The whole concept of 'false light' is an interesting one.
I cannot imagine a 'false light' because if it shines it 'is' light and cannot be mistaken for anythig else.
However I can define in terms of words but only when I transpose the word 'light' for 'love'.

I'll provide an example ...

The True Light says ...

Father's, punish your children when they misbehave, if you do not you will ruin the child.

The False Light says ...

Father's, who are you to punish your children when they misbehave? If you touch them you are wicked hypocrites!

Now both claim to be coming from a 'loving perspective' but are quite clearly opposed.

Lets examine this phenomena ...

The true light gives authority to the father of the child. I call it the true light because in truth we know that it is good that kids do what their parents tell them whether it seems fair or not to the child. After all the child's welfare is always paramount and so they ought trust that their parents's are only acting in their best interests. As a parent, I only get cross with my kids when I see that they are doing something that is detrimental to them. If they do not follow my word then I have a duty to keep them in check because I know that the punishment I exact will be proportional with the disobedience. If I didnt exact my own punishment then my child may very well squeeze through the railings on the bridge we are standing on and plunge to their deaths which would not be a fitting lesson for disobeying my word. My child's defiance will cause his death if he is not kept in check.
The false light gives authority to the child and ignores the father's concern for his child. The false light admonishes the father for caring about the welfare of the child and tells the child that their father is wrong for being 'angry' at the disobedience. But we know that unchecked the child will seek his own way through those railings and plunge to their deaths.

So the true light struggles with patience until frustration becomes unbearable and then it acts with a force that punishes that which it loves in the interest of that which it loves whereas the false light struggles with nothing and rebukes that which does struggle in the interest of others.
The false light is puffed up. It says "I would NEVER do anything to harm another person because to lay a finger on another human person is evil no matter who they are" whereas the true light says "I will use WHATEVER means at my disposal to protect that which does not know right from wrong because I love them."
The false light seeks the praise of others because of their 'goodness' whereas the true light seeks approval from no-one and just acts in love even if they could themselves be accused of acting violently towards their child.
The true light is honest about its nature. The false light is not it seems.

Discuss!


Thanks

c20

Reminds me of a song...

There’s a smog moon in the amber sky, wavering and burning like a golden lie. I fell so far, I didn’t think I’d make it back. We are all made as an afterthought, destined to believe that we are what we are not. I’m afraid. But I don’t need to tell you that. There’s a smog moon coming, I can always feel it. The cartoon trees can not conceal it. When it’s high up in the sky, it almost looks like it is white. When it’s high up in the sky, it almost looks like…

There’s a lost man, with a bitter soul. Only for a moment did life make him whole. And when he was, he thought he was invincible. There’s a smog moon coming, I can always feel it. The cartoon trees can not conceal it. When it’s high up in the sky, it almost looks like it is white. When it’s high up in the sky, it almost looks like it is white.

They’re not your words, but you’re reciting the lines. You don’t mean a thing but you exist in their minds. How does it feel when they have turned out the lights? ‘Cause you know they sooner would get rid of you, than fight. And the dark night has the strongest pull. We both know that staying young can take it’s toll. Are you afraid of finding out you’re over that? There’s a smog moon coming, I can always feel it. The cartoon trees can not conceal it. When it’s high up in the sky, it almost looks like it is white. When it’s high up in the sky, it almost looks like…

This song, God showed me to depict the lie of the antichrist...the end times deception...the religion of the false prophet...the promise of a false saviour...all of that peace, love and light new age happy horse shit. It's a lie...a devastating one.

I will use WHATEVER means at my disposal to protect that which does not know right from wrong because I love them. What if the only way was to sin yourself? Would you do something you know to be wrong to prevent an unknowing transgression?
And what of those who do know right from wrong, and yet still sin? If they do not repent, surely the kindest thing is to kill them, to prevent them from sinning further.

It's like this...

The sun is the source of light. The moon is a big dark rock in the sky that emits no light itself, but reflects the suns rays that shine upon it...and that's the only reason that we can see it here on earth at night.

So imagine that you are existing in a state of perpetual "night" or darkness...like a vampire...you migrate or hibernate or whatever it takes to avoid the light of day. You do this because you have been told a lie...by the moon say. The moon told you that the sun was bad...that it's light would blind you and that it's heat would burn you. And so you stay out of it...away from it at all costs.

But at night, you stand in the darkness and look up at the moon. You see it shine in the sky and you see it's glow upon you and upon that which is around you. And when you see this, the moon tells you that it is the source of the light that shines from it. That it creates the light, and is the source of the light, that creates the glow that is upon you. And because you don't know any better...having never seen the sun...and not knowing the law...you believe the moon.

Until one day, when for whatever reason, you find the courage to face the day. And as you step into the light of the sun, you see that it's light does not blind you, but that you can now see everything so much clearer than you could before...everything around you, and even you yourself are so bright and beautiful...you had no idea. But now, instead of being blinded, you could see so much better...because duh...it's the darkness that blinds you, not the light! And you feel that the warmth of the sun does not burn you, but feels so good...it feels like a hug...it feels like love. And you watch and realize that it is the source of life...that most everything that is alive thrives on it for growth.

Or how about mirrors? When the light hits a mirror that is straight and true, the reflection that you see in it is straight and true. But when the same light hits a funhouse mirror...one that is bent and warped, the reflection that you see with those same eyes is bent and warped.

And what of those who do know right from wrong, and yet still sin? If they do not repent, surely the kindest thing is to kill them, to prevent them from sinning further.

That's not true...no one can know what the future holds for a person except for God, which is why we as humans have no right to take a life in judgement...in defense yes, if that's what it comes to...but judgement, no. Let them sin and reap the hideous consequences of it. To be kind would be to pray that the consequences would be most hideous. Perhaps one day they will become so devastated and humbled by those consequences that they turn to God for forgiveness and salvation???? Then, through prayer, you would have hoped to save their life instead of taking it.

What if the only way was to sin yourself? Would you something you know to be wrong to prevent an unknowing transgression?
And what of those who do know right from wrong, and yet still sin? If they do not repent, surely the kindest thing is to kill them, to prevent them from sinning further.

God is misunderstood. Not because He is not plain to see but that we have been told by some enemy to 'look over there' instead. So we go stumbling off 'over there' and then turn around and say "What? What Am I supposed to be doing?"
Then, the one who told us to 'look over there' laughs at us for being so stupid. We are mocked. We feel mocked. And then that enemy says "And you reckon God loves you??? You idiot!"
I am just the voice of one on the internet who says "Don't be mocked. God loves you. I am for you. Here is a voice that is for you."
Those who hear me, may gather round the campfire and we will tell stories. I, then you, then you, then you."

peace
c20

I admit I'm playing Devil's advocate, but I'll at least try and answer your points.
we as humans have no right to take a life in judgement And I say to you, in an echo of a million other threads "That's not what it says in the bible" I'd love to be disproved, but I want an actual quote from the bible, OT or NT, which says that we should always forgive.
But please, no more empty analogies.

geodesic,

I'm not sure if I can do that, as I am no Bible thumper...hmm...what about the story about the adultress and the people who wanted to stone her, and Jesus said to let him who is without sin cast the first stone? Would that suffice?

I said what I did because that topic actually came up between God and I. I was unsure about how to consider the death penalty. I think it was when I had heard that some serial killer...was it the son of sam possibly...said that he was born again. He was on death row when he said that...and I figured...good thing he found Christ before they killed him. Not that God doesn't work around our efforts right or wrong. If someone is destined to be saved, then they will be. Human efforts do not thwart God's will in any case...so in that respect, it doesn't really matter what we do...to kill or not. God can take the most horrible act or tragedy and make good of it. And I would say that it matters more to the killer than the victim...for they are the ones who have to live with it. But to answer theoretically, whether it is right or wrong, God says that humans do not know the future as He does, so only He has the knowledge required to decide if a life can be taken or not and when. So for example, what if the killer on death row would have offered his life to Christ, asked for forgiveness, received salvation, and been born again five minutes after we flicked the switch? We don't know what the future holds for any individual...we have no knowledge to judge another's heart and it's condition, or it's future condition...only God does. And like I said, this is only a theoretical arguement, because since God knows the future, He allows for it in His will. We only think that we have control, but we never thwart His will in any instance regarding anything. So to kill or not to kill, God accomplishes exactly what He wants to in all of our lives regardless.

So to kill or not to kill, God accomplishes exactly what He wants to in all of our lives regardless.


Yes. At His Majesties Good Pleasure.