Broken promises have brought a dramatic increase in anti-U.S. sentiment across the capital city of Iraq's Diyala province.

In November the International Committee of the Red Cross said that around 60,000 people are currently detained in Iraq.

"The Americans occupied our country and put our men in prisons," Dhafir al-Rubaiee, an officer from Iraq's previous army told IPS. "The majority of these prisoners have been arrested for nothing other than for being Sunni. Every one of these prisoners has a family, and these families now have reason to hate Americans."

Others blame the lack of security and the destroyed infrastructure for the increasing anti-U.S. sentiment.

"The lack of security is a direct result of the occupation," resident Abu Ali told IPS. "The Americans crossed thousands of miles to destroy our home and kill our men. They are the reason for all our disasters."

Another resident, speaking on condition of anonymity added, "We lived in need during the period of the Saddam government, but we were safe. We were compelled to work sometimes 20 hours a day to earn our living, but we were happy to see our children and relatives together." U.S. forces, he said, have ended all that.

Abu Tariq believes the U.S. military intentionally destroyed Iraq's infrastructure. "The Americans destroyed the electricity, water pumping stations, factories, bridges, highways, hospitals, schools, buildings, and opened the borders for strangers and terrorists to get easily into the country," he said.

The large number of Iraqis killed by U.S. forces has also hardly endeared the forces to the people.

"When targeted by a roadside bomb or suicide bomber, U.S. soldiers shoot at people randomly. Innocent civilians have been killed or injured," Yaser Abdul-Rahman, a 45-year-old schoolmaster told IPS. "Thousands of people have been killed like this."

The anti-U.S. sentiment in Baquba is now so high that people no longer hide their distrust of the U.S.

"At the beginning of the occupation, the people of Iraq did not realize the U.S. strategy in the area," Abu Taiseer, a member of the communist party in the city told IPS. "Their strategy is based on destruction and massacre. They do anything to have their agenda fulfilled.

"Now, Iraqis know that behind the U.S. smile is hatred and violence," Taiseer added. "They call others violent and terrorists, but what they are doing in Iraq and in other countries is the origin and essence of terror. America is the biggest producer of terror, and they spend huge funds for creating and training death squads all over the world."

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http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/75060/

So much for TWAT by twits.

in future that'll change...but than future is to come

I'm just waiting for the people of Latin America to rise up in solidarity with oppressed peoples around the world. Remember the death Squads ?

South America is coming together, mobilized by strong antipathy toward the USA from that dark memory. Now that Death Squad tactics are Surging in Iraq, there's accumulating hell to pay from the Mideast region, too. It's as if we in the USA have a psychotic urge to demolish international goodwill toward ourselves, just at the moment in history when our economy most depends upon it.

Looks like my generation are in for a hell of a time.

As for mine, "things they do, look awful c-c-c-cold... Hope I die, before I git old (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqfFrCUrEbY)."

Just a passing comment: Your opinions may stroke your own feel-goods, but they fall short of persuading a majority of we Americans that your opinions on anything are more important to us than are our own.

Joist until you are winded, if you feel the need.

not the greatest producer but greatest user of it under bush

"U.S. 'the Biggest Producer of Terror"--yeah, right. :rolleyes:

How many innocent people have we sawed the heads off of?

How many children did we use as suicide bombers?

How many innocent people have we terrorized around the world in the last two days?

Today's offering from the Religion of Peace:

2/7/2008 (Narathiwat, Thailand) - Islamic radicals kidnap a young man in his 20's, bind him, slash his throat and then shoot him in the head.
2/6/2008 (Yala, Thailand) - A 21-year-old man is shot to death by Muslim militants.
2/6/2008 (Kirkuk, Iraq) - A 7-year-old girl and a woman are killed in separate Jihad bombings.
2/6/2008 (Muqdadiyah, Iraq) - Ten headless bodies are found, presumably kidnap victims decapitated by the Mujahideen.
2/6/2008 (Diwaniya, Iraq) - Four people are killed when Jihadis bomb a minibus.
2/6/2008 (Khyber, Pakistan) - A civilian is killed in a bomb blast

Did you miss the millions of tonnes of bombs the US threw on Iraq?

SAM, this really didn't require a new thread.
Infact, all of your posts (barring the ones where you take nose-criticism in good humour) should realistically be confined to one thread since they are the one topic. The thread could be entitled "Death to America! Brown power!".
Then the mods could look at it and think about it for 2 seconds before banning you permanently in the name of consistency.

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You were saying?

Just some stuff which is considerably easier for you to ignore than argue with.

I still want to know why muslims blow up themselves/other innocent people on an almost daily basis? If even one Christian did this, they and their entire religion would be crucified. :(

I still want to know why muslims blow up themselves/other innocent people on an almost daily basis? If even one Christian did this, they and their entire religion would be crucified. :(

If you supply them with planes and missiles, they will stop.:shrug:

I still want to know why muslims blow up themselves/other innocent people on an almost daily basis? If even one Christian did this, they and their entire religion would be crucified. :(
It says the biggest producer of terror. Not the biggest terrorists. You don't have to suicide bomb or behead people to instill terror in a population.

If you supply them with planes and missiles, they will stop.
Wouldn't it be easier and safer to thoroughly and indiscriminately cluster bomb the middle east?

What you suggest is basically rewarding terrorist behaviour, why should the west hold the terrorist's fellow citizens in higher regard than they do? If they want to drag the war into the suburbs amongst civilians, that is their doing and they should be held accountable for the results of these actions.

It says the biggest producer of terror. Not the biggest terrorists. You don't have to suicide bomb or behead people to instill terror in a population.

Thanks, Xel, I know what it says. I still want to know why muslims blow up themselves/other innocent people on an almost daily basis?

If you supply them with planes and missiles, they will stop.:shrug:
can't you answer a simple question?

If they want to drag the war into the suburbs amongst civilians, that is their doing and they should be held accountable for the results of these actions.

I really don't think advocating support for 9/11 is a good idea.:mad:

Yeah that made sense.

The reality is Middle eastern terrorists took the fight to american civilians on 9/11, and now they lure the fight to middle eastern civilians in iraq.
You say 'oh well they would be more courageous if they had jets and missiles", I'm sure they would be, but if you lose you lose, resorting to hiding behind civilians in your own country while you fight is as low as you can possibly go.
What's the point of them even fighting at that stage? To preserve evil?

It's just so ridiculous then that people like you whine about americans killing civilians, obviously americans are dramatically inconveniencing themselves to not kill civilians, an unprecedented peculiar and unnatural courtesy.
Any instances of some being killed is entirely the fault of your beloved freedom fighters, and the fact isolated incidents of it occurring can even be noticed is purely indicative of the outrageously bizarre courtesy being afforded to the people of iraq. A courtesy that costs american lives.
What a world we live in.

Yeah that made sense.

The reality is Middle eastern terrorists took the fight to american civilians on 9/11, and now they lure the fight to middle eastern civilians in iraq.
You say 'oh well they would be more courageous if they had jets and missiles", I'm sure they would be, but if you lose you lose, resorting to hiding behind civilians in your own country while you fight is as low as you can possibly go.
What's the point of them even fighting at that stage? To preserve evil?

It's just so ridiculous then that people like you whine about americans killing civilians, obviously americans are dramatically inconveniencing themselves to not kill civilians, an unprecedented peculiar and unnatural courtesy.
Any instances of some being killed is entirely the fault of your beloved freedom fighters, and the fact isolated incidents of it occurring can even be noticed is purely indicative of the outrageously bizarre courtesy being afforded to the people of iraq. A courtesy that costs american lives.
What a world we live in.

So you're saying one day some ME woke up and said, lets attack America? Why?

Who knows. Everything is everyone elses fault. The U.s was responsible for the balck plague also and rickets.

Who knows. Everything is everyone elses fault. The U.s was responsible for the balck plague also and rickets.

How many foreign troops do you see in the US?

Whatever, they disapproved of America, who gives a shit?
As you so rightly point out they don't have the firepower to disapprove of America.
They're just so worthlessly opinionated they resort to cowardly tactics to destroy innocent american civilians, and then hide amongst their own civilians, using their mothers and sisters as human shields while they fight a war they had no business getting involved in.

Get fucked blaming anyone other than your scumbag terrorists for the fact the odd innocent middle easterner gets blown up.
This is why it seems all muslims support terrorism, not one of them will say "stupid fucking terrorists, how dare you start a war with america and then hide amongst innocent families while they retaliate? You are killing your own people you stupid reckless morons".
No, instead america is criticised.
As far as I'm concerned that just shows the restraint by the US army is unjustified, they are working under the delusion that some middle easterners support them.
The fact no middle easterners do support them doesn't mean the US should back down and go home, it simply means they shouldn't worry about killing civilians anymore, they can relax and start fighting the war like wars are supposed to be fought.
There's an enemy, destroy it. No, it's not just the ones hiding behind the women and children in the suburbs and cities wearing balaclavas and holding rpgs, it's all of them, they've all declared themselves as enemies.
These human shields don't just physically place themselves between american gun fire and the fighters, they defend them in spirit, they support them.
So there's no reason to have soldiers running into houses to accidentally shoot innocent people, they can purposefully without accident blow the whole house to smithereens with no guilt whatsoever.

Whatever, they disapproved of America, who gives a shit?
As you so rightly point out they don't have the firepower to disapprove of America.
They're just so worthlessly opinionated they resort to cowardly tactics to destroy innocent american civilians, and then hide amongst their own civilians, using their mothers and sisters as human shields while they fight a war they had no business getting involved in.

Get fucked blaming anyone other than your scumbag terrorists for the fact the odd innocent middle easterner gets blown up.
This is why it seems all muslims support terrorism, not one of them will say "stupid fucking terrorists, how dare you start a war with america and then hide amongst innocent families while they retaliate? You are killing your own people you stupid reckless morons".
No, instead america is criticised.
As far as I'm concerned that just shows the restraint by the US army is unjustified, they are working under the delusion that some middle easterners support them.
The fact no middle easterners do support them doesn't mean the US should back down and go home, it simply means they shouldn't worry about killing civilians anymore, they can relax and start fighting the war like wars are supposed to be fought.
There's an enemy, destroy it. No, it's not just the ones hiding behind the women and children in the suburbs and cities wearing balaclavas and holding rpgs, it's all of them, they've all declared themselves as enemies.
These human shields don't just physically place themselves between american gun fire and the fighters, they defend them in spirit, they support them.
So there's no reason to have soldiers running into houses to accidentally shoot innocent people, they can purposefully without accident blow the whole house to smithereens with no guilt whatsoever.


You're right. The US should embark on killing all ME people, including civilians.

I don't see any reason for restraint. Do you?

You're right. The US should embark on killing all ME people, including civilians.

I don't see any reason for restraint. Do you?
No.
You're a perfect example of why they shouldn't bother restraining anything.
There's a peculiar unfortunate situation where all ME civilians are brainwashed into being supporters of terrorism.

So even if we nobley wish to uphold this unusual concept of not-killing the harmless civilians of our rival nations, this should be treated as a special case where they aren't innocent civilians but only terrorists and staunch supporters of terrorism.
We're invading a cult of enemies, not a normal society infected with extremists.
The fact the normal people defend the extremists is a dead give away and a deal breaker.

No.
You're a perfect example of why they shouldn't bother restraining anything.
There's a peculiar unfortunate situation where all ME civilians are brainwashed into being supporters of terrorism.

So even if we nobley wish to uphold this unusual concept of not-killing the harmless civilians of our rival nations, this should be treated as a special case where they aren't innocent civilians but only terrorists and staunch supporters of terrorism.
We're invading a cult of enemies, not a normal society infected with extremists.
The fact the normal people defend the extremists is a dead give away and a deal breaker.

Yeah, makes sense to simply bomb all civilians instead. Absolutely.

No point in looking to understand why something happens or look for reasonable ways to reach resolution. Bomb! Kill! Thats the answer.

Right?

Yes.
Correct.

I didn't realise I was being vague or ambiguous.

Yes.
Correct.

I didn't realise I was being vague or ambiguous.

Congratulations. You are officially thinking like a terrorist. Good luck with your 9/11 :)

Are you coming on to me?

Nah, its interesting to me how some people think.

I like to tease them into exposing themselves.

You're right. The US should embark on killing all ME people, including civilians...

Why? We have nothing against ME people as long as they're not terrorists.

The muslims are the ones killing civilians all over the world.

Thanks, Xel, I know what it says. I still want to know why muslims blow up themselves/other innocent people on an almost daily basis?
Because they don't have laser guided bombs and cruise missiles. They don't stand a snowball's chance in hell if they go toe to toe with the US military, so they turn to suicide bombing and guerilla warfare to fight for what they believe in. That's no justification by any means, but it's not hard to imagine why they do it.

Look, as much as I'd enjoy a rusty trumbone from you SAM, I have to confess I'm not a terrorist, if you pay closer attention I actually only want to kill actively vocal enemies, not innocent people who couldn't give two shits about what me or my country does.

Look, as much as I'd enjoy a rusty trumbone from you, I have to confess I'm not a terrorist, if you pay closer attention I actually only want to kill actively vocal enemies, not innocent people who couldn't give two shits about what me or my country does.

I don't want to kill anyone, I just fail to see the logic in condemning those who want only to live their own lives in their own countries.

The U.S. -is- the biggest producer of terror. We're all over the place sticking our greedy hands into other countries' cookie jars. It's a fact of life. That's the way any top organization is, whether it's a gang, mafia, corporation, or country. We go out and do what we do to gain the most benefits for ourselves while exploiting others. In other words: capitalism.

It sucks for others while we all benefit from it, but now it's getting out of control with all the blowback where it's all coming back to haunt us. We lived the good life exploiting others but now they're pissed off and are coming for us, and now our government and sheeple populace are scared allowing the government to take away our rights to combat the problem we've created (terrorism, illegal immigration, etc etc). Good things only last for so long.

- N