Surprise surprise….in case someone doesn't believing that the US military and their leaders aren’t hypocrites


U.S. intelligence personnel ordered military dog handlers at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq (news - web sites) to use unmuzzled dogs to frighten and intimidate detainees during interrogations late last year, a plan approved by the highest-ranking military intelligence officer at the facility, according to sworn statements the handlers provided to military investigators. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1802&ncid=1802&e=1&u=/washpost/a32776_2004jun10

Well, to be fair, muzzled dogs aren't gonna scare anybody. Although, if they were dobermans, they might have dishonored the prisoners by having sex with them. Dobermans are known for their horny nature. :p

And of course, the soldiers were following orders. Only simps think that the soldiers were acting on their own. It's a shame that our congress doesn't have the courage to follow this to the highest levels. Maybe they will once Bush is out of office or say in 30 years when he's dead (if he's dead.) The way it usually works, they'll probably try pinning it on Kerry.

I'm sure whoever ordered these atrocities is aware of the fact that Muslim fundamentalists believe that dogs are unclean, the way Orthodox Jews (and also Muslims) think that pigs are unclean. In places where the Islamic wackos get control, like Taliban Afghanistan, ownership of dogs is forbidden except for herding and guarding. No pets. No dogs in the house, no touching dogs.

More moderate Muslims, like most of the people in Iraq, don't believe that and many of them have pet dogs. Perhaps you've seen photos of president Musharraf of Pakistan, he often conspicuously poses with his pet dog as if to say, "Look here, Westerners, here in Pakistan we're not wackos. We even love dogs just like you do."

Yet they probably have an instinctive reaction to a hostile dog, the same way a Reformed Jew would feel about running into a wild boar even though he may have had bacon for breakfast.

This was just one more way of showing the Iraqis that America has new, cruel and evil leadership. The America is a distant memory, the one that sent German and Japanese P.O.W.s home after WWII so they could tell all their friends, "You know, those G.I.s were REALLY nice to us. Considering that we had been caught killing their friends, they treated us with complete respect. I guess Americans are a pretty decent people after all and we should try to make peace with them."

Nobody is saying that about us NOW. You'd think that this administration actually WANTS the world's two billion Muslims to believe that we really are the Great Satan. After all, it MUST have been deliberately orchestrated to have all those photos taken of the Abu Ghraib abuse, and THEN to make sure that they saturated all the media on the entire planet for weeks. The govenment that can suppress absolutely anything it wants made sure that every Muslim on earth has seen those photos.

Is this a damn shit-for-brains redneck Christian president from the Bible Belt dragging the entire nation into a holy war? Is it time to impeach his pampered, illiterate ass, or better yet, put him up in front of a court martial as the head of the U.S. military?

The America is a distant memory, the one that sent German and Japanese P.O.W.s home after WWII so they could tell all their friends, "You know, those G.I.s were REALLY nice to us.

I'm not sure about Japanese P.O.W.s but the Germans were definitely treated well. It's a shame that things have changed so much. I had never thought of it like that. But, I guess that was before we learned the lessons of the cold war and Vietnam. After a time, we become like the enemy.

Has anybody heard anything about Guatanomo lately? That's the prison I'm more concerned with, especially since Abu Ghraib is in the past. We can't just hold these people with no trial forever.

America has been moving to a prison state mentality over the last few decades. I saw a report somewhere that if the prison growth at that time were to continue for a few decades, there would come a time when everyone in the US was either in prison or working in some fashion for the prison industry. Growing food for prisoners, making clothes for prisoners, etc... Now, I'm sure this report was biased and have no links to it. So don't jump on me about that. But, the prison industry is a big business nonetheless. I used to work at a warehouse that shipped toiletries (toothpaste, toothbrush, vaseline <----I shit you not. :P). You'd be surprised at how much money is shufflin' around because of the prison system. The town where I grew up is a tiny little town in the heartland of the US. It's about 1 square mile. Our cops supplemented their income by holding prisoners from the state. The prisons are so full that they're paying cops to hold some of them. Our cops had a pretty high budget because of this. A lot of cops on payroll in a small town hassling people that really didn't deserve it putting more people in the prison system. It's a vicious cycle.

Anyway, why I mention this is because Guatanomo and Abu Ghraib set bad precedents. War on the front always returns home. And I'm a decadent American who doesn't want to fall prey these injustices. ;)

I’ve lived around dogs the whole of my life, and a barking dog straining at the lead when I’m naked and pushed against a wall would make me scared. To say nothing of the fact that this ‘scare’ technique resulted in prisoners having to be treated for dog bites.

I get the feeling that the US leadership thinks of its self as so great and powerful that it has no need for international treaties or the Geneva convention, supported by the lack of respect being shown the Iraq prisoners. This of course is rather silly. Neo-colonisation relies on getting them into following the same game rules as you. The way the US are heading the whole middle east will consolidate, focusing on being anti-US.

I’m surprised that the soldiers didn’t force feed the prisoners pork, maybe they haven’t read their bible enough to partake in that particular historic humiliation.