So I made it.

A year and a half ago I came here. So many posts! So many fights! All those dirty words, they make us look so dumb.

So many posts. So many thoughts. Some good, some bad. Some marvelous, some defeatist.

So many people. So many.

But it is time for me to go now.
I thank you all for your company. It has been good, very good.
I wish you all the best in your lives.
I hope I will find a kind place in your memory, those who will remember.



Water must go the river.


Me, my thoughts are flower strewn
Ocean storm, bayberry moon.
I have got to leave to find my way.
Watch the road and memorize
This life that pass before my eyes.
Nothing is going my way.

The ocean is the river's goal,
A need to leave the water knows
We're closer now than light years to go.

I have got to find the river,
Bergamot and vetiver
Run through my head and fall away.
Leave the road and memorize
This life that pass before my eyes.
Nothing is going my way.

There's no one left to take the lead,
But I tell you and you can see
We're closer now than light years to go.
Pick up here and chase the ride.
The river empties to the tide.
Fall into the ocean.

The river to the ocean goes,
A fortune for the undertow.
None of this is going my way.
There is nothing left to throw
Of ginger, lemon, indigo,
Coriander stem and rose of hay.
Strength and courage overrides
The privileged and weary eyes
Of river poet search naivete.
Pick up here and chase the ride.
The river empties to the tide.
All of this is coming your way

Come back when you can, water. I hope you do. Sincerely. You know who. :confused:

water,

I have contacted you by PM. Right now, I can't see any good reason to ban you, but we can discuss this.

I might be out of the loop, but you want to go out in a blaze of glory?...Banned and whatnot?

water:
But it is time for me to go now.
why?
wherever you go you will still have access to the internet?
why do you want to be banned?
I didn't post here for a good 6-7 months then popped back.

But... but... we'll miss you! Oh don't go, there's plenty of fun to have still.

water:

why?
wherever you go you will still have access to the internet?
why do you want to be banned?
I didn't post here for a good 6-7 months then popped back.

Why I want to leave?
Most of all, water has become a shell, too tight for me. I've outgrown it, and I don't want to have anything to do with it.
My satyr is dead, and the pink girlie is poof as well.

Also, I have a new work schedule which will leave me little spare time.

I have been thinking about leaving for quite some time now, but I wasn't sure how to do it. I have to burn all the bridges behind me, or I will still be able to return, back to that shell. Which I don't want to.

As I was writing that good-bye post this early morning, I cried. I wasn't sad, I was just moved.

I hope I will be missed, at least a little!

water, it's just a forum.
There's no need to burn any bridges, or to be banned permanently, you just dont log on when you don't want to, and later on down the line you can drop by whenever the mood takes you.
I myself have just recently returned after many months.

it really is that simple. :)

PS sattie is dead??? did he get banned?

What a drama queen.

Of course, it is just a forum. But it has played an important role in my mind's life and so I have a special attachment to this forum. My wanting to leave the forums is symbolic for some other things that are happening in my life now. Dizzy girl I am, after all.
But I realized that leaving the forums per ban isn't the best thing to do after all.

I asked James for a cancellation of the ban request.
I will be away for some time though, or posting only scarcely.

So take care ya'll.

Be careful water. Not everyone in the real world is as intelligent as we forumites are, being mere figments of your imagination. Shield your brain with a dunce cap at all times.

:)

will you still show up at 'The Science Forum' Water?

or are you done with all forums?

water sings -"But I tell you and you can see
We're closer now than light years to go."

I want to believe you.

Also,
don't say good-bye,
just say farewell...

Why I want to leave?
Most of all, water has become a shell, too tight for me. I've outgrown it, and I don't want to have anything to do with it.
My satyr is dead, and the pink girlie is poof as well.

Also, I have a new work schedule which will leave me little spare time.

I have been thinking about leaving for quite some time now, but I wasn't sure how to do it. I have to burn all the bridges behind me, or I will still be able to return, back to that shell. Which I don't want to.

As I was writing that good-bye post this early morning, I cried. I wasn't sad, I was just moved.

I hope I will be missed, at least a little!

I'll miss you Water! It's been a pleasure discussing with you. I wish more people out here were like you. Take care and God bless. *smooch*

bye water see ya osem other time
* i have ot destroy this thread*
i want a smooch!!!!!!!! can i ahvwe a smooch?

cole grey,


I want to believe you.

What is stopping you?
My heart, or yours?


Also,
don't say good-bye,
just say farewell...

I came back for a little, over the weekend.


* * *


Lori_7,


I'll miss you Water! It's been a pleasure discussing with you. I wish more people out here were like you. Take care and God bless. *smooch*

Thank you!
*hugs Lori*


* * *


riku_124,


i want a smooch!!!!!!!! can i ahvwe a smooch?

*smooooooooooooooch*

Happy now?


* * *


Fromthedarksea,


Oh. I just bumped into her. In the Philosophy alcove. She was thinking. About monsters and vanity.

We've met before. In a thread where I suggested you start a thread on what you were just saying. I actually think it was a thread by riku, and you wondered whether to hijack his thread, right there, on the spot. You only had a few posts at that time. And Crunchy Cat was also posting there.

Never mess with a woman's memory.

P.S.
There you go, found it: http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=824295#post824295

will you still show up at 'The Science Forum' Water?
I swear to god, you have the most disturbing user name.
Anyway, take care, Wasser. Auf Wiedersehen.

Goodbye Water, hope to see you around from time to time.

She never left. I have yet to see someone start a "goodbye" thread and actually leave.

bebelina.

I swear to god, you have the most disturbing user name.
Anyway, take care, Wasser. Auf Wiedersehen.
Don't knock the Ol' "buttbeads" till you've tried 'em Happie :D

She never left. I have yet to see someone start a "goodbye" thread and actually leave.

I said I will leave or be posting scarcely.
I'm here for the weekend because it's been raining all day, and yesterday.

cole grey,
What is stopping you?
My heart, or yours?

I was thinking you were talking about the same issue I was talking about in "to the farthest star", and I want to believe we are closer to the truth than "the hundreds of millions of light years away", that I put forth in that.

My heart is stopping me, but it doesn't stop me from believing that you are closer to the truth than light years away.

Maybe you were talking about something else in your "song".

It was good meeting you, stop by anytime some of your posts are very good and I enjoy reading them. :p

I was thinking you were talking about the same issue I was talking about in "to the farthest star", and I want to believe we are closer to the truth than "the hundreds of millions of light years away", that I put forth in that.

My heart is stopping me, but it doesn't stop me from believing that you are closer to the truth than light years away.

Maybe you were talking about something else in your "song".

Oh, shoot. Didn't you recognize the song? it's REM's Find the river. That was my title as well, for a while. (I was also a Nurse Betty Wannabe, the best title I can imagine.)

I'm not as creative as you.

:( :( :(

Perfect proof that if water had judgement it'd be just as fluid.

So you in or you out?

At any rate, like, don't go cuase like you've got like, keen insight and stuff when not wasting it on needy, socialized martyrs or Christianity.

at least she's not a coward.
you have unfinished business dank.

at least she's not a coward.
you have unfinished business dank..

Spoken like a true nigger.
'Fun' is not 'business', run along and tell your massa that.

what massa wud that be yer ladyship?
sattie?
LOL.
Don't flatter him, besides he's got a hard on for yo' boi.

now come play wit yo' nigga...

Don't flatter him, besides he's got a hard on for yo' boi.

Really?

That's twice now, Snoop Dawg.

so where's my heat rash bitch?

s'up shorty? tired?

Not at all.
You will to the end of your days have your belly rubbed like I'm doing now.
And you will to the end of your days have me jump when you say jump like the needy wench I am in your book.

How's that for a heat rash, Mr. Kentai?

Mr. Kentai?
heh, no wait i'm a coolie, or is I black, arab perhaps? hmmm maybe even jewish?
no matter, like I said, I am anything you want me to be, and right now it seems chica has a cravin' fo' black.

right now I gots a burnin' in ma loins....how 'bout rubbin a li'll further south of my belly sweetie.

See there's a battle of wits between myself and Mephurio (who knows where you live and is watching you right now)

Poodle fur.
Yay or nay?

So you in or you out?

In for the weekend.


At any rate, like, don't go cuase like you've got like, keen insight and stuff when not wasting it on needy, socialized martyrs or Christianity.

If you want to tell me something or if you want something from me, say so.
I can't read your mind.

See there's a battle of wits between myself and Mephurio (who knows where you live and is watching you right now)

Poodle fur.
Yay or nay?

short battle. He's no match for you.
he knows where I am? get him to put his loot where his gob is and post it.
what's the matter the gimp can't speak for himself?

yay or nay what?? :eek:

Oh, and in case it wasn't noticed -- "To the end" is a song by Blur ...
It fits much with much of the atmosphere here.

Hmm.
I'll have to say nay.
nay what exactly?

why to the question asked, of course!

nay what exactly?

Logic according to Gendanken:

http://home.uchicago.edu/~janie/escher/EscherBoxbrown.jpg

There she is, our very own Lady of Shalott.

http://itsa.ucsf.edu/~snlrc/encyclopaedia_romana/britannia/saxonadvent/waterhouse.jpg

This picture reminds me of you, Gendanken.

"I am half sick of shadows," said
The Lady of Shalott.

Are you?


* * *
Good night now.

why to the question asked, of course!
and what question would that be?

Never mess with a woman's memory...

Any woman who knows the capabilities of her brain will be all jiggly about the perfect memory she has.


wasn't that la gendanken who first pitched that against various wanderers or other? Anyway, as the thread demonstrates, I first used "hijack" in a totally different context. Granted, I was still very spacey then, but you took my word (hi-jack) and twisted it, whereby I reclaimed it and threw it back at your condescending face. Obviously you disapproved of my reasoning, so you told me to disappear, right there on the spot —

Please. You are being unkind. I was fascinated by the way you think, and I wanted to see more of it.


And, as if you were hosting that thread too. The gall.

Must I write in pink so that you will understand I mean no harm?

http://www.pressed-flower.com/artist/ann-warwick/heart%20pressed%20flower%20card%204.jpg

Okay now?

Now get yourself together or you will leave a not so favourable impression. Your resentment against me is completely unbased, and, frankly, silly.

This picture reminds me of you, Gendanken.



The hair is the right length more or less, but other than that, waaaay off.

Outlandish:
Its all out there to be seen. Just go look man.

yay i got a smooch!!!

That's right, Outlandish.
My life my love my everything wihtout whom I am lithium and whaterelsethefuckyousaid.


Yay or nay to the question of course!
We know you.

Water:
This picture reminds me of you, Gendanken.

"I am half sick of shadows," said
The Lady of Shalott.

Are you?

That picture should remind you of me only in so far that she makes Romance look constipated.

Does that boat not resmemble a crapper with Lady Shallot on it with her face like that?
You should be addressing this to those like Fromdarksea up there.

Mephura:
Nay on the poodle.

Ah. Read Tennyson's poem.

Yeah.. I have kinda come ot that conclusion myself.

gend:
We know you
you don't know jack shit.

nothing.

Mephura:
Nay on the poodle.

LOL.
you sap gendanken.
you fucking sap.

you don't know the ID of poodle?

bunch of fucking amateurs.

you don't know jack shit.

nothing.
I know what color the cum on your keyboard is right now.
I know what room you are sitting in.
I know what color the rag you call shirt is right now as well.

I know it all.

bunch of fucking amateurs.
I would be now, wouldn't I?

I'm not like you motherfuckers with a million aliases.
Gendanken is One.

Now run along- this thread is beyond the inane.

-Gendanken

LOL i'm soooo slow.
look at the kids, switching to stealth mode so nobody can see them, messaging away like fucking saps.

I know what color the cum on your keyboard is right now.
I know what room you are sitting in.
I know what color the rag you call shirt is right now as well.

I know it all.


I would be now, wouldn't I?

I'm not like you motherfuckers with a million aliases.
Gendanken is One.

Now run along- this thread is beyond the inane.

-Gendanken

I know what color the cum on your keyboard is right now.
I know what room you are sitting in.
I know what color the rag you call shirt is right now as well.

I know it all.


fuuuu-huk offfffff child.

gend, I have no sockpuppets.

I am not spookz.

you're providing me with pricless entertainment though.

priceless.

and you know what...it's staring you in the fucking face yet you're after a comlpetely different it

gend:

hun this obsession with me is unhealthy.

But if you really wanted to know all you had to do was ask

vertie:
Was I right?
I cannot confirm or deny.

Yeah.. I have kinda come ot that conclusion myself.

untermensch.

you can't even have a wank without her permission.

As for the "internal affairs" going on here, the perfect song by Blur:


All those dirty words (jusqu’a la fin)
They make us look so dumb (en plein soleil)
We’ve been drinking far too much (jusqu’a la fin)
And neither of us mean what we say (en plein amour)

Well you and I
Collapsed in love
And it looks like we might have made it
Yes, it looks like we’ve made it to the end

What happened to us? (jusqu’a la fin)
Soon it will be gone forever (en plein soleil)
Infatuated only with ourselves (jusqu’a la fin)
And neither of us can think straight anymore. (en plein amour)

Well you and I
Collapsed in love
And it looks like we might have made it,
Yes, it looks like we’ve made it to the end
When you and I
Collapsed in love
Well, it looks like we might have made it
Yes, it looks like we’ve made it to the end.

(en plein amour)
You and I
Just collapsed in love
And it looks like we might have made it
Yes, it looks like we’ve made it to the end

(en plein soleil)
(en plein soleil)

outlandish - bebelina has been posting.

water - are you still here?

water - are you still here?

A little. I can't just leave you to die without me!

So, this goodbye thread was little more than a cry for attention? How sad.

Uh, Q, I'm about to drown in your overwhelming love.

Grrrr (http://www.laserwireless.net/Diagrams/Dog Growl V2.mp3). I read this whole thread, and now I just want to tear the guts out of something and eat it while it watches me gnaw the life out of it. Grrrrr. That or get a stomach pump. :mad:

I agree.

No poodle fur for me.

Black-hearted.

I look inside myself and see my heart is black
I see my red door and it has been painted black
Maybe then I’ll fade away and not have to face the facts
It’s not easy facin’ up when your whole world is black


Cole Grey, you inspire me so. Even though you are so devoted to smithing your blackness.


My love will laugh with me before the mornin’ comes

I know someday you'll have a beautiful life, I know you'll be a sun
In somebody else's sky, but why
why,
why
can't it be

mine

My gag reflex kicks in.
Oh why, Oh why,
Does my bile rise at the sight of such...
Morbidly self indulgent tripe?

Please, just let the water wash away
The fetid stench of humans wallowing in
Philosophical self delusion.

I know someday you'll have a beautiful life, I know you'll be a sun
In somebody else's sky, but why
why,
why
can't it be

mine
so vassal, tired playing sherlock? tired of foraging around for clues?

??

I didn't realize I was.
Was I supposed to be?
I'm sorry....
Inform me next time.

??

I didn't realize I was.
Was I supposed to be?
I'm sorry....
Inform me next time.

I love the way a feline would feign innocence with bloody feathers in its jowels.

so vassal, tired playing sherlock? tired of foraging around for clues?
What's it to you, dear ?

There is a clue staring right at you as you sit there with your mouth open and you can't even see it.
Macquarena.

Sad, isn't it?
I do so hate it when people expect you to give them all the answers.
Hell, they don't even have to look hard.
It's all right here in this thread...

Tidal waves don't beg forgiveness
Crashed and on their way
Father he enjoyed collisions; others walked away
A snowflake falls in may.
And the doors are open now as the bells are ringing out
Cause the man of the hour is taking his final bow
Goodbye for now.

Nature has its own religion; gospel from the land
Father ruled by long division, young men they pretend
Old men comprehend.

And the sky breaks at dawn; shedding light upon this town
They'll all come around
Cause the man of the hour is taking his final bow
G'bye for now.

And the road
The old man paved
The broken seams along the way
The rusted signs, left just for me
He was guiding me, love, his own way
Now the man of the hour is taking his final bow
As the curtain comes down
I feel that this is just g'bye for now

This is just... it's too sad... I just... can't...

http://www.oldmencrying.com/images/bertuzzi-crying.jpeg

*sniff* I'll see you all... in the great... *sniff* beyond... *sniff* My final... bow... good bye cruel world. Wahhhhhh!!!! :(

Mephura,


Maybe the two of you weren't meant to belong together, but you are still alive.
Just don't fall into this:


Oh my baby baby I love you more than I can tell
I don’t think I can live without you
And I know that I never will
Oh my baby baby I want you so it scares me to death
I can’t say anymore than I love you
Everything else is a waste of breath

I want you
You’ve had your fun you don’t get well no more
I want you
Your fingernails go dragging down the wall
Be careful darling you might fall

I want you
I woke up and one of us was crying
I want you
You said young man I do believe you’re dying
I want you
If you need a second opinion as you seem to do these days
You can look in my eyes and you can count the ways
I want you
Did you mean to tell me but seem to forget
I want you
Since when were you so generous and inarticulate
I want you
It’s the stupid details that my heart is breaking for
It’s the way your shoulders shake and what they’re shaking for
It’s knowing that he knows you now after only guessing
I want you
It’s the thought of him undressing you or you undressing
I want you
He tossed some tatty compliment your way
I want you
And you were fool enough to love it when he said


I want you
I want you

The truth can’t hurt you it’s just like the dark
It scares you witless
But in time you see things clear and stark

I want you
Go on and hurt me then we’ll let it drop
I want you
I’m afraid I won’t know where to stop
I want you
I’m not ashamed to say I cried for you
I want you
I want to know the things you did that we do too
I want you
I want to hear he pleases you more than I do
I want you
I might as well be useless for all it means to you
I want you
Did you call his name out as he held you down
I want you
Oh no my darling not with that clown

I want you
You’ve had your fun you don’t get well no more
I want you
No-one who wants you could want you more
I want you
Every night when I go off to bed and when I wake up
I want you
I want you

I’m going to say it once again ’til I instill it
I know I’m going to feel this way until you kill it
I want you
I want you

Ah, shit.

Fuck allusions, illusions, po-mo, indirectness, insecurity and wasting time.

Lonely child, when will you see, you need to be free.

Chill.

Chill.

And the reward for the most estupido remark goes to .... Stretched!

Handing the trophy over, water?

Handing the trophy over, water?

Yes, from your hands into his.

Mephura,


Maybe the two of you weren't meant to belong together, but you are still alive.
Just don't fall into this:




Water, what ever are you talking about?
That wasn't about who you thought it was about...
That much, I'm sure of.

Yes, from your hands into his.

Of course, as a contestant and reigning champion, you cannot decide such things.

I love the way a feline would feign innocence with bloody feathers in its jowels.


What's it to you, dear ?

There is a clue staring right at you as you sit there with your mouth open and you can't even see it.
Macquarena.

I'm not the one seeking clues baby, hence the only thing staring me in the face is watching you and your mutt chasing sticks in the park.
Be sure to scoop his poop after he's finished dear.

Oh baby I need you I want you Oh baby baby
Oh baby so bad it hurts
All I know is I love you so much it makes me barf
You are my enema, my castor oil
You empty me my love
My bowels are in turmoil for you
You make my bile rise
I need you oh baby oh baby
I want you
I want you to
I want you to make me sneeze
So I can empty my self some more
For you my love
My baby oh baby
I want you

Chill
Chill out
Hang on
You can do it
You are strong
Calm down
Zone out
Take a chill pill
Settle down bucko
Stay tight
Stay sharp
Stay frosty
Be cool
Coolio
Focus
Don't lose it
Be one with the force

SUPERLUMINAL,

Your comments belie someone who needs another person to be around in order to have an argument. Not that you need an argument, mind you. Read the sentence again if you don't understand what I mean.
I mean,
a real bore.

How can it be so hard to ...
Open your eyes,
Open your eyes,
It's all in your mind,
It's all in your mind.

Quote w:
"And the reward for the most estupido remark goes to .... Stretched!"

* Thank god for relativism. :D

(Q),


You told me several times that you think me stupid and irrational, yet you keep following me around.
Either you are really stupid and resentful, or you are a little schoolboy who has a crush on a girl but knows no other way of telling her that he likes her, other than calling her names.

Poor you. I dare you to PM me.


* * *

superluminal,


You are missing the point. Ever heard of Elvis Costello?


* * *


stretched,


Go screw some Barbie dolls.

Are you still here?

So, if the purpose of this thread was not a cry for attention, what was it?

Perhaps to introduce the "slipping into the oblivion"?

Though, It's hard man, truly hard - when you are constantly adressed.
Cuz' were like prisoners to external influences and shit.

Anyhoo.. IMMA FUCKIN' SLIT MY WRISTS! I'M SERIOSO!

please stop me.. I don't wanna die..

Perfect,


Total misfire.
Detachment is not a philosophical game.


* * *


Q,


Maybe one day you will get over your being proud not to care.

Detachment is not a philosophical game.


it can be..

Maybe one day you will get over your being proud not to care.

Maybe one day you'll actually do what you say you'll do.

Sad, isn't it?
I do so hate it when people expect you to give them all the answers.
Hell, they don't even have to look hard.
It's all right here in this thread...
Like, flips hair, totally.

Wath this:
I'm not the one seeking clues baby, hence the only thing staring me in the face is watching you and your mutt chasing sticks in the park.
Be sure to scoop his poop after he's finished dear.
I know more than you think I do you little guttersnipe.
Wassamatta, don't think I'm healthy enough to make you my obsession?
I can't hook wtih a moderator, get your number, compare it to some other sumabitch-I-knew-once that smelled just like you?


Adn then from there, run a hack prog, No, no....go to google, press groups and find you by luck?
All you need is a name, motherfucker.

And then depending on how philosophically sound and healthy I am, I will choose to call you on the phone to just to call you a nigger.
You know, like your massa.
Or do you not know what I'm talking about, you furry little genius you.

Like, boo.

Water:

You like apples?

i like em, pumpkin

No, you like Purina and Alpo.

Hello Spookz.

Cole,

The sun burns,
laughing sadly
at the position
of the three.

Your possibilities
file the loose gravel
under your feet.

We rise to a fluted column,
never to wash
never to rest
always whirling, twirling,
theoretical wobbling.

Water,

Missing the point? I have no fucking idea what's going on here. It just seems a nice opportunity to fuck with people.

It just seems a nice opportunity to fuck with people.
You call that fucking?

Give 'em what they want. Should I poke at you or you me? Or should I start a cootie contest between you and Water?
Or should I play the scorned hag at you trying to woo Cole Grey from my clutches?

Cooties. Ewwww...

Or should I play the scorned hag at you trying to woo Cole Grey from my clutches?

WTF? CG's a dipshit, and a male. I'm not stupid or gay. How about if I just keep dropping random bullshit into this thread of inane, self serving horse piss?

Quote w:
"Go screw some Barbie dolls."

* You know that aint no way to speak to a gentleman... mi amor.

superluminal,

Comfort with ambiguities is a mark of maturity.

Someday my mind will grow up, and maybe you will too.
Then the gravel will be sand softly, warmly, shifting under our feet.
I will see you there...

superluminal,

watch your mouth or you might snap a tooth <-- an old slovenian aphorism


Also, Gendanken- if I hadn't burned all my pleasure sensors to a crisp, I would give you a proper response.

EDIT-
superluminal said -"How about if I just keep dropping random bullshit into this thread of inane, self serving horse piss? "

At least you know what YOU are doing.

EDIT- Also, your icon shows your animal fears are in control of your mind...

Dear Gendanken,
I am in love with you. You are the most fascinating creature I have ever come across. Your attention, positive or negative (usually, no, wait, always negative) drives me nuts. It really hurts to see you here in this thread, and being so boring.This is three people stroking eachothers' egos.

I've never seen such a clit fondling fest. Please do something that doesn't disappoint my infatuation so.

roman

at least nobody is asking for a faux marraige proposal - you should count your blessings, especially if you are going to fart at the cocktail party.

edit - "clit-fondling fest" - nice image

Yeah, these chicks are fucking rubbing hardcore. It'd be attractive... if it was something new or novel or... well, attractive.

Mephura,


Detachment is not a philosophical game.

it can be..

Then it also has the value of a mere philosophical game.


* * *


(Q),


I hope your rules and wisdom choke you.



* * *


gendanken,



You like apples?

No. Bears.

* * *


Superluminal,


Missing the point? I have no fucking idea what's going on here.

As usual.


It just seems a nice opportunity to fuck with people.

You wish.

Stretched,


You are not a gentleman.



* * *


Cole Grey,


What was so wrong with that faux marriage proposal?

water,

nothing was wrong with it, but to someone who thought this thread was too friendly, there would be something wrong with it. That is where my mention of that other thread came from.

Imagine a place where the obscenities flow like wine, and every other word is "no". Then imagine a person saying this is too chummy, every word should be no, and the obscenities should be the only atmosphere. That is what I was reacting to.

P.S. didn't you notice my conspiratorial nod to you in the post before that one?

I hope your rules and wisdom choke you.

Typical theist, always wishing the best for others.

Mephura,

Then it also has the value of a mere philosophical game.

Any value is better than none, even if that value is only that of a game. Wouldn't you agree?

I don't want to feel this way
I don't want to say I'm just a friend
I don't want to wait around here
'Cos you don't want to feel no pain again
We just lie about it
As we become shadows of ourselves

I don't want to look away
I don't want to be the one denied
It ain't no fault of mine
Someone, somewhere told you lies
But we don't talk about it
We just become shadows of ourselves

Any value is better than none, even if that value is only that of a game. Wouldn't you agree?

If you settle for less, you will get less than you have settled for.


I don't want to feel this way
I don't want to say I'm just a friend
I don't want to wait around here
'Cos you don't want to feel no pain again
We just lie about it
As we become shadows of ourselves

I don't want to look away
I don't want to be the one denied
It ain't no fault of mine
Someone, somewhere told you lies
But we don't talk about it
We just become shadows of ourselves


I could feel at the time
There was no way of knowing
Fallen leaves in the night
Who can say where they´re blowing
As free as the wind
And hopefully learning
Why the sea on the tide
Has no way of turning
More than this - there is nothing
More than this - tell me one thing
More than this - there is nothing
It was fun for a while
There was no way of knowing
Like dream in the night
Who can say where we´re going
No care in the world
Maybe i´m learning
Why the sea on the tide
Has no way of turning
More than this - there is nothing
More than this - tell me one thing
More than this - there is nothing

Ah. Bryan Ferry could sing the phone book, and he'd still have the beautifullest voice that ever existed.

Water, is he just peachy keen, then? (As well as cute?)

If you settle for less, you will get less than you have settled for.


Is settling settling when no better choice exists?
If one takes the best of the options presented, is it settling?
If there is a better option that perhaps the the settler is unaware of, can one find fault with where he settles?




There's a thousand words that I could say
To make you come home
Oh, seems so long ago you walked away
Left me alone
I remember what you said to me
You were acting so strange
and maybe I was too blind to see
That you needed a change

Was it something I said
To make you turn away?
To make you walk out and leave me cold
If I could just find a way
To make it so that you were right here
But right now..

I've been sitting here
Can't get you off my mind
I've tried my best to be a man and be strong
I've drove myself insane
Wishing I could touch your face
But the truth remains..

Roman,


Dear Gendanken,
I am in love with you. You are the most fascinating creature I have ever come across. Your attention, positive or negative (usually, no, wait, always negative) drives me nuts. It really hurts to see you here in this thread, and being so boring.This is three people stroking eachothers' egos.

I've never seen such a clit fondling fest. Please do something that doesn't disappoint my infatuation so.

You've called her a creature!

Uh. This ought to be fun.


* * *


cole grey,


nothing was wrong with it, but to someone who thought this thread was too friendly, there would be something wrong with it. That is where my mention of that other thread came from.

I don't understand.


Imagine a place where the obscenities flow like wine, and every other word is "no". Then imagine a person saying this is too chummy, every word should be no, and the obscenities should be the only atmosphere. That is what I was reacting to.

Oh. But this is here. Well, not directly. It is here via the mode of our wonderful indirectness. Yeehaw.


P.S. didn't you notice my conspiratorial nod to you in the post before that one?

I apologize. I've been through many mudfights at this forum, and I became desensitized, expecting a stab in the back anytime, from anyone.


* * *


(Q),


My poor Q, so needy of attention ... What would you do without me?

Something got delayed so I'm here longer than I had first planned.
Also, some great minds appeared at this forum, so I am invited to stay. I'm having some very enjoyable and insightful conversations!

Water, is he just peachy keen, then? (As well as cute?)

Hm. Maybe he was once ... loooong ago.

Is settling settling when no better choice exists?
If one takes the best of the options presented, is it settling?
If there is a better option that perhaps the the settler is unaware of, can one find fault with where he settles?

Uh. There are always at least four options.

William, William it was really nothing
William, William it was really nothing
it was your life


I've been sitting here
Can't get you off my mind
I've tried my best to be a man and be strong
I've drove myself insane
Wishing I could touch your face
But the truth remains..

Last night I dreamt
that somebody loved me
no hope-but no harm
just another false alarm
Last night I felt
real arms around me
no hope-no harm
just another false alarm
so, tell me how long
before the last one?
and tell me how long
before the right one?
this story is old-I KNOW
but it goes on
this story is old-I KNOW
but it goes on

Stop this insanity.

Hm. Maybe he was once ... loooong ago.

Oh, sorry, is he old then? Who is Bryan Ferry? I don't, for some reason, keep up on my music. I just like the sound, and I don't get into too much of the background anymore. Whatever it can do for me is usually just through the sound. Not too interested in the background. Sound, not background.

Bryan Ferry is the singer/songwriter for the band, Roxy Music. He's the grandfather of the "hair" bands of the 80's.

Bryan Ferry is the singer/songwriter for the band, Roxy Music. He's the grandfather of the "hair" bands of the 80's.

Is that the only band he has ever sung for?

EDIT: I just looked him up on wik. Good looking guy, if I were a woman of a particular flavor, or a guy with a distinct bent. Good music?

Like, flips hair, totally.

Wath this:

I know more than you think I do you little guttersnipe.
Wassamatta, don't think I'm healthy enough to make you my obsession?
I can't hook wtih a moderator, get your number, compare it to some other sumabitch-I-knew-once that smelled just like you?


Adn then from there, run a hack prog, No, no....go to google, press groups and find you by luck?
All you need is a name, motherfucker.

And then depending on how philosophically sound and healthy I am, I will choose to call you on the phone to just to call you a nigger.
You know, like your massa.
Or do you not know what I'm talking about, you furry little genius you.

Like, boo.

Water:

You like apples?

know more than you think I do you little guttersnipe.
then put your money where your mouth is, otherwise shut the fuck up.
cunt.

I can't hook wtih a moderator, get your number, compare it to some other sumabitch-I-knew-once that smelled just like you?
go on then.


Adn then from there, run a hack prog, No, no....go to google, press groups and find you by luck?
All you need is a name, motherfucker.

do it then.


choose to call you on the phone to just to call you a nigger.
You know, like your massa.
I'm waiting slag.
No, wait leave that to your bitch, he likes to pretend he's a girl and PM people doesn't he? that's his thing isn't it?


Or do you not know what I'm talking about, you furry little genius you.
nope, coz you're talking complete and utter bollocks.

water,

if you don't know me by know,
you may never ever know me

I know what this place is,
the painful, beautiful, dangerous, earth.
My soul is a runner, and it has left me far behind,
but I still feel love, and some convictions that just are...
they are few and far between,
but better than anything polluted with the words our minds can speak.

Astrology is only true enough to be dangerous, but I am cancer AND year of the dog. If you could hear my voice, you wouldn't doubt me.

Roman:
Dear Gendanken,
I am in love with you. You are the most fascinating creature I have ever come across. Your attention, positive or negative (usually, no, wait, always negative) drives me nuts. It really hurts to see you here in this thread, and being so boring.This is three people stroking eachothers' egos.

Do not interrupt me when I'm talking to myselves.

(Roman is my Squealing Bitch)

Outlandish:

I'm waiting slag.
No, wait leave that to your bitch, he likes to pretend he's a girl and PM people doesn't he? that's his thing isn't it?
Mephura isn't, you fucking genius.
Come on, you're not this blind.

How do I know so much about you?
Why follow you around?
Does anyone else here see why I'd spend so much time with a lobotomized retard?


Water:
You were supposed to say yes.

Gendanken, you were supposed to say "maybe."

I'm waiting slag.
No, wait leave that to your bitch, he likes to pretend he's a girl and PM people doesn't he? that's his thing isn't it?


Are you really that stupid, or just blind?

Uh. There are always at least four options.

William, William it was really nothing
William, William it was really nothing
it was your life

Four?
Really...
So tell me, make it easy for a simple mind, spell it out for me plain:
What are these four choices?


Stop this insanity.

What insanity would that be?

I don't know about any of the rest of you mind-freaks, but this thread is so fucking moronic that anyone could see just exactly who is who and not give a good god-damned.

I can't keep track.
I know who matters, and anyone who has to hide themselves (from people on a computer) doesn't...
matter.

Cottontop, I'm calling the waaambulance for you and the other whiners.

okay. i could probably use a waaambulance right about now.

This is funny.

outlandish,


You can be charming. But you ain't charming now. Change your ways, or leave.


* * *


cole grey,



water,

if you don't know me by know,
you may never ever know me

I know what this place is,
the painful, beautiful, dangerous, earth.
My soul is a runner, and it has left me far behind,
but I still feel love, and some convictions that just are...
they are few and far between,
but better than anything polluted with the words our minds can speak.

You just know how to break my heart.


Astrology is only true enough to be dangerous, but I am cancer AND year of the dog.

Hah! And I am a bull AND year of the dragon! Muhahah, fear me.


If you could hear my voice, you wouldn't doubt me.

I do hear your voice, on my headphones. May the seconds run like water.
But then again, I don't really hear your voice. If I could hear it, I wouldn't doubt you.


* * *


gendanken,



Do not interrupt me when I'm talking to myselves.

Grand. You are talking to yourselves? Shall we address you in plural now?

How doth your highnesses this many a day?


How do I know so much about you?
Why follow you around?
Does anyone else here see why I'd spend so much time with a lobotomized retard?

I am lost in the veil of the Maya that you have woven!


Water:
You were supposed to say yes.

And then what?


* * *


Mephura,


Four?
Really...
So tell me, make it easy for a simple mind, spell it out for me plain:
What are these four choices?

First of all, if there are no options perceived, then it isn't even a situation of deciding and choosing at all.

But as long as you perceive something (let's mark it X) as an option, you are in fact perceiving 4 options:
1. X
2. not-X
3. neither X nor not-X, but something else that may be different than X
4. abstaining from deciding

Example: 1. Ben has the option of dating Betty, and presently, this is the only option he sees.
2. Ben thus also has the option of not dating Betty.
3. Ben can be a preemptive fuck though, date Betty in the hope that Betty will introduce him to her girlfriends, among which he will choose a new one to date.
4. Ben can also sit at home and wait for Betty to call him or come to him.


Stop this insanity.

What insanity would that be?

Quoting drooly songs, and quoting them for a reason.


* * *

Q,


Why don't you criticize me and call me stupid when I say that you'd die without my attention?

Is that the only band he has ever sung for?

He started out in another band, can't remember the name, but he's kept Roxy Music going all these years. I just saw him in concert a year or so ago.

Good music?

You bet, Ferry is an excellent song writer with a voice to match. I think he produced a number of other artists years ago with Brian Eno.

Favorite albums: Siren, Flesh & Blood, Avalon.

Siren has a picture of Jerry Hall on the front - her and Brian were boinking each other back then.

Why don't you criticize me and call me stupid when I say that you'd die without my attention?

Quite simple, really - you stated exactly what I'd expect and have recieved from theists.

But I might criticize your ignorance for not having figured out that religion divides people, to the extent that theists care about nothing but themselves.

Q,


Per you, what does qualify for "care for others"?
Define what "caring for others" is.

A grappling hook to the back of the head?

Oops! :o

I mean, a grappling hook to help pull them out of shark infested waters?

Quote w:
"You are not a gentleman.'

* Do you even know what a gentleman is sweetie?

[Chorus A]
Cause, I know you want me baby, I think I want you too
"I think I love you baby", I think I love you too
I'm here to save you girl, come be in Shady's world
I want to grow together, let's let our love unfurl
You know you want me baby, you know I want you too
They call me superman, i'm here to rescue you
I want to save you girl, come be in Shady's world
"Ooooh boy you drive me crazy", bitch you make me hurl..

;)

Mephura,

First of all, if there are no options perceived, then it isn't even a situation of deciding and choosing at all.

But as long as you perceive something (let's mark it X) as an option, you are in fact perceiving 4 options:
1. X
2. not-X
3. neither X nor not-X, but something else that may be different than X
4. abstaining from deciding

Example: 1. Ben has the option of dating Betty, and presently, this is the only option he sees.
2. Ben thus also has the option of not dating Betty.
3. Ben can be a preemptive fuck though, date Betty in the hope that Betty will introduce him to her girlfriends, among which he will choose a new one to date.
4. Ben can also sit at home and wait for Betty to call him or come to him.


Really, you have only listed two options. X or not X.
Number 3 doesn't really exist. If you choose X, you aren't chosing not X, and vise versa. It's an either or senario. In or out. Anything else is just uncertainty.
Your example of 3 would be X, then changing to not X. The motivations aren't the question. The choices are.
Number 4 would also be X, just a piss poor way of acting after making your choice. to go back to song lyrics
"If you chose not to decide you still have made a choice"

If you chose not to pick X, then you are chosing not X.
Simple.

Quoting drooly songs, and quoting them for a reason.


But the real question would be what that reason is, now wouldn't it?

Quote w:
"You are not a gentleman.'

* Do you even know what a gentleman is sweetie?

[Chorus A]
Cause, I know you want me baby, I think I want you too
"I think I love you baby", I think I love you too
I'm here to save you girl, come be in Shady's world
I want to grow together, let's let our love unfurl
You know you want me baby, you know I want you too
They call me superman, i'm here to rescue you
I want to save you girl, come be in Shady's world
"Ooooh boy you drive me crazy", bitch you make me hurl..

;)


You are embarrassing yourself. Terribly.

Says the woman who started a "ban me" thread to get attention and never really went away at all.

This thread is funny.

Really, you have only listed two options. X or not X.
Number 3 doesn't really exist. If you choose X, you aren't chosing not X, and vise versa. It's an either or senario. In or out. Anything else is just uncertainty.
Your example of 3 would be X, then changing to not X. The motivations aren't the question. The choices are.
Number 4 would also be X, just a piss poor way of acting after making your choice. to go back to song lyrics
"If you chose not to decide you still have made a choice"

If you chose not to pick X, then you are chosing not X.
Simple.

Uh. Rarely are the options we get to choose from simple, non-composite phenomena. For example, "dating Betty" is a composite phenomenon of "dating" and "Betty"; Ben could in fact *date* Betty, but if he chooses option 3, then dating Betty is merely a stepping stone to "dating XY".
It is because our options are composite phenomena, that we always have 4. If the options are non-composite phenomena (which is rare; like being in a sinking boat with two other people, and being able to save only one), then we are indeed facing an either-or, but even then, we can sometimes have the third choice, that of inaction.



But the real question would be what that reason is, now wouldn't it?

Ah, our confident words, what desperate pleas they are.

And now for the best song of all times, The Smiths again:


Take me out tonight
Where there’s music and there’s people
And they’re young and alive
Driving in your car
I never never want to go home
Because I haven’t got one
Anymore

Take me out tonight
Because I want to see people and i
Want to see life
Driving in your car
Oh, please don’t drop me home
Because it’s not my home, it’s their
Home, and I’m welcome no more

And if a double-decker bus
Crashes into us
To die by your side
Is such a heavenly way to die
And if a ten-ton truck
Kills the both of us
To die by your side
Well, the pleasure - the privilege is mine

Take me out tonight
Take me anywhere, I don’t care
I don’t care, I don’t care
And in the darkened underpass
I thought oh god, my chance has come at last
(but then a strange fear gripped me and i
Just couldn’t ask)

Take me out tonight
Oh, take me anywhere, I don’t care
I don’t care, I don’t care
Driving in your car
I never never want to go home
Because I haven’t got one, da ...
Oh, I haven’t got one

And if a double-decker bus
Crashes into us
To die by your side
Is such a heavenly way to die
And if a ten-ton truck
Kills the both of us
To die by your side
Well, the pleasure - the privilege is mine

Oh, there is a light and it never goes out
There is a light and it never goes out
There is a light and it never goes out
There is a light and it never goes out
There is a light and it never goes out
There is a light and it never goes out
There is a light and it never goes out
There is a light and it never goes out
There is a light and it never goes out


http://www.greenplastic.com/multimedia/gallery_thom/images/thom072.jpg

But it is time for me to go now.
I thank you all for your company. It has been good, very good.
I wish you all the best in your lives.
I hope I will find a kind place in your memory, those who will remember.

So, you're not going afterall?

What was the purpose of this thread?

What was the purpose of this thread?
An excuse to copy and paste song lyrics?