Tornado storm across the US

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Asguard, Feb 7, 2008.

  1. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    For anyone effected, you have my sympathies. Hopefully Bush does a better job cleaning this one up than he did katrina
     
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  3. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Why was it Bush's responsibility? Aren't there state and federal agnecies in place to do that? What does Bush have to do with it???

    I feel really bad for those people. Tornados, especially at night, are scarey as hell.
     
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  5. sandy Banned Banned

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    Didn't you know everything is W's fault?

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  7. Dr Lou Natic Unnecessary Surgeon Registered Senior Member

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    Not orleander's chlamydia.
     
  8. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    look at that, I did spell it wrong. dork (and we all know what that is)
     
  9. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Damn it.

    What?
     
  10. draqon Banned Banned

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    They will get what they asked for.
     
  11. superstring01 Moderator

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    The tornadoes in Kansas are known to suck houses and pubescent teenage girls up in them and deposit them in far-off lands with witches and fairytale creatures.

    They'll get you and your little do too, if you're not careful!

    ~String
     
  12. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    5 days notice and and they sat on their ass's until it was up to their roofs, and its Bush's fault, Ray School Bus Nagan, the school bus's aren't good enough to evacuate New Orleans, so let them drowned, and run in circles scream and shout, and Governor Blanco, some one had to tell her that She had to request the Federal Government to come to the States aid so it would be legal for them to do so, some silly little thing in Federal Law the Posse Comitatus Act


    Guess who lead the charge in getting that act passed? the Southern States, after the Civil War.

    And its all Bush's fault.
     
  13. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    yeah, I don't have much sympathy for them either. Then to rebuild in the exact same place??? WTHell!?
     
  14. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    Umm who exactly made FEMA a minor part of Homeland secrity rather than standing in there own right and able to make there OWN decisions?

    If they knew 5 days BEFORE it hit that it was going to be a national crisis why didnt they declare a national disaster (or whatever the federal rulling is) BEFORE it hit, start to move federal assests into place BEFORE it hit?

    Hell disaster planing here takes place YEARS before the fire hits, The goverments all get themselves into action to deal with the damage before the fire is even out. Look at the fires on Kangroo Island? The largest portion of the Island was burnt out and yet its up and running again already. Look at the clean up after the cyclone in Brisbane? Look at ANY disaster that happens here and see how fast the SES, Army, St Johns, Salvation army, Red cross, ect are mobilised. Look how fast the money flows from the State and Comonwealth goverments

    Its a matter of HOURS not Months. It was a discrase what happened and maybe it wasnt bush's fault but he is the one whos door the goverments poor responce must fall just as if it happened here it would fall on the office of the PM
     
  15. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    because the state said they had it under control. The mayor said he had his town well taken care of. Everything was in place. Then it all fell apart.
    They didn't count on the levy breaking. They didn't count on criminals roaming the streets and shooting at helicopters.

    There is not 1 group in control. It was several layers of groups who failed in their responsibility, including the citizens on NO.

    Its amazing how you know so much about it in Australia.
     
  16. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Asguard, guess what they do those drills all the time, and again look up the Posse Comitatus Acts.

    It is against Federal Law for a Federal Agency to enter a State and start enforcing State Laws, even State Disaster Laws, with out the State Doing the Proper Procedures to bring the Federal Agency in and allow them to operate legally, that is why they have Disaster Drill so every body knows what and when they are suppose to do what, the State of Louisiana didn't implement the plan, they by federal law, the Posse Comitatus Act, have to request and give permission for the Federal Agency to enter the State and start enforcing any part of the Law Structure involved in Disaster Relief.
     
  17. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    What a silly idea, "oh we didnt get the paperwork so thousands die". God i HATE red tape.
     
  18. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    No it is a Legally Defined Law, and the States are suppose to hold disaster drills so that every body know what their responsibility is, and what their proper actions need to be, you love to shove the law as you see it down everybody throat, well this is the Law, and laws have to be honored and obeyed, and in the U.S. the State has to request by law that Federal Resources enter the State in a emergency, it is the same for every state in America, every State knows the Laws, and the way that the Plans must be put into action.

    California had no problem receiving Federal Aid during the Fire's, Why? because they implemented the Disaster Plan as it was suppose to be done, they requested the aid at the proper time, and everybody knew what and when they were suppose to do what was required, They followed their Disaster Drills.
     
  19. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    ps: the paper work can be done later, all she had to do was make the request verbally.
     
  20. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    there is a HUGE difference between laws that help and those that hurt. Those sort of mestakes are exactly why the coronor recomended the Cambera fire service be ablolished and intergrated into the NSW fire service. So that help can be dispached by the a simple call over the radio rather than a govermental decision. The more integration the better and maybe it was the fault of the state govonor. Why is the place STILL a mess? Why was FEMA so inefective when dispached? These are the questions that needed to be asked. Who lost there job over it? That sort of thing here would at the very LEAST lose the emergency services minister his job, possably the premura or the PM there jobs and could actually cost a party goverment. Who paid for that and why are things STILL not sorted out? (im sorry if they are, im basing that on the occasional bitching by people in the US here)
     
  21. 15ofthe19 35 year old virgin Registered Senior Member

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    We had a little bit of good news today in TN. Some rescue workers were searching a field of debris about 100 yards away from a demolished home, and came across what they initially thought to be a doll - until the doll started crying.

    It was a baby that had been swept out of its home and landed in the field nearby. Alive, and in relatively good shape, considering. Unfortunately, the mother died in the storm. But nonetheless, a reminder to never give up home in a dreadful situation. Pray for the little one.
     
  22. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    I herd about that child. Poor kid

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  23. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Google up, ( Louisiana's history of corruption ) and start reading.
     

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