The U.S has just recently had Katrina--force 5+ , and now thewy are getting ready for Rita.
How rare is this would you say?

How rare is this would you say?

Hum,
Don’t worry,
It seems to be quite normal, given that global warming is here to stay (er, until it goes away).

http://static.flickr.com/31/45412249_eceefedd73_o.jpg

It doesn`t seem that big from up here...

if it makes landfall in eastern texas, where there is 12 major oil refinieries (suppling 1/4 of the u.s refined oil), gas prices are expected to hike to $5 a gallon

Which is STILL much lower than UK prices. Stop complaining.

There were two back in the early 1950's if I recall.

Which is STILL much lower than UK prices. Stop complaining.

We are paying $2.00 a LITRE in the UK! Not easy.

peace

c20

I wasnt aware that I was complaining. I do not even have a car.

P.S.... $2 a litre? Holy smokes.. thats like $6 a gallon... wow. Didnt know the prices where so high there

omfg global warming! the same theory that says that methane actually retains heat at this planet's average temperatures (it doesn't), and ironically is the basis for the kyoto protocol! it basically says 1st world countries must cut back on emissions, while communist superpowers like... CHINA get to INCREASE. suspicious, anyone? right, of course it is, so let's blame two hurrianes in a row on Bush, since he has a big lever in his office that does that.

but damn, this is the earth science board, pardon me for conspiracy theory, i felt it was relevant.

omfg global warming! the same theory that says that methane actually retains heat at this planet's average temperatures (it doesn't), and ironically is the basis for the kyoto protocol! it basically says 1st world countries must cut back on emissions, while communist superpowers like... CHINA get to INCREASE. suspicious, anyone? right, of course it is, so let's blame two hurrianes in a row on Bush, since he has a big lever in his office that does that.

but damn, this is the earth science board, pardon me for conspiracy theory, i felt it was relevant.

can you explain what you mean more clearly.....are you questioning Global Warmingas being some kind of myth????????

Are you suggesting Bush co is having weather manipulated?

or is it a combination?

just give us your considered views....and listen i dont goonna call you conspiracy theorist....i have no probs with all that hah

There were two in 1954 see this table....


http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/Landsea/deadly/Table2.htm

Which is STILL much lower than UK prices. Stop complaining.
But you get that back in services, since most of the difference is tax.

But you get that back in services, since most of the difference is tax.

That's only partially true, isn't it? I mean, you get that back ONLY if you suck at the tit of the rest of society, right?

Baron Max

I don't know what the UK spends it's petrol tax money on, if it's something like road maintenence, then every driver would benefit. Hopefully, it's something like mass transit.

Oh, here's a handy chart: Figure 1: Taxation on petrol in cents per litre for selected OECD countries

http://www.dpmc.gov.au/publications/energy_future/chapter5/images/5_fig_1.gif

On an island as small as England, and with so many people, taxing gas is a good way to discourage driving, prevent unneccessary build up of automobile infrastructure (LA, Worst City in the World, is something like 60% automobile infrastructure– parking, pavement, etc.), and cut down on emissions.

to clarify, i think global warming is a highly over-exagerated myth, and that bush is getting way too much flak for a failure in social services that was not in his direct control, but in the hands of many other capable and responsible people.

Global warming is not a myth.

The debate is about whether humans are responsible for it.
Most of that has been settled in the US.

The U.S has just recently had Katrina--force 5+ , and now thewy are getting ready for Rita.
How rare is this would you say?

Not all that rare, really. Records seem to indicate the the number and intensity operate on a 20 - 30 year cycle. That should give you some perspective.

sorry but the more i read the more i am not sure global warming is not a myth, its part of a natural cycle from hot to cold and back and forth but from the records of our planets past I really wouldn't worry to much about alot of heat because the climate has shifted abruptly in the past and could very easily do it again, with whats going on with our oceans, the temps, some of the glaciers melting some growing its hard to tell

Not all that rare, really. Records seem to indicate the the number and intensity operate on a 20 - 30 year cycle. That should give you some perspective.

your source?

Global warming is one preportion of why the weather systems are mucked up, however there is also the slow change in the the magnetic poles positioning which in turn means a slight alteration in the earths axis tilt, which in turn means a slight change in the earths orbit of the sun.

If it was possible to find an accurate model of the earths rotation around the sun you'd get a better understanding of why some years summers are hot and other years they aren't so hot or in the case of the hurricanes, how the temperature causes High pressure fronts through convection.

your source?

A news article on MSNBC.com and they cited NOAA as their source. I read it on Wednesday. Checked again just now but the article is no longer listed in their headlines.

Global warming is one preportion of why the weather systems are mucked up, however there is also the slow change in the the magnetic poles positioning which in turn means a slight alteration in the earths axis tilt, which in turn means a slight change in the earths orbit of the sun.

If it was possible to find an accurate model of the earths rotation around the sun you'd get a better understanding of why some years summers are hot and other years they aren't so hot or in the case of the hurricanes, how the temperature causes High pressure fronts through convection.

The shape of earth's orbit changes very slowly...if I remember right, there are two known (Milankovitch) orbital cycles of 100,000 and 400,000 years, plus several other Milankovitch cycles of shorter duration. (axial tilt, precession of the equinox) That's too slow to notice in just a few years. According to the Milankovith cycle theory we should be re-entering the Ice Age within the next 10,000 years.

to clarify, i think global warming is a highly over-exagerated myth, and that bush is getting way too much flak for a failure in social services that was not in his direct control, but in the hands of many other capable and responsible people.
Like the horse judge Bush appointed to head FEMA?