deleted in protest of poor moderation

Troll on, Space Cadet. :)

Theoryofrelativity, anyone who failed to agree with your conclusion that the action of the other poster was irresponsible parenting was situated approximately five nautical miles beneath contempt. The only conceivable way in which your activity (as described) could be considered trolling is if the forum was called GoldenLocationfor DumbAssedMindDeadPosterstoContributeDrivel:NoSensi blePostsPermitted.

I have been accused of trolling on several occasions: generally for taking people to task for poorly structured arguments, crap English, lack of logic, or intransigent stupidity. I have never been accused of trolling by anyone whose opinion I respected.

On the plus side people who leave loaded guns in their homes are likley to spend less time in the gene pool than most, so the condition is self correcting.

Oh my God we were separated at birth! That is the name of the site I was on!
(pseudonym 'Ether Zone the intelligent alternative')

I have discovered as have you that taking people to task is NOT the done thing. Won't stop me though, what's that superhero mantra?

(imagine deep voice and puffed out chest)
Wherever there is injustice I'll be there.........

or

wherever people don't read posts properly, contradict themselves or appear to be hypocritical I'll be thereeeeeee

wonder how long I last on this forum...how long have you been here?

My opinion was as follows for anyone interested, someone made a post saying that they left their loaded gun behind the bedroom door when their kids were little and the kids never touched it. My opinion was that this was irresponsible parenting.Times have changed and they change at different rates in different places. If the person was talking about some place like Texas and it happened twenty years ago, it might have been considered acceptable there and then. So the person did what he had been raised to believe was okay and by golly it turned out okay. Everyone has to do the risk analysis and management in their own lives and when you're a kid your parents do it for you. Statistically the kid was probably in far greater danger of being killed by a drunk driver (something else that society's ideas have changed about, but once again a whole lot more slowly in places like Texas) so the parent may have been following the accepted wisdom of the time and place, no matter how bad we in our noble and enlightened modern state now know it to be.The result, as well as being called a troll, I was called a prostitute, drug user, someone claimed I was from Holland believed in euthanaisa an killed babies, euro trash, I stunk, u name it all manner of insultsBut then... You come out being the champion of children's rights, by these people's standards a commie pinko advocate of the Nanny State... and somebody calls you a baby killer? That's just so illogical that it wouldn't even fly in Texas. These people are imbeciles. Find a higher-quality website to hang out on before your brain cells start to atrophy from disuse.

BTW, it's not an insult to be called Dutch. It's also not an insult to be accused of believing in the type of assisted suicide for the terminally ill that is legal in Holland. Many of us believe it is compassionate and honorable. We think it's humane to do it for our pets so why should we make our grandmothers wither away in humiliation with all of their memories gone, the IQ of a two-year-old, and diapers?

My opinion was as follows for anyone interested, someone made a post saying that they left their loaded gun behind the bedroom door when their kids were little and the kids never touched it. My opinion was that this was irresponsible parenting. The result, as well as being called a troll, I was called a prostitute, drug user, someone claimed I was from Holland believed in euthanaisa an killed babies, euro trash, I stunk, u name it all manner of insults oh and the wars got a mention, I however merely stuck to my original opinion, didn't get racist, I did question the posters mentality for reacting as they did but otherwise to me it was me being denied an opinion rather than me sabotaging other peoples.

any parent that leaves a loaded gun where a child can get it should be shot with it.
your opinion was correct
if i were you i would go back and spam their threads

any parent that leaves a loaded gun where a child can get it should be shot with it.
your opinion was correct
if i were you i would go back and spam their threads

I can't they banned me! I dangerously questioned the IQ of the moderator...lol so it was to be expected, but then if you call a board the intelligent zone, you should expect some intelligence to be demonstrated or be prepared to defend a challenge that you have some?

good for you for showing those idiots up fo what they are. they sound SO thick stupid and dense and irresponsible it MAKES ya wanna go shoot yourself in shame ofthem bein part of their species

MAKES ya wanna go shoot yourself
i'm surprised at you duendy !
shoot THEM, not yourself

i'm surprised at you duendy !
shoot THEM, not yourself
....i was being metaphorical.

(imagine deep voice and puffed out chest)
Wherever there is injustice I'll be there.........

or

wherever people don't read posts properly, contradict themselves or appear to be hypocritical I'll be thereeeeeee

wonder how long I last on this forum...how long have you been here?

Ah, the eternal question - be right or be popular? Or at least, stay and try to correct people of their non-existent logic or get out of that forum before your brain explodes?

My brain did explode (since regenerated) and my only regret about being booted was that I didn't get a last word!

I do not seek popularity only that my posts contribute something to a forum, I did try to educate the 'intelligent alternative at ether zone' with zero success, you cannot reason with the insane.

Actually thinking about it, there's a clue there in their title, 'The Intelligent alternative'

What's the alternative to 'intelligence?' hehe

wonder how long I last on this forum...how long have you been here?Approaching eighteen months.

i was being metaphorical. Before I went bald I once met a follicle.

I have only 5mins ago found out what a troll and trolling is, I'm not an online forum regular this is totally new to me.


I have a Norwegian Troll in my bedroom window. "Trolling" is to cast a spell on someone. At least by Samish belief ;)

"Trolling" is to cast a spell on someone.

In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who posts rude or offensive messages on the Internet, such as on online discussion forums, to disrupt discussion or to upset its participants.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

Spamming is the abuse of any electronic communications medium to send unsolicited messages in bulk.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_(electronic)

Trolling is when someone posts a stupid and often pointless thread and then bashes just about everyone's responses. These people are usually very insecure and usually have nothing to do. This is probably also what Ophiolite refers to in his gun-at-home-less-time-in-the-gene-pool picture : see the subforum 'Science and Society' subforum for a good example of a troll who defends himself against everybody else. Ironically some trolls use this word themselves, unaware of its definition (since attacking everyone is unique only to themselves).

Is this definition correct?

ok, we kinda know aht a 'troll' is now

so, let me arsk/ what is a person who ignores a 'troll's behaviourcause said troll is 'on their side'---? do u getme?

ok, we kinda know aht a 'troll' is now

so, let me arsk/ what is a person who ignores a 'troll's behaviourcause said troll is 'on their side'---? do u getme?

Well trolling is deliberately trying to disrupt discussion and cause tensions between posters, according to the search I did on the internet and I've never done either. Being labelled a troll for disagreeing just shows the person seeking agreement is highly insecure. Having a problem with the person who agree's with the insecure individuals alleged 'troll' just reinforces their insecurity. Do you label people trolls Duendy?

Well trolling is deliberately trying to disrupt discussion and cause tensions between posters, according to the search I did on the internet and I've never done either. Being labelled a troll for disagreeing just shows the person seeking agreement is highly insecure. Having a problem with the person who agree's with the insecure individuals alleged 'troll' just reinforces their insecurity. Do you label people trolls Duendy?
...NO. i usually call em worse shit than that...heh

let's examine the evidence:

ok. yo shard with us you werecalled troll for simply saying--VERY rightly--that guns should not be in any way accessible to children. in UK, where i'm at that is be default!! I dont even AGREE with gunownership so fuk knows what those idiots wud call me...?

so their accusation you are a troll is ignorant, as is their views . whcih u challenged. bravo

BUT tere ARE trolls tho aren't they? isn't a troll smeone who just comes into a thread and spits insults at any alternative views. this includes ad himinems against the person

te worst person that does this in my experience at these forums is a character callin himself, 'Light'
they dont really say anything constructive. they just insult

so. what i was asking is. e know what a troll is, right? so what ould we call someone who ACCEPTS such behaviours because they share a similar worldview. ie., they even may criticize anothe poster's more milder behaviour or even similar, yet hafe a complete blindspot for their rude colleage's behavior?

what are THEy called?

I have never been accused of trolling by anyone whose opinion I respected.

i understand this completely
a younger sibling adores me until privileges are witheld. then i am hated.
ahh, the psychology of immature minds
so predictable, ja?

You are confusing cause and effect. I am not surprised.

You are confusing cause and effect. I am not surprised.


Hi Ophiolite

I 've noticed on this site reading the threads (not this one) that quite often (naming no names.......) the alleged peace loving 'spread the love around' types are the ones who end up making the most rude and offensive posts, bizarrely in order to defend their peaceloving threads? What's the psychology behind that then or I am imagining it?

do u mean me?

do u mean me?

nooooooooooo, why does it sound like you?

nooooooooooo, why does it sound like you?
who meeeeeeeeee?

Theory of Relativity,
You may well not be imagining it, although I should be disappointed if I was not in contention for some of the rudest posts. ;)

Off the top of my head there are seven kinds of people who post on discussion forums. It would probably be more accurate to say there are sevenmotives. Most of us will have been moved by each of these at one time or another, but one or two aspects will tend to dominate:

1) A desire for specific information, normally expressed with a straightforward question.
2) A wish to educate and inform, often by addressing issues raised by the motivation 1.
3) A need to 'show off' ones education, knowledge, experience etc
4) A liking for confrontation.
5) The intention of pushing an agenda - this breaks down into two kinds, those who are for something and those who are against something.
6) The desire to deflate popmposity and attack loose thinking
7) A wish to communicate in a way not afforded by normal social interactions.

1 and 2 are what forums are meant to be about.
3 and 7 are harmless, and perhaps beneficial, secondary aspects.

4 and 5 are negative. They are not tolerated on most forums. As a consequence, 6 tends to be less required.
sci.forums, for whatever reason, has decided to tolerate a lot of 4 and 5. The result is a very active forum where most of the discussion are lightweight and qucikly deteriorate into cat fights.
This is the responsibility of the moderators, but the fault of the individual posters.

I seem to have wandered, but if any of that resonates with you we could perhaps discuss further.

If you find this aspect of this forum unattractive and would like to consider alternatives pm me and I'll give you some other sites that are more polite and focused than this one. I mainly come here to vent against the intransigently hateful and willfully ignorant. :)

The result, as well as being called a troll, I was called a prostitute, drug user, someone claimed I was from Holland believed in euthanaisa an killed babies, euro trash, I stunk, u name it all manner of insults oh and the wars got a mention, I however merely stuck to my original opinion, didn't get racist, I did question the posters mentality for reacting as they did but otherwise to me it was me being denied an opinion rather than me sabotaging other peoples.

At least they didn't call you emo.

I like the site, its very stimulating and fun!

And isn't that what it really all comes down to? BTW, I'm guilty of items 1 thru... Hmmm... 7. Yep. All seven.

You are confusing cause and effect. I am not surprised.

sorry
you just refuse to accept the rather apt analogy
it is ok
cling to your delusion
i do not mind

You mean there are posters, other than Trolls, on this Forum?! :eek:

You mean there are posters, other than Trolls, on this Forum?! :eek:
yes there are
not to offend anyone here is my list of non troll posters
james r.
hercules rockefellar
antonk

sorry guys that sums it up
there are others but that is the whole idea of being a non troll, nobody remembers your name

yes there are
not to offend anyone here is my list of non troll posters
james r.
hercules rockefellar
antonk

sorry guys that sums it up
there are others but that is the whole idea of being a non troll, nobody remembers your name

Ok, so I guess by offending everyone except those three and labelling eveyone a troll, that makes u a troll right? being as you're offending the majority? Isn't that trollism? lol