The physics of the Force

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  1. Forceman May the force be with you Registered Senior Member

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    Is it possible that the Force and the use of it can have any physics behind it?
     
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  3. Forceman May the force be with you Registered Senior Member

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    The Force

    Is it possible that The Force has any physics behind it?
     
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  5. AlphaNumeric Fully ionized Registered Senior Member

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    No.

    Next!
     
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  7. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Try asking once instead of three times. Please do not cross-post to different forums.
     
  8. siphra Registered Senior Member

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    Well its fictional; BUT.

    Lets say that Midichlorians had the ability to interact with Electromagnetic and Gravitational fields. Then many of the abilities shown could be possible I suppose. I mean the midichlorians would have to interact and focus these fields.
     
  9. Rhaedas Valued Senior Member

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    There's a physical law of Ricks.

    "**** you, Rick Berman! You ruined this too! Stop ruining...Wait a minute, you're not Rick Berman...what is it with Ricks?"
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  10. Rav Valued Senior Member

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    George Lucas doesn't know WTF he is talking anymore. The only plausible explanation for the timeless brilliance of the original trilogy is that he was somehow lucky enough to be on the receiving end of divine inspiration provided by some trans-galactic consciousness. Star Wars is a true story you see. The events portrayed in the three original movies actually did occur a long time ago in a galaxy far far away (although some liberties were taken for increased dramatic effect).

    Star Wars 34:23-30 (A New Hope, original 1977 edition) tells us:

    "The Force is what gives a Jedi his power. It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together."

    All living things. This midichlorian nonsense is nothing more than the confused ramblings of a senile old man.

    The new movies are reasonable entertaining, sure. But they are only movies and do not represent things that actually happened. It's important to realize this so we are not led away from the truth.
     
  11. siphra Registered Senior Member

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    :bugeye:
     
  12. George1 Registered Senior Member

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    Midichlorians are highly misconceived. they are NOT the force, but rather an indicator, a byproduct if you will, of the Force.
     
  13. George1 Registered Senior Member

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    ok......:bugeye:
     
  14. George1 Registered Senior Member

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    if you want a long and accurate description of everything known about the force, i suggest this page:
    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force
     
  15. siphra Registered Senior Member

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    Ep 1: Qui-gon clearly states that they are what create the force.
     
  16. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Midichlorians do not create the force...

    They simply allow you to manipulate it.

    Problem solved, GG.

    And, no, the Force (and indeed, any other form of telekinesis) is IMPOSSIBLE for one simple fact:

    You are attempting to move an object with your BRAIN. Newton said, quite simply, that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

    You pick up a (for arguments sake) 1 ton X-Wing with your "force powers".

    You require at LEAST one ton of force to lift said X-Wing.

    Congratulations, you now have ONE TON smushing your brain into a fine grey paste at the bottom of your skull...

    /thread
     
  17. Me-Ki-Gal Banned Banned

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    My buddy did the stain glass work for Lucas films and it was just all hard work ! No telekinesis involved at all. Magic yes. The Magic of the artist
     
  18. George1 Registered Senior Member

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    he did not said they create them, but that life is impossible without them and that they help communicate with the Force.

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Midi-chlorian
     
  19. HeartlessCapitalist Ravager of Biotopes Registered Senior Member

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    Short answer: No.

    Somewhat longer answer: Telekinesis violates the basic physical laws of conservation of energy and momentum. Precognition violates the principle of causality. So both of these are downright contradicted by physics. Telepathy does not necessarily violate gross laws of physics, but would be very difficult to conceive of as working usefully on known physical principles. So on that count it's a "Maybe," but skeptical.

    If you need to call it something "close" to physics, electromagnetic manipulation can account for the telekinesis effects most of the time. It still does nothing for the fundamental issues of energy and momentum, though. Nor does it explain how such a mechanism would be controlled.
     
  20. George1 Registered Senior Member

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    the force is a metaphysical energy field. it is treated by both the Jedi and Sith as a sentient entity, with its own will.
    now, my point is that, it probably dose has a physical explanation behind, one that is:
    a) far to complex to be understand in..."lower plains of existence", like in Stargate, with the Ancients, or

    b) physical laws in SW are a little bit different, and the Force is as normal as electromagnetism and gravity, making Obi-Wan's statement of "binding the galaxy together" (galaxy=a term most likely used for the Universe, like someone using "world" for everything in existence) having sense, and the Force is a fifth fundamental force in the SW universe, or

    c) MAGIC

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  21. siphra Registered Senior Member

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    Not if there is some energy source, i.e. what if it were some form of EM energy that causes it. Then as long as the measurable change was equal to, or less than the amount of energy expended conservation would still hold.


    The same arguement could be made for entangled particles, even though WE can not gain any information out of them, they are exchanging information with eachother, in addition there has been recently a report indicating the possibility of entanglement through time.

    Let's take a look, the human mind works by electrochemical signals, and electrical pathways, moving electrons produce EM radiation, telepathy would require only an organ that can detect, and translate such radiation (Provided it can penetrate the human body.)


    But FTR I agree with you.
     

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