The REAL federal deficit literally dwarfs the official tally

Discussion in 'Business & Economics' started by Michael, Jun 25, 2012.

  1. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    Real federal deficit dwarfs official tally

    See, this is what happened. The public sector unions weren't happy they had excellent job security, great benefits, the Cadillac of medical coverage, pay raises on time not performance and vacation time to dream for. They wanted MORE. They also wanted earlier retirement and Porsche pension.

    Knowing full well that they couldn't afford all this, the politicians just promised them a Lamborghini pension if they could just keep present wages down to only 25% higher than the Private sector that pays their wage. Reluctantly they agreed. Well well. Ooops, did we forget to mention there'd be NO money when retirement time came around. Boo Hoo.

    Because for many babyboomers, that time is now. We're broke.

    So? What to do? Well, I have an idea! How about we stick it to the next generation good and deep. We sell bonds to China, Japan and anyone who'll buy them! Oh, but still we don't have enough

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    I know! Let's tax the rich! Steve Jobs, you SOB! You use the roads!!! You have to pay us!!! Oh, but still broke.

    So? What are we to do?
    BillyT seems to think we're going to print, print and print some more. You know, destroy the pensions of the PRIVATE sector employees who actually did an honest day's worth of work.

    Will we? I'm inclined to think we will too. But, it's hard to say. Counties could just file bankruptcy and take it to court.


    We'll see. One thing is for sure: we're f*cked. Or, at least some of us are...
     
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  3. Buddha12 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, I've said that for over 20 years now ever since they kept allowing more and more debt to increase and not getting anything in new taxes to pay for it. This government enjoys spending others money any way they can and have established new agencies adding to an already bloated employee staff that has been gaining personnel in the state and counties just as much by giving the states money to fund those new agencies from the Federal government again without any new taxes to pay for them.
     
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  5. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Maybe you guys ought to shut down your overseas wars and cut back on military spending. Good idea?
     
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  7. Buddha12 Valued Senior Member

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    Over 4 trillion was spent on bailouts of banks, another 2 trillion was used to help the mortgage industry, another 4 trillion was to go to war with two countries that we didn't need to go to war with.
     
  8. data2.0 Registered Senior Member

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    Perhaps numerous steps should be put in place to reduce the deficit but retain enough spending in important aspects like government employees such as teachers,police, firefighters, nurses. Also money in infrastructure which would create jobs to repair our old systems. A new plan to replace medicare, medicaid, and social security but one that is more cost efficient. The main problem there of course is the pharmaceutical companies which are just, just terrible. Cutting our defense budget in half or more seeing as we're outspending the rest of the world in it significantly. Raise the taxes on anyone who makes more than 250k a year and lower them on those who make less than 30k. OH YES the Envisionists have great plans for the world, if only we had support... or people. I would also open our borders and make it easy to become a citizen. Maybe all those Mexicans having the ability to make minimum wage, pay for them or their children to go through college, getting better jobs, creating advancements, buying houses, and paying taxes, will I don't know greatly improve the economy.
     
  9. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe you ought to check whether we're already doing something before you present it as some kind of new idea?

    I mean, I know you like to go around implying that your audience are idiots, but when you don't bother to keep track of even the most elementary, big-picture aspects of the subject you're talking about, you're the one who comes off looking like an idiot.

    Of course you also come off as an insufferably condescending douchebag either way, but apparently that part is intentional.
     
  10. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Oh, poor little quadraphonics. Are we feeling a bit narky today, are we, bubby?
     
  11. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    A pension isn't something that is granted by the largess of the government, it is paid for by the employee's labor. You can take your anti-union propaganda and stick it where the...
     
  12. keith1 Guest

    The REAL federal deficit is the corporate profit levels. I can eat dirt for two days because these swine can't live a half a day without their profits. We who last will still be standing. Bring it. Your money is no good here.
     
  13. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    I think your numbers are more than just a bit overstated, like by several orders of magnitude. How about getting the real numbers and using them rather than this made up stuff?
     
  14. keith1 Guest

    Wait for it...
     
  15. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    To the thread topic:

    What does it mean to "literally dwarf" something? Like, the "REAL federal deficit" literally transforms the "official tally" into a member of a mythical race of short, squat human-like creatures who are skilled in mining and combat? Or what?
     
  16. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    Surely you agree if we're running a $5 TRILLION dollar deficit and shoving that cost onto future generations, that this is a serious concern?
     

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