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biblthmp
03-26-03, 06:21 PM
U.S. troops capture
chemical warheads?
Report: Russian weapons sent for testing, specialist with Medina unit also nabbed

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Posted: March 26, 2003
6:20 p.m. Eastern



© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

U.S. troops south of Baghdad believe they have captured Russian chemical warheads along with a launcher and a chemical warfare specialist, according to a reporter embedded with the 3rd Infantry Division.

The warheads – discovered in a confrontation with Saddam Hussein's Medina division about 60 miles south of Baghdad – have been transferred for testing, according to Paul Strand of the Christian Broadcasting Network.

A spokesman for the U.S. Army Central Command in Kuwait, Dani Burrows, told WND that her office could not confirm the report. Diane Perry said her Pentagon office had not heard the report but noted that embedded reporters often are getting stories ahead of the Defense Department.

Strand, quoting a "highly placed source," said by telephone that the American troops are not certain they found all of the Medina division's chemical weapons and fear they might be "hit by chemical shells any time now."

The captured warheads had Russian writing on them, he said.


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The reporter noted a report several days ago that Saddam Hussein has pushed the level of authority for using these weapons down to the level of commanders on the front lines.

"That means young officers have the orders now that they can go ahead and use these things if they feel like they are about to be overtaken," he said.

Strand said the 3rd Infantry troops are fully equipped with gear to protect from chemical agents.

"The soldiers I have talked to seem very comfortable about getting hit with this stuff," he said. "The only thing is, nobody wants to live in those masks for weeks."

Concerns were raised Monday by a report that Saddam's Republican Guard units are authorized to use chemical weapons once American troops cross a red line the Iraqis have drawn around a map of Baghdad.

News reports Sunday indicating that U.S. forces had discovered an Iraqi chemical weapons facility have not been verified.

''It's a bit early for us to have any expectation of having found [any weapons],'' Gen. Tommy Franks said Monday at U.S. Central Command in Qatar. ''We'll wait for the days ahead.''

The Bush administration has insisted that Iraq is concealing an extensive biological and chemical weapons program. While making its case for the necessity of disarming Saddam by force, U.S. officials claimed Iraq has 1.5 tons of VX nerve gas, nearly 20,000 liters of anthrax and 30,000 artillery shells or rocket warheads capable of carrying chemical or biological agents.

Tiassa
03-26-03, 06:36 PM
It's odd. You'd think the American media would be all over this, but as of this moment, only a four hour old report from the Christian Broadcasting Network (http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/News/030326c.asp) appears in Google's news search. That is: No CNN, no BBC, no FOX News, no Jerusalem or New York or Washington, DC newspapers; no AP wire, no Reuters wire ....

This is weird.

There are, however, a host of stories about chemical hazard suits and other protective gear discovered. Google news search: chemical weapons (http://news.google.com/news?q=chemical+weapons&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn)

But ... what's going on? Is this a case of anti-Christian bias in the American media? Pro-Russian and pro-Iraqi? I don't get it:PAT ROBERTSON: We are going to our CBN News War Correspondent Paul Strand, embedded with the Army's Third Infantry Division. That's the spearhead of the attack against Baghdad. Paul, we understand you have some shocking news about chemical warheads. Tell us about it.

PAUL STRAND: Yes, Pat, I do. First of all, I hope you can hear me because I am out in that raging sandstorm and it?s hard to hear you. I hope you hear me okay. What I just heard from a highly placed source here is that they've discovered, they've captured chemical warheads, they're Russian, they have Russian writing all over them and they are chemical warheads. Of course, they can't get into them and find out if there?s chemicals because once they open them they'd all die right there on the spot. But they're gonna ship them off for testing.

They also captured a launcher that was able to shoot these very munitions that they've captured. And they?ve captured a man who mixes the chemicals, that was his job with the Medina Division which is the division we're facing right now near the city of Karbala. So all these things leading the military here to believe we might have been hit by chemical shells any time now, and we're not sure we've got them all. So those are the developments here near Karbala about 60 miles south of Baghdad. It will be supremely interesting to follow this story as it develops.

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Tiassa :cool:

Psycho-Cannon
03-27-03, 05:43 AM
Every other "Claim" so far very quickly turned out to be a BS Lie but this is a lot more severe a claim with much more drastic consequences and bodes ill for Russian - American relations, despite of course a lot of the weaponary they Iraqis are using at the moment are American that will be ignored, the fact that these have russian writing on will give the pundits in the US cause to call for Russian blood next.
It will indeed be interesting to see where this goes.

Psycho-Cannon
03-27-03, 06:29 AM
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/mar2003/iraq-m27.shtml


The poison gas attack carried out in the northern Iraqi city of Halabja which killed several thousand Kurdish civilians in March 1988 has been continually used by US president Bush and other leading representatives of the American government to justify a change of government in Iraq. There is now extensive evidence that the person responsible for this atrocity is actively participating in the current war against Iraq—and he is fighting on the side of the US.

Microzoft
03-27-03, 06:43 AM
Following the end of WWII, we collected a great number of War Criminal from Germany, place them in US soil in five-star concentration camps to suck their technologies and know-how, and protected them against the Jew’s head-hunters.

Any surprises now?
:m:

Tiassa
03-27-03, 01:33 PM
Can we prosecute journalists for spreading falsehoods?

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Tiassa :cool:

SuperFudd
03-27-03, 02:07 PM
Nah, we will just have to shoot them.

Microzoft
03-27-03, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by tiassa
Can we prosecute journalists for spreading falsehoods?

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Tiassa :cool: In theory Yes!
However, it is very complex and our justice system too slow. If you pay attention, false information happens too frequently, almost impossible to keep up with, unless an independent institution or organization is fully empowered and dedicated. Since all size profit from false news, nothing will happens.

What I find more intelligent are their latest tricks with the “wording”, that is impossible to tackle. Similar as “severe consequences” has been used in any convenient way, even as far as stating by intellectuals like Bush that it has same meaning as WAR. The are other interesting cases and frequently use, such as “most presumably”, according to “reliable sources”, reliable to whom? Also, frequently use are “It appears”, “some one seams to be certain”, “we have heard”, and many, many more.

In fact, last weekend I decided to spent time with a leading news magazine’s report and remove all the speculations, and I was actually surprised. Without them, there was hardly any news!!
:m:

justiceusa
03-27-03, 02:58 PM
Pat Robertson and CBN frequently broadcast "Creative news reports", they have been doing it for years. It helps to generate donations.

CounslerCoffee
03-27-03, 03:01 PM
The news people are probably waiting for confermation. I know I would. When I watched the election (2000), Dan Rather kept changing what he said. One minute it was "Al Gore has won" Then another minute "George Bush has won!" I believe that the news people should wait for confermation before jumping onto something this big.

(Oh, and Tiassa, something that you should start a thread on: People who are adicted to war coverage. I think I am. I can't take my eyes off of Fox News, TheWashingtonPost.com, The BBC, etc.)

Zero
03-27-03, 03:21 PM
If it gets confirmed, this will be a very major political blow for Russia, and a slightly big blow for the rest of the hippie antiwar coalition (France Germany). Well, we do have very solid evidence now, and they won't have a damn thing to say.

I say if those Wp's of MD work, the hippie antiwar idiots deserve to have them sprayed over their heads.

Microzoft
03-27-03, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Zero
If it gets confirmed, this will be a very major political blow for Russia, .....I say if those Wp's of MD work, the hippie antiwar idiots deserve to have them sprayed over their heads. And if not?

I mean what if it isn’t confirmed by independent reports?
I guess to persons like you, it wouldn’t change a thing, right?
So you don't need reliable reporting.

dsdsds
03-27-03, 03:37 PM
I strongly believe that the media (especially the American media) is by far more powerful than any government, including the U.S. Government. The media is responsible for shaping public opinion. It has the capability of converting an assumption, a half-truth, or even a lie into a reality. (if the majority believes something, it becomes true). The American media (and all media) is biased to some extent. The most dangerous are those who “try” or give the impression of being unbiased. The undetectable subtleties like selection of which reports get aired and the order which both sides get reported (favorite side last) – these subtleties get impregnated into the public’s subconscious and influences people’s views.
I would rather get my news from 2 sources – each obvious and heavily favorting opposite sides than 1 source who claims to be unbiased.

Vortexx
03-27-03, 03:56 PM
If I was Saddams lawyer I would ask the judge to dismiss the case , because the evidence was obtained illigally by invasion without a search warrant from the un :p

Also " My client has bought these rubber suits because he visits kinky parties, also they provide protection against WMD of Rumsfelds marauders who invaded the country"....


BTW: yes I also prefer two obiously biased networks instead of the subtle odourless colourless poisonspreaders...

Just Let Fox News and Al Jahzeera cover the war and let their experts go in crossfire live debats....

Psycho-Cannon
03-28-03, 03:15 AM
Can we proscute the press for false information.
If you want historical presidents yes.
The Pro-war press during WWII that incited racial hatred or lies and propoganda on behalf of Nazi Germany to sway public opinion into a criminal war with lies were put on trial with the rest of the SS and Nazi Generals and suffered the same fate.
They were tried and executed for being instremental in pursing a Criminal war that caused the deaths of millions.

Just a heads up for the leaders of FOX and THE SUN.