I accidently run into this guy's bio, it is sure an interesting read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Panzram

Just a short quote:

"In my lifetime I have murdered 21 human beings, I have committed thousands of burglaries, robberies, larcenies, arsons and last but not least I have committed sodomy on more than 1,000 male human beings. For all these things I am not in the least bit sorry." —Carl Panzram

In light of his extensive criminal record, he was handed a 25-year sentence which was to be served at Leavenworth Federal Penitentiary. "I'll kill the first man that bothers me," Panzram told the warden; on June 20, 1929 he killed Robert Warnke, foreman of the prison laundry in Leavenworth, battering him to death with an iron bar. Panzram was sentenced to death. He refused to appeal, even threatening to kill human rights groups that attempted to appeal on his behalf."

He was an excellent example for the capital punishment, at least one death could have been prevented by executing him earlier.

best quote:

"When asked by the executioner if he had any last words, Panzram barked, "Hurry it up, you Hoosier bastard! I could kill 10 men while you're fooling around!""

P.S.: Anyway, the point what I was trying to make: When a person sentenced to life in prison, can you guarantee he never kills again? Of course not...

I accidently run into this guy's bio, it is sure an interesting read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Panzram

Just a short quote:

"In my lifetime I have murdered 21 human beings, I have committed thousands of burglaries, robberies, larcenies, arsons and last but not least I have committed sodomy on more than 1,000 male human beings. For all these things I am not in the least bit sorry." —Carl Panzram

In light of his extensive criminal record, he was handed a 25-year sentence which was to be served at Leavenworth Federal Penitentiary. "I'll kill the first man that bothers me," Panzram told the warden; on June 20, 1929 he killed Robert Warnke, foreman of the prison laundry in Leavenworth, battering him to death with an iron bar. Panzram was sentenced to death. He refused to appeal, even threatening to kill human rights groups that attempted to appeal on his behalf."

He was an excellent example for the capital punishment, at least one death could have been prevented by executing him earlier.

best quote:

"When asked by the executioner if he had any last words, Panzram barked, "Hurry it up, you Hoosier bastard! I could kill 10 men while you're fooling around!""
Sounds like a retarded sociopath to me.

P.S.: Anyway, the point what I was trying to make: When a person sentenced to life in prison, can you guarantee he never kills again? Of course not...
They could always opt for him to be contained solely with other murderers/rapists.

You know who else is really crazy to read about it Albert Fish

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fish

They could always opt for him to be contained solely with other murderers/rapists.

..and murderers/rapists don't deserve protection? So we gonna keep these type of dudes in a Hannibal-like protection dress for the rest of their lifes?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fish

That was interesting as well. This is the only reason it worths to start threads, so I can occasionally learn something new...

..and murderers/rapists don't deserve protection? So we gonna keep these type of dudes in a Hannibal-like protection dress for the rest of their lifes?

No, I was merely theorizing on what they could do with them if capital punishment wasn't an option.
Seems to me they could better put murders and rapists at risk of being killed than the 'lesser criminals'.

I read Panzram's autobiography, what an amazing (and criminal) life. They made a movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113542/) about him, but it wasn't very good. Fish was another breed entirely, a complete psycho, but Panzram strikes me as just a greedy, angry man with not an ounce of compassion.

I've actually been planning on writing a book about Henry Lee Lucas for a couple of years now. But first I need to accumulate the funds to go and visit the area where he grew up and some of the other places he frequented. He was also very interesting.

Isn't there a book about him already?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Lee_Lucas

Oh, what the fuck!:

On June 26, 1998, then governor of Texas, George W. Bush commuted his death sentence to life without the possibility of parole. The true number of murders he committed is still unknown.

Isn't there a book about him already?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Lee_Lucas

I'm sure there are many. I just want to add to the collection :D

Should not there be a brain implant that could normalize the brain yet? On the other hand, we now have over 6 billion people. These weeds need to be removed from the society to make room for more weeds....

Oh, what the fuck!:

On June 26, 1998, then governor of Texas, George W. Bush commuted his death sentence to life without the possibility of parole. The true number of murders he committed is still unknown.

THATS MY BIRTHDAY!

THATS MY BIRTHDAY!

You are 9 ? :bugeye:

No no. June 26, but not 1998.

No no. June 26, but not 1998.

Haha :D

When is your Bday En?

When is your Bday En?

I'm embarrassed to say.. :o

I'm embarrassed to say.. :o

Why? IS IT TODAY???:D

HAPPY BIRTHDAY EN!!!

Why? IS IT TODAY???:D

HAPPY BIRTHDAY EN!!!

No.. it was two days ago (May 4th). You all forgot me.. :bawl:

No.. it was two days ago (May 4th). You all forgot me.. :bawl:

Now I feel bad :(

Happy belated gozer!

Now I feel bad :(

Happy belated gozer!

LOL thanks man :)

No.. it was two days ago (May 4th). You all forgot me.. :bawl:

OH GOD! Really it was Nietzchefans Birthday May 3'rd. That explains
everything now. :p


Happy Belated Birthday!!

OH GOD! Really it was Nietzchefans Birthday May 3'rd. That explains
everything now. :p

:eek: Creepy ! lol

Thanks Shorty :)

Why did a thread on a mass murdering convict become a happy birthday thread?

Because even mass murdering convicts have birthdays.

Ok, lets get back on topic.

Other favorite sociopathic serial killers?

Because even mass murdering convicts have birthdays.

Exactly ! :D

Not strictly a psychopathic serial killer, but mad as a box of frogs and a lovely fella with it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chopper_Read

Not strictly a psychopathic serial killer, but mad as a box of frogs and a lovely fella with it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chopper_Read

What a Dbag!!!

I'm just curious. Why are people fascinated with serial killers/mass murderers? Is it a bit like when you rubberneck at a roadside accident?

These are the extremes of society. Like we stare at the disabled.

I wonder, In Darwinian theory, would these be the best adapted to survive ?

Why are people fascinated with serial killers/mass murderers?

Why shouldn't we? Wouldn't it be stranger if we said: oh, he is just a serial killer, nothing special...

These are the extremes of society. Like we stare at the disabled.

I wonder, In Darwinian theory, would these be the best adapted to survive ?

They don't seem to survive all that well, since society hunts them down if possible. Cheating social norms can work for a small minority, but if we were all cheaters, society would suffer.

Why shouldn't we? Wouldn't it be stranger if we said: oh, he is just a serial killer, nothing special...

People read books and books on them, that passes beyond the realms of normality to me. Eeek, that's a bit judgemental. Yeah, it's a bit weird to me how folk seem so fascinated with them.

Not strictly a psychopathic serial killer, but mad as a box of frogs and a lovely fella with it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chopper_Read

oh reallly?:cool: I'll see that and raise you two:

http://www.thequoteblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/johnwaynegacy.jpg

http://www.biography.com/biography/images/episode_images/Ed_Gein_320X240.jpg

You know who else is really crazy to read about it Albert Fish

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fish

I brought him to the Riker Avenue dumps. There is a house that stands alone, not far from where I took him. I took the boy there. Stripped him naked and tied his hands and feet and gagged him with a piece of dirty rag I picked out of the dump. Then I burned his clothes. Threw his shoes in the dump. Then I walked back and took the trolley to 59 Street at 2 a.m. and walked from there home. Next day about 2 p.m., I took tools, a good heavy cat-o-nine tails. Home made. Short handle. Cut one of my belts in half, slit these halves in six strips about 8 inches long. I whipped his bare behind till the blood ran from his legs. I cut off his ears, nose, slit his mouth from ear to ear. Gouged out his eyes. He was dead then. I stuck the knife in his belly and held my mouth to his body and drank his blood. I picked up four old potato sacks and gathered a pile of stones. Then I cut him up. I had a grip with me. I put his nose, ears and a few slices of his belly in the grip. Then I cut him through the middle of his body. Just below the belly button. Then through his legs about 2 inches below his behind. I put this in my grip with a lot of paper. I cut off the head, feet, arms, hands and the legs below the knee. This I put in sacks weighed with stones, tied the ends and threw them into the pools of slimy water you will see all along the road going to North Beach. I came home with my meat. I had the front of his body I liked best. His monkey and pee wees and a nice little fat behind to roast in the oven and eat. I made a stew out of his ears, nose, pieces of his face and belly. I put onions, carrots, turnips, celery, salt and pepper. It was good. Then I split the cheeks of his behind open, cut off his monkey and pee wees and washed them first. I put strips of bacon on each cheek of his behind and put them in the oven. Then I picked 4 onions and when the meat had roasted about 1/4 hour, I poured about a pint of water over it for gravy and put in the onions. At frequent intervals I basted his behind with a wooden spoon. So the meat would be nice and juicy. In about 2 hours, it was nice and brown, cooked through. I never ate any roast turkey that tasted half as good as his sweet fat little behind did. I ate every bit of the meat in about four days. His little monkey was a sweet as a nut, but his pee-wees I could not chew. Threw them in the toilet.[4]


Thats just crazy.

Another link:

Pedro López - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_L%C3%B3pez_(serial_killer)

López became notorious as the Monster of the Andes. According to López, his mother, a prostitute with 13 children, caught him fondling his younger sister in 1957 when he was eight years old, and evicted him from the family home. He was then picked up by a pedophile, taken to a deserted house and repeatedly sodomized. He was later taken in by an American family and enrolled in a school for orphans. He allegedly ran away either with a teacher from his school or because he was molested by a teacher. At 18, he was gang-raped in prison and, he claimed, killed three of the rapists while still incarcerated. After his jail term he started preying on young girls in Peru. He later claimed that, by 1978, he had killed over 100 of them. He had been caught by a native tribe, who were preparing to execute him when an American missionary intervened, and persuaded them to hand him over to the state police. The police soon released him. He relocated to Colombia and later Ecuador, killing about three girls a week. López later said "“I like the girls in Ecuador, they are more gentle and trusting, more innocent." The authorities had previously believed the disappearance of so many girls was due to white slavery or prostitution. López was arrested when an attempted abduction went wrong and he was trapped by market traders. He confessed to over 300 murders. The police only believed him when a flash flood uncovered a mass grave of many of his victims.


I doubt these guys would become killers if they hadn't been abused when they were so young.