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Quantum Quack
12-04-03, 07:32 PM
So often when we give reasons for our choices we talk long and hard about the attraction to the choice.
Why it was so attractive and why we made that choice.

Could it be more pertinent to discuss why other choices were rejected than why choices where accepted.

What identifies us as individuals and allows us to exist as seemingly independent of each other is our ability to reject from our thoughts, ambitions and lives things that we don’t want and in doing so invite things we do want.

A person when reading this post has the ability to reject what I have written or accept what I have written ( or alternatively be indifferent, a form of rejection, to what I have written)

It is this ability to reject what I have written that gives the person the ability to choose. therefore free will and ego identification ( the " I " ) is achieved.

If you are unable to reject then it is true that your acceptance lacks value ( insane )

It is the ability to reject a thought or an idea that gives you the freedom of self determination. Deciding what and who you are.

I am aware this is not an original idea but I thought it worth posting my thoughts on the subject any way

It reminds me of a famous advertising thingo
"It's the fish that ^John West^ rejects that makes ^John West^ the best!"

What say you?

gendanken
12-04-03, 11:21 PM
Quack:
Could it be more pertinent to discuss why other choices were rejected than why choices where accepted.


Far more pertinent and healthy to weigh both. One would never know their rejections without the things one acknowledges to know them by.

I only wonder at your bias for rejection?

If you are unable to reject then it is true that your acceptance lacks value ( insane )

Acceptance of self and life implies a rejection of things such as ennui. How would this make one unable to reject if you did so by choosing acceptance?


You sound like Camus on crack.

Mephura
12-04-03, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by Quantum Quack
So often when we give reasons for our choices we talk long and hard about the attraction to the choice.
Why it was so attractive and why we made that choice.

Could it be more pertinent to discuss why other choices were rejected than why choices where accepted.

Pertinent to who is the question I would be asking. (I guess I just did.) Really, I tend to look at the choices I make based on whether they are the lowest loss (ie, why I rejected the others) or benifits me (was attractive).
Most people I know of don't automatically find every choice they make attractive. Rather, alot of them are least painful of a bunch. Chances are that it just depends on your outlook on life.


What identifies us as individuals and allows us to exist as seemingly independent of each other is our ability to reject from our thoughts, ambitions and lives things ...gives the person the ability to choose. therefore free will and ego identification ( the " I " ) is achieved.

I can't understand why you are trying ot put more importance on one or the other. You can't have one with out the other. If I reject a statement because it is false, i accept that it isn't true. It's just semanticas, man....


If you are unable to reject then it is true that your acceptance lacks value ( insane )

What about someone unable to accept? Are they any less insane?

It is the ability to reject a thought or an idea that gives you the freedom of self determination. Deciding what and who you are.

Again, just semantics. It's like math. If I subtract a number, I am just adding it's opposite. Acceptance and rejection go hand in hand. You can't have one without the other.

I am aware this is not an original idea but I thought it worth posting my thoughts on the subject any way

It reminds me of a famous advertising thingo
"It's the fish that ^John West^ rejects that makes ^John West^ the best!"

What say you?

Wouldn't know. It might be original... Then again, the whole concept of saying that the head side of a coin is more important than the tails side seems kind of silly to me.

Quantum Quack
12-05-03, 02:51 AM
an idea of where I am coming from.

When a child grows into a teenager, he finds himself under enormous societal and parental pressure.

He naturally attempts to reject all this stuff and rebels against society and his parents ( a cliche).

What he is really doing is trying to assert himself and his desire to be self determined. He is rejecting the views even though he knows they are in some way correct because he is trying to acieve his adult self determined state.

Life has many opportunities. There are by far many more opportunities to act in error that without.

Our ability to reject allows us to achieve a life of less mistakes.
It is much easier to make a mistake than not to.


Of course both sides of the coin are necessary ( deductive reasoning ...I think it's called)

I think you'll be surprised if you look closely that the amount we reject is by far more than we accept.