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THE RIOT SPARKED BY RUMOUR
1 dead, 35 hurt after pirate radio 'gang rape' claim
By Steve Mccomish
A GANG rape rumour left an inner city torn apart in a bloody riot in which at least one person was killed.
Police admitted last night that the violence, in which four others were stabbed and a policeman shot in the leg with a ball-bearing gun, could have been sparked by just a pirate radio station's claim.
People were dragged from cars and beaten, shops were looted and two pubs attacked.
A 23-year-old black man was stabbed to death. Thirty five people were taken to hospital.
Violence erupted in Lozells, Birmingham, on Saturday night following protests after an Asian shop owner was said to be behind the gang rape of a black schoolgirl. He claims total innocence.
Police attended a community meeting but had to intervene when gatecrashers started forcing their way in. Then a howling mob took to the streets led by a hardcore of 30 to 50 youths.
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Officers made 10 arrests and recorded 80 offences in just 75 minutes - including 12 incidences of shots and reports of petrol bombs thrown.
The riot followed days of increasing tensions between black and Asian youths. Throughout the week, two pirate radio stations popular with the black community repeated claims that a 14-year-old black girl had been subjected to a horrific sex attack in an Asian shop.
One pirate DJ called for the black community to take to the streets in a peaceful protest. He claimed the girl was held captive and repeatedly raped by up to 19 Asian men after she was caught allegedly stealing from the shop.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/west_midlands/4370288.stm
Mosque 'attacked'


On Sunday night further disturbances took place in the Lozells area, where a heavy police presence was in place.

Gangs of youths had gathered in response to an alleged attack on a nearby mosque.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=366352&in_page_id=1770&ito=1490

Local businessman Asif Khan runs a takeaway close to the scene, which was attacked on Saturday by a gang wielding baseball bats and machetes.

The 27-year-old said: "I thought I was going to get killed. I ran to the back with the three other guys I was working with.

"They threw bricks and all sorts." Asked about the fatality near his premises, Mr Khan added: "It's really frightening.


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First the blacks attack the muslim businesses and mosques, then the muslim gangs come out later to retaliate.

Do white communities need this shit, from our ethnic communities who seem to think a rape is something that is solved, by smashing up UK cities and attacking our police.

If a white girl is raped we let the police handle it, but blacks and muslims only obey the law of the jungle, they start beating there jungle drums, while whites hide in there homes, from these loonies.


I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF WHITE COMMUNITIES ABROAD GOING ON A RAMPAGE BECAUSE ONE OF THERE FAMILY MEMBERS IS RAPED OR ATTACKED, WE LET THE POLICE HANDLE THESE MATTERS.

ETHNIC COMMUNITIES IN THE UK BEHAVE LIKE TRIBES, THEY REFUSE TO SUBMIT TO UK LAW, THEY TRY TO CLOSE OUR THEATRES DOWN BECAUSE THERE COMMUNITY IS SHOWN IN A DIM LIGHT OR IN A COMMICAL MANNER.

IF THEY CHOOSE TO LIVE IN A DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY THEY MUST SUBMIT TO THE LAW, OF THAT COUNTRY IF THEY CAN NOT IT IS TIME THEY LEFT TO BACK TO THERE HOMELAND TRIBES.

If a black person is attacked by police in america, it can lead to riots on the street there.

What is it with ethnic communities that they think they are above the law?

dont get hysterical dude. you dont have to shout with caps. we can read you we can read you.
now listen to me vincent very very closely. you, nor jb, nor somegoy, nor bmax and any others who froth at the mouth when they hear of 'black violence' (have noticed you've added Asian communities to your righteous indignation now) are going to be able to 'get rid' of people who aren't white........i sewnse you'll are on some crusade. tat ypou think spreading your prejudice will some how crate a neo nazi environemnt and a 'Final Solution'...watever that may be? correct me if i am wrong.

first tho..let me ask you seriouly. you have passionately setdown you feel threatened by black peopl and ethnic communities--as a white person. is tis correct?

if so. ten what are your dreams about what you'd like to happen. what is your idea for what wshould happen to make you 'happy'?

dont get hysterical dude. you dont have to shout with caps. we can read you we can read you.
now listen to me vincent very very closely. you, nor jb, nor somegoy, nor bmax and any others who froth at the mouth when they hear of 'black violence' (have noticed you've added Asian communities to your righteous indignation now) are going to be able to 'get rid' of people who aren't white........i sewnse you'll are on some crusade. tat ypou think spreading your prejudice will some how crate a neo nazi environemnt and a 'Final Solution'...watever that may be? correct me if i am wrong.

first tho..let me ask you seriouly. you have passionately setdown you feel threatened by black peopl and ethnic communities--as a white person. is tis correct?

if so. ten what are your dreams about what you'd like to happen. what is your idea for what wshould happen to make you 'happy'?


I hate neo nazis & the klu klux klan, i also hate ethnic communities that do not respect the law of democratic countries, these people are not above the law, if a white man is beaten in the street by a black cop, there is not riots in the street the next day, if a white girl is raped we dont form gangs and attack businesses of the same colour as the accused, we submit to the law of the land.

ETHNIC COMMUNITIES ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW!!!!!!!!

maybe maybe not, but the police ar aren't they??....are you not aware that its been shown that the police force is institutionally racist??.......that a documentary fairly recently shown, wher a 'bobby' working for TV, maganged to secretly film what went on inside te plice force. that we saw cops talking like neo nazis......? and nuthin has changed, even tho there was a lot of hot air spouted by the cops-at-the-top for-the-media.

and, did you know that many blck men have died in police custody. really murdered, but thy wont adsmit it. andthat when a film was gonna be shown about it here i manchester a coupla yars ago the top cops furiously protested and wantd it censored it eventally got ONE showing at this arthouse cinema, the Cornerhouse....why wasn't it shown on fukin TV??!

so ...theres some examples vincent why it might be that a white person MAy--tho i know a lot ofpoor people dont tink this way!--may be treated for failry by the police force than black and ethnic communities. which doesn't justify what happened in Birmingham, but broadens the context.......

maybe maybe not, but the police ar aren't they??....are you not aware that its been shown that the police force is institutionally racist??.......that a documentary fairly recently shown, wher a 'bobby' working for TV, maganged to secretly film what went on inside te plice force. that we saw cops talking like neo nazis......? and nuthin has changed, even tho there was a lot of hot air spouted by the cops-at-the-top for-the-media.

and, did you know that many blck men have died in police custody. really murdered, but thy wont adsmit it. andthat when a film was gonna be shown about it here i manchester a coupla yars ago the top cops furiously protested and wantd it censored it eventally got ONE showing at this arthouse cinema, the Cornerhouse....why wasn't it shown on fukin TV??!

so ...theres some examples vincent why it might be that a white person MAy--tho i know a lot ofpoor people dont tink this way!--may be treated for failry by the police force than black and ethnic communities. which doesn't justify what happened in Birmingham, but broadens the context.......


You say the Police are institutionally racist. Are these riots, black vs asians proof that society/mankind are innate/institutionally racist?

I agreed this is all very primitive behaviour but I think the most primitive aspect of it, is that it was started by rumours. This is a science forum we all respect proof and evidence therefore you would think that this behaviour would be looked down on by fellow forum members. However, I bet many here will still reason that this behaviour is reasonable in a civilised society.

You say the Police are institutionally racist.

me::Yes, I do.

Are these riots, black vs asians proof that society/mankind are innate/institutionally racist?
NO. which is why i am encouraging you to look at the broader context. INSTITUTIONAL racism. ie that the fact the very society at the top is racist has a drastic effect for ALL community.
So ...instead of scapegoting other communities, it is much more intelliegnt to look more closely at the SYSTEM itself!

It has been known that various sytems through our history use the tactic of divide and control for the purpose of securing and maintaining their power. Having factions of the Community fighting each other is exctly that in action.

Duendy I am aware of the divide and rule concept but I really cannot see it in action here. It’s normally used by conquering army’s as a way of the minority (invading army) ruling the masses (majority).

Divided community’s are common the world over even in the absents of a ruling power.

Minority community’s don't hold much power and never will in a democracy because of its very nature. So why is there a need to create in-fighting among people with no power and no prospects of having power?

In fact riots of this nature look bad on the ruling Government and I am sure that this is a unified belief of all races.

maybe maybe not, but the police ar aren't they??....are you not aware that its been shown that the police force is institutionally racist??.......that a documentary fairly recently shown, wher a 'bobby' working for TV, maganged to secretly film what went on inside te plice force. that we saw cops talking like neo nazis......? and nuthin has changed, even tho there was a lot of hot air spouted by the cops-at-the-top for-the-media.

and, did you know that many blck men have died in police custody. really murdered, but thy wont adsmit it. andthat when a film was gonna be shown about it here i manchester a coupla yars ago the top cops furiously protested and wantd it censored it eventally got ONE showing at this arthouse cinema, the Cornerhouse....why wasn't it shown on fukin TV??!

so ...theres some examples vincent why it might be that a white person MAy--tho i know a lot ofpoor people dont tink this way!--may be treated for failry by the police force than black and ethnic communities. which doesn't justify what happened in Birmingham, but broadens the context.......

Every man & woman on this planet has had a racist thought in there life, unless they are god. To admit otherwise is like saying you are not human.

The police like all of us without exceptions, are capable of racist thoughts & actions, & the police like all of us are subject to the laws of the country.

We dont need gangs of ethnic vigilantees in the uk, in the uk white people respect the law, and wait for justice to be done, the UK is not like America we dont let people like OJ simpson go free because of the colour of his skin.
The uk has the one of the most respected legal systems in the world, WHICH IS WHY WE DONT NEED ETHNIC VIGILANTEES.

I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF WHITE COMMUNITIES ABROAD GOING ON A RAMPAGE BECAUSE ONE OF THERE FAMILY MEMBERS IS RAPED OR ATTACKED, WE LET THE POLICE HANDLE THESE MATTERS.

No. Your fellow countrymen from the white communities are more used to going on rampages when they lose a football match.

in the uk white people respect the law, and wait for justice to be done,

since when?

I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF WHITE COMMUNITIES ABROAD GOING ON A RAMPAGE BECAUSE ONE OF THERE FAMILY MEMBERS IS RAPED OR ATTACKED, WE LET THE POLICE HANDLE THESE MATTERS.
Ever heard of Emmett Till?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/till/

OK – Lets get to the root of the matter here !!!!!

Trevor Phillips the chair of the Commission for Racial Equality agrees that multiculturalism is not working in the UK?

Trevor Phillips argues that multiculturalism is divisive and leads to friction in society - something we have all known for years. Such has been the flood of immigrants into the UK since WW2 that assimilation has been out of the question and immigrants have formed their own societies within our society. It is natural for people to want to live with people who are like themselves and who share their way of life - that’s why we have ghettos all over the UK, especially in the cities

Phillips and the rest of the politicians are getting worried about the Frankenstein they have created, and in something of a panic they've suddenly started bleating about integration. What short memories they have. Integration was the line politicians spun us when the first wave of immigrants landed on our shores, but when they didn't integrate we were told that they shouldn't be expected to do so, and that it infringed their rights, and that multiculturalism was the way to go.

Perhaps we could begin by having all these politicians live outside their own culture in a ghetto of someone else’s culture - if they want integration - let them lead by example.

In over 10 post-war elections the people of the UK were never given the chance of a referendum to vote on whether we wanted multiculturalism or not, and this means that the whole creation of the multicultural state has no democratic, legal or moral force. Then along came the political correctness brigades who then started to change things in favour of the so called minority, thereby changing the status quo away from the natural born ethnic British person.

The Brits have all the experience of mixing with people of different cultures, English, Scottish, Irish, and the Welsh, but that took quite a few hundred years to forge. We were in balance, but now it has swung massively away from the Brit in favour of the unwanted, economic refugee and others who flood in here, illegally or otherwise, to be welcomed with open arms and chequebooks.

It is not racist to be patriotic about ones country, it is not racist to want to see your country grow strong without economic collapse, and it is not racist to want to keep your country's original culture and design. But he British people have been forced to bear the burden of unrestricted mass immigration, the farce of the asylum process, the endless influx of illegal immigrants into the country, the criminality and terrorism caused by immigrants, the undercutting or our wages, the abuse of our electoral system through voter fraud, the destruction of our rights and freedoms such as the right to free speech and the endless costs of supporting immigrants within our country and it has cost us - the taxpayers - billions upon billions of pounds.

Now we get arseholes who liken ethnic gang warfare to a soccer aftermatch brawl!!!!!

No wonder the white ethnic Brit is pissed off with the whole affair.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16286184%26method=full%26siteid=94762% 26headline=the%2driot%2dsparked%2dby%2drumour-name_page.html

Do white communities need this shit, from our ethnic communities who seem to think a rape is something that is solved, by smashing up UK cities and attacking our police.

If a white girl is raped we let the police handle it, but blacks and muslims only obey the law of the jungle, they start beating there jungle drums, while whites hide in there homes, from these loonies.


I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF WHITE COMMUNITIES ABROAD GOING ON A RAMPAGE BECAUSE ONE OF THERE FAMILY MEMBERS IS RAPED OR ATTACKED, WE LET THE POLICE HANDLE THESE MATTERS.

ETHNIC COMMUNITIES IN THE UK BEHAVE LIKE TRIBES, THEY REFUSE TO SUBMIT TO UK LAW, THEY TRY TO CLOSE OUR THEATRES DOWN BECAUSE THERE COMMUNITY IS SHOWN IN A DIM LIGHT OR IN A COMMICAL MANNER.

IF THEY CHOOSE TO LIVE IN A DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY THEY MUST SUBMIT TO THE LAW, OF THAT COUNTRY IF THEY CAN NOT IT IS TIME THEY LEFT TO BACK TO THERE HOMELAND TRIBES.

If a black person is attacked by police in america, it can lead to riots on the street there.

What is it with ethnic communities that they think they are above the law?

Emiitt Till was murdered in a most terrible way but WHITE people because one of them thought he looked at a white woman.

Yes, this stituation you speak of is crazy. The people who broadcast these statements should be charged with murder.

Ethnic communities do not feel themselves against the law but when the laws boot is on your neck for so long, sooner or later your gonna fight back. Thats something white people don't understand. Blacks are pretty much subject to a harsher law enforcement that whites. The situation in New Orleans with the 66 year old black school teacher being beaten by the Cops and then the cops saying the man was drunk and resiting arrest was not an isolated incident. It happens every day in our commuities Vincent. The only difference is that someone had a video camera and the cop made the mistake of attacking a member of the media. Had no one recorded this incident, that teacher would still be locked up facing charges he didn't commit.

Just another siutation of white people seeing the end result of a situation and not the causes.

OK – Lets get to the root of the matter here !!!!!

Trevor Phillips the chair of the Commission for Racial Equality agrees that multiculturalism is not working in the UK?

Trevor Phillips argues that multiculturalism is divisive and leads to friction in society - something we have all known for years. Such has been the flood of immigrants into the UK since WW2 that assimilation has been out of the question and immigrants have formed their own societies within our society. It is natural for people to want to live with people who are like themselves and who share their way of life - that’s why we have ghettos all over the UK, especially in the cities

Phillips and the rest of the politicians are getting worried about the Frankenstein they have created, and in something of a panic they've suddenly started bleating about integration. What short memories they have. Integration was the line politicians spun us when the first wave of immigrants landed on our shores, but when they didn't integrate we were told that they shouldn't be expected to do so, and that it infringed their rights, and that multiculturalism was the way to go.

Perhaps we could begin by having all these politicians live outside their own culture in a ghetto of someone else’s culture - if they want integration - let them lead by example.

In over 10 post-war elections the people of the UK were never given the chance of a referendum to vote on whether we wanted multiculturalism or not, and this means that the whole creation of the multicultural state has no democratic, legal or moral force. Then along came the political correctness brigades who then started to change things in favour of the so called minority, thereby changing the status quo away from the natural born ethnic British person.

The Brits have all the experience of mixing with people of different cultures, English, Scottish, Irish, and the Welsh, but that took quite a few hundred years to forge. We were in balance, but now it has swung massively away from the Brit in favour of the unwanted, economic refugee and others who flood in here, illegally or otherwise, to be welcomed with open arms and chequebooks.

It is not racist to be patriotic about ones country, it is not racist to want to see your country grow strong without economic collapse, and it is not racist to want to keep your country's original culture and design. But he British people have been forced to bear the burden of unrestricted mass immigration, the farce of the asylum process, the endless influx of illegal immigrants into the country, the criminality and terrorism caused by immigrants, the undercutting or our wages, the abuse of our electoral system through voter fraud, the destruction of our rights and freedoms such as the right to free speech and the endless costs of supporting immigrants within our country and it has cost us - the taxpayers - billions upon billions of pounds.

Now we get arseholes who liken ethnic gang warfare to a soccer aftermatch brawl!!!!!

No wonder the white ethnic Brit is pissed off with the whole affair.

Perhaps you should move into an Enthic area of your beloved Britian for a year or 3. See how and why the other half acts the way it does. Stop seeing the end result of you white peoples racism and see reasons why people act the way they do.

Emiitt Till was murdered in a most terrible way but WHITE people because one of them thought he looked at a white woman.

Yes, this stituation you speak of is crazy. The people who broadcast these statements should be charged with murder.

Ethnic communities do not feel themselves against the law but when the laws boot is on your neck for so long, sooner or later your gonna fight back. Thats something white people don't understand. Blacks are pretty much subject to a harsher law enforcement that whites. The situation in New Orleans with the 66 year old black school teacher being beaten by the Cops and then the cops saying the man was drunk and resiting arrest was not an isolated incident. It happens every day in our commuities Vincent. The only difference is that someone had a video camera and the cop made the mistake of attacking a member of the media. Had no one recorded this incident, that teacher would still be locked up facing charges he didn't commit.

Just another siutation of white people seeing the end result of a situation and not the causes.

I agree the incident about 66 year old black school teacher was horrible, but the problems in USA cannot be compared to those of the UK. The sooner Americans and the rest of the world realise this - the better.

Perhaps you should move into an Enthic area of your beloved Britian for a year or 3. See how and why the other half acts the way it does. Stop seeing the end result of you white peoples racism and see reasons why people act the way they do.

Can you expand on your garbled comments

Another point regarding rules and laws. The laws (at least the older ones) were made by white people (I am of course talking about western societies here) and until rather recently some laws were even designed to discriminate against certain groups (more often than not, against blacks). As such in certain (ethnic) subcultures laws are not held in the same regard since they are perceived as "white" laws in which they have nothing to say.

Another point regarding rules and laws. The laws (at least the older ones) were made by white people (I am of course talking about western societies here) and until rather recently some laws were even designed to discriminate against certain groups (more often than not, against blacks). As such in certain (ethnic) subcultures laws are not held in the same regard since they are perceived as "white" laws in which they have nothing to say.

give examples

Yes there are a lot of no go areas for police in the UK, where they dare not make arrests in ethnic ghettoes because it might start a riot, is this the society we all want to live in, to be politically correct and bow to the ethnic minorities because we dont want to upset them.
Then they become there own police, ethnic vigilantees smashing up our theatres because we dare to show a play that tells the truth about them, thus taking our freedom of speech away.

In holland there freedom of speech has been taken away too, there a politican and van goghs relation, are murdered because they dare to exercise there right of free speach.

All our freedoms are being eroded away by these ethnic minorities, its a pantomine these days to open up a bank account, or to board a plane, or to leave your luggage locked up at railway stations, they search them with metal detectors & then hand search them, old age pensioners treated like common criminals, while all the time we tell them we are white british people, but being politically correct they can not target ethnic groups all races have to be searched.

Democracy has had its day, and the day of being politically correct, and creating a society of paronia and chaos is apon us.

Dkb218 what about PC Blakelock hacked to death for being a Police Office protecting fire fighters from attack by a group of Blacks.

More white people are killed by black people in the UK than the other way around. But the Stats on this are not published by the Government for fear of a backlash.

Anyway the subject is not about the very rare act of Murder, it’s about the rioting of hundreds of black youths over a rumour.

Why do people in these types of posts feel the need to bring up a 50 year old Murder, it has nothing to do with the riot in the UK at the weekend. Society has moved on a great deal since that time.

In fact if you would like to draw evidence from the riot you could conclude that if the ethnic make-up of America was Black and Asian then an Asian could have killed Emiitt Till. Asian’s don't mix with Black’s, Black’s don't Mix with White’s, African’s don't mix with Jamaican’s, Indians and Pakistan's etc etc. Geography and migration are the cause of racism because people don't mix well. It’s sad but its true.

Multiculturalism works in NYC. Don't be such a quitter.

Emiitt Till was murdered in a most terrible way but WHITE people because one of them thought he looked at a white woman.

Yes, this stituation you speak of is crazy. The people who broadcast these statements should be charged with murder.

Ethnic communities do not feel themselves against the law but when the laws boot is on your neck for so long, sooner or later your gonna fight back. Thats something white people don't understand. Blacks are pretty much subject to a harsher law enforcement that whites. The situation in New Orleans with the 66 year old black school teacher being beaten by the Cops and then the cops saying the man was drunk and resiting arrest was not an isolated incident. It happens every day in our commuities Vincent. The only difference is that someone had a video camera and the cop made the mistake of attacking a member of the media. Had no one recorded this incident, that teacher would still be locked up facing charges he didn't commit.

Just another siutation of white people seeing the end result of a situation and not the causes.
The situation in the uk is totally different, we did not go through the racial crap america has went through, we never had black slaves working in the Uk, we did not have segregated buses, and schools, and i have never witnessed our police beating a black man on tv, but i have seen plenty of whites getting a good beating for nothing.

The problem in America is the legal system does not work, your police beat people up, and the policemans doughnut ration is cut until he behaves himself.

The legal system in the uk does work, thats why i get angry when ethnic vigilantees smash up UK cities, because they are a victim of crime.

The problem is in there own countries or parents countries, the law is a joke so when a crime is committed they take the law into there own hands, however this is not the case in the UK, so there excuses for rioting are pathetic, in my view as was shown in this riot, it was just cover to go on a looting spree.

Multiculturalism works in NYC. Don't be such a quitter.

How do you know it works? Here in the UK we have been told for years that Multiculturalism is great its only since the London Bombings that the truth that it doesn't work has been acknowledged.

Also and more importantly if it really does work, how have they achieved this?

The situation in the uk is totally different, we did not go through the racial crap america has went through, we never had black slaves working in the Uk, we did not have segregated buses, and schools, and i have never witnessed our police beating a black man on tv, but i have seen plenty of whites getting a good beating for nothing.

The problem in America is the legal system does not work, your police beat people up, and the policemans doughnut ration is cut until he behaves himself. [LOL]

The legal system in the uk does work, thats why i get angry when ethnic vigilantees smash up UK cities, because they are a victim of crime.

The problem is in there own countries or parents countries, the law is a joke so when a crime is committed they take the law into there own hands, however this is not the case in the UK, so there excuses for rioting are pathetic, in my view as was shown in this riot, it was just cover to go on a looting spree.

Granted - I've never been to the UK so I can only speak on what I witness in the good Ol' USofA.

How do you know it works? Here in the UK we have been told for years that Multiculturalism is great its only since the London Bombings that the truth that it doesn't work has been acknowledged.

Also and more importantly if it really does work, how have they achieved this?
Because people of many nationalities get along together. It only takes time to assimilate. You can assilimate without rejecting your home culture.

Dkb218 what about PC Blakelock hacked to death for being a Police Office protecting fire fighters from attack by a group of Blacks.
[I'm ignorant on this story - but it's kinda phucked up that this should happpen to anyone.]

More white people are killed by black people in the UK than the other way around. But the Stats on this are not published by the Government for fear of a backlash.

Anyway the subject is not about the very rare act of Murder, it’s about the rioting of hundreds of black youths over a rumour.

Why do people in these types of posts feel the need to bring up a 50 year old Murder, it has nothing to do with the riot in the UK at the weekend. Society has moved on a great deal since that time. [Yes, but in which direction?]

In fact if you would like to draw evidence from the riot you could conclude that if the ethnic make-up of America was Black and Asian then an Asian could have killed Emiitt Till. Asian’s don't mix with Black’s, Black’s don't Mix with White’s, African’s don't mix with Jamaican’s, Indians and Pakistan's etc etc. Geography and migration are the cause of racism because people don't mix well. It’s sad but its true.

Again, I've never been to the UK so I've no idea how your laws work. However, I feel there is something deeper at work here. In all countries there seems to be this racial divide. We, meaning the working/lower class seem to be at odds with each other over race. Why? To say the the races can't get along is a coup out.

We keep fighting each other over what amounts to petty differences. Of course we are all different but why does that have to be a problem? We all want the basic things in life. Security, shelter, food. If you believe in a Creator, He didn't make us to be at each others necks just because we have different skin colors/cultures.

The question is WHY does it seem we can't get along with each other? Why and in whose interest is it that we be against each other? Whose purpose does it serve that we focus on the hate of each other while being distracted from "other" more important things? Is it possible that this rasict thing is somethng that's just "made up" to keep us looking the other way? :eek:

We never seem to ask WHY is this happening. Just seeing the end result of such evil is not going to solve this problem. What starts it?

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First the blacks attack the muslim businesses and mosques, then the muslim gangs come out later to retaliate.

If a white girl is raped we let the police handle it, but blacks and muslims only obey the law of the jungle, they start beating there jungle drums, while whites hide in there homes, from these loonies.the UK must be more civilized, here in the US, our rich whites cower behind moats, security cameras & private security; our middle-class whites behing gated communities & public police; our poor whites with .357 magmums, 30/6 & AK-47's

I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF WHITE COMMUNITIES ABROAD GOING ON A RAMPAGE BECAUSE ONE OF THERE FAMILY MEMBERS IS RAPED OR ATTACKED, WE LET THE POLICE HANDLE THESE MATTERS. after you read the items below, consider yourself informed
http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1979/2/79.02.04.x.html
Immediately following the end of Reconstruction, the Federal Government of the United States restored white supremacist control to the South and adopted a “laissez-faire” policy in regard to the Negro. The Negro was betrayed by his country. This policy resulted in Negro disfranchisement, social, educational and employment discrimination, and peonage. Deprived of their civil and human rights, Blacks were reduced to a status of quasislavery or “second-class” citizenship. A tense atmosphere of racial hatred, ignorance and fear bred lawless mass violence, murder and lynching.

RACE RIOTS
In the decade immediately preceding World War I, a pattern of racial violence began to emerge in which white mob assaults were directed against entire Black communities. These race riots were the product of white society’s desire to maintain its superiority over Blacks, vent its frustrations in times of distress, and attack those least able to defend themselves. In these race riots, white mobs invaded Black neighborhoods, beat and killed large numbers of Blacks and destroyed Black property. In most instances, Blacks fought back and there were many casualties on both sides, though most of the dead were Black.

http://www.ladyday.net/stuf/vfsept98.html
STRANGE FRUIT
by DAVID MARGOLICK
Southern trees bear a strange fruit,
Blood on the leaves and blood at the root,
Black body swinging in the Southern breeze,
Strange fruit hanging from the poplar trees.

Pastoral scene of the gallant South,
The bulging eyes and the twisted mouth,
Scent of magnolia sweet and fresh,
And the sudden smell of burning flesh!

Here is a fruit for the crows to pluck,
For the rain to gather, for the wind to suck,
For the sun to rot, for a tree to drop,
Here is a strange and bitter crop.

As Billie Holiday later told the story, a single gesture by a patron at New York's Café Society, in Greenwich Village, changed the history of American music in early 1939, the night when she first sang "Strange Fruit."


What is it with ethnic communities that they think they are above the law?this seems like a problem with both the elites & the have-nots, if history is a judge, no?

Wild Blue - It has been said time and time again - the problems in the UK are different to those of the USA. First of the historical reasons which you plainly state above and secondly the UK has a population 9 times denser than the USA. I explain the problems here in the UK very clearly in a previous post above.

It is not racist to be patriotic about ones country, it is not racist to want to see your country grow strong without economic collapse, and it is not racist to want to keep your country's original culture and design. But he British people have been forced to bear the burden of unrestricted mass immigration, the farce of the asylum process, the endless influx of illegal immigrants into the country, the criminality and terrorism caused by immigrants, the undercutting or our wages, the abuse of our electoral system through voter fraud, the destruction of our rights and freedoms such as the right to free speech and the endless costs of supporting immigrants within our country and it has cost us - the taxpayers - billions upon billions of pounds.
Now we get arseholes who liken ethnic gang warfare to a soccer aftermatch brawl!!!!!
No wonder the white ethnic Brit is pissed off with the whole affair.
I apologize for calling you an idiot in another thread. Well said.

Wild Blue - It has been said time and time again - the problems in the UK are different to those of the USA. First of the historical reasons which you plainly state above and secondly the UK has a population 9 times denser than the USA. I explain the problems here in the UK very clearly in a previous post above.

Well someone mentioned how it works in New York City, and the population there and in New Jersey is pretty damned dense, so what gives? Let's take the surrounding states of Maryland (5.3M), New York (19M), Massachusetts (6.4M), New Jersey (8.5M), Connecticutt (3.5M), Pennsylvania (12.3M), Delaware (.7M), and Rhode Island (1M) and you get a population of around 57 million compared to the 60 million or so in the UK. The square mileage between the two is pretty much the same. It must be the guns that do it. :)

"An armed society is a polite society."

- N

i remember a few months ago when an illegal mexican borderjumper raped a white pre-teen girl in southern U.S., there were violent backlashes against local Mexicans perpetrated by local Americans who were most likely white

it isnt just a black & Muslim thing. any group that lashes back like that has guts, and i applaud them. this fucking Sharia honour-killing bizness, if i find anybody in my neighbourhood doing this to any non-Muslim girl (or even Muslim), i'll get my hockey stick and go smash some skulls. do you want to leave it to the super-culturaly-sensitive Toronto Police Department? (who happen to be on strike at the moment)

Sharia is a barbaric practice, as i see it, and any attempt to use it to override the Law of the Land is out of place. if Muslim immigrants wanna continue living their mud-hut style living like they did in Pakistan, deport them and let them.

Yes there are a lot of no go areas for police in the UK, where they dare not make arrests in ethnic ghettoes because it might start a riot.

Stop lying. Cops don't enforce the laws because they don't care about Black Neighborhoods. The Police should hire more Black officers.. PROBLEM SOLVED. Blacks can't scream RACISM if the arresting officers are Black.


Is this the society we all want to live in, to be politically correct and bow to the ethnic minorities because we dont want to upset them.
Then they become there own police, ethnic vigilantees smashing up our theatres because we dare to show a play that tells the truth about them, thus taking our freedom of speech away.

What about your White Goverment? Who bypassed all international laws and invaded a sovereign country. Or what about the 2 British Soldiers who were arrested by the Iraqi police for dresssing up like muslims and commiting terrorist acts? And instead of the Brits following the law, they bulldoze the police station and take their men out. Talk about vigilante Justice PLEASE.

In holland there freedom of speech has been taken away too, there a politican and van goghs relation, are murdered because they dare to exercise there right of free speach

Ever heard of Martin Luther King? John Lennon? Plenty of great speakers were killed for excercising free speech, so your point is?

All our freedoms are being eroded away by these ethnic minorities, its a pantomine these days to open up a bank account, or to board a plane, or to leave your luggage locked up at railway stations, they search them with metal detectors & then hand search them, old age pensioners treated like common criminals, while all the time we tell them we are white british people, but being politically correct they can not target ethnic groups all races have to be searched.

Oh I forgot, whites never set off Bombs in the UK. The IRA were all muslims.




Democracy has had its day, and the day of being politically correct, and creating a society of paronia and chaos is apon us.


You're just a white supremicist. Who defines Blacks by their worst examples. And at the same time, define whites by their best examples. You're country is a joke anyway. With your drug induced prince harry. Your two timing prince charles. The heartless and manical Queen Elizabeth. Who had Diana killed because she was going to Marry a Muslim. And didn't want the future king of England to have a Muslim Stepfather, or Muslim Brothers.

All races are fucked up. That's why you need to realize. Whites have killed more people then any other race. Not because their more evil, it's because they had better technology to kill people with. And they used it, indiscrimantely. And I like how the Brits use the term "Colonization" Colonization is just a bullshit word. In Reality, Colonization means Rape, Murder and Steal. And that's what your country did for centuries. And you have the audacity to point the finger at other races? Nigga Please.

Stop lying. Cops don't enforce the laws because they don't care about Black Neighborhoods. The Police should hire more Black officers.. PROBLEM SOLVED. Blacks can't scream RACISM if the arresting officers are Black.




What about your White Goverment? Who bypassed all international laws and invaded a sovereign country. Or what about the 2 British Soldiers who were arrested by the Iraqi police for dresssing up like muslims and commiting terrorist acts? And instead of the Brits following the law, they bulldoze the police station and take their men out. Talk about vigilante Justice PLEASE.



Ever heard of Martin Luther King? John Lennon? Plenty of great speakers were killed for excercising free speech, so your point is?



Oh I forgot, whites never set off Bombs in the UK. The IRA were all muslims.







You're just a white supremicist. Who defines Blacks by their worst examples. And at the same time, define whites by their best examples. You're country is a joke anyway. With your drug induced prince harry. Your two timing prince charles. The heartless and manical Queen Elizabeth. Who had Diana killed because she was going to Marry a Muslim. And didn't want the future king of England to have a Muslim Stepfather, or Muslim Brothers.

All races are fucked up. That's why you need to realize. Whites have killed more people then any other race. Not because their more evil, it's because they had better technology to kill people with. And they used it, indiscrimantely. And I like how the Brits use the term "Colonization" Colonization is just a bullshit word. In Reality, Colonization means Rape, Murder and Steal. And that's what your country did for centuries. And you have the audacity to point the finger at other races? Nigga Please.

This is the first and last time I will lower myself to reply to any of your posts -I've read all your previous posts and you're as racist as hell, you hate whites and you've got a bad attitude (probably from listening to all that rap crap).

Well someone mentioned how it works in New York City, and the population there and in New Jersey is pretty damned dense, so what gives? Let's take the surrounding states of Maryland (5.3M), New York (19M), Massachusetts (6.4M), New Jersey (8.5M), Connecticutt (3.5M), Pennsylvania (12.3M), Delaware (.7M), and Rhode Island (1M) and you get a population of around 57 million compared to the 60 million or so in the UK. The square mileage between the two is pretty much the same. It must be the guns that do it. :)

"An armed society is a polite society."

- N

Interesting facts Neildo

But - England alone has a population of 50 million and has a land area of 50,000 sq miles, easy math for anyone - 100 people for every square mile!

I like the "An armed society is a polite society." ;)

This is the first and last time I will lower myself to reply to any of your posts -I've read all your previous posts and you're as racist as hell, you hate whites and you've got a bad attitude (probably from listening to all that rap crap).


Funny, how you've never accussed any whites of racism on this board. And they make biggotted remarks all the time. But you'll reply to me, my words are more powerful then yours.

This is the first and last time I will lower myself to reply to any of your posts -I've read all your previous posts and you're as racist as hell, you hate whites and you've got a bad attitude (probably from listening to all that rap crap).


Funny, how you've never accussed any whites of racism on this board. And they make biggotted remarks all the time. But you'll reply to me, my words are more powerful then yours.

England alone has a population of 50 million and has a land area of 50,000 sq miles, easy math for anyone - 100 people for every square mile!

I like the "An armed society is a polite society." ;-)yahoo!!! england as a cowboy western, muslims as indians?

I suggest that you call the NRA to get info on how to form political "gun rights" groups, shoting clubs, AK-47 hunting clubs, rhetoric

I suggest that you call the NRA to get info on how to form political "gun rights" groups, shoting clubs, AK-47 hunting clubs, rhetoric
I am on to it straight away randy

I am on to it straight away randy

Dang! every one knows randy here? name change didn't help much :p

This is the first and last time I will lower myself to reply to any of your posts -I've read all your previous posts and you're as racist as hell, you hate whites and you've got a bad attitude (probably from listening to all that rap crap).

This is hiliarous, racist bigot is calling other posters racist here. This is classic. LMAO!!!!!! :D

first of all i live in london, and the population is not spread out, we live in compact tower blocks just like in NY, and we are overcrowded here i do not need to see statistics i live here i see shit with my own 2 eyes, secondly i live here and i havent seen any racial acts over this shit on the streets, i still see black people and muslims hanging and chillin, i dont see mass racism atall, for you yankees and other country people, londons population is about20% white people the rest is black asian and other races, i like the multicultural london, im mixed race myself and my wife is Saint Lucian, all races get along alright here, yeah there is tons of violence and crime in london, but damn show me a all white area or a all black are where there isnt crime, wherever thee are poor people and regular people there will be crime no matter the race of its inhabitance, fuck white people fuck black people fuck asian people fuck all races, there all equally as shit as each other :) and all as good as each other.

first of all i live in london, ....
...londons population is about20% white ...
...yeah there is tons of violence and crime in london, ...

So basically what ye're saying is that even with the high crime rate, and people getting assaulted and killed, ye're okay with it because it happens in all large cities?? I'm sorta' confused about what the point of your post really is/was?

...but damn show me a all white area or a all black are where there isnt crime, ...

Again, ....since violence and crime happens everywhere, then it's okay for it to happen in your city?? You just accept it as the "cost of living" in London?

Baron Max

This is hiliarous, racist bigot is calling other posters racist here. This is classic. LMAO!!!!!! :D
Laugh all you want - I don't like muslims and that is not racist, Islam is not a race, muslims are all shapes and colours. But if you prefer to call me racist then go ahead - it bothers me not. I'm sorry that I cannot assist you out of your stupidity.

The topic of this thread is about Black Gang warfare in England beating the shit out of Pakistanis - as far as I'm concerned leave 'em to it. Both are always bleating on that there is tons of violence here anyway - so let them get on with it. Its just a shame that they are doing it in our backyard, but I wouldn't expect anything less from these people.

The topic of this thread is about Black Gang warfare in England beating the shit out of Pakistanis - as far as I'm concerned leave 'em to it. Both are always bleating on that there is tons of violence here anyway - so let them get on with it. Its just a shame that they are doing it in our backyard, but I wouldn't expect anything less from these people.

America needs to fund both sides as they did to both Iran and Iraq during their war. Hey, we're merely helping speed up the inevitable. :D

- N

Stop lying. Cops don't enforce the laws because they don't care about Black Neighborhoods. The Police should hire more Black officers.. PROBLEM SOLVED. Blacks can't scream RACISM if the arresting officers are Black.


If there weren't so many coloureds creating havoc in this country there would be no need for more black police - get real will you.

What about your White Goverment?

Its not a pure white government, there are coloured MPs too

Who bypassed all international laws and invaded a sovereign country.

Agreed.

Or what about the 2 British Soldiers who were arrested by the Iraqi police for dresssing up like muslims and commiting terrorist acts? And instead of the Brits following the law, they bulldoze the police station and take their men out. Talk about vigilante Justice PLEASE.


When in Rome - do as the Romans

Ever heard of Martin Luther King? John Lennon? Plenty of great speakers were killed for excercising free speech, so your point is?


I believe in free speech - but that has been killed off in Britain by the Political correctness brigades in favour of the immigrant.

Oh I forgot, whites never set off Bombs in the UK. The IRA were all muslims.


Whites have set bombs off in UK - you forgot Guy Fawkes too. No - the IRA are not muslims.

You're just a white supremicist. Who defines Blacks by their worst examples. And at the same time, define whites by their best examples.
I state how things are in the UK and if you dont like it, tough.


You're country is a joke anyway.
Well, if you live here then fuck off -if you dont live here - dont bother coming.

Who had Diana killed because she was going to Marry a Muslim. And didn't want the future king of England to have a Muslim Stepfather, or Muslim Brothers.

Blackrain - you really ought to start a thread on this because what you say here is very interesting. The French have hindered investigations no end on this - which makes the case seem so suspect.


All races are fucked up. That's why you need to realize. Whites have killed more people then any other race. Not because their more evil, it's because they had better technology to kill people with. And they used it, indiscrimantely. And I like how the Brits use the term "Colonization" Colonization is just a bullshit word. In Reality, Colonization means Rape, Murder and Steal. And that's what your country did for centuries. And you have the audacity to point the finger at other races? Nigga Please.

Forget the term "nigger" -that is one thing that will never pass my lips, I hate the sound of it. Dont believe for one minute that I am proud of what Britain did with regards of creating an empire - because I'm not. Look up and see what the Brits did to Tasmania - horrendous. There is so much you don't know about me Blackrain. I am not bothered if anyone calls me racist or not - the racist card is played out to make someone feel guilty about their feelings towards others - I just dont give a stuff what people think about me and I'll say what and when I want -free speech I'm all for it, but thanks to the millions of immigrants and thanks to the biased White goverment and the PC brigade - there is no more free speech in the UK.

Laugh all you want - I don't like muslims and that is not racist, Islam is not a race, muslims are all shapes and colours. But if you prefer to call me racist then go ahead - it bothers me not. I'm sorry that I cannot assist you out of your stupidity.

So you still don't mind being bigot and hypocrate? ;)

So you still don't mind being bigot and hypocrate? ;)
Call me whatever you like - It doesn't bother me.

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'Rivals started riot rape rumour'

The owner of a shop where a teenage girl was allegedly raped, sparking riots in Birmingham, says it was just a rumour to harm his business.

Ajaib Hussein, who owns the Beauty Queens salon in Perry Barr, told BBC Asian Network he believes the rumour was started by commercial rivals.

The rape allegation was broadcast on a pirate radio station, but police say no crime has been reported to them.

Two men have died since rioting flared in Lozells on Saturday evening.

Officers from West Midlands Police have conducted a forensic examination of the beauty salon.

Mr Hussein told the BBC on Monday he plans to re-open his shop "as soon as possible".

He said: "Basically some business people tried to spoil my business and tried to misguide their own public and community against me.

"It has affected me badly. I have lost my business, I have lost my respect with my family and friends.

"My family and friends are stressed but it is stressful throughout our community not only family and friends - in the Asian and black community.

"It is all a business problem. I tried to do my best and I tried to sell my stuff very cheap and that's why the people cannot take it

"They are just playing politics and spoiling my business.

Fatal shooting

"The police interviewed us and let us go and they told my solicitor nothing happened like that in that kind of place (the salon)."

West Midlands Police said it is a matter for traders when they re-open their shops, although they began liaising with shops in Perry Barr and Lozells when the trouble started.

A spokesman said they had always treated the allegation as serious, but no victim has come forward.

During the violence on Saturday one man was stabbed to death by a gang of up to 11 men, after returning home from the cinema.

A second man was shot dead on Sunday in Newtown, near to the scene of further rioting.

Two men have been arrested over the shooting in the Newtown area, but police do not yet know if it is linked to the weekend violence.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/...nds/4373494.stm






So this is how it all starts, Some one like vincent spread rumors and then people die and riots began. A sick mind like vincent and Stu4t can be deadly for any society and Every ONE Can see it right here and these people are destrutive for any Society.

These brits like vincent and stu4t are nothing but the DISEASE of a society who would do anything to create chaos and incite mass rioting and murder in the name of their hatered. :o

These brits like vincent and stu4t are nothing but the DISEASE of a society who would do anything to create chaos and incite mass rioting and murder in the name of their hatered.

And you don't think that the Muslim clerics are doing that? I've read numerous reports about militant Muslim clerics incite their followers to take up the jihad against the west, in any and all forms of violence. There are several Muslim schools for children in Pakistan that "train" their young minds to hate westerners and Jews. Hatred? Oooh, I think the Muslims win that contest with ease!

Baron Max

And you don't think that the Muslim clerics are doing that? I've read numerous reports about militant Muslim clerics incite their followers to take up the jihad against the west, in any and all forms of violence. There are several Muslim schools for children in Pakistan that "train" their young minds to hate westerners and Jews. Hatred? Oooh, I think the Muslims win that contest with ease!

Baron Max


You are acting we tod did. Did I ever say that they are not doing the same thing??? DID I? you phucking idiot. I merely point out the bigotry and double standards and islamophobic hyesteria but you had to start your Rant and whining right?? I never said anything in favor of those psycho pathc islamists or extremists but in the other hand you are showing your fucking idiotic thinking by making more Excuses, becuase muslims do it, you should do it to? What an Idiot.

I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF WHITE COMMUNITIES ABROAD GOING ON A RAMPAGE BECAUSE ONE OF THERE FAMILY MEMBERS IS RAPED OR ATTACKED, WE LET THE POLICE HANDLE THESE MATTERS.

Ever hear of a lynch mob?

Pakistanis aren't asian, are they? I thought they were Muslim Indians, and Indians as we all know are Aryans.

Pakistanis aren't asian, are they? I thought they were Muslim Indians, and Indians as we all know are Aryans.

Well if Pakistanis aren't asian then Americans aren't American - you pillock!

Who taught you??

Ever hear of a lynch mob?

Go on - I'm intrigued - tell us more.................

Alright alright, when someone says 'asian' here in the states, we almost always mean a slant-eye. Someone who's mongloid. Indian's are from the asian continent, but they're cacausian not mongoloid.

Are Brazilians American? Are Hatians American? What about Columbians? Americans are American if they come from the United States of America. Canadians aren't American. Just ask one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynch_mob

Didn't the "peaceful" rapists shout Alla Alkbar, like they do when they cut throats in Iraq, when they blow up infants in Israel etc.?

Islam does not condone rape.

No, but human nature does. Religion is an attempt to control our animal urges, but sometimes, in groups, our instincts overwhelm our better judgement.