View Full Version : The end of Iraq is in about 2 years...


nico
12-16-03, 06:14 PM
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By OLIVER MOORE
Globe and Mail Update

The Iraqi Foreign Minister laid out the details Tuesday for a resumption of sovereignty that calls for nationwide elections by the end of 2005, but he warned that movement toward democracy depends on the establishment of a stable and secure country.

"Progress will continue to depend on the security situation in Iraq," Hoshyar Zebari told the United Nations Security Council, hours after news of a fierce gunfight about 100 kilometres north of Baghdad.

"The capture of Saddam Hussein will deal a huge blow to his misguided former loyalists," Mr. Zebari said confidently. He called for a quick return of the United Nations and urged those on the sidelines to realize that the battle being waged in Iraq is crucial for the stability of the Middle East and beyond.

"The consequences of allowing the terrorists to win in Iraq will spill over our borders and no country will be safe," he said.



http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20031216.wiraq1216/BNStory/International/

Democracy in Iraq...fat chance. So who wants to cut what up what's left?

nico
12-16-03, 06:22 PM
Let me see who will carve Iraq? I think as long as the US stay's in Iraq things will be unified. BUT superfically only, I don't think democracy in Iraq can work for many reasons. The election will happen yes, will it be fair? I don't think so. Will the outcome settle Iraq down? Quite the opposite. Will Iraq be soverign? No way. Once that election takes place every country in the region will have her say, and so will the major powers. That's only one reason why it won;t work.

dsdsds
12-17-03, 08:59 AM
It's a big mess. It's becoming more obvious that the whole of Iraq will never again (or not for a very long time) have life as good as they had it with Saddam Hussein.

hypewaders
12-17-03, 05:50 PM
The US has recklessy set Iraq on the brink of a horrific civil war, and is now cluelessly experimenting with Israeli, Soviet, and neocolonialist tactics to hold it all together, lacking the popular support and expertise necessary to introduce even basic law and order. Iraq already has died unexpectedly. Now the violent emergence of something new begins.

ranxer
12-17-03, 06:51 PM
it would be hilarious if it didn't involve the lives and deaths of so many people that America thinks it can plant it's (my, argh) flag in the middle east and declare that democracy will be the rule.

as many a peacenik said before the war.. any attempt at establishing a government through militarism and american power over there will be sabotaged by so many enemies it won't be funny. really, i don't understand how anyone can believe we can acomplish this.

here, ill put a gun to yer head and tell you to play fair.. now.. doesnt that feel better now that you are calm? relax.. don't think about this gun.. think about yer future.. ok now.. you will cooperate with these corporations and play fair.. or um, i might pull the trigger. there doesnt that feel better?

holy fuckin hell. literally.

oh and by the way .. you now owe us a ton of cash for killing yer people and apprehending your leader.

nico
12-17-03, 08:57 PM
Indeed the neo-cons thought that somehow that Iraq will emerge with dandelions and peace loving Iraqi's in a massive orgy of love in an election. We'll have an orgy alright, of civil war, death, exploitation, and foreign influence. Who stands to gain from this impending civil war? Iran by helping the Shi'a, and thus gaining even more influence in the South. Syria, Jordan, S.A, in the Sunni areas, and those poor Kurds, they get Turkey. Israel will be in there to make sure those Shi'a don't get into power. All this is bound to happen, if the US leaves. The US says it will...when? Notice the ppl who vote yes, are oddly silent. Logical deduction tells me they are voting out of spite. ;)

certified psycho
12-19-03, 09:37 PM
A pepsi sponsered uprising:D

Undecided
12-19-03, 09:42 PM
You wear guilt
Like shackles on your feet
Like a halo in reverse

I can feel
The discomfort in your seat
And in your head it's worse

There's a pain
A famine in your heart
An aching to be free

Can't you see
All love's luxuries
Are here for you an me

And when our worlds
They fall apart
When the walls come tumbling in
Though we may deserve it
It will be worth it

Bring your chains
Your lips of tragedy
And fall into my arms

And when our worlds
They fall apart
When the walls come tumbling in
Though we may deserve it
It will be worth it.

*Depeche Mode, Halo*

To me that song sums up Iraq.