There cannot be a perfect God If there was a divine creator who was infallable, omniscient....blah blah blah, why would he create humans? or a universe for that matter, isn't everything already perfect? he wouldn't do it outta boredom, because he's perfect, he doesn't get bored. He didn't do it to see what would come of it, because he's omnicient.....so why would a god create something?
God is complete not just perfect. Complete covers all the options, including perfect. As an analogy, say you collect baseball cards. Some cards are in mint shape, while others are tattered and in poor shape. This is the complete collection. If we took all the mint cards and placed these in a pile, you own the perfect cards. Perfect is a subset of complete, but not the entire set. If God is omniscient and knows all, he knows the perfect and the imperfect, giving him complete knowledge; omni=all. I think people assume God has to be perfect or he is imperfect. Complete includes both. The tree of knowledge of good and evil confuses this, since it only allows one to be half the knowledge at a time. Neutral/complete allows both; tree of life.
But imperfection shouldn't exist in the realm of god, because there would be nothing to compare against so as to deem something imperfect. and the very same with the word complete. god can't be incomplete, even if he was an unfinished jigsaw puzzle, he would be complete, because he's god, the only one, and there are no other opinions on anything from anyone else, bar god, in his existence. if you believe in god, and u believe he can make mistakes, then that would mean there's a higher authority than that god.
queeg, ''Humans'' (body) represent a certain level (bandwith) of consciousness, meaning the soul has come to a platform (via evolution) where it can understand who and what God is, and who and what it is in relation to God, if it chooses to do so. The universe is the field of activity where conditioned souls can act out their ideas, adopting different bodies which are suitable to material environments. Why souls depart from God in the first place, is a different subject, but one worthy of looking into if you're seriously asking this question. Perfection is a relative term, and is viewed as such or not, from our perspective. God IS the highest standard. Why do governments create prisons? Not out of boredom. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! jan.
Do do have a point here. Take our bodies: they're not perfect, as I found out yesterday when I had to go to the dentist and have my mouth brutalised. Why do we all those rotten diseases starting at aneurysm and ending at zits, and hundreds in between?
Nah i wasn't really asking it seriously. i'm an atheist. religious folk usually ask me how something can come from nothing, so i was just proposing that question to their supposed "perfect" god. i am not attacking anyones religion here, i just wanted to ask a question i know can't be answered. just like the question as to if a god exists can't be answered. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
You have answered your own question. Can something be deemed perfect that is not expressed, cannot be compared to imperfection, and cannot be examined by anything other than a singular, subjective perspective? Creation would seem to merely actualize any such perfection.
I'm not sure that saying that God is perfect even makes sense. Perfection suggests satisfying some standard in such a way that there's no way that the standard hasn't been met. It might even go further than that, by suggesting that the standard that's been met is the best possible standard. So what standard is God satisfying such that he's perfect? Theists usually want to argue that there isn't any standard external to God that God must meet in order to be perfect, but rather that God himself is the standard. Which leaves the seemingly informative proposition that 'God is perfect' more or less synonymous with the tautological 'God is God'.
Why (and how) would change ever occur if God is Being itself, outside time entirely, and complete unity and perfection? It seems like God would just be a timeless, unchanging (and necessarily impersonal) stasis.
