This blessed Union?

Discussion in 'World Events' started by hypewaders, Feb 25, 2003.

  1. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    'A plan to erect a statue of Abraham Lincoln in Richmond, VA has enraged residents of the former Confederate capital. Detractors say it's the equivalent of placing a statue of Osama bin Laden in NYC. Loy Mauch, a commander of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, said the South could never accept a tribute to "this country's most notorious war criminal... this Marxist... this monster directly responsible for the killing of 620,000 Americans" '

    -THIS WEEK 2/28/2003
    (edit) magazine misquote: It's THE Week

    Maybe if Lincoln could have seen this far in the future, I wonder he would have despaired, and let this nation, conceived in [fear and hatred] perish from the earth.
     
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  3. Persol I am the great and mighty Zo. Registered Senior Member

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    I'd be greatly surprised if this is the majority in Richmond. I went to look for the article, but there are MANY distributions named 'This Week'. Got a link to the full article?
     
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  5. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    By no means a majority - I didn't mean to give that impression. However, if you accumulate the Confederate flag debates, the other FBI (faith-based initiative), and slipping "God" into government officiating, there's a new Dixie a simmerin'

    OOps! I misquoted, sorry: It's The Week. I don't know yet if they post articles, I have the hard copy, and haven't checked..
     
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  7. spacemanspiff czar of things Registered Senior Member

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    YES!!

    i'm never surprised by those kind folk south of the Mason-Dixon line. you guys should visit there, if you're lucky you'll run into a person who still refers to the civil was as "the war of northern agression", insist that the civil war had absolutly nothing at all to do with slavery, and is dumbfounded as to why blacks don't like the confederate flag.

    i miss those rednecks like i miss the plague.
     
  8. Microzoft Registered Senior Member

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    We are a weird, weird land!

    The United States Historical Society has commissioned sculptor David Frech to create a life-size bronze of Lincoln and Tad
    http://www.pnnonline.org/article.php?sid=4141

    We Say NO To the Proposed Lincoln Statue in Richmond..
    http://www.petitiononline.com/noabe/petition.html

    A statue of Lincoln in Richmond is no different than a statue of King George in Washington D.C. or Stalin in Poland. It is offensive and disrespectful. We have now seen the true colors of those who mean to erase the memory of the Confederacy.
    http://www.populuslibertas.com/lincoln.html

    Lincoln in Richmond, Virginia
    A jubilant crowd greets President Abraham Lincoln in Richmond, Virginia, soon after the surrender of the city on April 4, 1865.
    http://www.accesspal.com/virgina/virgin-m.htm

    Lincoln and his war. “Lincoln Reconsidered,”
    http://www.southerncaucus.org/lincoln/
    :m:
     
  9. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    These factors and others are why I suspect when the crunch comes, the "U" could be torn permanently from "SA". I hope somehow the most radical dogs of hate don't have their day when the Feds implode.
     
  10. orthogonal Registered Senior Member

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    I've never understood "Lincoln Worship." Rather than allow the people of the South to determine their own political destiny, this man chose instead to send 400,000 young men to their deaths. Any leader that allows the break-up of the land over which he rules necessarily must accept a demotion of his personal stature. Lincoln's holding the Union together was little more than a kneejerk, self-serving response. To let the South go would have taken real moral character.

    What would have been the harm of letting the South form a separate Confederation? If we could not live with a Confederation to our south, how is it that we so easily tolerate the Canadian Confederation to our north? Please don't interject slavery into the question. The American Civil War began purely as a war of succession. The question of slavery had been around for decades, but it only came to the fore some time after the war had already been in progress. In fact, when the issue of slavery was brought in to play, some contingents of Union soldiers chose to march home rather than to fight in a war to free the slaves.

    I respect a leader that places the good of the people ahead of his own prestige. Mikhail Gorbachev is such a man. He could have held the Soviet Union together had he been sufficiently ruthless. Thankfully, Gorbachev was cut from different cloth than was Lincoln.

    The significance of an imaginary line drawn on a map was worth more to Lincoln than were the lives of nearly half-a-million young men. We ought to be tearing down the existing monuments to this mass murderer; not erecting new ones.

    BTW, this is a Vermont Yankee speaking.

    "To a foreigner; a Yankee is someone living in the United States. To someone living in the United States; a Yankee comes from north of the Mason-Dixon line. To someone living north of the Mason-Dixon line; a Yankee comes from New England. To someone from New England; a Yankee comes from Vermont. To a Vermonter; a Yankee is someone that has apple pie for breakfast."

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    Mmm...I love apple pie for breakfast.

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  11. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    To us'n here in da south, dem's yankees that are born north of I-10

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  12. Microzoft Registered Senior Member

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    Conclusion! Yankee=Unknown origin= Bastard

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  13. Kunax Sciforums:Reality not required Registered Senior Member

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    but a bastard that likes applepie in the morning = a good bastard

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