The Proof Debate

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Tiassa, Oct 5, 2001.

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  1. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    http://seattlep-i.nwsource.com/printer/ap.asp?category=1103&slug=Attacks Britain Text

    Well, there's not much to debate at this point. Submitted for review, a link to the text of the 70-point summary of evidence against Osama bin Laden, released Thursday, 10/4, by the British government.

    So now I have something to read through over a cigarette this morning.

    So as the proof builds, throw links into this topic.

    But at this point I have no issue to present for debate, so call it FYI ....

    thanx,
    Tiassa

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  3. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Interesting. Whether his finger was on the 911 trigger or not, he's an asshole and should die. He's ugly, too. Do we need any more reason to hunt him down like a dog?
     
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  5. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    Well Bowser, I think you say it very well, don't you?
    Haha.
    You always make me laugh.
    How you do that, you 'nutcase'?

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    Tiassa, I read it for as long as I fell not asleep, sorry.
    But I will try again.
    I promise.
    Looks nice, what Bin Laden did wrong...
    Well, that will be a very long list.
    No it is about evidence against Bin Laden.
    Oh, all one and the same.
    He is a terrorist.
    So he has to be an asshole!!!

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  7. Chagur .Seeker. Registered Senior Member

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    Proof?

    More like circumstantial evidence that would have no credence in any court of law ... at least in this country.
     
  8. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    That is the part to laugh about.

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    There is no evidence...
    Yet.
    Maybe never...

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    What then?
    Shall America admit that they do not know for sure that it was Bin Laden?
    No, America with Mr. bush up front will not admit they are wrong...
    Never!!!

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  9. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    A couple thoughts ....

    Chagur

    I agree that it looks circumstantial, but it's a mere summary. It will be interesting as the actual evidence itself becomes more public to see how it all fits together. I admit that's the primary reason I noted that I had no issue to present aside from making a place to start compiling what we're told is the proof.

    Of whether or not it will stand ... I'm compelled to note that in this country you can now be convicted of murder without a body. Truly, proof that a murder occurred should be necessary. (I'm referring to a man in Oregon convicted of murdering his wife for insurance money; her body never was located, ergo there is no "proof" that she's actually dead. This, of course, is a complication when the issue is six-thousand people unaccounted for after a jet airliner destroys a building. But it's an interesting note at least, I hope.)

    Banshee

    Don't worry about falling asleep; you'll get all the sleep you need when the actual evidence is made public and we all get to spend hours combing the pdf's to see what we've got. To be honest, I've only given it a cursory glance over a half a cigarette, so I need to read it more closely myself ....

    Bowser

    * [size=medium]He's ugly, too. [/size]Man, do you know how many American political figures should be on the hunt-down-and-punish list? Sure, there's Pat Robertson, but the main body of Americans probably wouldn't give a rip about it if the Pakistanis negotiated the surrender of the man who leads the 700-Club cell.

    thanx,
    Tiassa

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  10. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    <i>"Man, do you know how many American political figures should be on the hunt-down-and-punish list?"</i>

    Well see, if the terrorist hadn't made it personal by taking down innocent civilians...

    Could it be that this is a grand scheme to rid the world of ugly muslim men, those same desperadoes who hide behind shrouds and, because they are too damn scruffy to get a real date, enslave their women ?

    I'm on to something here. Work with me.
     
  11. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    I think I've stumbled onto a peaceful solution. Let our military start droping into Afghanistan cases of Old Spice Deodorant Sticks--long lasting and original scent, of course. It's personal hygene which makes them so nasty.
     
  12. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    Bowser, you are terrible.
    Don't make me laugh all the time...

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    You better be careful with what you say about Moslims, you never know.
    I don't think it is quite safe to talk about them this way.
    You better be careful.

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  13. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, I'm being very bad. I shouldn't generalize. It isn't fair. I just felt a need to lighten up my mood. My apologies to all ugly muslim men and stinky Afghans.
     
  14. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    Well, I guess the Moslims can see it is not quite what you meant.
    Lets stick to that.
    Then it is always ok.
    You did nothing wrong.
    You just said what you thought.
    It is a free country not?
    So be free...
    And tell them what you have to say.

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  15. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Mm-hmm... I'm bored... I wish they would start shooting... If I was young and single, having no responsibilities here, I would be there now. Restless...
     
  16. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    Dear Bowser, did you read another reply from me some where else???
    Then I will forgive you this.
    If not, how can you say so, idiot.
    Really, don't say that, they will shoot.
    Oh, on the tv, there is been shot at an American plane.
    Nice, now you have it....
    Afghanistan has begun shooting.
    Silly people, what is it good for?
    More death and dectruction.
    You stil like it Bowser???
    It is true, look at your tv....
    Afghanistan shot a spy-plane from USA.
    No harm done, there wasn't even a pilot in it.
    Now I wonder.
    Why do they shoot at a plane without a pilot.
    Maybe it was an exercise.
    To look if they could shoot straight.
    Silly people...

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  17. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    They have started shooting...
     
  18. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, they started bombing Afghanistan.
    Are you happy now?
    I hate this, I understand it, but I hate it.
    I was afraid of that.
    Now it escalates soon, I am afraid.
    I am sorry for all the innocent people who are hit and died again for the sake of politicians.
     
  19. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    I'm on the edge of my seat. I will be happy when the people of Afghanistan are free of Taliban rule, when Osama is capture or killed, when we move on to the next target country.
     
  20. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    I know you are. Most Americans are.
    I hope the Taliban are captured and punished for all the wrong things they do....
    I really hope the right people are going to pay now.
    And not always the innocent.
    Talk to you later.

    And they may get Osama Bin Laden, to kill him if you want. He is a dispicable man, or how you call it in english...
     
  21. Patman just one of the lost Registered Senior Member

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    Terrorists are Terrorist

    At this point what was declared, was the war on terrorist and the countries that harbor them.

    So, evidence is really not needed. It really doesn't matter who did it. This is the loop hole America needed to go after Bin Laden.

    A lot of people will die. Unfortunate, yes but sometimes you have to stand by your convictions. This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. What are we going to do if Bin Laden sympathizers in the surrounding countries declare holy war? These is not a war on Islam. But these people live in a sheltered world. Where they are only shown what the government wants them to see. It wouldn't take much to push them over the edge and this whole region could go to war. With us with their own government with each other. If Bush is going to stand by his statements this is going to last a long time.

    Also from what I understood, this is only the beginning. Will Ireland be next, what about the U.S.? Oh Yes. These hate groups are no better then the terrorists over seas, just low key.
     
  22. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    <i>"He is a dispicable man, or how you call it in english..."</i>

    Uhm...<i>an asshole.</i>
     
  23. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Patman,

    We are the abertures of change. That change for those people may prove to be bad; but, then again, it may prove to be good. It's might be that the parts are being placed back in the box and we are now shaking up the pieces.
     

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