The Stars Are Right, or How I met the Crawling Chaos

Discussion in 'Physics & Math' started by Roman, Jul 15, 2006.

  1. Roman Banned Banned

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    In a recent issue of New Scientist, physicists claimed that it would be possible create an alternate universe.

    Warning: watered down theoretical physics told in dum-dum speak.

    Alright, here's how I understood it:

    When the right subatomic particles are smashed together really fast, they supposedly form superdense particles, or miniture black hole that collapse in on themselves. If there was a way to reverse this, one could create an expanding "bubble" that would be discontinous from our own space-time continuum and expand forever, as a seperate universe.

    Bubbles can be formed, but the bubbles always end up bursting in on themselves as time-differences (or something) cause a difference in "pressure" between the inside and outside of the bubble. But with some sort of outside force to reinforce the bubble, it would not collapse, but expand eternally.

    Enter the monopole. A particle that should exist, but is so rare no one's ever seen one. It has only one magnetic pole. For reasons I'm not sure of, smashing a bunch of particles into it at super high speeds would get its density high enough to skip the blackhole and go straight to alternate universe expansion.

    So immediately I'm thinking "omg, we're all doomed as an alternate universe expands, crushing everything." Luckily, this mini universe is non-Euclidean (Lurking Horrors, take note), so will not disturb anything. In fact, when the little drop of alternity is created, their will be a tiny wormhole connecting their world and ours, before it closes in a tiny poof of Hawking's radiation.

    This, of course, is the perfect time for Them to crawl through.


    But uh, your thoughts, fears, dreams of madness or ensuing insanity?
     
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  3. Vern Registered Senior Member

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    I read the article. That idea has been around for awhile. It seems to me that what comes out of particle collisions is different forms of the energy that went into accelerating the particles.
     
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  5. MacM Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, conservation of energy would seem to prohibit a particle from becoming an entire universe as you and I would think of which contained trillions of stars, people, etc. Instead of alternative universe I would think at best you would be talking about an alternative particle. That is a particle which doesn't exist in our universe but might come into existance in an alternative universe should such a thing exist already.
     
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  7. Vern Registered Senior Member

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    Most of us would consider the absence of the monopole an indication that maybe we don't quite have the theory just exactly right.
     
  8. Vern Registered Senior Member

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    Yes; but when we do get the alternative particle, we'll all rejoice and call it the Higgs Boson. We have plenty of wiggle room to make the Higgs fit whatever the alternative particle looks like.

    My guess is that we'll find hugely massive but very shot lived particles when we are able to pump enough energy to make the Higgs. And we'll call it the Higgs, but there'll be several flavors of it.
     
  9. baumgarten fuck the man Registered Senior Member

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    How can we use this new technology as a weapon?
     
  10. Walter L. Wagner Cosmic Truth Seeker Valued Senior Member

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    Warning: Watered-down factual assumptions.

    Magnetic Monopoles likely do exist, striking earth regularly in pairs, and decaying into a shower of particles (as explanation for 1E22 eV cosmic ray showers). Please see my post in Astronomy section of earlier today, under 'The Sun', pertaining to magnetic monopole searches by many in the 1950s-1970s, resulting in one such find in 1975.

    Also, please note that recently theorists have posited that the RHIC creates ultra-miniature black holes along the lines I suggested in 1999, which thereafter quickly evaporate via Hawking radiation and are therefore safe if ultra-small, as I also suggested in 1999 in that Scientific American letter to the Editors.

    I suspect the theorists/physicists who published in New Scientist are likewise unaware of the substantial evidence for the existence of massive magnetic monopoles, as well as the theorists who have posited the creation of ultra-miniature black holes at the RHIC.

    What will they dream up next?
     
  11. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    Ask your enemy in for tea. Place his chair under the crane holding one of the magnets ... you know the rest of the story.

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  12. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    I like the way you think!
     
  13. CANGAS Registered Senior Member

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    Roman: but uh, you have long since proved that you are a nut case, so, it is not possible to take anything you say seriously. Including anything that you ask about.

    Go back into your halucination, perchance to dream. The insanity you have already been inhabiting is more than enough for me or any other sane person. No more from you, thank you.
     

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