Is Adam Sandler still doing Opera Man? Anyway, Tony Blair is going down: The first "friendly"-fire casualty of the Great Bushwhack. Watch your backs, Brits. They seemed like such chums, but W wants this war right now: No time to slow down for "man's best friend".

And - for the sake of discussion - what if President Bush and PM Blair are right (which means you and many others are VERY wrong)? Which side would you choose then? If you were THERE now would you have been thrown in jail for expressing an opinion? Which way of life do you REALLY want to prevail?

Let's start threading solutions and not gloat over politics. Do you think the next leader will really be that different? Wake up, Jackson. Money talks and the common man does not hear such conversations.

I'm not gloating. I'm regretting an early victim of this war who was loyal to America. So often any dissent for the war is cast as an affirmation of Saddam's tyrrany, or cast any way that might seem the easiest way to sling mud on it. Our differences are not about Saddam- they are about the methods of taking him out without wrecking the whole region. Money does talk, and we need to be more responsible with it.

I personally do not regret any “early” casualties political or otherwise for driving fanatically and unilaterally a war upon all men while violating international laws. Blair will go down and Bush will follow, perhaps before a war or perhaps soon thereafter. I think it is about time that people are beginning to pay the price of double-standards for the sake of suffering nations on earth.
We are in this predicament by irresponsibly supporting and letting a fanatic capitalized on human tragedy. The will of nations will survive, and the abuse of power will degrade.

In a tribute to the old addage "They never learn" they "Allegedly" already have US and UK special forces in Iraq (Thats an open secret) trying to gain support from Local millitias (Until i get a factual source thats speculative).
How many times are they going to shoot themselves in the foot with this crap before they realise it causes more problems than it solves (If you can even call it solving)

oh btw hypewaders...tony blair isnt gone yet, and im sure he wont be gone untill the next election, meaning the u.s and the uk will still have their war whatever happens.

and whats the italian guy called, i forgot....they think he will go down with bush and blair aswell.....i dont think so!

war will happen weather we like it or not, i guess we all have to get used to it, if our governments dont listen to us who will?
the word government has little meaning now, here in britain any way.....they are so divided about the situation it defeats the whole object of having one all together!

The problem is when tony goes what then.
We need a serious sollution to the political mess here and around the world.
Current political parties, certainly the mainstream in the UK are all a sick joke.
If even a few of the people on here were to form a serious party to uphold some of the values they put out on these forums they would win easily, seriously there is no reasonable alternative at the moment as far as i can see that will truly uphold the voice and opinions of the people.

i think if the people like blair, putin, kim, bush and so on read forums and sites like these and took note, there might be less problems.

we should make a party! no seriously!

So am I ^_^
I know there are a lot of people on here with the intelegence and wisdom to pull it off and get a lot of support.
I think it really is up for grabs.

I know its more complicated than that but if the will is there...

exactly....not a badly paid job once you get there either ;)

er...i kinda figure thats one of the problems with our society though.
All the "high ups" are constantly saying "Theres not enough money" then taking multi-million pound bonuses and holidays on expenses.

i know i was just joking.

i wouldnt have the time to make a new political party anyway, and the added draw back that i dont normaly know what im talking about half the time.....i remind myself of blair a bit in a way!

Rofl at least blair can almost pull of the "I honestly belive this war is for good bit" convincingly...i almost belived he was that naive for a few days (Which is just as bad) but more importantly he clearly has SOME intellegence at least even if his actions are wrong.

Watchin GWB is just plain painful...really...I still for the love of me know how anyone can sit by and watch such an Idiot sit in power and not want to cry.

he looks like a teddy bear, little close beady eyes, i wouldnt trust that man if my life depended on it....hang on, my life does depend on it doesnt it!

grrr, fuking idiot!

You US then?
Hows it over there, i only get what i hear on the news feeds but it sounds like a mess over there econmically and otherwise man.
I got a good friend out there who's just had a baby son and gotten married.
Shes so happy its unbelivable.
Every letter i get from here even i am glowing by the time i end reading it lol, im really happy for her but it makes me all the more worried about the shit thats happening over there especially what hes trying to do to the education system and the rest of the mess over there.

im uk...but do you think you are still safe?...he may as well be our president as well seing as everything he does brtain follow!

oh btw....i was living there since about 6 months ago when my family wanted me home!

Not suprised.
Yeah it seems like a parody of Mary and her lamb huh ^_^.

But at least here the media isn't AS bad as the US and we aren't so isolationist so many more of us seem to know whats going on beyond the Propoganda.

Also Tony is better at pulling of the "Innocently Ignorant of what he's doing" routine so theres always the hope when Iraq goes to hell he will have the sense to turn around (Though he will already be finished) before throwing himself and us further into the abyss than he already has.

If this does go as badly as many think, Revolution is the only way forward, no joke, if the governments bring instability to the world in our name and take on crimes in our name and ignore us, what else is there to do.

A better evolved and re-vamped political system might help: I'll explain:

In the US, there's no room for opposition, that's because you have another system of political organisation.

The US treat the world like they won the elections,.....thus > they think they are the masters,....and can order everybody around.

It's became a selfcentered society,.....


On the other side, there's Europe, for example: who have a system where there's at least room for opposition, or to create opposition. You CAN start your own party if you want.
In this way: if a program of a party has lack of points on the environment for example: another party can stress this point from the opposed side, effectively putting goverment under pressure and this has a good leverage on this system,...

altough it could be better ofcourse: every system is succeptible for improvement,.....but I say it's a lot better then :

> THAT |@#''|) DEMAGOGHE BUSH they have over there.

Ye the 2 party system is archaic and doesn't work.
Unfortunatly in the UK there is room for oposition but no viable party is here to fill that gap.
Thats why i am not joking that if enough people here started a party...with the money *sighs* the government in the UK is up for grabs.