I have been writing down my dreams lately and last night I had a vivid experience of having a dream within a dream within a dream. When I finally awoke I was unsure that I was really awake and I was quite uneasy. I immediately grabbed the notebook next to my bed and wrote one word - 'fractal'. This word instantly and completely described what I had just experienced. I felt I was in a fractal dream. No matter how many layers or levels of consciousness I was in, it all seemed the same at that moment.

The idea came to me that our very universe could be a fractal. Infinite largeness and infinite smallness all wrapped in a finite area. No matter how far out we look (or how far in) we will see the same pattern repeated.

I plan on studying fractals and seeing if this idea is workable...

If anyone has any fractal theory knowledge, I'd like to hear what you think.

They can be applied to almost anything, the idea that smaller things are repeated on consistently larger scales is a mind boggling one.

What's even more mind boggling is that such a simple thing is so profoundly prolific in our universe. Psychologically, physically, mathematically, nothing and everything is merely a larger or smaller representation of something else.

I think the pattern has to stop somewhere, however, since things do not keep getting smaller and smaller, therefore they must likewise not keep getting bigger and bigger. This is merely a presumption though.

He remarks: aahhhhh, finally, someone started a fractals thread!

Pollux,
How do you think quarks and leptons would fit in a fractal model? It is easy to see where the atom fits...but if you break it down further it gets fuzzy. Any thoughts on this?

How do you think quarks and leptons would fit in a fractal model? It is easy to see where the atom fits...but if you break it down further it gets fuzzy. Any thoughts on this?

As long as we realize it is our understanding that gets fuzzy, and not the particles, we should be just fine...

Yes our understanding is fuzzy for sure. But aren't the particles a little fuzzy also in the sense that they are unpredictable?

Could these particles be related to dark matter? That is the only thing on a macro level that I can relate.

How do you think quarks and leptons would fit in a fractal model? It is easy to see where the atom fits...but if you break it down further it gets fuzzy. Any thoughts on this?

My thoughts:

If you could look at the atoms of any element from a distance, no matter their chemical state (solid, liquid, vapor) they would be moving around, very quickly as a matter of fact. This would look kind of blurry, presumably, and so do quarks and leptons, since I'm guessing they move around at the speed of light. You hopefully have your answer.