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sisyphus__
02-15-08, 02:11 AM
Okay, Clark Kent disguised as superman finally comes out of his shadow to reveal himself, and in the process wishes to ask a question. Pardon me guys, but try to take it easy on me in this thread, okay?

If you don't I understand.
But I have a question that I would like to ask about.

I feel that it is somewhat philosophical, also I know that it should have at least some philosphical meaning behind it, or attached to.

Irregardless. It is only that I am asking about universal human condition and associated things. Now. I said that good for me. Basically I only mean what is the human condition. "WTF" says crunchy cat. Well, you see, I do not know what in paticular it is that ascribes a human condition and I wanted to get this straight if you don't mind.... lol....

So, what gives a human his "condition"; what gives a human his "condition" when he is confronted by anxiety; what gives a human his humanity, when faced with his humanity; is this just personal, as many people have difficulties with their selves. I wonder and ask about it because I feel that I am confused about it. When someone comes to my house, the mess that it indeed, is in, I am then confronted with my responsibilities as an individual, and so let me ask a question about that if you please.

I am faced with my responsibility. I have no choice but to acknowledge my superiors cares and ... needs? Anyway, the fact is the mess that my house is in and my apparent Inability to clean it up due to whatever it is exactly, causes a great deal of torment and stress with my Grandfather (superior) who happens to let me rent this house.

It's basically mine, shit, but if I don't get this place under control-------- there are obvious consequences.

Anwyway. The dude comes in to my house; it is his mothers who passed away a long time ago. Starts asking if I am ever going to see you do anything successful etc right? I am ashamed at my behavior most of the time as at the present were he to pull up I would be frightend with shock that such an event is taking place. That he will spot my shitty behavior and assume I am entirely not too great at whatever he so sees.

But the fact is that most of the time I am entirely capable of holding up, ... and talking to him some how. After surviving all that I have survived here I still sit typing on this keypad; on this horrible forum. lol... Writing about the same shit. "The universal human condition"; the "this and this", the "that and that"; --- I am fucking fed up with it.

It isn't like I desire to see anything wrong happen. I refuse for such to occur. I do not wish to write about human conditions that do not exist. Although I know that the question is pretty stupid from where and how I am asking it, I feel that also it has a pretty interesting value attached to it as well.

Regardless of that value which I do not at present wish to consider.

And all of the readers attention that I have grasped.

In anyway that it is infact, grasped.

The point to me is only that I do not understand if I am doing something wrong necessarially with accepting this human condition; there; I said it; it's simple. This fucking thing with human condition is a huge and bobane and insane point to me; not to mention the fact that I usually strugle to survive every day.

Dont we all. No. We all do not struggle to survive every day. For the most part we are all capable and relatively happy with our every day existence; if not then what else are we. Most of us bobane individuals here are entirely normal. That's not to say that I know of the other people who are not.

This is not a thread for chatting but a thread to get across a single blasted point.

The universal conditon (now, having said all of that above, I will go on to the point that I wish to make--- if that makes any sense at all):

My point is only in that I feel that people have a relative universal condition; whatever signifigance is attached to this I am not sure.

Only that, ... now my eyes are straining badly.. sheesh. NEVER GO THROUGH TORMENT... trust me...

Okay. So the human condition is ... what? That we are basically confinend to it; bah, it's hard to even word it. Okay fine... how would someone feel if sitting in a room alone, and someone walks up to their door? What is the "normal" condition for someone? Woulld then, well, "not" feel "free", is what I am trying to not say but, would they feel as if they are ... I don't know? W.. and this relates with "mental health" or some jibberish; what would a persons perception of daily life consist. What are the standards. What are the "conditions", of a person going through life? Do you see this question? Relates as I said with "mental health" or how a person should ... what am I missing?



Let me guess. A LOT.
Yeah, no shit; the condition is set before us and it is simple as hell.
Yeah, no shit, reading books should come across as no suprise, simply read and understand,
yeah, no ****, bla bla bla, bla bla bla bla bla bl abla.

Anyway. I'm not going to get into all of what I think I know about how such things are, by talking about ... speachless... things... maybe.... Oh well.

I guess the human condition can really fuck with me sometimes :p

hehe.
So. This feeling of completeness... what is it... like. Not completeness; rather perhaps what is expected considering what I have said above.

If liked to elaborate on some of what I missed out on that would .. naturally. Be cool.

See you guys when I get this rock to roll back down the hill. lol.

Crunchy Cat
02-15-08, 02:58 AM
I've never put too much stock into philosophy but we can look to see what we know about ourselves from a scientific standpoint. We are biological difference detection machines that are geared to collect energy for the purpose of persisting. Our behavior is influenced by our genetics and environment. Pleasure, pain, and strong emotion are our top motivators to do things or not do things. We are living in an environment very different than our ancestors and not everyone adapts equally as well.

sisyphus__
02-15-08, 03:13 AM
Well I don't put much stock into science; and the value of what I say apparently.

I guess my main question is about what I am not doing with the condition; but I think I know about it.

See, I view all of you guys as having a steady life and understanding everything that you know. I used to have it; ... I assume we all have it. Do you think what you said above is a good general view of humanity and what happens around us? That's pretty cool if that is so.

I am just wondering about this CC: What makes me feel like I own my existence. This is a perplexing question but I have never tried to phrase it properly:
The situation I described above for example,

That we are basically confinend to it; bah, it's hard to even word it. Okay fine... how would someone feel if sitting in a room alone, and someone walks up to their door? What is the "normal" condition for someone? Woulld then, well, "not" feel "free", is what I am trying to not say but, would they feel as if they are ... I don't know? W.. and this relates with "mental health" or some jibberish; what would a persons perception of daily life consist. What are the standards. What are the "conditions", of a person going through life? Do you see this question? Relates as I said with "mental health" or how a person should ... what am I missing?

How do you feel where you are at.
Do you feel secure; like things are in place (this is the most obvious version of the question).
Do you feel like you are missing anything?

I feel like I am missing something.\

Anyway. I don't want you to take me the wrong way. But that was a good post.

Crunchy Cat
02-15-08, 03:38 AM
I guess my main question is about what I am not doing with the condition; but I think I know about it.

You might not be building a life.


See, I view all of you guys as having a steady life and understanding everything that you know. I used to have it; ... I assume we all have it.

Some of us do and some of us dont. Stability is advantageous when it can be achieved.


Do you think what you said above is a good general view of humanity and what happens around us? That's pretty cool if that is so.

'Good' and 'Bad' are pretty subjective; however, the view I expressed is fairly accurate.


I am just wondering about this CC: What makes me feel like I own my existence. This is a perplexing question but I have never tried to phrase it properly:
The situation I described above for example,

It's your sense of self presumably. It is controlled by a specific part of your brain and is rooted in the most basic organisms ability to distinguish 'self' from 'other'. Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation can reduce the activity in that part of your brain and the result is a rather euphoric (and often hallucingenic) experience where feel like you became one with everything (i.e. self and other no longer exist).


How do you feel where you are at.
Do you feel secure; like things are in place (this is the most obvious version of the question).
Do you feel like you are missing anything?

Personally? I feel secure and content at present. Anything that turns up missing, I satisfy with outlets.

sisyphus__
02-15-08, 03:50 AM
You might not be building a life.
Well that goes down to the main question I was asking. I hope your right. I'm doing every single thing that I can do.

So. Let's see how far you can reach my words. And how far I can reach to you. heh.


Some of us do and some of us dont. Stability is advantageous when it can be achieved.
It isn't soley stabality, but I suppose.
Anyway.


'Good' and 'Bad' are pretty subjective; however, the view I expressed is fairly accurate.

Okay, that's cool as hell.

It's your sense of self presumably. It is controlled by a specific part of your brain and is rooted in the most basic organisms ability to distinguish 'self' from 'other'. Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation can reduce the activity in that part of your brain and the result is a rather euphoric (and often hallucingenic) experience where feel like you became one with everything (i.e. self and other no longer exist).

That scares the shit out of me.
I have almost had that happen. Transcendental magnetic stimulation huh.
What is this caused by.
The stress caused by all of my tormenting experiences from other people and my inability to be on a similar level with their voices is horrendous and scary as all get outs. It requires me to attempt to survive every day.

Change is bad is a very large element in accepting others normality and such; so I attempt to simply ignore doing things a lot. Also debilitation is maybe a part of it; along with being "acton paralized."
Yes though I am sort of concerned about that.

Mind if I describe an example?:
I felt as if I was similar to what you had said above "one with everything" and have contemplated someones thoughts about knowing everything at the moment is all that we can do because it is all that we know. If we don't know everything (which should come across as an obvious); ... you get the point.

But the same thing appears because of my active self analysis; to a great degree.

The point is that it has caused me to feel like all of what I am is...
do you see what I mean?>
Similar to what you have said but not others .. perhaps.



Personally? I feel secure and content at present. Anything that turns up missing, I satisfy with outlets.

Yeah. Anyway, I still don't understand what I'm missing. But I suppose we could leave that alone temporalily.

Got to go to sleep soon...

Crunchy Cat
02-15-08, 04:06 AM
That scares the shit out of me.
I have almost had that happen. Transcendental magnetic stimulation huh.
What is this caused by.
The stress caused by all of my tormenting experiences from other people and my inability to be on a similar level with their voices is horrendous and scary as all get outs. It requires me to attempt to survive every day.

'Transcranial' Magnetic Stimulation (TMS). It's a technology that projects prceise EM fields into cross sections of people's brains; thus, increasing or reducing electrical activity in those parts.

The activity in the part of your brain responsible for a sense of self can be electrically reduced with TSM; thus, resulting in your sense of self going bye bye. If that part of your brain is damaged or has low / inconsistent blood flow then the effect can be the same (but uncontrollable).


Change is bad is a very large element in accepting others normality and such; so I attempt to simply ignore doing things a lot. Also debilitation is maybe a part of it; along with being "acton paralized."
Yes though I am sort of concerned about that.

I do understand the behavior; however, that's something more for a professional psychologist / psychiatrist to take on as I don't have enough knowledge about extreme aversions to change.


Mind if I describe an example?:
I felt as if I was similar to what you had said above "one with everything" and have contemplated someones thoughts about knowing everything at the moment is all that we can do because it is all that we know. If we don't know everything (which should come across as an obvious); ... you get the point.

But the same thing appears because of my active self analysis; to a great degree.

The point is that it has caused me to feel like all of what I am is...
do you see what I mean?>
Similar to what you have said but not others .. perhaps.

I really hope this doesn't mean you periodically and uncontrollably lose your sense of self. In all cases I am aware of where it happens naturally it is a result of brain damage / blood flow issues. Seriously, go for an MRI.

Spud Emperor
02-15-08, 04:07 AM
. Seriously, go for an MRI.

Just be sure to remove your prince Albert first.

sisyphus__
02-15-08, 04:09 AM
Go stuff a sock in your toilet stud emperor. Seriously. Do it before you run out of tampons.

Spud Emperor
02-15-08, 04:12 AM
I was taking the caring approach,
I hear and understand, private conversation.
Carry on.

sisyphus__
02-15-08, 04:14 AM
The only problem without the sock is that he doesn't take things serious enough.

Oh well, that is completely fine.

sisyphus__
02-15-08, 04:15 AM
I'll come up with a clever response for you tomorrow CC.

Good night man.

Spud Emperor
02-15-08, 06:04 AM
I'll come up with a clever response for you tomorrow CC.

Good night man.

thinking, thinking, griiiinddd! grunion, griiiinddd,
OOhhh! it hurts....thinking,...thinking,,,under pressure..grind, grind ..........
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cough!
Eeahhhghhh!

sisyphus__
02-15-08, 04:24 PM
I know you wouldn't like to feel like that.