I am a 22 year old male who has recenently been facinated with the concept and dynamics of war. After reading a few articles on the psychology of suicide bombers, seeing documentaries on soliders in Iraq and Afghanistan camp X-ray etc. befriending ex-prisioners and war veterens and reading books like the art of war. I imagined what it would be like to become a great warrior: a leader of an army and a fearless solider. I have some ideas myself but I'd like to see what others think.
FIRST OF ALL... real warriors use swords.. or their hands. a little girl, can kill with a gun... modern, soilders... kill efficiently with guns, and are called warriors. such would, suggest, that to be a warrior.. all you need to do is kill. this is a mistake. you can.. be a warrior... or... you can be a Paladin, a muslim paladin. a paladin is a godly warrior.. who does no wrong.. and only... only.. only.. only.. kills those who deserve it, and are evil. a paladin cannot kill the innocent. a paladin cannot kill the non-combatant. a paladin... is a true warrior. and is always good, even though he kills. this is an important distinction. whats more... it is easy... easy.. easy... to put on armor, and fight with mighty weapons. it is hard... hard... hard... to take off the armor, and fight with words and reason. our modern world, has transformed from the world of the sword, to the world of debate, and if you can stand victorious with only your words... then you will not need to use your weapons... and you would have won the battle before it has even started. that, would make you an even greater warrior for your GOD. I AM AVATAR GENERAL, of The EMPIRICAL CHURCH, and i am also a MUSLIM on fridays... and i am looking for dedicated strong men, to lead the lords armies to victory... first in the hearts and minds of the people of earth, and second, if needed, with the sword and shield. as of yet... i have met no man or woman with the nerve to do anything. it is easy to speak of being warriors... but warriors.. dont spend time talking of it.. they live it, and others speak of them. -MT http://theempiricalchurch.blogspot.com/ Join with me, and i will arm you will 4 weapons from which there is no defense... They are Love, Reason, Logic, and compassion.!
And real men don't eat quiche. And nice girls wear white panties. What nonsense. However, I applaud your valuation of love, reason, compassion and logic over physical violence.
quiche huh!? had to think about that one for a bit! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
See if it's in the library; http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0671448315/104-0154071-2333569?v=glance&n=283155 But don't pay for it.
Well put. But there are a lot of guys out there who think like the author. They usually talk about football and cars, and buy magazines about football, and cars, that are really softporn. They eat takeaway food, and drink lager from tins, because cooking food that tastes like something, or drinking wine would interfere with them growing their enormous beer bellies. Despite their massive guts, they think all 'bitches' fancy them and they could 'pull' anything. Of course, they buy softporn because they have never slept with a woman who has less than four breasts (two on the front, and two saggy bits on the back) and need to see what slim women look like. Most of them have shaven heads to cover up the fact they are balding, but bald men are more virile, or so bald men say, anyway. But anyway, real men do eat quiche, and they can probably cook it too. Being able to cook, probably gets you lots of nookie. Nookie burns calories, and keeps you slim. It also stimulates the hormones, and that leads to hair growth. Nookie can take 90mins and be played from both ends too. I would go on, but I'm hungry, and I have Cous Cous prepared for lunch. PS, anyone who craps on about 'Warriors' is full of shit.
Facinated with war... Well, it is facinating, but you have to realize there's nothing glamorous about war, nothing. War is nasty, dirty, extremely uncomfortable, damn dangerous, terrifying, and oftimes boring as hell. Its also an unfortunate necessary evil as sometimes one group/nation is doing something that threatens a different group/nation and talking about it isnt doing a damn thing. People can bleat all they want about how nobody should ever go to war for any reason, they'll be bleating all the way up until somebodys hobnailed boot crushes their naive skull because their nation/group has given up their will to push back. Being a soldier is all those things above but with one overriding difference, it is highly rewarding because a soldier in the employ of a nation/group is directly contributing to their society, they are making a direct difference to their nation. Stabilty, health, safety, and strength are just a few of the things they are contributing. The Air Force has Core Values: Integrity first, Service before self, and Excellence in all we do. The other services have very similar values. These are some of the things a warrior needs: Duty; doing what needs to be done, even if you don't like it. Following the lawful orders of those appointed over you. Honor; a personal code of behavior that places the needs of others above your own, doing the best you can possibly do in service of your nation. Doing the right thing because it's the right thing to do, even if there is no possible reward except in knowing you're doing the right thing. Honesty; dealing with yourself and others without deceit in any way Wisdom; knowing the difference between good and evil, how and, more importantly, why your actions are contributing to the good of your nation Lethality; employ instant, extreme violence in the service of your nation A warrior always contributes to the common good, always, even if it means sacrifices on their part, up to and including death. Like it not, a man is defined by what he does, by his actions. You have to decide what and how you will do with your life, that decision will define who you are and what kind of man you will be: Will you contribute to your society? Will you be a parasite on your society? Or will you destroy your society, it all boils down to those three choices.
Maast, while all of those required attributes that you posit might be necessary to serve effectively in a nation's military, they are not the defining characteristics of a warrior. A warrior engages in war. The term makes no reference to social resposibility. I think that you and Mosheh Thezion may have confused 'warrior' with 'Jedi Knight'.
War is beautiful...(sips a cup o coffee). I myself have always fascinated with the strategies of war. The spoils of war, what you are refering to, is what's not so pretty. That's like saying conflcits, negligience, opression, reformation, waste, extortion, inequality, poor living standards, expoitation, opulent wealth, and self deprivation are by-products of capitalism. Of cause not all by-products are very pretty. No I disagree because what is a man left to do when he is left with no choice, in fact your character is determined by the limitations and dynamics of your enviroment. A man is more properly defined by how much power he has, that's when all personalities let rip- when there are no inhibitions. " I am so poor I can't even afford a personality" is nothing new, some people work too long hours to developing a personality, but give a man power and you will see his true color. I did't want to interfere with this thread earlier but what the hell! I personally think the most important thing in thinking like a warrior is to have something strong to stand for, that way even when you die (hope not) your legacy will live longer, like they say "a man can die but an idea can live forever". With enough motivation anybody can do anything, yes anything, Moses would have made that the eleventh comandment if he had enough time before descending down the fucking mountain. You cannot fight an idea and you cannot win a strong idea. I like wars because I like seeing humans coming together for a purpose, its not everytime that happens; once in a while all the living things on the planet stands still and witness how unified and determined man can get, its a thing of beauty.
Islam, what you're describing is a thug with a sharp piece of metal in his hand, out to take as much as he can get by force. If you do not see or wish to see that then I, or somebody like me, will end up shooting you because all you are doing is destroying for your personal gain, like a virulent bacteria eating the body of its host which must be eradicated. War is beautiful my ass, you ever been in one? I have, two actually.
I have to partially disagree, not because some of what you say isn't true, but because of the fact that in today's modern warfare, death comes in so many ways from so many different places it's almost unimaginable. Rifles, pistols, grenades, artillery, mines, tanks, machine guns, snipers, and many more often lurk in places unseen, waiting to wield its death upon the enemy. Today's militaries (generally) have more soldiers than these past military greats' militaries did, and their weapons are more numerous than before. Lets just take a look at the math: Sword Warfare: 50,000 soldiers +1 Sword Each =50,000 opportunities for death at any given time. Modern warfare: 50,000 soldiers +1 Rifle with 28 bullets each +1400000 opportunities for death at any given time. Do you see the difference? I'll post more a little bit later. AmishRakeFight P.S. I believe Alexander the Great was undefeated as well.
LOL . Anyway I personally don't change my sentiments. You said you've been in two wars, thats a lot of motivation whether its for the money or patriotism, thats really what's beautiful not the spoils of war itself. If you were drafted(God that sucks),my sympathies, its the idea behind the whole chaos that matters to me, the deployment and movement of the people. People are stupid and you don't need a degree to know this, war and conflicts are going to happen because of this, so best try to see the silver linings wherever. I don't pray for war but I am not excatly a pacifisct either, for the simple reason that people are stupid and can be arrogant. You just can't spare the rod, even God knew this when he flooded the whole world and killed thousands of souls(if that is true). "the only thing more powerful than a nations army is an idea whose time has come" -Victor Hugo
No he did not lose in India. It was his own troops that forced him to stop his march of conquest, they were tired and wanted to go home (they understood how beautiful war is Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! ) Also nobody defeated Ghengis Khan. This is what you are talking about Ain Jalut All soldiers/warriors are by definition pawns to the cause they are fighting for.
The warrior is defined as 'someone who engages in combat". Combat is defined as 'a battle between individuals/groups'. Everything else involved in the act of fighting is subjective. Ethics/fighting for a cause is subjective. The skill at being a soldier is subjective. Being a non-combatant is subjective and irrelevant (otherwise, there would never be civilian casualties). The act of engaging in combat is what it is- fight-- kill. That being said, If I decided to go the grocery store down the street with an AK47, and shoot a bunch of people, what is the difference between that, and the fighting encountered in a battle during an official war? I mean- wouldn't my grocery store shooting be nothing more than a well executed ambush? Wouldn't it make me a warrior?
