For all those who gnawed and growled at the grunge image, Seattle weekly The Stranger interviewed photographer Charles Peterson about his latest book, released October 23. Steve Turner, of Mudhoney, just happened to be hanging out.

http://www.thestranger.com/2003-10-23/feature2.html When you look at the older pictures, do you start to miss the clubs or bands that aren't around anymore?

CP: The fact that I'm almost 40 means that I don't miss punk shows, period, but I do feel slightly nostalgic for [Oddfellows] Hall shows.

ST: They got thrashed all the time. It was a given that the first thing that was gonna go was the toilet. And then the sink was gonna get ripped from the wall, and a window was gonna get broken, and someone was gonna write their band name really fucking big on a wall. But I still go to see punk shows....

CP: [Moving on, flipping the page] That's the place where [Mudhoney's] Matt [Lukin] and Mark [Arm] were peeing in the sink. For whatever reason, at that place in Bristol, the bathrooms were down the hall, so they'd have literally 30 seconds before the show started, and they would've had to go down the hall, negotiate crazy British fans, and then go back to the backstage [area], just to go pee.

ST: We used to use garbage cans a lot, too [laughs]. If there's no bathroom backstage, what're you gonna do? If a club doesn't realize they should put a fucking toilet backstage, sorry. It's their own fault. So why not read up on two people who played vital roles in the movement you loathe so greatly.

To the other, for those who think affectionately of the music that would become known as grunge, hey, The Stranger did an interview with Charles Peterson and Steve Turner. Check it out.

(See some Peterson photographs at http://www.neumu.net/depth_of_field/charles_peterson/depth_peterson_text.shtml )