The war on freedom

Discussion in 'World Events' started by m0rl0ck, Aug 7, 2002.

  1. m0rl0ck Consume! Conform! Obey! Registered Senior Member

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    http://www.aclu.org/congress/l102301g.html

    Would allow any federal agency to evesdrop on any communication without probable cause or warrant.

    Or this:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50845-2002Aug6.html

    The executive branch gets to decide who gets due process and who doesnt.

    Also the bush administration is seeking immunity for americans from war crimes as defined by the world court.
    Lets not forget TIPS, anyone can inform on anyone.

    Lets put all this together.

    Someone informs on you. The fbi taps your phone, puts a sniffer on your internet account, maybe finds something a little suspcious, visits your job talks to your neighbors and coworkers, brings you in for questioning, doesnt like the way you look and never charges you but never lets you go because your an enemy combatant. Because your an enemy cambatant you have no due process rights and because the US is exempt from prosecution in the world court for war crimes you have no recourse under international law either.
    This is the way things stand now. You can bet itll get worse.

    This isnt about stopping terrorism either, the administration had plenty of warning for 9/11, the Rowley memo, the nsa, and a host of other warnings were available
    ( see http://democrats.com/elandslide/petition.cfm?campaign=911 )
    this is about getting those pesky civil rights out of the way so that this government can run like the proper oil corporation that it really is.

    Maybe, as ineptly as it was handled, there was an excuse to hunt down al-queada, it looks like all that happened was that they were dispersed (last i read they were looking in 80 countries for them), maybe it wasnt all about getting an oil pipeline through afghanistan to the central asian oil reserves, but why are american citizens systematically having their rights stripped from them?
    To gather information about possible terror attacks? It seems to be turning out now that their was plenty of warning for 9/11 and for whatever reason the warnings did no good. We are quickly becoming what we profess to hate, a terrorist police state.
     

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