If you look forward to stuff you get disappointed in stuff. Somtimes in life we get mixed up into stuff thinking that it might benefit us somehow on some certian level educational, phsical, finacially, and what not. What ive come to realize in everyday tasks there is a something and a nothing jsut like the universe. I jsut try to do my stuff without thinking about it, ive been trying to not really think about anything. Jsut try and picture white jsut white nothing more and nothing less. What if you could control the electrical signals that were produced by your brain, like all of them would you shut down what would really happen?


Letting go of it all is the anwser.........

Why should you let go? Why not grasp tighter? Why are you regulating yourself to unconsciousness? If that is your aim, why not commit suicide?

bah
i think the point here is to keep everything in perspective
of course that begets a worldview....

Are you saying that in order to avoid disappointment we should live apathetically? That seems like a pretty boring existence to me.

Unconsciousness is the true path to consciouness, with in life isnt there a negative and a positive. Without anything there is either a negative or a positive..so neither sad or happy what would happen then?

Unconsciousness is the true path to consciouness, with in life isnt there a negative and a positive. Without anything there is either a negative or a positive..so neither sad or happy what would happen then?

If you look forward to stuff you get disappointed in stuff. Somtimes in life we get mixed up into stuff thinking that it might benefit us somehow on some certian level educational, phsical, finacially, and what not. What ive come to realize in everyday tasks there is a something and a nothing jsut like the universe. I jsut try to do my stuff without thinking about it, ive been trying to not really think about anything. Jsut try and picture white jsut white nothing more and nothing less. What if you could control the electrical signals that were produced by your brain, like all of them would you shut down what would really happen?


Letting go of it all is the anwser.........

Sorry, but this is about the most disorganized presentation of whatever it is that I've ever seen. :bugeye:

You seem to be suggesting a total withdrawal from reality into a nothingness. That makes no sense at all. And shutting down ALL of the electrical signals in the brain equals death. Where is there any advantage in being dead???

If you look forward to stuff you get disappointed in stuff. Somtimes in life we get mixed up into stuff thinking that it might benefit us somehow on some certian level educational, phsical, finacially, and what not. What ive come to realize in everyday tasks there is a something and a nothing jsut like the universe. I jsut try to do my stuff without thinking about it, ive been trying to not really think about anything. Jsut try and picture white jsut white nothing more and nothing less. What if you could control the electrical signals that were produced by your brain, like all of them would you shut down what would really happen?


Letting go of it all is the anwser.........

There is a useful explanation of this in Buddhism:

It is because we cling to our expectations (positive or negative), that we end up disappointed with reality, no matter how good this reality may be.
By clinging to our expectations (or other thoughts), we give them preference over reality, and thus setting ourselves up for disappointment.

The solution is to not cling to those expectations, and take life as it comes.


I don't know if you are a Buddhist, but you have come to roundabout the same explanation as they would suggest.

If you look forward to stuff you get disappointed in stuff.

me::you hav just made a generalized statement that isn't true. not for everyone, and not for you ALL te time. for example, two weeks ago i went to see te Alvin Ailey Dance Company. I had been looking foreward to it for ages, as we had booked seats etc. I had a GREAT time. which disporves your theory, no?

Somtimes in life we get mixed up into stuff thinking that it might benefit us somehow on some certian level educational, phsical, finacially, and what not.

me::depends what it is. depends on wheter you feel you HAVE to do something or whete you yourself have chosen to. from there yo accept responsibility for your actions

What ive come to realize in everyday tasks there is a something and a nothing jsut like the universe. I jsut try to do my stuff without thinking about it, ive been trying to not really think about anything. Jsut try and picture white jsut white nothing more and nothing less. What if you could control the electrical signals that were produced by your brain, like all of them would you shut down what would really happen?

me::who wouold be the 'you' who would control it? the one who is pissed off wit everyting? so much so all you awanna is white? life aint just white, its black and all colours and in between. all-white to me can be nice but it can also be very clinical, like a Dentist surgery


Letting go of it all is the anwser.........
of all what? life.....depends what you mean....lettin go

Expect nothing and you will never be disappointed.

Expect nothing and you will never be disappointed.

Expect nothing and you'll never know you received, or lost something.

Expect the worst, but hope for the best.

LackofSkill:

Unconsciousness is the true path to consciouness, with in life isnt there a negative and a positive. Without anything there is either a negative or a positive..so neither sad or happy what would happen then?

In what way can this be conceived as consciousness? If you have nothing, you have no thought, you have no life, you have nothing.

Prince,


How can you *have* *nothing*?

Water:

Exactly. To have nothing is not to have at all.

Expect nothing and you'll never know you received, or lost something.


I ment this when I give someone my time to help them I don't expect anything in return from them. If something does come back to me I will be very happy to recieve it. I just don't expect anything in return but I do realize it when I do get something or else I would be a fool.

Cosmictraveler,


I can't read minds. Yet.

(I love this line!)

Buddhists essentially do not follow duality.
I see alot of Buddhists screwing up Buddhism by incorporating duality into their religion.
Duality can be best explained by the ying yang twins. There are many dualities. Masculine and feminine are dualities. Good and evil are dualities.
Buddhism however claims that dualities do not exist. They abide by a middle path paradigm. At least the real one do.

Buddhists essentially do not follow duality.
I see alot of Buddhists screwing up Buddhism by incorporating duality into their religion.
Duality can be best explained by the ying yang twins. There are many dualities. Masculine and feminine are dualities. Good and evil are dualities.
Buddhism however claims that dualities do not exist. They abide by a middle path paradigm. At least the real one do.

I have always interpreted yin/yang as being about a middle path. The middle path is the relationship. If we see that everything is made up of relationships, and that these relationships are made up of relationships, and that those relationships are all made up of a single relationship, then you realize that the very "substance" of all things is no substance at all, but relationship. Then you may have have the Monistic View.

However, it's just hard for humans to ccnceive of relationship without getting caught up in the "things" that are perceived as being the "end points" (e.g., the "good versus evil," the "masculine versus feminine," as if these things are stand-alone objects with any meaning unto themselves.

In the past I have argued that it is only when complete balance of all yin and yang effects that one achieves a state of balanced nothingness. When both energies balance the other out the net result being zero.

It takes imbalance to generate movement and thus change and it is the desire of the Buddhist to balance and find a point of nothingness in that balance.

Energy can only exist if it has the potential to do work. To do work it must have imbalance. If energy is perfectly balanced the ability to do work is neutrlised thus energy is effectively destroyed as a workable entity.

An example of this is to have no expectations [ nor desire ], which means that there is no work to be done nor any work able to be done, thus just lowering expectations lowers the differential in energies thus promoting greater contentment [ less urgency].

However it could be argued that doing nothing is not necessarilly a state of contentment but this of course depends on how addicted you are to doing and expecting and disappointment.

I have always interpreted yin/yang as being about a middle path.
Good for you. It doesn't matter what you call it. That has nothing to do with what "middle path" is in Buddhism. What you call the "middle path" is the opposite of what the Buddhists call the "middle path". It means that they do not believe in those dualities.
The point is this:
A. We do not have to label it the “middle path”.
B. There are 2 opposing beliefs.
One is the belief in dualities such as yin/yang good/evil etc.
The other is the belief in no dualities.
C. The Buddhists have the belief in no dualities.
D. Many Buddhists have incorporated their dualistic belief systems into their Buddhism. They use phrases such as “good karma” and “bad karma”. Buddhist “essentially” do not believe in dualities. There is “essentially” no such thing in Buddhism as “good karma” and “Bad karma”. There is only karma period. Many Buddhists however incorporate of their dualistic beliefs, which is perfectly fine. It is not the original Buddhist belief, but it does not mean it is wrong to believe so. Many people just fine in their Buddhist practice with dualistic beliefs. Nothing wrong with it. It is just important to understand that it is an add-on, and not the original belief.