View Full Version : The fruits so far of Israels belligerant rampage so far


Brian Foley
08-04-06, 01:59 PM
Israel plans to reoccupy part of Lebanon (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006608040379)
The Israeli military began preparing to reoccupy southern Lebanon on Thursday, and Israeli officials conceded that their three-week bombing campaign has had no significant impact on Hizballah's ability to fire short-range rockets into northern Israel.To prove the point, Hizballah fired at least 200 rockets, killing eight people across northern Israel.
Funny how Hezbollah timed those 200 rockets just when Israel needed them to justify the stealing of another peoples' country, isn't it .
Israeli strike kills 33 farm workers in Lebanon (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/1,7340,L-3286305,00.html)
At least 33 farm workers, including many Kurds Syrians killed in IAF strike on trucks near Lebanon-Syria border
There will be a point, once Israel crosses the Syrian border one too many times in the name of alleged 'self defense' that Syria will be forced to respond.
Israel warns of consequences of Tel Aviv attack (http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=newsOne&storyID=2006-08-03T184043Z_01_L03453312_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-ISRAEL-NASRALLAH.xml)
Like Israel hasnt already destroyed Lebanon's infrastructure already .
Israel Attacks Lebanon's Christian Heartland (http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/israeli-attacks-isolate-lebanon-further/20060728045409990004?ncid=NWS00010000000001)
All you Christians who think Israel is your friend should take note.

And if you think the Arab world is mad now ........
Iraqi Shiites Chant 'Death to Israel' (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060804/D8J9JIL82.html)

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Carrying effigies of U.S. President George W. Bush, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Iraqi Shiites in their thousands gathered in a mass demonstration against Israel's bombing of Lebanon, Friday, Aug. 4, 2006, in the Sadr City area of Baghdad, Iraq. Over 200,000 Shiites filled the streets of the Shiite dominated Sadr City slum to attend a rally in support of Lebanon after Friday prayers.
Right so this hornets nest is about to explode over Israels actions , and take note the crowd is blaming America for Israels action . How long will it be before US soldiers begin paying for Israels actions in Lebanon .

And here is the powder keg:
Police brace for clashes in Jerusalem over shrine visit (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060802/wl_mideast_afp/mideastisraeljerusalem)
JERUSALEM (AFP) - Israeli Police were bracing for clashes in Jerusalem between Palestinians and Jewish extremists who want to enter Islam's third holiest shrine, the Al-Aqsa mosque compound.
And guess which country will be expected to send soldiers to defend Israel when the the region explodes from Israels deliberate provocation ? America .

The Devil Inside
08-04-06, 02:25 PM
*harrassment alert*

all blustering and conjecture.

otheadp
08-04-06, 02:46 PM
Israeli Police were bracing for clashes in Jerusalem between Palestinians and Jewish extremists who want to enter Islam's third holiest shrine, the Al-Aqsa mosque compound.

you can trust the AFP to tell you like it is...

1) the Jews who want to go there don't give a shit about the al-Aqsa mosque. they want to go to the Temple Mount - the ruins of the first and second Jewish Temples fro biblical times - the first holiest shrine in Judaism

2) they are no more extremists than the hundreds of thousands of Muslims who get to prey almost whenever they want in their al-Aqsa.

Jews are not allowed to go to their own holliest site by their own governmentbecause the fear of savage animals stabbing, stoning, and lynching them... while Israeli Arabs, and even "Palestinians" get to go there whenever da camel fuck they want (with restrictions sometimes)

even the Israeli Supreme Court's decision a few days ago that Jews should be allowed to pray at their own holliest site doesn't prevent the police from stopping Jews from doing that... why? see above...

and AFP is distributing these disgusting lies!
i'm not religious but this sort of disgusting doublestandard makes my blood boil

S.A.M.
08-04-06, 03:28 PM
Like Israel hasnt already destroyed Lebanon's infrastructure already .

A totally pointess enterprise.
The Hezbollah are too well trained to not have anticipated this.

I believe the Hezbollah is still using its reserve force in the villages; I haven't seen anything to suggest they are using their combat force. And based on their previous experience with Israel, I'd say the Hezbollah is stocked for at least 6 months of fighting, with self contained units all over Lebanon. They've been preparing for six years. And they are showing their hands very slowly. I don't think we have seen the worst they have to offer yet.

crazy151drinker
08-04-06, 03:38 PM
Funny how Hezbollah timed those 200 rockets just when Israel needed them to justify the stealing of another peoples' country, isn't it .

Are you trying to insinuate that Isreal fired those 200 rockets at itself?? You cant be that retarded....


There will be a point, once Israel crosses the Syrian border one too many times in the name of alleged 'self defense' that Syria will be forced to respond.

Syria would get stomped and you know it. By all means let them come.

Since Iran is so intent of supplying Hezbollah with all these missles they might as well step up to the plate too. Take care of both of them once and for all.

thedevilsreject
08-04-06, 03:41 PM
Syria would get stomped and you know it. By all means let them come.

Since Iran is so intent of supplying Hezbollah with all these missles they might as well step up to the plate too. Take care of both of them once and for all.

are you being serious, you wouldnt win against syria and iran

S.A.M.
08-04-06, 03:41 PM
are you being serious, you wouldnt win against syria and iran

The US would get involved immediately.

After all Israel have admitted they can't stop the Hezbollah and they are only about 4000 to 5000.

thedevilsreject
08-04-06, 03:50 PM
After all Israel have admitted they can't stop the Hezbollah and they are only about 4000 to 5000.
plus it would be an entirley different war than at the moment, im actually surprised at the restraint that hizbollah has used at the moment, syria and iran wouldnt think twice at sticking a missile in tel aviv

crazy151drinker
08-04-06, 04:08 PM
You are right- it would be a different war. An all out war. Isreal would stomp the %%%% out of syria and Iran. Let Iran shot missles at Tel Aviv- you dont think Isreal can bomb Tehran?

thedevilsreject
08-04-06, 04:10 PM
no, you would pussy out after 5 minutes and then go running of to the un and us who they have been ignoring over the lebanon crisis

Brian Foley
08-04-06, 04:17 PM
A totally pointess enterprise.
The Hezbollah are too well trained to not have anticipated this.
Of course it is , but it wont stop this Israeli savagery it is set to get worse after last night deliberate bombing:
UN warns Lebanon aid supply could be cut off (http://www.irishexaminer.com/breaking/story.asp?j=220641690&p=zzx64z5x5&n=220642576&x=)
Israel’s heavy overnight bombing of Beirut’s main access road to the north has severed the last major overland route to bring relief supplies into Lebanon, international aid agencies said today.
When all else fails attack the civilians starvation generally works .
I believe the Hezbollah is still using its reserve force in the villages; I haven't seen anything to suggest they are using their combat force.
Fact is Hezbollah is tearing the IDF a new orifice , this is a despatch from Israel about their latest casualties :
Four soldiers killed in battles with Hezbollah (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/746296.html)
Four Israeli soldiers were killed yesterday in fighting with Hezbollah in Lebanon.
According to the Israel Defense Forces, Hezbollah suffered dozens of casualties in yesterday's fighting.
Notice the indefinite and small IDF "dozens" casualties for Hezbollah , clearly an indication the freedom fighters of Hezbollah are matching Israel . And clearly seeing Hezbollah fired 200 rockets into Israel yesterday they have plenty in store , I say you are right Israel is to scared to front up toe to toe with Hezbollah , Israel would eventually beat by attrition but thats it .
And based on their previous experience with Israel, I'd say the Hezbollah is stocked for at least 6 months of fighting, with self contained units all over Lebanon. They've been preparing for six years. And they are showing their hands very slowly.
For an all out clash with Israel I would estimate fierce fighting for 2 weeks followed by 4 weeks of intense clashs , eventually superior Israeli manpower and equipment will take there toll , but is Israel ready to sacrifice 1,000+ KIA ?
I don't think we have seen the worst they have to offer yet.
True Israel has barely scratched the surface in confronting Hezbollah .
Israel launches deepest Lebanon strike (http://www.zeenews.com/znnew/articles.asp?aid=313005&sid=WOR)
The ferocity of the battles in Baalbek and across southern Lebanon, coupled with the determination of the Israelis to keep fighting and the minimal diplomatic progress toward a cease-fire so far, indicated the three-week-old war is likely to escalate further.
Read the article Israels kill tally is 10 or 7 here and there very pitiful .
Are you trying to insinuate that Isreal fired those 200 rockets at itself?? You cant be that retarded....
Did I say that ? No I am insinuating Israel allowed Hezbollah to fire those rockets to manufacture consent of expoanding its war in Lebanon . If a dozen rockets hit Israel , Id be more believing , but 200 !
Syria would get stomped and you know it. By all means let them come.
Or Israel as I pointed out on another thraed is attempting to draw Syria into the fray .
Mine explodes near Israel-Syria border (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3284399,00.html)
Landmine exploded Sunday on Syrian side of Israel-Syria border on Sunday; military officials say incident possible attempt by Hizbullah to drag Syria into conflict
This comes from Israel , it says to me Israeli agents are attempting an incident and blaming it on Hezbollah . As for Syria getting stomped the only thing that stoped Israel getting its Airforce shot out oiver the sky over Lebanon in its 82 invasion by Syrian air defences was US technology handed to them and the arrival of US troops .
Since Iran is so intent of supplying Hezbollah with all these missles they might as well step up to the plate too. Take care of both of them once and for all.
Isartel would not beat Iran , whence , Israel is crawling behind Americas back for protection , having said that how about you go to Israel and lend your military training in roting out Hezbollah .

Brian Foley
08-04-06, 04:20 PM
Let Iran shot missles at Tel Aviv- you dont think Isreal can bomb Tehran?
Thats the plan alright , Israel will bomb Tehran and when the Iranians retaliate they will have to go through Iraq , and guess who is sitting in Iraq ? 150,000 US service personnel , you guessed it Americans will fight Iran tooth and nail for something Israel will start . Therby Israel getting rid of a future adversary .

Genji
08-04-06, 04:27 PM
Plus all the 'moderate' countries in the ME such as Jordan and the Gulf states will pay a heavy price for being suckups to US/Israeli policy in the region. Something that greatly benefited them before is now a curse of death. The whole game of bringing Arab states into the moderate world of democracy has come to a screeching halt as Israel feeds the flames of the anti-Israeli/US powderkeg. With a US administration that views diplomacy as a weakness, it will be interesting watching it all unravel, finally, for the neo-con agenda. Bring It On.

Genji
08-04-06, 04:30 PM
Thats the plan alright , Israel will bomb Tehran and when the Iranians retaliate they will have to go through Iraq , and guess who is sitting in Iraq ? 150,000 US service personnel , you guessed it Americans will fight Iran tooth and nail for something Israel will start . Therby Israel getting rid of a future adversary .
Scary scenario but on target. A swath of civil war stretching from Lebanon to Iran. And the US thought they could keep the Iraqi Shia on their side! That's washed away as well. I can only hope Tel Aviv burns over the weekend.

Brian Foley
08-04-06, 04:39 PM
Plus all the 'moderate' countries in the ME such as Jordan and the Gulf states will pay a heavy price for being suckups to US/Israeli policy in the region. Something that greatly benefited them before is now a curse of death. The whole game of bringing Arab states into the moderate world of democracy has come to a screeching halt as Israel feeds the flames of the anti-Israeli/US powderkeg. With a US administration that views diplomacy as a weakness, it will be interesting watching it all unravel, finally, for the neo-con agenda. Bring It On.
As evebnts are unfolding Israelis themselves are getting a little more than worried about a post US dominated region :
The war against Hezbollah could leave the Jewish state even more isolated and insecure (http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=16280)
The mideast is unanimous in its support of Hezbollah , tells me Isreal is in for a very turbulent future .
Scary scenario but on target. A swath of civil war stretching from Lebanon to Iran. And the US thought they could keep the Iraqi Shia on their side! That's washed away as well.
Thats the idea get others to fight your wars .
I can only hope Tel Aviv burns over the weekend.
I hope Gaza is given a reprieve from its daily bombing and sanctions , the human beings of Gaza are the forgotten ones here .

S.A.M.
08-04-06, 04:43 PM
Of course it is , but it wont stop this Israeli savagery it is set to get worse after last night deliberate bombing:

When all else fails attack the civilians starvation generally works .


Yes but its the same tactic that Israel has used in Gaza before, so I doubt it will be a big surprise to the Hezbollah.


Fact is Hezbollah is tearing the IDF a new orifice , this is a despatch from Israel about their latest casualties :

Frankly all the figures so far are from the Israelis since Hezbollah is keeping mum and except for the rockets what evidence is there of any Hezbollah engagement? I haven't seen any dead bodies from the so-called engagements, no names of "captured commandos" no evidence of a hand-to-hand fight except that anti-tank weapons have been used.

I remember the IDF declared in bint Jbeil that they had a massive encounter with the Hezbollah, but the CNN crew found no evidence of anything except remnants of Israeli missiles. NO evidence of shooting. Weird, if you ask me. The only place where there has been evidence of shooting is at the hospital where the IDF landed on the roof with 10 helicopters overhead (yes, 10) and the helicopters fired at the people coming out, since most damage to the building was on the outside. Again they killed 10 people and captured 5 but no names !

Israel refused to identify the guerrillas it had captured at Baalbek

Why? And what happened to the bodies of the 10 commandos they killed?

Notice the indefinite and small IDF "dozens" casualties for Hezbollah , clearly an indication the freedom fighters of Hezbollah are matching Israel . And clearly seeing Hezbollah fired 200 rockets into Israel yesterday they have plenty in store , I say you are right Israel is to scared to front up toe to toe with Hezbollah , Israel would eventually beat by attrition but thats it .

I don't trust any numbers coming out of the IDF.

For an all out clash with Israel I would estimate fierce fighting for 2 weeks followed by 4 weeks of intense clashs , eventually superior Israeli manpower and equipment will take there toll , but is Israel ready to sacrifice 1,000+ KIA ?

The last time the Hezbollah won the war by assassinating the leader of the SLA.
I wonder what they have planned for this time.

True Israel has barely scratched the surface in confronting Hezbollah .

Reporters have been trying very hard to get a Hezbollah interview, without success; they will not give out anything

Read the article Israels kill tally is 10 or 7 here and there very pitiful .

I wonder how many IDF have actually died; Israel called for 10,000 more reservationists today.

Brian Foley
08-04-06, 05:18 PM
Yes but its the same tactic that Israel has used in Gaza before, so I doubt it will be a big surprise to the Hezbollah.
Of course there is nothing unique about this tactic , its just the frequency of its implementation on defenceless human beings that annoys me .
Frankly all the figures so far are from the Israelis since Hezbollah is keeping mum and except for the rockets what evidence is there of any Hezbollah engagement? I haven't seen any dead bodies from the so-called engagements, no names of "captured commandos" no evidence of a hand-to-hand fight except that anti-tank weapons have been used.
That is true , I find the Israeli advance into Lebanon suspect , it is very staggered and the amount of clash's the IDF report with Hezbollah seems contrived and claims of damage to Hezbollah weaponery is suspect especially after last nights firing of 200 rockets into Israel .
I remember the IDF declared in bint Jbeil that they had a massive encounter with the Hezbollah, but the CNN crew found no evidence of anything except remnants of Israeli missiles. NO evidence of shooting. Weird
I watched on TV the other night where a gunfight took place we saw 5 IDF dead and the wounded were being flown out in helicopters but we never saw the Hezbollah casualties . The next night I watched BBC and they were with an IDF officer whenfiring broke they turned around and got out , even though there were plenty of IDF trops and tanks . You are right IDF figures and despatchs are manufactured by the propaganda dept , it seems the reality of the ground conflict must be kept shrouded in secrecy .
I don't trust any numbers coming out of the IDF.
Neither do I , I was commenting on the low figures the IDF were giving , it seems to me that the media and relief organisations are on the case here and are ready to rectify any IDF propaganda . The public world opinion sees Israels actions as cowardly and are getting behind the Palestinians regardless of what their plutocratic bosses demand of them , no one like cowardice.
The last time the Hezbollah won the war by assassinating the leader of the SLA.
I wonder what they have planned for this time.
Lets hope it is decisive , and I hope IDF Generals and Airmen stand trial for war crimes against humanity post conflict .
Reporters have been trying very hard to get a Hezbollah interview, without success; they will not give out anything
Would you trust the media especially the Western media , but this has had an effect on the media they realise they are not trusted so this explains some of the sharp criticism being offered at Israel . Seems to be a PR campaign to garner some trust .
I wonder how many IDF have actually died; Israel called for 10,000 more reservationists today.
Id say well over 100 nearing 200 .

crazy151drinker
08-04-06, 05:34 PM
You are nuts if they think Isreal can be destroyed. They would revert to nuclear weapons before that would happen. Iran and Syria would be GONE.

Isreal doesnt have to invade Syria. All it has to do is destroy its Military and teach it an expensive lesson.

crazy151drinker
08-04-06, 05:35 PM
Lets not forget that Iran has alot to lose here. If they go to far Isreal will find a reason to blow up their nuclear facilities and set them back 10 years.

Genji
08-04-06, 05:37 PM
You are nuts if they think Isreal can be destroyed. They would revert to nuclear weapons before that would happen. Iran and Syria would be GONE.

Isreal doesnt have to invade Syria. All it has to do is destroy its Military and teach it an expensive lesson.
You can bet your recipe would lead to Mutually Assured Destruction. There is no reason to think Israel is guaranteed eternal life. She's only been around since '48. Israel would already be gone if they had to fight their own battles.

Creeping Death
08-04-06, 06:11 PM
The Land shall be Reduced To Dust and The Corpses Of Its Inhabitants Scattered Across Its Dwelling Places Until A Treaty Will Come To Pass Saving In Store For The Final Destruction By The Annointed One.

S.A.M.
08-04-06, 06:21 PM
The Land shall be Reduced To Dust and The Corpses Of Its Inhabitants Scattered Across Its Dwelling Places Until A Treaty Will Come To Pass Saving In Store For The Final Destruction By The Annointed One.

Make a point, if you can. And the Title text is irritating.

deicide128
08-04-06, 09:22 PM
they already taught syria that lesson thats why syria isnt being more aggressive because they know it will be futile.

Genji
08-04-06, 09:30 PM
they already taught syria that lesson thats why syria isnt being more aggressive because they know it will be futile.
Syria does have older Soviet equipment and weapons and is no match to US firepower, handled by Israelis, (the key) but the Syrians haven't been sitting on their hands all these years. They have dug in and they have a close relationship with Iran, who do have a powerful military, hardened after a decade of fighting US backed Saddam Hussein in the 80's. Israel could definately inflict heavy losses and the usual Jewish destruction on Syria, but by doing so they will have made themselves the most effective recruiting tool for their enemies' agenda. Syria has Scud missles and could hit all of Israel, not to mention some chemical defenses as well.

Brian Foley
08-04-06, 10:36 PM
The Land shall be Reduced To Dust and The Corpses Of Its Inhabitants Scattered Across Its Dwelling Places Until A Treaty Will Come To Pass Saving In Store For The Final Destruction By The Annointed One.
And prophey from Christ regarding Israel;
So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house. Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
Matthew 24 16-25