http://www.grendel.org/tsc/klosterman-enemies.htm

It rarely matters who is on your side; what matters is who is against you. Unlike Gloria Loring, you don't need a friend and you don't need a lover. What you need is a) one quality nemesis, and b) one archenemy. These are the two most important characters in the life of any successful human. We measure ourselves against our nemeses, and we long to destroy our archenemies. Nemeses and archenemies are the catalysts for everything.

Now, I know that you're probably asking yourself, How do I know the difference between my nemesis and my archenemy? Here is the short answer: You kind of like your nemesis, despite the fact that you despise him. If your nemesis invited you out for cocktails, you would accept the offer. If he died, you would attend his funeral and—privately—you might shed a tear over his passing. But you would never have drinks with your archenemy, unless you were attempting to spike his gin with hemlock. If you were to perish, your archenemy would dance on your grave, and then he'd burn down your house and molest your children. You hate your archenemy so much that you try to keep your hatred secret, because you don't want your archenemy to have the satisfaction of being hated.

If this distinction seems confusing, just ask your girlfriend to explain it in detail; women have always intuitively grasped the nemesis/archenemy dichotomy. Every woman I've ever known has had at least one close friend whose only purpose in life is to criticize her actions, compete for the attention of men, and drive her insane; very often, this is a woman's best friend . Every woman also has a former friend (usually someone from high school with large breasts) whom she has loathed for years (and whom she will continue to loath with the intensity of a thousand suns, even if she sees her only once every ten years). This is her archenemy. Women intrinsically understand human dynamics, and this makes them unstoppable. Unfortunately, the average man is less adroit at fostering such rivalries, which is why most men remain average. Males are better at hating things that can't hate them back (e.g., lawn mowers, cats, the 1986 Denver Broncos, et cetera). Most men fail to see a world beyond themselves; if given the choice, they would connect themselves to nothing. But greatness cannot be achieved in a vacuum, and great people know that.


Where would we be without envy?

Well, I've been saying it for years ...and even on this site ...humans hate other humans in a myriad of different ways. Hate is what makes the world go around and around ...always has, always will.

And most people here tout "luv" and "peace" and shit like that as if it's actually something that will ever happen ...except in the pipedreams!

Baron Max

Sounds like she has a pretty severe borderline/narcissistic personality disorder from reading that.

Although theres definitely a truth to this, ive seen people absolutely revel in being hated just as some revel in being loved.
Ive never once seen anyone revel in personal indifference though, its indifference more than anything that seems to kill the soul.

Well, I've been saying it for years ...and even on this site ...humans hate other humans in a myriad of different ways. Hate is what makes the world go around and around ...always has, always will.

And most people here tout "luv" and "peace" and shit like that as if it's actually something that will ever happen ...except in the pipedreams!

Baron Max

So does hate conquer all? or love?

I say love has the ability to conquer all, except itself perhaps?? (I really say it only for the sake of saying something obligatory about love even though I think it's more complicated than that...and mostly full of crap)

But I seriously think that hate truly conquers all, including itself.

Well, I've been saying it for years ...and even on this site ...humans hate other humans in a myriad of different ways. Hate is what makes the world go around and around ...always has, always will.

And most people here tout "luv" and "peace" and shit like that as if it's actually something that will ever happen ...except in the pipedreams!

Baron Max

I really hate agreeing with baron lol but.....I kinda agree here again.....You can't luv everybody (well i can't) and I do think alot of ppl preach alot of shit about luving every human being. I really do fuking hate some ppl and that won't change. I also tell ppl that I do not think 2 ppl can every be married all their life without every arguing.....Some ppl want you to believe that they NEVER do and go around smiling all the time, I just don't beleive it. I think somebody in that relationship is backing down.....etc.

I also tell ppl that I do not think 2 ppl can every be married all their life without every arguing.....Some ppl want you to believe that they NEVER do and go around smiling all the time, I just don't beleive it. I think somebody in that relationship is backing down.....etc.

Just because you can't that means no one can?

Just because you can't that means no one can?

I find it hard to beleive that 2 ppl can live together their whole lives and never argue or get into a fight....thats just me but thats what i beleive. I have lived next to some ppl that appear to be like Leave it to Beaver...on the outside.....and behind closed doors it different. I guess I am just not into faking anything, if I am in a shitty mood I don't go around grinning like a fool...I just will never beleive that 2 ppl can live together side by side day after day..yr after yr and NEVER argue or fight about something......

I just will never beleive that 2 ppl can live together side by side day after day..yr after yr and NEVER argue or fight about something......

You will never believe it??
That seems kind of silly and closed-minded to me.

Never argue or fight?
Arguing is not a bad thing - arguing is simply discussing something from two differeing points of view.
"I think Janis Joplin is a great singer."
"I think Janis Joplin is over-rated and her voice is too gravelly."
That's an argument - differing opinions is not a bad thing.

When the argument gets personal, that's a fight...

"I think Janis Joplin is over-rated and her voice is too gravelly."
"God you have no fucking taste in music."
"Fuck you!"
That's a fight.

I think people can live together for years and never have a fight, without one backing down and being the pansy - in fact, I know they can.
All it takes is simply respect.
Once you lose respect, the relationship is dead.

Most everyone i know relationship is dead then.

Most everyone i know relationship is dead then.

See, Shorty, ....it's virtually impossible to discuss anything about reality with an idealist. "IF" conquers all for an idealist ...and no amount of reality can stand up against the dreamer's "if" statements.

"If everyone loved everyone else, then there'd be no wars or violence."
"If bears never shit in the woods, then there'd be no bear shit in the woods."
"If all women were perfectly subservient to men, there'd be no arguments between men and women."
"If women permitted sex with any male that wants it, then men would be to damned tired to fight ...and wouldn't care anyway."

"IF" is such a powerful word ...and has so little connection to reality.

Baron Max

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1162678/2/istockphoto_1162678_i_luv_u.jpg

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1162678/2/istockphoto_1162678_i_luv_u.jpg

Perhaps ...but from your posts here at sciforums, it seems that you don't love me. So ...which is it? Or can you love someone at the same time as you denigrate them and slander them and call them vile names? :D

Baron Max

Perhaps ...but from your posts here at sciforums, it seems that you don't love me. So ...which is it?

http://www.stampinstuff.com/images/luvyouasst.jpg

Or can you love someone at the same time as you denigrate them and slander them and call them vile names? :D

Baron Max

Isn't that the nemesis in the OP?

http://www.stampinstuff.com/images/luvyouasst.jpg

It's easy post stuff like that, Nick, and easy to type the words, but can you actually show it in your posts? Apparently not ...all one has to do is read some of your posts.

And that's exactly what I've been saying all along ....people lie.

Baron Max

It's easy post stuff like that, Nick, and easy to type the words, but can you actually show it in your posts?

http://randomwalks.com/drublood/archives/The%20Finger.jpg

Perhaps ...but from your posts here at sciforums, it seems that you don't love me. So ...which is it? Or can you love someone at the same time as you denigrate them and slander them and call them vile names? :D

Baron Max

of course........you just summed up my relationship with nietzche lol

plus i don't lie I tell everyone close to me I don't like many ppl...I am not going
to pretend that I do. I don't have many 'friends' and I don't really care to be honest because alot of these so called friends are no where in sight when you actually need help. I have a few REAL friends the rest can go to hell.

The only really necessary enemy in life - the absolute, utter Grendel of existence - is death. No other conflict is inherently necessary, although human behaviour sometimes renders it unavoidable. The solution I believe is reproduction; no particular combination of my genetic information survives completely, but my future is assured by the line of my haplotypic history.

without hate there can be no love so it's important

The only really necessary enemy in life - the absolute, utter Grendel of existence - is death. No other conflict is inherently necessary, although human behaviour sometimes renders it unavoidable. The solution I believe is reproduction; no particular combination of my genetic information survives completely, but my future is assured by the line of my haplotypic history.

hey even spongebob don't get along with squidward :bugeye:

hey even spongebob don't get along with squidward :bugeye:
A 37 year old woman watching Spongebob Squarepants...:bugeye:
:roflmao:



J/K. SB is funny as hell. His laugh floors me everytime.

A 37 year old woman watching Spongebob Squarepants...:bugeye:
:roflmao:



J/K. SB is funny as hell. His laugh floors me everytime.

draws imaginary box around myself;)


......you must use your IMAGGGGGGGINNNNNATTTTTTTIOOOOOON.......

lol what do you expect her to do knit! i stil rember that shorty lol

[QUOTE=mikenostic;1430173]A 37 year old woman watching Spongebob Squarepants...:bugeye:
:roflmao:



Where do you think I learn the true meaning of life?

well the cartoon netwokrk is not giving me anything....

Where do you think I learn the true meaning of life?

Go on tell us. Where?

Go on tell us. Where?

I told you....who lives in a pineapple under the sea?

Deputy Dawg? Huckleberry Hound? Snagglepuss, even?

Deputy Dawg? Huckleberry Hound? Snagglepuss, even?

Spongebob square pants ..........Baron Max squarehead........la la la
you know this will all be deleted stay on TRACK ppl its about being hated.

And as Baron said........can you love someone and call them vile names.......
my answer is YEs I get called them all the time lolol

Most everyone i know relationship is dead then.

Most everyone?
So then I guess it's possible, then?

without hate there can be no love so it's important

Really?
I've heard that before, I don't understand why people say that.

Explain to me how/why that is.

Most everyone?
So then I guess it's possible, then?

yes, but its a very very,,,,,tiny percentage i think...that is if they are both
equal,,,,,one person isn't just not saying what they really think to keep the peace. Take me, I can't keep my mouth shut , if it bothers me i have to say something. Even though it may end in an argument. Some ppl just hide thier real feelings....because they don't wanna rock the boat.

I told you....who lives in a pineapple under the sea?
Absorbent and yellow and porous is he!

yes, but its a very very,,,,,tiny percentage i think...that is if they are both
equal,,,,,one person isn't just not saying what they really think to keep the peace. Take me, I can't keep my mouth shut , if it bothers me i have to say something. Even though it may end in an argument. Some ppl just hide thier real feelings....because they don't wanna rock the boat.

Two people can be completely open and honest with each other, and if they do so respectfully, no fight needs to happen.
In fact, by NOT saying something bothers you, you are going to end up in a fight, because you are holding that shit in - only to erupt later.

Only a damned fool will not tell their partner if something is bothering them, and if the two people are mature, respectful, honest and compatible with each other - it does not have to end up in a fight.

People fight because they get defensive - if you trust your partner, you will have no need to defend yourself against them.
You protect each other - not attack each other.
If you think of your partner as an enemy - someone who you attack and defend yourself against - I feel sorry for both of you, and I PROMISE it does not have to be that way.
I know this for a fact.

Really?
I've heard that before, I don't understand why people say that.

Explain to me how/why that is. Everything's relative. That's how I understand that statement.

Two people can be completely open and honest with each other, and if they do so respectfully, no fight needs to happen.
In fact, by NOT saying something bothers you, you are going to end up in a fight, because you are holding that shit in - only to erupt later.

Only a damned fool will not tell their partner if something is bothering them, and if the two people are mature, respectful, honest and compatible with each other - it does not have to end up in a fight.

People fight because they get defensive - if you trust your partner, you will have no need to defend yourself against them.
You protect each other - not attack each other.
If you think of your partner as an enemy - someone who you attack and defend yourself against - I feel sorry for both of you, and I PROMISE it does not have to be that way.
I know this for a fact.


Well you are better then the majority of us then Raven. You must truly have your soulmate.
Almost everyone i know fight....some more then others...BUT NEVER fight I just don't beleive it. And not to add even more fuel to the fire here, but I have lived with someone for yrs then ....got married and you know what....things do change.......and again most ppl i know say the exact same thing. I wish everything was all rosey all the time but to me that just isn't reality.

wow shorty is marrige realy that bad im kinda put of now

wow shorty is marrige realy that bad im kinda put of now

you will find out for yourself I don't wanna taint anyone on the subject, I can only go by experience and knowing other married ppl.

Well you are better then the majority of us then Raven. You must truly have your soulmate.
That's not it at all.
Life can by trying and difficult.
People get sick.
People see each other at their worst when they live together.
People have differing opinions of some VERY IMPORTANT issues.
People are sometimes simply in bad moods.

The difference is whether or not you trust your partner to be there for you.
The difference is whether you see them as a partner you can depend on or an adversary you must protect yourself from.
It simply comes down to maturity, patience, respect and trust.
If you have real faith that your partner will never stab you in the back - you don't have to protect yourself from them.
When you feel like your partner will stab you in the back when you are not looking, you will have to constantly be vigil and defensive.
When you are defenisve, you read things into what was said, and innocent words are seen as a personal attack.

I've been in these relationships before - I know.

Early in my relationship with me fiancee, she came home froma very bad day at work.
She compalined for about 2 hours.
Eventually she relaxed and said that she was afraid I would get mad at her for dumping that all out on me.
I told her that she can complain as much as she wants, and I will be fine with that - the minute she BLAMES me for any of it, we have a problem. She can dump all that shit on me, and I will listen if taht's what she needs, but if she takes it out on me, we will not last.
We are parners that can lean on each other.
I trust her implicitly with my life and everything in it.

I have faith that she will never do anything purposely to hurt me, and she has faith that I will never do anything to purposely hurt her. So if I say something that hurts her, rather than jumping to the conclusion that I meant to hurt her, she jumps to the conculsion that I DIDN'T - and we talk about it. Same thing goes if she says something that hurts me.
Since respect starts with considering the feeling of the other person, very rarely is something said that is even hurtful unintentionally.

It's really not that difficult if you try.

Almost everyone i know fight....some more then others...BUT NEVER fight I just don't beleive it.
What I don't understand is that you keep saying that it is impossible to never fight, and that you don't believe there is anyone who never fights... then you say that almost everyone you know fights.
Either everyone you know does, or not everyione you know does.
Which is it?

And even if everyone you know fights, doesn't mean that everyone does, nor does it mean that everyone must.

And not to add even more fuel to the fire here, but I have lived with someone and ....got married and you know what....things do change.......and again most ppl i know say the exact same thing. I wish everything was all rosey all the time but to me that just isn't reality.
Again, MOST people, or ALL people?

I've been living with my fiancee over two years now (we've been together for about 3 years).
We have gone on several vacations together (one with her family) and have dealt with problems (such as death) together.
I have been in long term relationships before (over 8 years - much of that time living together), I have been in several live-in relationships in the past.
I have been around the block a few times.

I'm not some 15 year old kid talking about puppy love - I am talking from experience.

wow shorty is marrige realy that bad im kinda put of now

It doesn't have to be.

well raven we just have to end this as we don't see eye to eye on this......and i rephrase everything to MOST everyone.......not all.

well raven we just have to end this as we don't see eye to eye on this......and i rephrase everything to MOST everyone.......not all.

Let me ask you this...

If you thought it was possible to never fight (not argue, but fight) with your husband, would you want that?

k first when you say argue.......what is that to you just a disagreement and talking it out back and forth? does it get heated? do you yell? do you say things you shouldn't what?

By my definition, a healthy argument becomes an unhealthy fight when it gets emotional and personal attacks happen and you say things you shouldn't have.
When your arguments are aimed at the person you are arguing with, as opposed to being aimed at the arguments themselves.
When you start insulting the other person.
When you are mean.
When you scream at each other.
When you say things intended to hurt the person you are arguing with, hit below the belt or "push buttons".

When an argument gets personal, it is a fight.

By my definition, a healthy argument becomes an unhealthy fight when it gets emotional and personal attacks happen and you say things you shouldn't have.
When your arguments are aimed at the person you are arguing with, as opposed to being aimed at the arguments themselves.
When you start insulting the other person.
When you are mean.
When you scream at each other.
When you say things intended to hurt the person you are arguing with, hit below the belt or "push buttons".

When an argument gets personal, it is a fight.

perfectly said.

peace.

By my definition, a healthy argument becomes an unhealthy fight when it gets emotional and personal attacks happen and you say things you shouldn't have.
When your arguments are aimed at the person you are arguing with, as opposed to being aimed at the arguments themselves.
When you start insulting the other person.
When you are mean.
When you scream at each other.
When you say things intended to hurt the person you are arguing with, hit below the belt or "push buttons".

When an argument gets personal, it is a fight.

ok gotcha .......well sure I don't like to fight, does anybody really.....I just find it not possible for that to NEVER happen when you are with someone your whole life...i have a feeling this discussion could go on for pages.
I think maybe its getting off track is it?

perfectly said.

peace.

Thanks, man.


I think maybe its getting off track is it?
Who cares?
When did that ever make a difference here?
Besides, the original post was kind of silly and going nowhere anyway - otherwise people would still be talking about it.
I actually took it as tongue-in-cheek, didn't you?
Let discussions take their organic course. :D

I think that this conversation is actually getting somewhere. :)

ok gotcha .......well sure I don't like to fight, does anybody really
Yes, actually, quite a few people do.
That's why I asked.
I have known quite a few people wo get bored if they aren't fighing with their "lovers".

I just find it not possible for that to NEVER happen when you are with someone your whole life
Again - I don't want to get hung up on this, but it is a very important distinction, I think.
Do you think it is impossible - or do you think it is rare?

i have a feeling this discussion could go on for pages.
I certainly hope so - I think it's a good one!
Maybe it will go on for weeks.
I have been in some REALLY good ones that lasted for MONTHS, believe it or not!

just bring back the hate and its back on track again.


peace.

just bring back the hate and its back on track again.


peace.

It's getting there. ;)

Shit raven I feel like you are disecting me with all your quotes lol
I feel you want to get to the root of who I am .......and make me into
the person you wish i was lolol j/k

Maybe its me....hell I don't know.....maybe I just can't get along with anybody and never have a fight......

K what do you do if your partner starts something and starts calling you names?

Am loving your posts one_raven.

Take it easy man.

WHAT NOT LOVING MY POSTS? did you come for moral support or what? lol

Shit raven I feel like you are disecting me with all your quotes lol
I feel you want to get to the root of who I am .......and make me into
the person you wish i was lolol j/k

Maybe its me....hell I don't know.....maybe I just can't get along with anybody and never have a fight......

K what do you do if your partner starts something and starts calling you names?

i judge angry confrontation in 2 ways, either its going to be physical and kick off. or its going to be somebody just venting some steam and all talk,

if its the first then i will disable the threat as fast as i can, if its the second i will just laugh and suggest a more productive way to vent angry emotions.

if you get caught up in angry emotions aswell then its going to lead to nothing productive.

peace.

K what do you do if your partner starts something and starts calling you names?

She doesn't.
It has never happened in this relationship.
That's where the maturity and respect comes in.

In the past when it has happened, I walked out.
I went for a drive, a walk, a bike ride etc.
When I came back, I was able to address her calmly and tell her that what she did was unacceptable, and I will not stand for it.
If it continued to happen, I walked out and did not come back.

I demand the same respect I give.
If you reciprocate it just becomes a downward spiral.
If you don't put a stop to it, not only does it not end, it always gets worse.

When your partner attacks you personally you end up being on guard.
When you are on guard, you are defensive.
When you are defensive, you don't feel safe.

What kind of home do you have if you don't feel safe in it?
What kind of relationship do you have if you don't have real trust?

Am loving your posts one_raven.

Take it easy man.

Thanks.

It's nice to see that I am not alone here in this way of thinking.

Thanks.

It's nice to see that I am not alone here in this way of thinking.

You most certainly are not.:p

:( I know I know I am the outcast here......where the hell is baron would you help me out here? Anybody?????....come on . I cant be the only one who finds it hard to beleive that a couple in their lifetime
NEVER fight.

Thanks.

It's nice to see that I am not alone here in this way of thinking.

i have the same opinion as you, but i also think that if you are close to the person and respect them, then you will try to help them with the problem, because alot of the time when a person attacks others personaly, they might have a problem within them,

so helping them purge and heal there own problems can be effective for all concerned,

i will always try to help somebody as much as i can before walking out on them,


peace.

:( I know I know I am the outcast here......where the hell is baron would you help me out here?

Awwww....poor Shorty. :bawl: The whole world is out to get her.
Actually I think you and Raven are talking about the same thing, just a miscommunication.
I agree with Raven with his post...

That's where the maturity and respect comes in.

In the past when it has happened, I walked out.
I went for a drive, a walk, a bike ride etc.
When I came back, I was able to address her calmly and tell her that what she did was unacceptable, and I will not stand for it.....

What kind of relationship do you have if you don't have real trust?

How would you react if your SO started attacking you personally during an argument, Shorty? You don't seem like the type of woman to put up with any shit.

:( I know I know I am the outcast here......where the hell is baron would you help me out here? Anybody?????....come on . I cant be the only one who finds it hard to beleive that a couple in their lifetime
NEVER fight.

couples fight, but i dont liek fighting with women or my words, i have constructive debates with my voice, i fight with my weapon or my body,


ofcourse i have lost my temper in the past and faught with loved ones, but learning from your mistakes is vital, the best way to deal with a fight is to just not get involved in it,

as raven said walk away and give the person space, talk about it when you are calm, no sense will be made and no progress will come of it if you are angry.

biang calm and productive is key.

peace.

:( I know I know I am the outcast here......where the hell is baron would you help me out here?

It comforts you that a bitter, cynical, angry, old curmudgeon who has absolutely no faith in humanity or hope for the future agrees with you.
Think about that for a second....






Now ask yourself:
Have you always felt this way?
Do you want to end up like Max?

a bitter, cynical, angry, old curmudgeon


:roflmao:


peace.

Awwww....poor Shorty. :bawl: The whole world is out to get her.
Actually I think you and Raven are talking about the same thing, just a miscommunication.
I agree with Raven with his post...



How would you react if your SO started attacking you personally during an argument, Shorty? You don't seem like the type of woman to put up with any shit.

hmmmmm no i don't put up with any shit....and thats what causes alot of the fights.......anyhow this is getting way too personal and as nietzche has told me already.......you guys are going to take what i am saying and read between the lines that he is a prick. ( and I see his point) He is a good guy and I can't preach that I am an angel. We aren't perfect.....and yes we argue and yes we even fight...then we make up...I think we pretty much lead the life of alot of ppl.

You can all preach to me (no offence) about how you love everybody and nobody should fight.....and all is good and peachy in the world.....there is always a positive side.......well maybe I am just not as positive a person.
And frankly ppl that can be positive about EVERYTHING or find the positive in shitty situations i don't get along well with.

When I am asking points of view i get the feeling you might be thinking
its all personal stuff related to my life........some is and some is totally not.
I am just curious about other ppls thoughts on things.

News update we are having a tornado....lol

[QUOTE=one_raven;1430462]It comforts you that a bitter, cynical, angry, old curmudgeon who has absolutely no faith in humanity or hope for the future agrees with you.
Think about that for a second....


I can't help it I do agree with some things Baron says NOT ALL by any means but some. Does that make a bad person? or just that We may have a different opinion on some issues.

I really doubt i will end up like Baron.....and yeah i have felt this way a long time, very long.

News update we are having a tornado....lol

Oh shit, me too.

go and give the tornado a big hug, and show it howmuch you love it.

peace.

Oh shit, me too.

I am not kidding the basketball net almost ended up on my neighbours car windshield:eek: and its heavy

I am not kidding the basketball net almost ended up on my neighbours car windshield:eek: and its heavy
I'm not kidding eithter. 'Hurricane force winds' in NE ohio/NW PA.

I don't think nietzche's a prick at all.
I actually quite like him.
(though I can understand why he might fear that)

I also don't "love everybody".
You should stop listening to Max. ;)
You'd be amazed how often I bitch about people - Its surprising that I don't fight with my fiancee, how much I bitch about people.
Most people who know me think of me as kind of a misanthrope (I'm not really though).

I just think that most of what people think of as "just the way it is" is entirely unnecessary, and I'm not going to buy into their bullshit.

Just in time to drive home, Now i'm happy to have gas guzzleing 4x4in bessie.

drive safe.....dont want you to die before we have a fight
xoxoxo

Ps: don't read this thread till later lol

Everyone at work is crying like the bunch of pussies they are. lol
And i'm going to work out(they'd better be open!) so i'll WILL be ready to do battle tonight.

I don't think nietzche's a prick at all.
I actually quite like him.
(though I can understand why he might fear that)

I also don't "love everybody".
You should stop listening to Max. ;)
You'd be amazed how often I bitch about people - Its surprising that I don't fight with my fiancee, how much I bitch about people.
Most people who know me think of me as kind of a misanthrope (I'm not really though).

I just think that most of what people think of as "just the way it is" is entirely unnecessary, and I'm not going to buy into their bullshit.

and thats how i feel about my opinions and I am not buying into their bullshit......so we are kinda butting heads.

Everyone at work is crying like the bunch of pussies they are. lol
And i'm going to work out(they'd better be open!) so i'll WILL be ready to do battle tonight.

:bawl: Can't we just kiss and make up its the weekend....

Does that make a bad person?

Of course it doesn't make you a bad person.
It may make you cynical and negative - I haven't figured that out yet - and I feel like it is my job to try and counteract the effects of all the bitter, old Maxes out there.

Like I said yesterday on another thread...

What I find most interesting about cynicism is that the cynics often complain about the world and how self-serving people are - yet when someone DOES attempt to perform an act of simple kindness, they automatically recoil to their standard cynical posture, thus cynicism becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
It is the bitter cynics, themselves that cause the world to be a place that turns people into those they are so bitter about - namely, people like themselves.
Curious.

All it takes to end the cycle is the simple decision to end it.

Everyone at work is crying like the bunch of pussies they are. lol
And i'm going to work out(they'd better be open!) so i'll WILL be ready to do battle tonight.

lol.

peace.

hmmmmm no i don't put up with any shit....and thats what causes alot of the fights.......anyhow this is getting way too personal and as nietzche has told me already.......you guys are going to take what i am saying and read between the lines that he is a prick. ( and I see his point) He is a good guy and I can't preach that I am an angel. We aren't perfect.....and yes we argue and yes we even fight...then we make up...I think we pretty much lead the life of alot of ppl.
Hold on there toots. I never said nietzsche was a prick. I don't know him. And I did use the term SO (significant other), which could mean anyone you date.
I was just having fun with the conversation. I know it's hard to detect facetiousness and sarcasm through internet font. With the exception of a few members, everyone here is cool by me.

Hold on there toots. I never said nietzsche was a prick. I don't know him. And I did use the term SO (significant other), which could mean anyone you date.
I was just having fun with the conversation. I know it's hard to detect facetiousness and sarcasm through internet font. With the exception of a few members, everyone here is cool by me.

no no not you not anyone by names........just in general you may end up thinking that the way the way the conversation is going.

And its MS. toots to you

Cause i am never getting married again!

And its MS. toots to you

Cause i am never getting married again!

It should be Baroness Max, negative cynic! :D

It should be Baroness Max, negative cynic! :D

Shit that has a nice ring to it :rolleyes: I am naming myself that!!!

no no not you not anyone by names........just in general you may end up thinking that the way the way the conversation is going.

And its MS. toots to you

Cause i am never getting married again!


i thought you were married at the moment.

peace.

Shit that has a nice ring to it :rolleyes: I am naming myself that!!!

Puhlease request Plazma to change your username to Baronness Max.

Pretty please?

http://gronnevik.se/rjukan/uploads/Main/cute_kitten.s.jpg

i thought you were married at the moment.

peace.

no i WAS married for too long...

Puhlease request Plazma to change your username to Baronness Max.

Pretty please?

http://gronnevik.se/rjukan/uploads/Main/cute_kitten.s.jpg

I changed my title to the BARONESS ! lol

i thought you were married at the moment.

peace.

So did I.

Puhlease request Plazma to change your username to Baronness Max.

Pretty please?

http://gronnevik.se/rjukan/uploads/Main/cute_kitten.s.jpg

i will have your ears off like i did with that little cat.

peace.

no i WAS married for too long...

past winters shouldent effect new springs.

peace.

i will have your ears off like i did with that little cat.

peace.

You'll have to fight me first

http://www.cutelittlekittens.com/files/images/general/66_clk_148.jpg

So did I.

nope I WAS married for 8 yrs together 11.......
that ended.......

You'll have to fight me first

http://www.cutelittlekittens.com/files/images/general/66_clk_148.jpg

lol is that a real cat?


peace.

I changed my title to the BARONESS ! lol
I couldn't resist...
Shorty is a spitfire. She likes to fight, does not take any shit, and calls herself Baroness.
With that said, here is Shorty
http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/joe/baroness.gif

Holy shit i am HOTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

you need to post that under celebrities and look alikes for me
:D

Holy shit i am HOTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:


You're welcome.

You're welcome.

Thanks Jack ;)

Hey, shorty,

Did you happen to notice that even though we have disagreed quite a bit on this thread, it never once turned personal?
We've disagreed on other threads, and it didn't get personal there, either.
Interesting, huh? :bugeye:

Hey, shorty,

Did you happen to notice that even though we have disagreed quite a bit on this thread, it never once turned personal?
We've disagreed on other threads, and it didn't get personal there, either.
Interesting, huh? :bugeye:

when 2 people have mutual understading and respect, there is no need for personal negative emotion to get involved,

me and you always seem to have debates and dissagree and it is always calm and productive.

peace.

Thanks Jack ;)
I bet you call all the guys Jack, don't you?

Hey, shorty,

Did you happen to notice that even though we have disagreed quite a bit on this thread, it never once turned personal?
We've disagreed on other threads, and it didn't get personal there, either.
Interesting, huh? :bugeye:


Because i like you.....thats why....but its hard not to get personal when ppl are bullshitting and pretending to be other ppl......like you know who.

I can be civil you know. lol I am not a big brainiac and if some ppl think i am stupid making silly threads so be it....when i feel the real hate i will leave lol

I bet you call all the guys Jack, don't you?

no just you !

no just you !

what if a guy was called jack?

peace.

no just you !

Fair enough. Just as long as you don't think my last name is Off.
:p

when 2 people have mutual understading and respect, there is no need for personal negative emotion to get involved,

me and you always seem to have debates and dissagree and it is always calm and productive.

peace.

Exactly!

it helps that i am always right, though

Because i like you.....thats why
So let me get this straight... :bugeye:
You don't get personal with me because you like me, but you DO get personal with the person you are in a relationship with? :bugeye:
This doesn't need a response.
Just think about it.

we are having a baby girl. zues why. why zues, you mock me from up above dont you.


peace.

we are having a baby girl. zues why. why zues, you mock me from up above dont you.


peace.
Speaking of one of our biggest debates in history...
Are you going to name her Medussa?

hey even spongebob don't get along with squidward :bugeye:

Yeah but that's cause neither of them is getting laid.

Yeah but that's cause neither of them is getting laid.

Don't believe it.
Gary takes it from behind.

(and he is naturally lubed)

Idolater!

That must be on the real "Lost Episode". I knew the pirate was concealing something from us.

That's the thing; you can never really trust someone with a beard. You know?

Speaking of one of our biggest debates in history...
Are you going to name her Medussa?


no i dont care for her name, its not a boy so who cares, she can be called tinkerbell for all i care.

peace.

it was a joke before you start getting all buddhist on me.

peace.

Of all the fucked up names you mentioned in that argunment, I think Medussa is probably my favorite for a girl.

If being hated is important, then I feel this thread is very, very important.

Of all the fucked up names you mentioned in that argunment, I think Medussa is probably my favorite for a girl.

that wasnt my suggestion! somebody else said it, and if i said it then it was a joke because of how ugly i thought it was.


lol peace.

Exactly!

it helps that i am always right, though


So let me get this straight... :bugeye:
You don't get personal with me because you like me, but you DO get personal with the person you are in a relationship with? :bugeye:
This doesn't need a response.
Just think about it.

I dont get it :bugeye:

Idolater!

That must be on the real "Lost Episode". I knew the pirate was concealing something from us.

That's the thing; you can never really trust someone with a beard. You know?

i agree or with squinty pig eyes never trust them!

This guy qualify?

http://www.uglypeople.com/uploaded/110975/newpic12.jpg

Oookay..:bugeye:

It would appear this thread has run its course and is now degenerating into.. well.. whatever the hell is now is..

Sorry kiddies, since the topic itself appears to have been lost in the trenches of that fellow's toothless grin, I think Cesspool calls..:)

Nooooooooo whatever.

there is alot of good stuff in here damn i poured my heart out all afternoon to get shut down?

One can splash about in the sewer; there is room enough, if one does not mind the company.

I dont get it :bugeye:

You don't stoop to personal attacks with me out of respect, because you like me, correct?
Shouldn't two people in a relationship show each other AT LEAST the same level of respect?

Shouldn't two people in a relationship show each other AT LEAST the same level of respect?

Your idealism is .....ahh, well, nothing but idealism. The real world, the interaction between humans, seldom, if ever, follow the ideals that you would have us believe.

Baron Max

You don't stoop to personal attacks with me out of respect, because you like me, correct?
Shouldn't two people in a relationship show each other AT LEAST the same level of respect?

sure but I don't have the strong emotions and feelings for you that i do my partner....and really if we dont agree i dont have to live with you right, so it doesnt matter. But when you live with someone and you dont agree things can get heated...because stronger feelings are involved there.

Your idealism is .....ahh, well, nothing but idealism. The real world, the interaction between humans, seldom, if ever, follow the ideals that you would have us believe.

Baron Max

Hey you don't like my new handle? I got it because I agreed with you on some things about hate and fighting.....and was warned i might turn into you .
(can't remember what but it was nasty) lol

Hey you don't like my new handle? I got it because I agreed with you on some things about hate and fighting.....and was warned i might turn into you .
(can't remember what but it was nasty) lol

Right here in this thread...

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1430462&highlight=curmudgeon#post1430462

:( I know I know I am the outcast here......where the hell is baron would you help me out here?
It comforts you that a bitter, cynical, angry, old curmudgeon who has absolutely no faith in humanity or hope for the future agrees with you.
Think about that for a second....






Now ask yourself:
Have you always felt this way?
Do you want to end up like Max?

Right here in this thread...

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1430462&highlight=curmudgeon#post1430462

thanks lol I just mention baron cause he sticks out so much,
I don't HATE like he does .....but I do share (shame on me) some
of his views, not all and not exactly but some bits and pieces.

I don't HATE like he does.

Hate? I don't hate anything or anyone. But I also don't lie and claim that I love everyone and everything, either!

.....but I do share (shame on me) some
of his views, not all and not exactly but some bits and pieces.

Oh, my goodness! Hang your head in shame ....say three "Hail Mary's", then drink a bottle of good Irish whiskey, and go to bed. :D

Baron Max

Hey, I take the crown for the MOST HATED internet user !!!!!!!!!!!!!

why, Hey because I know what I talk about, and all the others just postulate old recycled garbage.

LOL

I put action into my understandings,,,, I make new things happen

eg running a car on water, 27 years ago... laughted and derided, slandered etc LOL, well..even by official that came to inspect the vehicle.... bunch of wankers... I have progressed so much further I dare not even give y'all a sneak preview

But HEY, I am here to leave, not to help anyone else

THAT IS WHY I AM HATED... y'all gonna die.... and I will not help you.

So keep on deriding people, keep on calling them liars, and keep on dying.

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