The number of "Run away Soldiers " is increasing rapidly due to the increase of resistance operations in Iraq.

Tens of US soldiers are killed and wounded daily.

Smugglers get $5oo for each run away coalition soldier . They say: the Americans choose their way whether through Turkey, Syria or Jordan.

One of the smugglers ,who asked us not to mention his name, told "Al Riyadh" newspaper last friday: He's happy with the "good" money he's making now for two reasons ; the first one is financial , and the second because the occupiers are leaving his country.

Some Iraqi farmers revealed to " Al Riyadh" correspondent some top secret and classified information .

Hamad "48" and Hussein "39" said :

" We saw helicopters dump big black plastic bags six days ago. After the helicopters left, the terrified farmers approached the area where the bags were dumped. They were too scared to open the bags in case they contain explosives that might kill them, but , at last they were too curious that they decided to open the bags.

In the first bag they found " a burned body" , the second bag had "a body of a female soldier with head injury and blood all over her face and hair". In the third bag there was a " soldier all covered with blood , and both his hands were missing. All of the dead bodies were for US soldiers...!!!

The farmers said that they buried those bodies at the same place where they were found . Sources commented on that story saying that US soldiers who do not belong to "The Marines" ,their families won't get $ 200,000 ,if they were killed , so they prefer to run away.

A smuggler said that he helped a soldier and his girl friend to run away . He decided not to cross the boarder at night , but they begged him and paid him double. He finally agreed and helped them cross to the Syrian boarder.

Smugglers get $5oo for each run away coalition soldier
He's happy with the "good" money he's making now for two reasons ; the first one is financial , and the second because the occupiers are leaving his country.

Say Wes you were right capitalism can work . :D

Anyways I couldnt agree more with the brother , what a wonderfull way to make money .

Anyways ive heard about stories like these , but i never read anything about it .

Do you have an article ? Also the number of suicides has went up as well , have any info on that ?

Some sort of link would be very helpful in actually taking this seriously.

unfortunately idont have alinks caus my friend translated it to me from asaudi news paper ...
he swear to me its tru caus he call his family in jordan and askinking about that

unfortunately idont have alinks caus my friend translated it to me from asaudi news paper ...
he swear to me its tru caus he call his family in jordan and askinking about that

lmao. What are you, an idiot?

Originally posted by Red Eagle
Tens of US soldiers are killed and wounded daily.

Acctualy at the moment the average is 1 a day.


Originally posted by Red Eagle
Some Iraqi farmers revealed to " Al Riyadh" correspondent some top secret and classified information .

Why does this sound unllikely from the get go?

Originally posted by Red Eagle
Hamad "48" and Hussein "39" said :

" We saw helicopters dump big black plastic bags six days ago. After the helicopters left, the terrified farmers approached the area where the bags were dumped. They were too scared to open the bags in case they contain explosives that might kill them, but , at last they were too curious that they decided to open the bags.

In the first bag they found " a burned body" , the second bag had "a body of a female soldier with head injury and blood all over her face and hair". In the third bag there was a " soldier all covered with blood , and both his hands were missing. All of the dead bodies were for US soldiers...!!!

The farmers said that they buried those bodies at the same place where they were found . Sources commented on that story saying that US soldiers who do not belong to "The Marines" ,their families won't get $ 200,000 ,if they were killed , so they prefer to run away.

This has to be the stupidest story I have ever heard. Why would they drop dead bodies out of helicopters out onto farmlands? News flash, that's not how America's Millitary treats it's dead.

Originally posted by Red Eagle
A smuggler said that he helped a soldier and his girl friend to run away . He decided not to cross the boarder at night , but they begged him and paid him double. He finally agreed and helped them cross to the Syrian boarder.

Where the fuck did he pick up a girlfriend? That guy has been busy.

WE WILL SEE IF IT IS TRU OR NOT

Learn English, and then type it with correct capitalization; that is my advice to you.

Let me ask you, if you wanted to hide american deaths, would you dump them on enemy farmland intact with their uniforms on?

If so, you are fairly stupid.

Why wouldn't they just incenerate the body, dump it in the ocean... or... better yet, use it as evidence of Iraqi violence and disorder.

IAM HALF AMERICAN MY FATHER IS AMERICAN AND MY MATHER IS FROM EGYPT BUT SHE IS CHRISTIAN ICANT SPEAK ENGLISH FLUNTLEY CUS I WAS LIVE IN EGYBT FOR 16YEARS AND MY FATHER WAS SPEAK ARABIC WITH US

Bull Shit! I want a link to this crap now!

Your father also stole your caps lock key?

Regardless, do you really think that the US would be stupid enough to do this. It would be cheaper, easier, and more secret for them to just burn the bodies. Not load them in a chopper and dump them in a field.

Then the Iraqi's decide to bury them BEFORE taking pictures? Uh huh.



And I heard Saddam dumped his WMDs in a field in Kansas... but the local farmers buried them.

Yet another person for the Ignore list.
*sigh*
You know, it'd be nice to go just one day without having to add to the damn list.
Seriously guys - just one damn day!
:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Red Eagle
IAM HALF AMERICAN MY FATHER IS AMERICAN AND MY MATHER IS FROM EGYPT BUT SHE IS CHRISTIAN ICANT SPEAK ENGLISH FLUNTLEY CUS I WAS LIVE IN EGYBT FOR 16YEARS AND MY FATHER WAS SPEAK ARABIC WITH US So what? That is no excuse for your lack of communication skills. English is my third language and I speak 5 in total.

And some citations please.

Originally posted by Jerrek
So what? That is no excuse for your lack of communication skills. English is my third language and I speak 5 in total.

And some citations please.

im not trubling my self in the past by brushing up my english language cuz ithought that ill live in egypt for my whole life..
iam talking arabic and turkish fluentley

I direct you back to my post. Does this story make any sense to you?

If so, please explain why americans would do this.

If not, admit this story is probably made up.

Originally posted by Persol
And I heard Saddam dumped his WMDs in a field in Kansas... but the local farmers buried them.

Haha, of course, it's all falling into place!

Originally posted by Persol
And I heard Saddam dumped his WMDs in a field in Kansas... but the local farmers buried them.

They buried it because they thought it would help their crops grow silly :D

Jerrek & Mystech , your Anglo-centric views are dispicable , you should be condemned to speak German and French forever .

Ghassan Kanafani,

Your Ad Hominem is pathetic, you should learn more critical reasoning.

Originally posted by Ghassan Kanafani
Jerrek & Mystech , your Anglo-centric views are dispicable , you should be condemned to speak German and French forever .
Jerrek that would speak French forever?! Wait, he will do it in hell... because that would be hell for you Jerrek, no? Oh yes, and his new nationality would be... French! Mouha ha ha....
Sorry, my dark side was taking control... (Mouha ha ha...)

OK, anyway, I don't think that this story is true... That sounds so stupid, even from US soldiers, that I would put it in the "Urban legends" category.

WCF
Ghassan Kanafani,

Your Ad Hominem is pathetic, you should learn more critical reasoning.

And this would be ?

First provide an explanation for what you call pathetic , and be a bit self-critical as well since your entire post is nothing but what you accuse me of .

ghassan, he's right. your argument skills and reasoning are very poor. more often than not, you make no sense at all when you present a counter point.


and as far as the topic goes, ....just brings a smile to my face. arab propaganda is just so damn funny:cool:

It's stories like this one that make me wonder if freepers are posting posing as arabs - totally off-the-wall stories, with no backing references or proof, and a poster that couldn't be less credible if he tried. Meanwhile, other threads lapse into the archives because the freeper posters can't prevail against their arguments.

since the fall of saddam, the # of newspapers in iraq increased from 9 to 150. the 'news' that some of those papers report are just so damn funny.

theories about iraqi supermarkets being flooded by 'zionist goods', and how iraqis should be vigilant and check every product they buy... to look on the bottom for a "jewish star". even if it says "made in malaysia" check extra few times just in case.

othedap, can we see those papers please?
Not that I don't trust every word that comes from your keyboard and Jerreks and Clockwoods or anything....

those papers are not connected to the internet.
i read it on the Jerusalem Post website a few days ago. they're a respected website.

Yes, after all, what kind of bias could an Israeli newspaper have against Iraq or it's arabic peoples?
:rolleyes:

I'll believe the reports when I see the papers.
After all, if it's that silly, won't the broadsheets in the US and Europe run the story as (at least) human interest?

Originally posted by Ghassan Kanafani
Jerrek & Mystech , your Anglo-centric views are dispicable , you should be condemned to speak German and French forever .

Anglo-Centric views? What the hell are you talking about? I already speak German, thank you very much. (Well ok 3 years in high-school, I should say I speak SOME german, hehe). How is my refuting your idiotic fabricated story anglo-centric?

Assuming that the explosion of press is true, I see no reason as to why some having made up stories would be false.

Originally posted by Persol
Assuming that the explosion of press is true, I see no reason as to why some having made up stories would be false.

Yeah, after all, it's not as though credible journalists will just magically spring into existence the very day that a larger market for news comes about. These things take time, and the Iraqi people are going to have to learn about reporting standards.

Look at America for instance, our journalism industry is massive, and it's been around for quite some time, however even after so many years of practice, refinement, and cultural feelings of responsibility on the part of most serious journalists, we still somehow ended up with Fox News. Just goes to show that respectable journalism takes a long time to master!

Hehe, perhaps learning how to bend the truth was one of those 'refinements'

Ghassan Kanafani,

I never stated an argument in this thread or any other claim, hence I have no ad Hominem :D

WellCookedFetus ,

You presented an argument as well as statement :

Statement : you should learn more critical reasoning.

Argument : Your Ad Hominem is pathetic .

:D

Mystech :
Anglo-Centric views? What the hell are you talking about? I already speak German, thank you very much. (Well ok 3 years in high-school, I should say I speak SOME german, hehe). How is my refuting your idiotic fabricated story anglo-centric?

I called your views anglo-centric not because of your refutement of the story the thread-starter unleashed , I called you anglo-centric because of the comments toward his language-skills .

The argument would be another issue , btw you only refuted the part about the helicopter . It is reasonable to consider that there are soldiers who wish to desert , perhaps have lost a pal (i mean quite a few are dying nowadays) hey they're not superman . Ive heard some stories about this as well , sure I dunno but its not fair to say they dont happen .

I think there are articles about this , however USA would obviously never admit and on the other hand Arabs make propaganda as well .

Hey doesnt the same go with that suicide issue ? Or is that validated ?

we still somehow ended up with Fox News. Just goes to show that respectable journalism takes a long time to master!

Foxnews amazes me , rather the opinion about foxnews amazes me .

Ã?nyways its not a question of mastering hournalism in USA , but a question of dividing between bias , and one partical cause gets an "all good" overal .

Anyways moving on to the funny-section :

otheadp

your argument skills and reasoning are very poor. more often than not, you make no sense at all when you present a counter point.

You know we should have one of them -stop killing me Im dead already- smileys http://www.thetrukstop.com/truksludge/emoticons/lmao.gif for comments of the week like this one , and we should have idiot awards as well .

dude , u should really stop making yourself look like a dick .

really your an embarisment to yourself . :(

mr ... but "we evolved over the years" , and "arabs got whiter in america" and "but they wear scarfs they're not christian" remarks and you even dare to question my argument skills and reasoning LMAO

Go sit in the corner and bow down with that ass up in the air u damn unbeliever , lol .

keep 'em coming you're great

arab propaganda is just so damn funny

Im sure you were talking about thye newspaper and not Iran , but to be sure I though Id remind you Iran isnt Arab .

theories about iraqi supermarkets being flooded by 'zionist goods', and how iraqis should be vigilant and check every product they buy... to look on the bottom for a "jewish star". even if it says "made in malaysia" check extra few times just in case.

You can laugh all you want but its only logical and natural for zionist products to flood the stores as they are the ones who are there now "rebuilding" the economic sectors . They are in charge so their products are the ones who get priority , DUH . You know how many countries cant wait to get in but arent allowed because the USA divides the shit to whom they please ?

I understand how you want to ridicule everything into being Arab propaganda , and although their conspiracy-fear might be very funny now and then , not always is everything bullshit just because it involves zionists .

i read it on the Jerusalem Post website a few days ago. they're a respected website.

respected by who ? lol

freepers are posting posing as arabs

woooooohoooooohooooooo
waaaaaahaaaaaahaaaaaaa
weeeeeeheeeeeeheeeeeee

Sparkey-boy is so amazed by the Arabs , he simply doesnt believe this could be them .

Anyways Sparkey-boy , the one you question in here (I assume) sais to be semi-American (who'se daddyo is in Iraq) and semi-Egyptian Christian so ...........

On the other hand ...... since you really dont care much for individual points and call everybody "freepers" ......

It really doesnt matter now does it ? Psst : Go see Q he knows all about the Arab-Muslim conspiracy .

Mystech, would you mind not holding up the US media as an example of good journalism? It's upsetting my stomach slightly, and I can only imagine the fits it is putting real journalists through...

Ghassan Kanafani,

"You should learn more critical reasoning." is not a premise its a conclusion, two of which makes a statement or advice. If I had said: "You are attacking others with a ill choice of words, you should learn more critical reasoning" that has premise and conclusion. If you reverse your analyses results then I would be making a red haring fallacy in that now I have diverted the issue on to how you make fallacies. I don’t have a argument or statement at this time to the threads issue... I just been spending my time trying to correct you.

Well; for my part I wish we had all been more `Anglo-centric' in 1940, that way the rest of you would ALL be speaking German.

Originally posted by Ghassan Kanafani
Jerrek & Mystech , your Anglo-centric views are dispicable , you should be condemned to speak German and French forever .

You were more anglo centric in 1940, you helped us.

PHNX
Well; for my part I wish we had all been more `Anglo-centric' in 1940, that way the rest of you would ALL be speaking German.


Not me Im not European
:)

And I already speak German , lol .

:confused:

guthrie
You were more anglo centric in 1940, you helped us.

Yes , allofasudden half of Europe wasnt considered European enought to be worth helping .

WellCookedFetus :

You should learn more critical reasoning." is not a premise its a conclusion

I do not claim otherwise . I said it was a statement and the other part was its argument , you may translate statement to conclusion excuse me if I was not clear enough I assumed the other to be the argument would be enough .

Just because I wrote it first doesnt make it a premis : :D


Statement=conclusion : you should learn more critical reasoning.
Argument=premis : Your Ad Hominem is pathetic .

IF ad hominem pathetic > learn more critical reasoning .

If you reverse your analyses results then I would be making a red haring fallacy in that now I have diverted the issue on to how you make fallacies.

Wich I do not , my argument is exactly as is in your post .

I donÂ’t have a argument or statement at this time to the threads issue... I just been spending my time trying to correct you

Idem dito

Originally posted by EI_Sparks
Mystech, would you mind not holding up the US media as an example of good journalism? It's upsetting my stomach slightly, and I can only imagine the fits it is putting real journalists through...

Well it's got British journalism beat hands down, I can say that much. Is there even any real journalism left in the UK? Even the BBC is getting pretty editorialized.

Originally posted by Ghassan Kanafani
I called your views anglo-centric not because of your refutement of the story the thread-starter unleashed , I called you anglo-centric because of the comments toward his language-skills .


So because I give someone a jab about poor language skills that makes me some sort of raceist? Does the same thing apply when I constantly correct others around me about the correct use of who/whom? I just don't get it.

Mystech
So because I give someone a jab about poor language skills that makes me some sort of raceist? Does the same thing apply when I constantly correct others around me about the correct use of who/whom? I just don't get it.

* nobody said anything about racism
* I dont know where around you us , but probably you mean as in your every day life wich I assume is in a country that is of English tongue . There obviously your corrections wouldnt be anglo-centric as you are in the middle of that centre , their relevancy however and value could be debated about but that wasnt my point . The point was that here you are not in the middle of some Anglo-environment but an international one . And from that perspective I find it highly anglo-centric to point out others incapabilities that most probably are simply based because they dont live next door to you .

Obviously the person wasnt of native English tongue , and IMO it only should be celebrated another takes efford to try and express himself in a language that ISNT his but yours in ordr to communicate with you , rather than put him down because of reasons of coincidence and natural division .

Same goes for that silly comment of yours on Ethics-section .

Originally posted by Ghassan Kanafani
There obviously your corrections wouldnt be anglo-centric as you are in the middle of that centre , their relevancy however and value could be debated about but that wasnt my point . [/B]

Downtown Tempe ain't exactly anglo-saxon central either, Chiko, but we speak English here, yes. If you hadn't noticed the same thing goes for these sciforums, generaly if you want to be able to express your ideas in a clear and intelligent manner, a strong grasp on English is a must.

Originally posted by Ghassan Kanafani The point was that here you are not in the middle of some Anglo-environment but an international one . [/B]

Do you have any idea what you're talking about? Do you understand who the anglo saxons are?

Ghassan Kanafani

Again my argument against you is not ad hominem because I did not claim you were wrong on the subject only that you used a fallacy, which happen to be the truth, though a divergence from the issue.

Of what fallacy is Ghassan Kanafani accused over and above that of bastardising his namesake?

Deepuz get over yourself .

WellCookedFetus :

You are right

However there is still no logic in what you said .

The ad hominem made by me does not result in a lack of critical thinking , one does not logical deduct from the other .

Mystech :

If you hadn't noticed the same thing goes for these sciforums, generaly if you want to be able to express your ideas in a clear and intelligent manner, a strong grasp on English is a must.

I understand that very well , however your attitude toward attempt to do so is rather anglo-centric , as it doesnt considers the possibility we are no all "lucky" to be somewhere where english is the first language so that this entire subject isnt any longer in questioning .

Do you understand who the anglo saxons are?

Please lets not go there ok ? Your patronizing has little to do with history of the anglo-saxons .

Address who you are representing or renounce the spud.
You cannot live under the quilt when the heat is rising.

Dogs bark but the caravan moves on.

:)

dude this sounds fake. i think people in the USA would have already heard of it. :bugeye: