fight the "terrorist", as such, the 'demons', become God's fighters. The fight between good and evil. It's enough to get anyone's blood pumping. That the "terrorists" are mere mortals fighting for their own cause in a war, is beside the point. There are many academics who have studied 'terrorism', and more to the point, 'terrorists', who have acknowledged that they tend to be people who feel so desperate in the situation they find themselves, that they do turn to committing acts of 'terrorism'. For example, imagine a man who finds himself under constant threat of bombing from an occupying nation, who sees his family members being killed by these occupiers, his home is without power or running water (the occupiers cut that off to his village), his plot of land has been trashed by constant bombings so he is unable to feed his family. Now, lets imagine this man gets to the point where he cannot take it anymore, lacking in finances to buy a gun, his desperation leads him to using his own body as a weapon. Would you view him as being "demonic"? Or just a sad, desperate man who feels he has no other option?

Some 'terrorists' are easy prey to others who feed on their misery and their plight into turning them into some sort of freedom fighters. Desperate people will turn to whoever offers them a solution, and some people have their own political motivations to want to prey on desperate people. That is where the line becomes blurred. I mean honestly, think about it Sandy. How desperate would you have to be to strap a bomb to your body and blow yourself and others up? What leads people to getting that desperate? Now, after considering that.. What can be done to alleviate the situation so that people do not become so desperate to the point where strapping a bomb to their body is seen as an option? Once you can answer those questions, you will start to see the light at the end of the proverbial tunnel.

demonic trouble-makers. :D

USA is the one that falls under that category

U.S. fighter planes intercepted two Russian bombers, including one that buzzed an American aircraft carrier in the western Pacific. :eek:

A Russian Tupolev 95 flew directly over the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz twice, at a low altitude of about 2,000 feet, while another bomber circled about 58 miles out.

This comes amid heightened tensions between us and Russia over our plans for a missile defense system based in Poland and the Czech Republic.
We need this to protect our European allies from Iran.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8UODA4G0&show_article=1

And people mocked me when I said Russia was a potential problem...
Russian spirits may have been uplifted by the "in-your-American-eye" fly-over, but they were equally unlifted by our "So, what?" reaction.

Chess supposedly is the Russian pasttime; a passing Pawn ignored by a Queen and her accompanying Rooks, Bishops and Knights is still just a pawn passing.

We should just kill everyone, then America will be safe.

Here here! Start with the witches.

Here here! Start with the witches.

Hey no one likes a burning witch on a side note nice thing with the full marine core motto