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Brian Foley 06-09-06, 09:46 PM America set up the special forces Task Force 145 (http://counterterrorismblog.org/2006/04/zarqawi_and_task_force_145_.php) to specifically hunt and track Mr Al-Zarqawi . And accordingly this
Attack was trumpeted to be at the courtesy of Task Force 145 and on the day of the big event for task force 145 :
a witness in the village of Hibhib (http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/06/09/news/raid.php) said he saw :
" U.S. soldiers began swarming around the town, with some of the soldiers sliding down ropes dropped from Blackhawk helicopters.The entire village was seized," he saidThen Al Zarqawi came out with guns blazing As the U.S. commandos took up positions, Ismael said, someone from inside the house in the date grove began shooting. The Americans returned fire, Ismael said, but the gun battle did not last long. And what did Task Force 145 , the elite military Special Ops force of the US occupational army do ? One of the F-16s, in position over Hibhib, released a laser-guided 500-pound bomb. Seconds later, Ismael said, a second bomb landed on the house. What an end Task Force 145 with their Iraqi security collaborators complete with black hoods to mask their identities from other Iraqis invaded the village where he was holed up in and after a brief gun battle US special forces decided to call in an airstrike to kill him!!!
! ! CHICKENS !!
spiritual_spy 06-09-06, 09:52 PM Wow its no more cowardly than a terrorist walking into a crowd of innocent people and blowing himself up.
UNIVERSE TODAY 06-09-06, 10:04 PM I'm just amazed they hit their intended target for once. That's practically unheard of. Even back in Nam they were shelling their own troops more than they were Charlie. When they weren't traipsing through the jungle with ghetto blasters going full bore. How did the troops find him? Did they switch off their ghetto blasters long enough to ask a local Iraqi where the bad guys lived?
The biggest Terrorist in the World is Bush. Thank goodness the little dictator will be out on his ear soon. Can't wait for the impeachment trials to begin. I'll have to stock up on popcorn before tuning into that.
One more martyr to draw fresh freedom fighters to the ranks of Al Qaeda. Even the West hates America now.
Brian Foley 06-09-06, 10:22 PM Wow its no more cowardly than a terrorist walking into a crowd of innocent people and blowing himself up.
Wow man ! Terrorists wouldnt be detonating themselves in shopping malls if their oppressors didnt go around dropping 500kg bombs into crowded neighbourhoods killing their families ! That is the example America sets and that is what America must accept .
I'm just amazed they hit their intended target for once. That's practically unheard of. Even back in Nam they were shelling their own troops more than they were Charlie. When they weren't traipsing through the jungle with ghetto blasters going full bore. How did the troops find him? Did they switch off their ghetto blasters long enough to ask a local Iraqi where the bad guys lived?
I think they knew where he was all along , to my understanding he was a convenient jack in the box to keep the audience on feet in anticipation . The intelligence offered by the military leading to his pin pointing looked very contrived .
The biggest Terrorist in the World is Bush. Thank goodness the little dictator will be out on his ear soon. Can't wait for the impeachment trials to begin. I'll have to stock up on popcorn before tuning into that.
The biggest terrorist for Americans to know is the US Financial/Industrial corporation complex which rules America . Not Bush as he is simply their figure head or sock puppet .
One more martyr to draw fresh freedom fighters to the ranks of Al Qaeda. Even the West hates America now.
And operation freedom carries on without Mr Zarqawi as bloody as ever .
4 contractors working for Army Corps killed in Iraq (http://www.al.com/news/huntsvilletimes/index.ssf?/base/news/1149844682319270.xml&coll=1)
Graduate from Minturn's Battle Mountain dies in Iraq (http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/ap_alaska/story/7814373p-7728736c.html)
DoD Identifies Army Casualties (http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/2006/nr20060608-13213.html)
The Department of Defense announced today the death of two soldiers who were supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.
mountainhare 06-10-06, 03:22 AM spiritual:
Wow its no more cowardly than a terrorist walking into a crowd of innocent people and blowing himself up.
1. How exactly does this apply to Zarqawi? Obviously Zarqawi wasn't a terrorist who blew himself up in a crowd of innocent people, as he was alive until he was bombed. In fact, his last action was to fight against armed soldiers who outnumbered and outgunned him. So your attempted comparison of Zarqawi to a suicide bomber is flawed. If anything, his death was hero like.
2. Tu quoque logic fallacy. Even if we assume your premises are factually correct, this doesn't make the acts of the U.S right.
TW Scott 06-10-06, 03:37 AM No, Zarqawi was worse than a coward. He himself did not have the guts to do suicide bombing. he convinced other to do it. He convinced others to construct roadside bombs. He convinced other to perpetrate attacks against civillian targets. All he did himself was behead tied down men and women. His last desperate attempt to live was not brave it was merely the last acts of a man who is now sitting in hell.
spiritual_spy 06-10-06, 03:41 AM spiritual:
1. How exactly does this apply to Zarqawi? Obviously Zarqawi wasn't a terrorist who blew himself up in a crowd of innocent people, as he was alive until he was bombed. In fact, his last action was to fight against armed soldiers who outnumbered and outgunned him. So your attempted comparison of Zarqawi to a suicide bomber is flawed. If anything, his death was hero like.
2. Tu quoque logic fallacy. Even if we assume your premises are factually correct, this doesn't make the acts of the U.S right.
1.I was reffering to the terrorists over all. Since foley wants to call our troops cowards for bombing the hell out of his building i offered a fair comparison.
2.I didnt say anything was right or wrong.
funkstar 06-10-06, 05:16 AM "Zarqawi the defender of Fallujah".
Foley hates americans so much that he will glorify a man who is probably responsible for killing hundreds, if not thousands of innocents iraqis. What a strange, hatefilled world he must live in, where such a perverse approach to morality makes sense...
The really, really nice thing about this whole thing is that the last faces al-Zarqawi saw before he died were the infidel faces of American GIs!...
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Sock puppet path 06-10-06, 08:28 AM The really, really nice thing about this whole thing is that the last faces al-Zarqawi saw before he died were the infidel faces of American GIs!...
That is funny :D
deicide128 06-10-06, 09:54 AM being "chicken" or intelligent as most of us know it is how you play war. You cant win a war if all your people are dead. Lets face it fooley is crazy and beyond reason perhaps a spinal tap would clear his dementia.
This is amazingly surprising - a man responsible for killing hundreds of civilians is honoured by the likes of Brian Foley - an Israel-hater - and his friend mountainhare - a Jew-hater.
Actually, I guess it's not that surprising after all.
"Came out with guns blazing" - LOL! What, from behind the stone wall?
Foley's not a socialist; he's an anarchist. Mountainhare/HH8H is just a Nazi.
Geoff
I believe al-Zarqawi favored chopping victims heads off.
I doubt the Berg family think that his demise was unjust.
Fraggle Rocker 06-10-06, 12:23 PM Warriors can be honored. A warrior makes himself easy to indentify in order to minimize the chances of his enemy killing his own civilians by mistake or out of desperation; he does not hide like a coward by blending in with his own civilian population. A warrior attacks military targets or at least targets with high military strategic value; he does not attack civilian targets merely because they are less well defended and he has more chance of getting away with it. A warrior attacks his enemy's soldiers who are attacking him; he does not attack his enemy's civilians, particularly not those of no value to the military effort, just because they can't shoot back. And a warrior does not attack the civilians in his own population, because a warrior's purpose in life is precisely to defend those who cannot defend themselves.
Zarqawi fails to satisfy every definition of a warrior. He was a terrorist who fought without honor. He was motivated by hatred and racism. Also by a sense of superiority to which he claimed he was entitled because of his corrupted and psychotic interpretation of a religion which preaches peace and tolerance.
Zarqawi was a terrorist. Terrorist attacks are not justified by any civilized nation under any circumstances. They are only practiced or condoned by nations such as the Third Reich or Pol Pot's Cambodia as they decline from a state of civilization into a state of pre-modernity. And by smaller communities that fail to achieve nationhood precisely because of their unwillingness to conform to the universal rules of civilized behavior, including those governing the use of deadly force.
By the standards of civilized nations, which universally define the unlawful taking of life as the most evil of crimes, terrorists are therefore the most evil of criminals. By those same standards the most extreme measures may lawfully be taken to defeat them. This includes the collateral deaths of people who knowingly and voluntarily associate with them, thereby providing support, concealment, and sanctuary, so long as those deaths are carefully weighed in advance and properly investigated afterwards.
I am second to no one in my revulsion over my country's conduct in the Middle East. It has performed many reprehensible deeds since the Bush Dynasty's first attack on Iraq more than fifteen years ago, and indeed its record goes back much further than that. But the elimination of Zarqawi was not one of those reprehensible deeds. It was just and necessary, and it appears to have been accomplished with the bare minimum of collateral deaths.
The USA has finally done something right.
spuriousmonkey 06-10-06, 12:24 PM George Bush also hides behinds civilians.
Fraggle Rocker 06-10-06, 12:26 PM George Bush also hides behinds civilians.Yes but two wrongs never make a right. Enough wrongs in a row can bring down civilization.
spuriousmonkey 06-10-06, 12:27 PM Yep. Both parties are irresponsible and wrong.
firecross 06-10-06, 02:43 PM No, Zarqawi was worse than a coward. He himself did not have the guts to do suicide bombing. he convinced other to do it. He convinced others to construct roadside bombs. He convinced other to perpetrate attacks against civillian targets.
George Bush doesn't walk around Iraq pointing guns at the people he is attacking after having invaded their country.
Instead he convinces pilots to bravely drop bombs on people's houses.
I wish America would stop being so easy on those Arabs and whatnot in Iraq. We should behave like the terrorists and blow up civilians on purpose. Target 'em, you know? Give em a little taste of their own medicine. I'd be in favor of reducing the entire country to rubble. You know, just to send all those ragheads the message that if they want to be dickholes, we can be dickholes on a far larger scale.
The nice part is, all the ragheads can do is blow eachother up in little rinky-dink explosions that they salvaged from Soviet arm stock while America can manufactur 500lb bombs, or 10,000 lb bombs. If it ever came down to who could blow up more civilians, the US has the obvious advantage. We should bloody take the advantage, reduce Iraq and Iran to ash, and give Brian something to really gibber about.
I disagree a little fundamentally with the above: there is nothing explicitly honourable or dishonourable about being a "warrior", whatever in hell that is. There are simply those who display some range of variation in behaviour. Zarqawi is, of course, on the extreme, and of course deserved death. Ultimately of course, the future will only concern itself with ends, not means.
Geoff
Fraggle Rocker 06-10-06, 03:22 PM We should behave like the terrorists and blow up civilians on purpose.Refer to my previous posting. Two wrongs don't make a right. That's not just a moral statement, but a practical one. While there are no valid absolute statements (including this one of course), responding to an act of evil with an act of evil will never, in the long run, reduce the amount of evil in the world.
Brian Foley 06-10-06, 03:43 PM No, Zarqawi was worse than a coward. He himself did not have the guts to do suicide bombing. he convinced other to do it. He convinced others to construct roadside bombs. He convinced other to perpetrate attacks against civillian targets. All he did himself was behead tied down men and women. His last desperate attempt to live was not brave it was merely the last acts of a man who is now sitting in hell.
Al Zarqawi was a leader who fought the US invasion of Falujah , in fact Zarqawi was in Fallujah right to the end and escaped the US invaders . He did not have to convince any other Iraqi to attack targets of the occupier as every soldier in the Iraqi army of liberation is there voluntarily serving his nation . Al Zarqawi was in my opinion a soldier who with true conviction of his belief that he was liberating Iraq from US economic subjugation and exploitation . May he rest in peace .
"Zarqawi the defender of Fallujah".
Foley hates americans so much that he will glorify a man who is probably responsible for killing hundreds, if not thousands of innocents iraqis. What a strange, hatefilled world he must live in, where such a perverse approach to morality makes sense...
You mean the propaganda stories from Americas media ? Strange that a man supposedly responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent Iraqis was only sold out by a rogue informant not by the Iraqi people . It was the common Iraqis who sheilded him and protected him for 3 years from Americans , strange behaviour would you not say if he was a sociopathic mass murderer , this shows their devotion to him .
The really, really nice thing about this whole thing is that the last faces al-Zarqawi saw before he died were the infidel faces of American GIs!...
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The really nice thing about is that Zarqawi went down fighting and a supposedly elite US unit backed off after a gun battle and had to call in an air strike , jerks . What those Americans saw was the face of a brave soldier . And whats more indicative of official cowardice is after they pulled him half dead from the rubble they beat him :Iraqi witness: U.S. troops may have beaten wounded al-Zarqawi before he died (http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=d4c45fad-0bf8-4747-bd5b-d1378ac95f7c&k=72919)
BAGHDAD (AP) - U.S. officials have altered their account of the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, saying he was alive and partly conscious after bombs destroyed his hideout, and an Iraqi witness has raised the possibility that the wounded "al-Qaida in Iraq" leader was beaten by American troops before he died.
The witness, who lived near the scene of the bombing, claimed in an interview with AP Television News to have seen U.S. soldiers beating an injured man resembling al-Zarqawi until blood flowed from the man's nose.
Kicking a man who is down on his back how low can you get ?
being "chicken" or intelligent as most of us know it is how you play war. You cant win a war if all your people are dead.
Well you better inform sthe Iraqi resistance because its business as usual .
1 Soldier killed, 1 wounded by IED (http://www.mnf-iraq.com/Releases/2006-06/060610b.htm)
One 101 st Sustainment Brigade Soldier was killed and one was wounded by an improvised explosive device while conducting a combat logistics patrol at about 12:55 a.m. June 9, west of Kirkuk , Iraq .
DefenseLink (http://www.defenselink.mil/relea...0609-/)
Spc. Luis D. Santos, 20, of Rialto, Calif., died in Buritz, Iraq, on June 8, of injuries sustained when an improvised explosive device detonated near his HMMWV during combat operations. Santos was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 68th Armor Regiment, 3rd Heavy Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colo.
Lets face it fooley is crazy and beyond reason perhaps a spinal tap would clear his dementia.
Well then makethe demented Fooley eat his words and enlist !
US Army and Army Reserve Recruiting (http://www.goarmy.com/flindex.jsp)
Maybe you also could be turned into a human popsicle by the Iraqi resistance ROFL
This is amazingly surprising - a man responsible for killing hundreds of civilians is honoured by the likes of Brian Foley
Right , sure America claims all he did was murder innocent Iraqis , yeah Im convinced . The same nations media which lied about Iraqs WMD ,the same US media that lied about Iraqs links to Al Qaeda the same US media that lied about Iraqs atomic bomb , the same US media that lied about Iraqs ties to 9/11 and this same US media clais Zarqawi just kills innocent Iraqis and Geoff goes for it hook line and sinker .
Brian Foley - an Israel-hater
Thank you I entrirely agree .
"Came out with guns blazing" - LOL! What, from behind the stone wall?
Generally shots a traded through windows when houses come under siege .
Foley's not a socialist; he's an anarchist. Mountainhare/HH8H is just a Nazi.
And Geoff simply is a racist :
A New Dark Age Is Dawning (http://librabunda.blogspot.com/)
At the moment, there are far too few Jews in Europe to worry about their existence there. Muslims, on the other hand, live in Europe in millions; further, their numbers are growing apace. Today, these are the people Europeans worry about, not Jews.
If something isn’t done about the Muslim problem in Europe in the near future, the names Treblinka, Auschwitz-Birkenau, and Dachau will not be far from the minds of many Europeans. What happened once can happen again. Osama bin Laden would be wise to take heed!
This was a story from one of Geoffs sources nice huh !
I believe al-Zarqawi favored chopping victims heads off.
I doubt the Berg family think that his demise was unjust.
If America was not in Iraq doing what it has been doing the Berg families son would still be alive .
spuriousmonkey 06-10-06, 03:58 PM I wish America would stop being so easy on those Arabs and whatnot in Iraq.
There aren't many arabs in iraq.
firecross 06-10-06, 04:34 PM Al Zarqawi was a leader who fought the US invasion of Falujah , in fact Zarqawi was in Fallujah right to the end and escaped the US invaders . He did not have to convince any other Iraqi to attack targets of the occupier as every soldier in the Iraqi army of liberation is there voluntarily serving his nation . Al Zarqawi was in my opinion a soldier who with true conviction of his belief that he was liberating Iraq from US economic subjugation and exploitation . May he rest in peace.
I wonder if Americans would fight back if the Chinese invaded and occupied the U.S.
Anyone who fights back against occupation forces is a "terrorist", but the U.S. was founded on terrorism and resistance to British occupation. People like Paul Revere spread dangerous information, while rogue forces plotted to gain freedom from the occupiers, and military tactics such as shooting British officers and asymetrical warfare were used against standard war convention.
Will the Americans sit as docile sheep in their houses when the Chinese invade? It would be a bad show to resist with violence when they have made so much talk about being a peaceful and rational people.
Brian Foley 06-10-06, 04:41 PM I wish America would stop being so easy on those Arabs and whatnot in Iraq.
We should behave like the terrorists and blow up civilians on purpose.
America does that already :
50 Iraqis die as US jets bomb Samarra (http://www.ccmep.org/2004_articles/iraq/081504_50_iraqis_die_as_us_jets_bomb_sa.htm)
U.S. Jets Bomb Fallujah (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137551,00.html)
Christ knows how many are dead ?
Target 'em, you know? Give em a little taste of their own medicine.
You mean medice like this ?
"I think it is a very hard choice. But the price-we think the price is worth it."
-U.S. Secretary of State Madeline Albright, when asked about U.S. sanctions killing half a million Iraqi children.
60 Minutes, 5/12/96 (http://www.ratm.com/new2/iraq.html)
I'd be in favor of reducing the entire country to rubble. You know, just to send all those ragheads the message that if they want to be dickholes, we can be dickholes on a far larger scale.
Devastated Iraq (http://www.lewrockwell.com/engelhardt/engelhardt33.html)
Measure Iraq any way you want and it adds up to disaster: Less electricity is now being delivered than in the Saddam Hussein years; infant malnourishment has, according to a Norwegian study, doubled in the same time period ("It's on the level of some African countries," says the deputy director of the institute that conducted the study); attacks on the country's oil infrastructure are now so severe that no oil whatsoever is leaving the country heading north; there are far more insurgents and sympathizers (over 200,000 and growing) than American troops in the country, according to a recent estimate by Iraq's national intelligence chief; new plans with a distinctly Vietnam-ish ring to them are being developed to place sizeable numbers of American "advisers" with newly trained Iraqi military units that are under siege and crumbling (to "bolster the Iraqi will to fight") – and that just scratches the surface of this moment.
The Iraq resistance has a long way to catch up .
The nice part is, all the ragheads can do is blow eachother up in little rinky-dink explosions that they salvaged from Soviet arm stock while America can manufactur 500lb bombs, or 10,000 lb bombs. If it ever came down to who could blow up more civilians, the US has the obvious advantage. We should bloody take the advantage, reduce Iraq and Iran to ash, and give Brian something to really gibber about.
The nice part is this :
"We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy."
Osama bin Laden Oct 2004
Will the United States' efforts to secure its homeland cause its bankruptcy?
Iraq war is costing $100,000 per minute (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2002780385_spending03.html)
WASHINGTON — The White House said Thursday that it plans to ask Congress for an additional $70 billion to pay for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, driving the cost of military operations in the two countries to $120 billion this year, the highest ever.
My money is on Al Qaeda ;)
Brian Foley 06-10-06, 04:45 PM I wonder if Americans would fight back if the Chinese invaded and occupied the U.S.
I hope they would and those who do would be sold out by the likes of those on this forum who avidly back this current war against humanity .
Anyone who fights back against occupation forces is a "terrorist", but the U.S. was founded on terrorism and resistance to British occupation. People like Paul Revere spread dangerous information, while rogue forces plotted to gain freedom from the occupiers, and military tactics such as shooting British officers and asymetrical warfare were used against standard war convention.
The Nazis referred to the Polish resistance as terrorists .
Will the Americans sit as docile sheep in their houses when the Chinese invade? It would be a bad show to resist with violence when they have made so much talk about being a peaceful and rational people.
Very true , lets hope there are plenty who say NO to oppression if such an event occurs .
There aren't many arabs in iraq.
And even fewer in Iran. But there's a whole lot of whatnot. Terrorist whatnot scum.
bullshit
The difference between America and you Muslim trash is that America doesn't purposefully target innocents. Our leaders aren't telling the troops to target schools and bus stops and cafes. They're trained hard to avod that stuff. It just happens that war is messy, and there will be civilian causulties, especially when civilians are used as shields by cowardly terrorists.
50 Iraqis die as US jets bomb Samarra
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Only 50. In a city full of ragheads. Either the US military is entirely inept, or we're not actually targeting civilians on purpose.
Here's my suggestion for US leaders:
Kill Iraqi civilians with extreme prejudice. I mean, come on, 50 accidental civilian deaths? That's a Palestinian suicide bomber on a good day. A very good day. And Americans are so far ahead of you backwards sand negros that we should be able to blow up at least 5,000 in a bombing campaign. At the very least.
Sock puppet path 06-10-06, 06:44 PM OMG Roman stop it if I laugh any more I will hurt myself.
BTW Zarqawi was a pussy and now he's dead :D
Yeah. He's a dead pussy. Way to die like a pussy, Zarqawi!
leopold99 06-10-06, 07:15 PM You mean the propaganda stories from Americas media ? Strange that a man supposedly responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent Iraqis was only sold out by a rogue informant not by the Iraqi people .
i don't think the iraqi people knew where he was hiding
and of course it only takes one solid lead.
crazy151drinker 06-10-06, 09:52 PM "Kicking a man who is down on his back how low can you get ?"
and yet you worship a coward who cut off the heads of tied up civilians...
Redefine91 06-10-06, 10:28 PM Here's my suggestion for US leaders:
Kill Iraqi civilians with extreme prejudice. I mean, come on, 50 accidental civilian deaths? That's a Palestinian suicide bomber on a good day. A very good day. And Americans are so far ahead of you backwards sand negros that we should be able to blow up at least 5,000 in a bombing campaign. At the very least.
To Expand on that (I wholeheartedly agree) We also need to show no hesitation in blowing up mosques and other religious sites. It's shown that when in danger, insurgents will flee to muslim holy buildings because US soldiers are strictly told not to attack them. Blowing up Achmeds little safe zone would probably slow down his enthusiam at targeting our soldiers.
Sounds like the same logic used by the terrorists who bombed the twin towers; didn't work for them, did it?
Redefine91 06-10-06, 10:37 PM Sounds like the same logic used by the terrorists who bombed the twin towers; didn't work for them, did it?
1.) They were not at war with us at the time of the bombing.
2.) Last I checked the World Trade center was not a religious building and it wasn't taboo for attack because an attack was foiled a few years earlier.
3.) In a way it did work for the terrorists. They wanted to kill thousands and scare the nation. They killed thousands and they made the nation so afraid of terrorism that we devised a warning system the resembles my 8 year old sisters crayola crayon box.
Terrorists don't have the resources to bring the West to its knees except by using very low and cowardly tactics. Were the US to engage in such lowly and cowardly tactics whole heartedly and for just one day, we could eliminate all life on earth! Think of the beauty of our planet, basked in a the radioactive glow of a nuclear winter!
The sad truth is, that is not such a remote possibility anymore
mountainhare 06-11-06, 12:46 AM Brian:
The Nazis referred to the Polish resistance as terrorists .
;) Quite right!
The Soviets also referred to the Afghanis as terrorists. Although the U.S didn't agree at the time...
Sock:
BTW Zarqawi was a pussy and now he's dead
Roman:
Yeah. He's a dead pussy. Way to die like a pussy, Zarqawi
Sort of like those U.S soldiers who whined and cried before they got their heads cut off? They join the army, but they can't take the consequences. Bunch of fucking crybabies! :D
Don't I reach some interesting conclusions when I used your fucked up logic?
Alejandro 06-11-06, 12:54 AM ~Bravo~
you can petition the Lord
with prayer
Petition the Lord with prayer
Petition the Lord with prayer
You cannot petition the Lord
with prayer------------------------
Foely who the hell you think you are=--MaMax
PS- that supposed quote you posted, in didnt even have to read it to kbow your lying through your gren teth again.
Brian Foley 06-11-06, 02:31 AM The difference between America and you Muslim trash is that America doesn't purposefully target innocents. Our leaders aren't telling the troops to target schools and bus stops and cafes. They're trained hard to avod that stuff. It just happens that war is messy, and there will be civilian causulties, especially when civilians are used as shields by cowardly terrorists.
Your right America is different they just simply starve children to death with a clear conscience .
"I think it is a very hard choice. But the price-we think the price is worth it."
-U.S. Secretary of State Madeline Albright, when asked about U.S. sanctions killing half a million Iraqi children.
60 Minutes, 5/12/96 (http://www.ratm.com/new2/iraq.html)
I just reposted that quote seeing you missed it .
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Only 50. In a city full of ragheads. Either the US military is entirely inept, or we're not actually targeting civilians on purpose.
You want more examples ? When America isnt obliterating innocent Iraqis on their way to work they are simply murdering innocent Iraqis for having Fun !!!
US attacks wedding party, kills 41 Iraqis (http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-05/20/content_332141.htm)
A U.S. aircraft fired on a house in the desert near the Syrian border Wednesday, and Iraqi officials said more than 41 people were killed, including children.
Cowardly deeds worthy of war criminals .
Here's my suggestion for US leaders:
Kill Iraqi civilians with extreme prejudice. I mean, come on, 50 accidental civilian deaths? That's a Palestinian suicide bomber on a good day. A very good day. And Americans are so far ahead of you backwards sand negros that we should be able to blow up at least 5,000 in a bombing campaign. At the very least.
Heres my suggestion , get the Fuck out of Iraq and mind your own Fucking business . And dont blame the victims when they blow US soldiers out their own assholes afterall the soldiers of the Iraqi liberation are doing their duty .
Yeah. He's a dead pussy. Way to die like a pussy, Zarqawi!
Trying to put on a brave face are you ? What part of cowardice dont you understand the fact that the US special ops after getting a face full of lead from a lone freedom fighter scampered and ran like the chickens they are and called in an airstrike ROFL . Zarqawi died a soldier .
i don't think the iraqi people knew where he was hiding
and of course it only takes one solid lead.
He was living in a village in Iraq and travelling around with the help of other Iraqis they all knew where he was . The fact none of them ratted him out for 3 years shows the respect and standing this man had from the Iraqi people .
and yet you worship a coward who cut off the heads of tied up civilians...
Yeah right and how do you explain Zarqawis defence of Fallujah where he fought to the end and escaped the US ? That was an act of bravery , as for the hostages this is war those that seek to profit on the backs of the exploited people of Iraq must be dealt with . The aid workers who are being killed is by Americans attempting to intimidate them out of Iraq .
Brian:
;) Quite right!
I know :)
The Soviets also referred to the Afghanis as terrorists. Although the U.S didn't agree at the time...
True and whose child was Al Qaeda ?
How the CIA created Osama bin Laden (http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/CIA_Created_Osama.htm)
“Throughout the world ... its agents, client states and satellites are on the defensive — on the moral defensive, the intellectual defensive, and the political and economic defensive. Freedom movements arise and assert themselves. They're doing so on almost every continent populated by man — in the hills of Afghanistan, in Angola, in Kampuchea, in Central America ... [They are] freedom fighters.”
Is this a call to jihad (holy war) taken from one of Islamic fundamentalist Osama bin Laden's notorious fatwas? Or perhaps a communique issued by the repressive Taliban regime in Kabul?
In fact, this glowing praise of the murderous exploits of today's supporters of arch-terrorist bin Laden and his Taliban collaborators, and their holy war against the “evil empire”, was issued by US President Ronald Reagan on March 8, 1985. The “evil empire” was the Soviet Union, as well as Third World movements fighting US-backed colonialism, apartheid and dictatorship.
How things change. In the aftermath of a series of terrorist atrocities — the most despicable being the mass murder of more than 6000 working people in New York and Washington on September 11 — bin Laden the “freedom fighter” is now lambasted by US leaders and the Western mass media as a “terrorist mastermind” and an “evil-doer”.
Yet the US government refuses to admit its central role in creating the vicious movement that spawned bin Laden, the Taliban and Islamic fundamentalist terrorists that plague Algeria and Egypt — and perhaps the disaster that befell New York.
The mass media has also downplayed the origins of bin Laden and his toxic brand of Islamic fundamentalism.
Foely who the hell you think you are=--MaMax
Yes
PS- that supposed quote you posted, in didnt even have to read it to kbow your lying through your gren teth again.
I thought I told you not to post after you have taken your medication .
Heres my suggestion
And here's mine:
We stop playing softball with you sand niggers and start lobbing real warheads. It's quite obvious that you're all backwards savages and only understand force. It is quite unfortunate that America has the morality and Christians (Jesus bless 'em) to not bring the full might of the West against you filthy mongrels.
Who cares what Zarqwad died? He still died. All you terrorist shits can kill are civilians and grunts. Do you want applause or something for your "resistance"?
Chickens or not, I dont care how anyone kills evil, but it shall be done with any way possible.
Sock puppet path 06-11-06, 10:27 AM Brian:
Sock:
Roman:
Sort of like those U.S soldiers who whined and cried before they got their heads cut off? They join the army, but they can't take the consequences. Bunch of fucking crybabies! :D
Don't I reach some interesting conclusions when I used your fucked up logic?
Oh is that you using our logic? OK show me where we used that logic, where did we praise military personnel cause I don't remember it. Run along now and seek solace in Lynx and Lamb.
Brian Foley 06-11-06, 03:25 PM And here's mine:
You already gave it before .
We stop playing softball with you sand niggers and start lobbing real warheads. It's quite obvious that you're all backwards savages and only understand force. It is quite unfortunate that America has the morality and Christians (Jesus bless 'em) to not bring the full might of the West against you filthy mongrels.
What the Fuck is this ? You don’t agree with these right wing Americans and you become an Islamicist its like during the Cold War you didn’t agree , and you automatically became a Communist ! Tell you what take Christianity along with Islam and shove them up your Ass , right up their alongside all of Americas operation enduring freedom , ok . Oh yeah and I see you used the term “full might of the West “ most of the West is against Americas war on the mideast .
Who cares what Zarqwad died? He still died. All you terrorist shits can kill are civilians and grunts. Do you want applause or something for your "resistance"?
The soldiers of the Iraqi liberation army don’t care .
"We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy."
Osama bin Laden Oct 2004
Iraq war is costing $100,000 per minute (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2002780385_spending03.html)
Victory is theirs .
You already gave it before .
What the Fuck is this ? You don’t agree with these right wing Americans and you become an Islamicist its like during the Cold War you didn’t agree , and you automatically became a Communist ! Tell you what take Christianity along with Islam and shove them up your Ass , right up their alongside all of Americas operation enduring freedom , ok . Oh yeah and I see you used the term “full might of the West “ most of the West is against Americas war on the mideast .
The soldiers of the Iraqi liberation army don’t care .
Victory is theirs .
Do you know what the costs of the war have been until now?
Both financial and in terms of men lost?
May he rest in peace .
May he rest in pieces.
You mean the propaganda stories from Americas media ? Strange that a man supposedly responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent Iraqis was only sold out by a rogue informant not by the Iraqi people . It was the common Iraqis who sheilded him and protected him for 3 years from Americans , strange behaviour would you not say if he was a sociopathic mass murderer , this shows their devotion to him .
And in which part of Iraq was he hiding? Among the people he bombed? Or among Sunnis? In Fallujah, you idiot, as you yourself admit.
The really nice thing about is that Zarqawi went down
I agree that that was the best part too. Zarqawi went down. Buh-bye.
fighting and a supposedly elite US unit backed off after a gun battle and had to call in an air strike , jerks .
LOL. Awww - Foley's hero dead. That sucks.
And whats more indicative of official cowardice is after they pulled him half dead from the rubble they beat him :
Well...good. That seems quite proper.
Kicking a man who is down on his back how low can you get ?
I dunno. I think it would be lower still to randomly blow up innocent people from another religious sect in a country that's trying to put itself back together and attain some kind of representational government. Kind of like kicking a whole country when they're down. Then again, maybe he just didn't like Shi'ite weddings.
Well you better inform sthe Iraqi resistance because its business as usual .
Yep - more murder.
Well then makethe demented Fooley eat his words and enlist !
Better yet, maybe you could join the terrorists.
Generally shots a traded through windows when houses come under siege .
Then he didn't "come out with guns blazing", Sundance.
And Geoff simply is a racist
A lie - but you are indeed one.
This was a story from one of Geoffs sources
Another lie. It was on another link, and it represents the worry about another genocide against Jewish people.
Geoff
James R 06-11-06, 09:51 PM Roman has been banned for 2 days for insulting remarks directed at Muslims and Arabs.
Brian Foley 06-11-06, 10:29 PM May he rest in pieces.
Your a poet and didnt know it !
And in which part of Iraq was he hiding? Among the people he bombed? Or among Sunnis? In Fallujah, you idiot, as you yourself admit.
It took 3 years and according to the US it was through a snitch that they found him . That says something of his standing amongst Iraqis .
I agree that that was the best part too. Zarqawi went down. Buh-bye.
Yep he went down alright , shooting and it took an airstrike to finish him .
LOL. Awww - Foley's hero dead. That sucks.
I knew eventually he was going to die that happens to all rebel leaders .
I dunno. I think it would be lower still to randomly blow up innocent people from another religious sect in a country that's trying to put itself back together and attain some kind of representational government. Kind of like kicking a whole country when they're down. Then again, maybe he just didn't like Shi'ite weddings.
I dont believe a word of it , these are all accusations emanating from the US media , a media which is a compulsive lying propaganda machine .
Yep - more murder.
Resistance against the occupier .
Better yet, maybe you could join the terrorists.
No sorry mate I wouldnt join the US army nor the Israeli army . Iraq is their country not mine they are fufilling their duty , if I was born in occupied Ireland I would be with the IRA , and if my land of Birth Australia was attacked I would be in the military . Better yet why arent you in the British army seeing you are an avid cheerleader for the cause ?
Then he didn't "come out with guns blazing", Sundance.
All I know is there was a brief gunfight the US special forces cowered and called in an airstrike . As far as I am concerned MR Al Zarqawi went down a soldier .
A lie - but you are indeed one.
No lie , and as for me well you had an chance to prove that I was an Anti-Semite from my quotes along with the Devil Inside you failed .
mountainhare 06-12-06, 03:10 AM Sock:
Oh is that you using our logic? OK show me where we used that logic, where did we praise military personnel cause I don't remember it.
What does praising the military personnel have to do with your distorted logic that Zarqawi died like a pussy? If Zarqawi supposedly died like a pussy (after beating back U.S special forces in a gunfight, surviving bombardment, and then getting beaten to death while still defiant), then it only stands to reason that the U.S personel who begged for mercy before getting decapitated are double, or triple, the pussies that Zarqawi ever was.
Your logic isn't so pleasant when it's applied to the other side, eh?
No matter your feelings on Zarqawi's activities prior to his death, you can't deny that he died the typical 'hero's death'.
Run along now and seek solace in Lynx and Lamb.
Run along now, and seek solace in the U.S special forces. The same chaps who couldn't even take a lone guerilla warrior in a gunfight, despite outgunning and outnumbering him.
Alejandro 06-12-06, 03:56 AM ..... is a compulsive lying propaganda machine .
is that how your mom describes you?
The Devil Inside 06-12-06, 11:18 AM calling airstrikes in a situation like that is not uncommon. do you doubt that even for a second, zarqawi wouldnt have called down the "holy fire of allah" on the infidels, if he could? wouldnt that be just as cowardly? isnt it just as cowardly to sit behind a keyboard and insult the people of iraq by using them in the same sentence as that murdering piece of garbage?
regardless of his cause, however noble or however evil (doesnt matter), he intentionally killed innocent people in order to create an atmosphere of chaos in which he could operate.
what percentage of the people voted in the elections they held in iraq, foley? hmm?
what percentage of them are blowing up anything, foley? hmm?
it is interesting that you dont care about the man killing more iraqi civilians than american and british soldiers.
you dont care, because you have never seen anyone have mortal violence visited upon them in person. you are cheering for that murderer because you hate america and americans, not because he was right in doing what he did during his life.
"i cant sleep, cuz my bed is on fire...."
It took 3 years and according to the US it was through a snitch that they found him . That says something of his standing amongst Iraqis .
It says something rather of his support in the local community, and his ability to hide.
Yep he went down alright , shooting and it took an airstrike to finish him .
Are you entirely sure he was shooting? I saw a clip released by him last month indicating he didn't even know where the safety on his rifle was.
I dont believe a word of it , these are all accusations emanating from the US media , a media which is a compulsive lying propaganda machine .
Of course you don't. You don't dare believe in anything which might upset your tenuous grip on reality.
Resistance against the occupier .
What - the Shi'ites? They're the occupier, are they? Weddings, breadmakers and falafel sellers keeping the Sunnis down? 'Course they are.
No sorry mate I wouldnt join the US army nor the Israeli army . Iraq is their country not mine they are fufilling their duty , if I was born in occupied Ireland I would be with the IRA , and if my land of Birth Australia was attacked I would be in the military . Better yet why arent you in the British army seeing you are an avid cheerleader for the cause ?
A few errors here: first, I'm not your mate. Second, the Shi'ites are every bit as Iraqi as the Sunnis, so your claim would be better represented by saying that you'd happily take up arms against the aboriginals. As far as the British army goes, I do a far better job defending society by dealing with the claims of ridiculous anarchists like yourself. I also add that I never said at any point that I was in favour of the war.
All I know is there was a brief gunfight the US special forces cowered and called in an airstrike . As far as I am concerned MR Al Zarqawi went down a soldier .
And he lived and worked like a murderer.
No lie , and as for me well you had an chance to prove that I was an Anti-Semite from my quotes along with the Devil Inside you failed .
On the contrary, you've given yourself away (along with any believability you might have once had) several times.
Geoff
Brian Foley 06-12-06, 05:57 PM is that how your mom describes you?
Lonely ? My mum is single need a date do you ?
calling airstrikes in a situation like that is not uncommon. do you doubt that even for a second, zarqawi wouldnt have called down the "holy fire of allah" on the infidels, if he could?
An airstrike consisting of 2 500 kg bombs ? And on a plasteboard 3 bedroom home ? Or maybe an airstrike obliterates witnesses and unsavoury evidence whence the over kill .
isnt it just as cowardly to sit behind a keyboard and insult the people of iraq by using them in the same sentence as that murdering piece of garbage?
Insulting the people of Iraq , how strange every poster from the mideast who has posted on sciforums has openly backed me even sending me PMs commending me on my stand towards the Palestinians and Iraq . And yet you a man of self declared spirituality goes out of his way to legitimize a war in which nearly 2 million Iraqi human beings have been snuffed out since 1990 .The people of Iraq are united in their opposition to the Americans nobody needs to tell me that .
regardless of his cause, however noble or however evil (doesnt matter), he intentionally killed innocent people in order to create an atmosphere of chaos in which he could operate.
As far as I am aware it was America provoking the Shiite leader of Basra Al Sadr I believe , remember they were going to attack him and bombing that mosque that’s the root cause of this Shiite – Sunni conflict .
what percentage of the people voted in the elections they held in iraq, foley? hmm?
what percentage of them are blowing up anything, foley? hmm?
it is interesting that you dont care about the man killing more iraqi civilians than american and british soldiers.
Oh the elections ! Free elections in an occupied nation where the Baath party was barred from the elections . What percentage of the Iraqis want the US out of Iraq ? Does it concern you that since his death in the mainstream media they have been downplaying his supposed atrocities ? Like Saddams now proven non-existent mass graves ? Or the now debunked WMD , chemical weapons lies , lies , lies all lies and you expect me to believe these stories from the same media which knowingly published those lies ?
you dont care, because you have never seen anyone have mortal violence visited upon them in person. you are cheering for that murderer because you hate america and americans, not because he was right in doing what he did during his life.
Oh man you really have me all summed up don’t you , rabid anti-semite , coward , virulent Anti-American , loser disgruntled factory worker , redneck extraordinaire and now this mortal violence . Listen mate Ill tell you this once what your nation America is doing in Iraq is against God medieval sanctions killing 1.5 million persons , aerial bombing campaigns , wars of attrition on Iraqi humans killing a further 500,000 . that’s all Iraq is , a windfall of death and misery , and I don’t need anyone telling me different , I would love to shove you right in the midst of Iraq during Fallujah or the sanctions , or better yet the middle Gaza right now and see you mouth off your convictions on how great Zionism is and why the US occupation of Iraq is beneficial .
It says something rather of his support in the local community, and his ability to hide.
Local support , yeah seeing he was internationally supported as well and as admitted by the US intel he was working in co-operation with Iraqi resistance which is not a religious force as it is composed of Sunni and Shiites as well as Christian Iraqis . So that debunks your just local support theory .
Are you entirely sure he was shooting? I saw a clip released by him last month indicating he didn't even know where the safety on his rifle was.
Well then show me evidence he was not .
Of course you don't. You don't dare believe in anything which might upset your tenuous grip on reality.
Tenuous grip on reality ? Fuck this from you ! Jews are a race , Jews aren’t a race , Iran is building an atomic bomb , Iran isn’t building an atomic bomb , blood libel is a Moslem idea , your reputation here is shot you continually contradict yourself .
What - the Shi'ites? They're the occupier, are they? Weddings, breadmakers and falafel sellers keeping the Sunnis down? 'Course they are.
A few errors here: first, I'm not your mate.
You got that straight , mate it’s a habit with Australians , you’re a cowardly racist and I wont make that mistake again .
Second, the Shi'ites are every bit as Iraqi as the Sunnis, so your claim would be better represented by saying that you'd happily take up arms against the aboriginals.
Its only you and the US administration pushing this Sunni vs Shiite bullshit , as far as I am concerned before 2003 this Sunni vs Shiite never existed only since America
As far as the British army goes, I do a far better job defending society by dealing with the claims of ridiculous anarchists like yourself.
Good one you stick behind your keyboard as you give us all so much comic relief .
I also add that I never said at any point that I was in favour of the war.
Conveniently distancing himself .
And he lived and worked like a murderer.
Resistance Fighter .
On the contrary, you've given yourself away (along with any believability you might have once had) several times.
Where ? I have asked you for proof twice now .
The Devil Inside 06-12-06, 06:55 PM im not a zionist, foley. i have stated this on multiple occassions.
further, i do not support the war in iraq. but i dont think that the way to solve the problems going on there is with violence. it is apparent that you do not understand a thing about the situation. the only reason there are still american troops on the ground, is to hold the bloody country together. what do you think would happen if the americans just packed up and left? we cant change what the u.s. government has done, so dont get into semantics about "they shouldnt be there anyhow".
ill tell you exactly what would happen. a civil war that would not stop until another middle eastern country used the opportunity to secure the country for themselves. regardless of what is right and wrong about the situation, you cant honestly tell me that there would be peace after the americans were gone.
and dont deign to speak for g-d. you have no idea of what g-d is, and neither does anyone who advocates violence of any kind. shit, i dont even know what g-d is, and i am a nonviolent person. when you speak for g-d, you are no better than bush. he said that g-d told him to invade afghanistan.
im sure you would love to shove me into the midst of the fighting. i would head straight north to relatives i have that live on the turkish border. it would be nice to see them again (i havent seen them since i was 7 years old).
the fact of the matter is, you dont know a thing about war. you dont know a thing about international politics, and you CERTAINLY dont know a thing about what is going on in iraq. if the troops were to pull out tomorrow, and the violence intensified, you would find some way to blame the bloodshed on israel or the united states. when you can take off your blinders, you will be amazed at what you can see around you.
and yes, i DO have you summed up fairly nicely. would you like an entire personality profile?
Sock puppet path 06-13-06, 08:06 AM Sock:
What does praising the military personnel have to do with your distorted logic that Zarqawi died like a pussy? If Zarqawi supposedly died like a pussy (after beating back U.S special forces in a gunfight, surviving bombardment, and then getting beaten to death while still defiant), then it only stands to reason that the U.S personel who begged for mercy before getting decapitated are double, or triple, the pussies that Zarqawi ever was.
Your logic isn't so pleasant when it's applied to the other side, eh?
No matter your feelings on Zarqawi's activities prior to his death, you can't deny that he died the typical 'hero's death'.
Using your logic here I should be offended or upset by this sorry mate try again. If he was beaten to death, and I hope he was, then it was iraqis who did it. The man wanted to kill and fight americans he got his wish unfortunately for him he was outgunned, tough break that. I could really care less either way, it's not my war.
Run along now, and seek solace in the U.S special forces. The same chaps who couldn't even take a lone guerilla warrior in a gunfight, despite outgunning and outnumbering him.
Nice try whitepower fanboy, a swing and a miss ;)
Oh man you really have me all summed up don’t you , rabid anti-semite , coward , virulent Anti-American , loser disgruntled factory worker , redneck extraordinaire
I don't think I could have put together a better list if I tried. I might have added 'stupid', of course; but let's not damn the list for it's incompleteness.
I add here: I support neither the war, and CERTAINLY never the sanctions.
Local support , yeah seeing he was internationally supported as well
What? by the Saudis and Pakistan? Oh yes, that corresponds to wide international support, all right. Look: recieving a half dozen idiots riding the short bus from Damascus does not qualify as "international support".
and as admitted by the US intel he was working in co-operation with Iraqi resistance which is not a religious force as it is composed of Sunni and Shiites as well as Christian Iraqis . So that debunks your just local support theory .
Evidence?
Well then show me evidence he was not .
Well, he didn't know where the frigging safety was on his rifle. I don't know what they teach in the 'special' school system down Afghanistan-way, but the very first thing I learned about rifles in the army was where the safety was.
Tenuous grip on reality ? Fuck this from you ! Jews are a race , Jews aren’t a race , Iran is building an atomic bomb , Iran isn’t building an atomic bomb , blood libel is a Moslem idea , your reputation here is shot you continually contradict yourself .
The contradictions, as always, are your own invention, spawned by sad opportunism and nurtured on hate.
You got that straight , mate it’s a habit with Australians , you’re a cowardly racist and I wont make that mistake again .
You've already made it several times; I do look forward to better, though.
Its only you and the US administration pushing this Sunni vs Shiite bullshit , as far as I am concerned before 2003 this Sunni vs Shiite never existed only since America
Are you having a laugh? Are you mad? Sunnis and Shi'ites have never got along; Saddam increased the power of the Sunnis at the expense of the Shi'ites and now you seem to think that never occurred. Well, why should I be surprised? You can't accept that anyone but the Americans and Jewish people ever oppressed anyone.
Good one you stick behind your keyboard as you give us all so much comic relief .
I shall. I shall also endeavour to educate at the same time; some of my pupils are naturally thicker than others, but hope springs eternal.
Conveniently distancing himself .
Prove that it's convenient, or that I'm 'distancing' myself.
Resistance Fighter .
Coward; murderer. He resisted women and children, wedding parties, Shi'ite mosques.
Where ? I have asked you for proof twice now .
And I have responded many more times than that.
Cheers,
Geoff
Alejandro 06-13-06, 12:09 PM Fogley(pseudo Aussie)said:
Resistance Fighter . ?????
didnt he cut off that poor defenseless guys head, whos hands were tied?...on video no less.
Brian Foley 06-14-06, 05:56 PM ill tell you exactly what would happen. a civil war that would not stop until another middle eastern country used the opportunity to secure the country for themselves. regardless of what is right and wrong about the situation, you cant honestly tell me that there would be peace after the americans were gone.
Yes a civil war is precisely what America wants as the old adage divide and conquer fits perfectly with what America wants and is provoking .
and dont deign to speak for g-d. you have no idea of what g-d is, and neither does anyone who advocates violence of any kind. shit, i dont even know what g-d is, and i am a nonviolent person. when you speak for g-d, you are no better than bush. he said that g-d told him to invade afghanistan.
No the provoker of violence is the US the resistance are simply defending themselves . You don’t understand religion nor God as you have by your admission to me admitted you were a Fundamentalist Christian then a Satanist and finally a Jew , this proves to me your mind digests any garbage that’s put in front of it , your easily led , next year you could be a Buddhist or a Jehovahs witness . Your mind is open to brainwashing and is easily coerced , that is because your mind has been institutionalized by many years of force fed education . Analyzing is beyond your capacity that’s your weak link and it shows in your stalking of me .
im sure you would love to shove me into the midst of the fighting. i would head straight north to relatives i have that live on the turkish border. it would be nice to see them again (i havent seen them since i was 7 years old).
No I wouldn’t put you into any situation where your life or health would be in danger , I simply would put you into Americas Fallujah dungeon or Israels version of the Warsaw ghettoe to hear from those afflicted by the actions of America and Israel violence and oppression .
and yes, i DO have you summed up fairly nicely. would you like an entire personality profile?
I find you to be a very immature individual and such a psychoanalysis would be superfluous .
I don't think I could have put together a better list if I tried. I might have added 'stupid', of course; but let's not damn the list for it's incompleteness.
Calling me stupid after your debacle on the blood libel and Hagannah debate is a tad rich .
Yes the most vociferous defender of operation enduring freedom expects me to swallow this pile of shit .
[QUOTE=Geoff P] What? by the Saudis and Pakistan? Oh yes, that corresponds to wide international support, all right. Look: recieving a half dozen idiots riding the short bus from Damascus does not qualify as "international support".
Jordan , Palestine , Algeria , Iran as well , it would pay you top read Al Jazeera every so often and read what Arabs in that region think , very enlightening .
Are you having a laugh? Are you mad? Sunnis and Shi'ites have never got along; Saddam increased the power of the Sunnis at the expense of the Shi'ites and now you seem to think that never occurred. Well, why should I be surprised? You can't accept that anyone but the Americans and Jewish people ever oppressed anyone.
Never gotten along like Protestants and Catholics , however pre 2003 they were not killing each other and pre Saddam Hussein the Shiites and Sunnis weren’t doing it either . Yet we had in 2004 inexplicably a car bombing attack killing 150 Shiites at a public gathering to Al Sadr when holed up in the Mosque at the provocation of the US of Al Sdar which the US immediately blames on Sunni extremists . The US provoked this and is attempting to fan it even further fortunately it is not catching as 20 years of Saddams non-sectarian rule has dampened the rivalry .
And I have responded many more times than that.
Where ? I asked you before for proof after previous accusations either put up or shut up .
didnt he cut off that poor defenseless guys head, whos hands were tied?...on video no less.
Whose head Daniel Pearl the Israeli or David Berg now accepted as having ties to the Mossad ? Executing is executing .
The Devil Inside 06-14-06, 06:38 PM dude, you are a joke.
the only reason anyone responds to you is because we are afraid some kid might come onto this site and read your garbage as truth.
you think i stalk you, huh? i suppose i should start by finding your address? pshaaaw.
you wouldnt be worth the effort. natural selection will take care of your dumb ass, foley.
Calling me stupid after your debacle on the blood libel and Hagannah debate is a tad rich .
Richly accurate.
Yes the most vociferous defender of operation enduring freedom expects me to swallow this pile of shit .
LOL - and where have I defended it, git? Sad.
Jordan , Palestine , Algeria , Iran as well , it would pay you top read Al Jazeera every so often and read what Arabs in that region think , very enlightening .
Yes, jihad attracts stupids in all their swelling multitudes. It would pay you to read. Period.
Yet we had in 2004 inexplicably a car bombing attack killing 150 Shiites at a public gathering to Al Sadr when holed up in the Mosque at the provocation of the US of Al Sdar which the US immediately blames on Sunni extremists .
Because they did it.
The US provoked this and is attempting to fan it even further fortunately it is not catching as 20 years of Saddams non-sectarian rule has dampened the rivalry .]
A lie. First you shriek that the US is causing a civil war, then that Sunnis and Shi'ites are not falling for it. Make up your mind.
Where ? I asked you before for proof after previous accusations either put up or shut up .
I've done so a dozen times; couldn't care less about your tiny, tiny ego.
Geoff
Brian Foley 06-15-06, 02:48 AM dude, you are a joke.
Me a Joke ???
Has European multiculturalism gone too far? (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=55095&page=6&pp=20)
by the way...i did some digging, and found some forums that used to have a user named "brian foley" from australia on them....interesting some of the posts i read in which you use the words "evil jews", and "nazi jews"...i thought you never said anything like that?
oh, you must have meant only on THIS forum? you didnt specify, and i can provide links if you like. i feel particularly vindicated right about now. funny how you seem to have a propensity for being wrong everywhere you go, and getting banned because you cant handle it.
If anyone is reading just read the following :
no sir, i am not an idiot, and this kind of thing is my life study.
just as yours is smearing the name of jews.
as soon as i get clearance on posting links to other forums with a moderator, i will do so. rest assured.
if i am not allowed, all one would have to do is google "brian foley antisemitism forum" to find multiple instances of forum bannings for extremism and hate speech.
Then I answer :
By all means , there is nothing stopping you posting those links now , I have nothing to hide , you have commited yourself to this you cannot go back , you must now see it through . And as forum bannings never for hate speech or Anti-semitism Im going to hold you to this Im going to see it through . Ill even give you some help PM kiwi123 when he comes back , he is like you he follows me around everywhere I go he will even give you other forums I posted on .
Notice I gave him express permission to publish these quotes .
And here is his answer :
dont bother, geoff.
he intends to destroy this forum and i say we let him.
the mods refuse to do anything about his inflammatory posts, or his insulting manner of discussion. i, for one, am done dealing with that insipid fuck.
He is a liar and he claims to be religious what a joke .
Richly accurate.
Yeah Ill say here was his claim ;
Another attempt at an Honour Killing (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=54441&page=2&pp=20&highlight=blood+libel)
"The Blood Libel", for those who've never heard of it, is the old islamic slander against Jewish people,
Then when I king hit him with a Jewish source which clearly only indicts Christians it becomes .
Blood Libel (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/gloss.html)
An allegation, recurring during the thirteenth through sixteenth centuries, that Jews were killing Christian children to use their blood for the ritual of making unleavened bread (matzah). A red mold which occasionally appeared on the bread started this myth.
Oh? Did I say it was of islamic invention? I merely said it was an "old" one: probably a good ten years or more.
A lie. First you shriek that the US is causing a civil war, then that Sunnis and Shi'ites are not falling for it. Make up your mind.
The US is trying to ferment a civil war 3 years on it still has not eventuated because they aint falling for it .
I've done so a dozen times; couldn't care less about your tiny, tiny ego.
Where have you done so a dozen times ? Please show me .
The Devil Inside 06-15-06, 07:20 AM Me a Joke ???
haha if you havent figured that out.....you are sadder than i thought.
and i never recieved permission from any of the mods to post links to other forums, dipshit. you arent the boss here, and i am not going to use your permission as divine law. the SECOND i have permission from a mod to post them, you will be exposed. i will pm goofy a second time about recieving this permission.
Brian Foley 06-15-06, 01:34 PM haha if you havent figured that out.....you are sadder than i thought.
and i never recieved permission from any of the mods to post links to other forums, dipshit. you arent the boss here, and i am not going to use your permission as divine law. the SECOND i have permission from a mod to post them, you will be exposed. i will pm goofy a second time about recieving this permission.
Jesus mate your a Fucking nut .
The Devil Inside 06-15-06, 02:03 PM nah, im actually quite down to earth.
change your foil, you are starting to smell up the place.
racecar drivers are retarded.
Brian Foley 06-15-06, 02:14 PM nah, im actually quite down to earth.
change your foil, you are starting to smell up the place.
racecar drivers are retarded.
Your not down to earth , you are a wanker , seriously , no one pays any attention to you , not even the moderators . I even notice when you answer posters on other threads no one bothers giving you an answer much of the time . Twice now you have put me on your ignore list and a week ago you announced you were finished with me , but your back , fact is I think you enjoy my company .
spidergoat 06-15-06, 03:25 PM Foley, I wouldn't say that trying to instigate a civil war between Sunnis and Shiites constitutes any kind of defense of the Iraqi people.
Brian Foley 06-15-06, 04:40 PM Just a note to clear this up :
This continual harassment of me began some months back , on 2 occasions he has declared I was on his ignore list only to have him within days pursue his harassment of me again . Last week he declared he would no longer have anything to do with me , as you can see from this post he has gone back to his harassment of me . This is a case of fascination with me which leads this poster to stalk/harass me , he declares that as I am a Anti-Semite on sciforums he has a mission to get me banned . He has failed to provide any evidence of my supposed Anti-Semitism other than my threads which criticize Israel .
Last week he announced that he has found evidence where I been banned from multiple forums for extremism and Antoi-Semitism I have been banned from only 1 forum and that is Patriotic Forums (http://www.pro-american.com/forums/showgroups.php) for Anti-Americanism check it out . He also invited readers to enter into a Google search the command “ Brian Foley Anti-Semitism” and to view the results , the search turns up NOTHING (http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&q=Brian+Foley+Anti+Semitism&meta=) .
He also claims to have evidence of prior posts of my Anti-Semitism and threatens to expose me . I sent a Personal Message to both JamesR and Goofyfish over The Devil Inside last bout of harassment of me and put forward his admission of searching other forums for my past posting history on other forums and his threat of posting the results of your search here on sciforums as an example of your stalking/harassment of me . They both informed me they have no interest in this as they cannot prevent him from doing this . So there is nothing stopping this loon from posting his evidence .
Brian Foley 06-15-06, 04:41 PM Foley, I wouldn't say that trying to instigate a civil war between Sunnis and Shiites constitutes any kind of defense of the Iraqi people.
As I said if US forces have peace in Iraq with no conflict they must leave , a nation in turmoil means the US must stay giving the US the excuse to keep its main invasion force against Iran in place .
spidergoat 06-15-06, 04:54 PM That is a theoretical motivation for the US to instigate civil war, but the Al Quida insurgency also knows that Iraqis will not tolerate them for very long once the US leaves. Personally, I think the US genuinely wants the Iraqi government to succeed, and it's unlikely we will invade Iran with ground troops.
The Devil Inside 06-16-06, 03:46 AM Your not down to earth , you are a wanker , seriously , no one pays any attention to you , not even the moderators . I even notice when you answer posters on other threads no one bothers giving you an answer much of the time . Twice now you have put me on your ignore list and a week ago you announced you were finished with me , but your back , fact is I think you enjoy my company .
awww..poor fucking baby cant counter points raised against your arguments, so you have to try and make other people think about me the way you do.....
hah you are a fucking joke. everyone here thinks so.
idiot.
The Flemster 06-16-06, 04:05 AM America used an airstrike to take out a known international terrorist.
I see no problem here.
As Peter Kay would say: Top Bombing!!!
James R 06-16-06, 08:33 PM The Devil Inside:
If you continue your harassment of Brian Foley, you will be banned, initially for one week.
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