Truthfully, I am getting really pissed off with the people on this site. No one takes ideas to heart, they only take them personally and then they have the balls to tell me that I am refusing to take responsibility for my words and my life. People here speak freely before they have truly taken my ideas in and have "felt" the truth of them.

The reason they do this is because secretly they know my words carry alot of truth and they don't want to deal with the truth, only the false reality they have created around themselves. I mean for one, they are too willing to play armchair psychologist to someone like myself that has lived through 7+ years of post adult life (over 21 in our society) full of tough, almost surpassable experiences and challenges, and most of these posters are not even 20 yet.

I am not saying that I expect you to be experts but flinging the poison at me that your daddy taught you to help you skim your way through life is not taking my ideas into serious consideration. It easy to judge from your armchair pulpits hiding behind a machine, but try to think about my ideas before you offer the easy solution that is not going to work anyway, because it is old cliched wisdom and the world is changing daily in case anybody failed to notice.

Hmmm...
I'm genuinely curious as to the "last straw" that provoked this post... Any chance you could summarize & put it up here?

Also, perhaps the "knee-jerk" condemnations you speak of are genuinely the result of a lack of "life experiences". I can't presume to judge, because I certainly don't know everyone's personal history.
Nonetheless, recall that throughout human history, "radical" ideas have faced an uphill battle. If some of what you are saying appears sufficiently "alien" in relation to what people know/have experienced or however you'd like to say it, it seems to me that the onus is on you to "make them see the light".
How, exactly I don't know.

Sorry if this sounds like pontificating...

The Problem of the World is that other people are always a few drinks behind - Humphrey Bogart

killjoy, you were right on the money up to the word history.

Hi Fredx, I'm sorry you have been having a difficult time finding people who take your ideas seriously. What is it exactly that set you off? Anyway perhaps you are the one who is taking off the cuff remarks a little too much to heart, sometimes a poster is just trying to lighten the atmosphere. I think you would agree that conversations of all kind are organic, they frequently meander before getting back on track, there are intellectual scuffles (sometimes its a beat-down!), one subject leads into another, one should not take this all so personally. Many here are young or truly wish to provoke in which case you should just ignore them.

YOu wrote:
"I am not saying that I expect you to be experts but flinging the poison at me that your daddy taught you to help you skim your way through life is not taking my ideas into serious consideration. It easy to judge from your armchair pulpits hiding behind a machine..."

What a lovely side you have shown Fredx! I love it when men become aggressive ;)

Name names dammint...you are the only one i have seen here who has the testicular fortitude to do so.....:D

your purring lucysnow, but i guess thats okay.

seargentlard, why should I name names, the people I am talking about know who they are, naming names is only going to get me kicked off the site. All I can say is if you want names, use your imagination and also you are not one of them, you are generally and almost always (with an exception here and there) quite alright.

quote:I am not saying that I expect you to be experts but flinging the poison at me that your daddy taught you to help you skim your way through life is not taking my ideas into serious consideration. It easy to judge from your armchair pulpits hiding behind a machine, but try to think about my ideas before you offer the easy solution that is not going to work anyway, because it is old cliched wisdom and the world is changing daily in case anybody failed to notice.

Fred x "What makes a wizard of wisdom and knowledge when you cannot answer one philosophical question..so therefore you live in a world of vanity and pride...try humility!!;)

IXL777:
Fred x "What makes a wizard of wisdom and knowledge when you cannot answer one philosophical question..so therefore you live in a world of vanity and pride...try humility!!

Humility is a false virtue designed to satisfy the pathetic egos of the weak. Fredx does not need to be humble.

Originally posted by Xev
IXL777:


Humility is a false virtue designed to satisfy the pathetic egos of the weak. Fredx does not need to be humble.

Humility is the solid foundation of all the virtues........it doesn't exist in your vocabulary..two arrogant people doth ignorance make!

IXL777:
Humility is the solid foundation of all the virtues........

You'd have to substantiate this statement. What is virtue and why is humility a solid foundation for it?

it doesn't exist in your vocabulary..two arrogant people doth ignorance make!

*Laughs*
Your simple mind cannot even compose a proper insult. Now see where herd morality has gotten us!

Hey guys relax!

IXL777: I haven't been on board very long but I don't find either Xev or Fredx arrogant. Fredx has a sense of confidence in his knowledge and Xev is not afraid to rip someone a new asshole, but that does not make them arrogant. We all bring different qualities to the table and that adds intrigue to the forum. The poster to poster arguments are often quite interesting and entertaining but basically we all learn from each other just a little, sometimes a lot.

To Fredx: Babydoll why don't you just answer his question?

quote:You'd have to substantiate this statement. What is virtue and why is humility a solid foundation for it?

you obviously do not have any ,so therefore you have answered your own question....I am sure fred X can stand on his own two feet, unless he falls over the 2 pillars of Pride and Vanity!

IXL777:
Insult is not argument. Please address the question.

What is virtue? Does it have an objective existance? If it does not, and virtue is completely subjective, how can virtue have a universal foundation?

I agree, FredX. When I was last here ~4 months ago, the level of discourse was at least present. Now it's monkeytime.

Originally posted by Xev
IXL777:
Insult is not argument. Please address the question.

What is virtue? Does it have an objective existance? If it does not, and virtue is completely subjective, how can virtue have a universal foundation?

Theparadigm shift of consciousness,Traditionally, metaphysics refers to the branch of philosophy that attempts to understand the fundamental nature of all reality. What is reality? Metaphysics is the branch of philosophy concerned with the nature of ultimate reality and being; the study of the principles behind the principles governing the universe i.e objective existence.
Metaphysics is typically described in the following terms:
· A study of the ultimate nature of things
· A concern with identifying the kinds of objects that actually exist
· The question of how many distinct sorts of things compose the universe
· An inquiry into the ultimate reality
· The nature of mind and substance
· a comprehensive account of the most general features of reality as a whole
· The study of being as such
Questions about the existence and nature of minds, bodies, God, space, time, causality, unity, identity, and the world are all metaphysical issues.
Other related terms are:
· ontology—a study of the nature of being
· cosmology—a study of the origin and nature of the world
· cosmogony—a study of the evolution of the universe
The term metaphysics is believed to have originated in Rome about 70BC with the Greek Peripatetic philosopher Andronicus of Rhodes in his edition of the works of Aristotle.
The treatise originally called First Philosophy, or Theology
.An ontology is an explicit specification of a conceptualisation. The term is borrowed from philosophy, where Ontology is a systematic account of Existence. For all systems, what "exists" is that which can be represented. How do you define this statement?What is virtue? Does it have an objective existance? If it does not, and virtue is completely subjective..how can avirtue be completely subjective?.
.Who or what is God? . SUBJECTIVE INQUIRY, INVESTIGATION
The purpose of this brief study is to offer a logical, practical, pragmatic proof of the existence of God from a purely scientific perspective or a metaphysical perspective. To do this, we are assuming that we exist that there is reality, and that the matter of which we are made is real. If you do not believe that you exist, you have bigger problems than this study will entail and you will have to look elsewhere...but who or what is God?
Metaphysics refers to the branch of philosophy that attempts to understand the fundamental nature of all reality, whether visible or invisible.
Ontologies as a specification mechanism
A body of formally represented knowledge is based on a conceptualization: the objects, concepts, and other entities that are assumed to exist in some area of interest and the relationships that hold among them (Genesereth & Nilsson, 1987
Esotericism:
study of Western esotericism: Western esoteric traditions including alchemy, astrology, Gnosticism, gnosis, magic, mysticism, Rosicrucianism, and secret societies, and their ramifications in art history, history, literature, and politics.
The term metaphysics originally referred to the writings of Aristotle that came after his writings on physics, in the arrangement made by Andronicus of Rhodes about three centuries after Aristotle's death.
Traditionally, metaphysics refers to the branch of philosophy that attempts to understand the fundamental nature of all reality, whether visible or invisible. It seeks a description so basic, so essentially simple, so all-inclusive that it applies to everything, whether divine or human or anything else. It attempts to tell what anything must be like in order to be at all. To call one a metaphysician in this traditional, philosophical sense indicates his or her interest in attempting to discover what underlies everything. Old materialists, who said that there is nothing but matter in motion, and current naturalists, who say that everything is made of lifeless, non-experiencing energy, are just as much to be classified as metaphysicians as are idealists, who maintain that there is nothing but ideas, or mind, or spirit.
Perhaps the best definition of materialism is that of Charles Hartshorne (Insights and Oversights of Great Thinkers, p. 17): "the denial that the most pervasive processes of nature involve any such psychical functions as sensing, feeling, remembering, desiring, or thinking." Idealists assert what materialists here deny. Dualists say that mind and matter are equally real, while neutral monists claim that there is a neutral reality that can appear as either mind or matter. Philosophers generally are content to divide reality into two halves, mind and matter (extended and unextended reality) and do not emphasize such distinctions within the mind half as spirit and soul.
"POPULAR METAPHYSICS"
A commonly employed, secondary, popular, usage of metaphysics includes a wide range of controversial phenomena believed by many people to exist beyond the physical.
Popular metaphysics relates to two traditionally contrasted, if not completely separable, (1) mysticism, referring to experiences of unity with the ultimate, commonly interpreted as the God who is love, and (2) occultism, referring to the extension of knowing (extrasensory perception, including telepathy, clairvoyance, precognition, retrocognition, and mediumship) and doing (psychokinesis) beyond the usually recognized fields of human activity. The academic study of the occult (literally hidden) has been known as psychical research and, more recently, parapsychology. Both NEWAGE emphasize mysticism and its practical, application in daily living, but New Thought discourages involvement in occultism.
"PURE AND APPLIED METAPHYSICS" Cutting across the division of the academic and the popular, there is another way of dividing metaphysics: theoretical and applied. This distinction is like the division between science and technology; one describes; the other applies the description to practical problems, putting knowledge to work. Gathering knowledge (or alleged knowledge, critics of metaphysics would say) in metaphysics traditionally is by rational thought; in a more popular understanding, knowledge gathering may be either mystical or occult; in either case the pure (?) knowledge is to be distinguished from the practical application of it.
The word "Ontology" seems to generate a lot of controversy in discussions about AI. It has a long history in philosophy, in which it refers to the subject of existence. It is also often confused with epistemology, which is about knowledge and knowing.
In the context of knowledge sharing, I use the term ontology to mean a specification of a conceptualization. That is, an ontology is a description (like a formal specification of a program) of the concepts and relationships that can exist for an agent or a community of agents. This definition is consistent with the usage of ontology as set-of-concept-definitions, but more general. And it is certainly a different sense of the word than its use in philosophy.
What is important is what an ontology is for. My colleagues and I have been designing ontologies for the purpose of enabling knowledge sharing and reuse. In that context, an ontology is a specification used for making ontological commitments. The formal definition of ontological commitment is given below. For pragmetic reasons, we choose to write an ontology as a set of definitions of formal vocabulary. Although this isn't the only way to specify a conceptualization, it has some nice properties for knowledge sharing among AI software (e.g., semantics independent of reader and context). Practically, an ontological commitment is an agreement to use a vocabulary (i.e., ask queries and make assertions) in a way that is consistent (but not complete) with respect to the theory specified by an ontology. We build agents that commit to ontologies. We design ontologies so we can share knowledge with and among these agents.
Ontologies as a specification mechanism
A body of formally represented knowledge is based on a conceptualization: the objects, concepts, and other entities that are assumed to exist in some area of interest and the relationships that hold among them (Genesereth & Nilsson, 1987) . A conceptualization is an abstract, simplified view of the world that we wish to represent for some purpose. Every knowledge base, knowledge-based system, or knowledge-level agent is committed to some conceptualization, explicitly or implicitly. An ontology is an explicit specification of a conceptualization. The term is borrowed from philosophy, where an Ontology is a systematic account of Existence. For AI systems, what "exists" is that which can be represented. When the knowledge of a domain is represented in a declarative formalism, the set of objects that can be represented is called the universe of discourse. This set of objects, and the describable relationships among them, are reflected in the representational vocabulary with which a knowledge-based program represents knowledge. Thus, in the context of AI, we can describe the ontology of a program by defining a set of representational terms. In such an ontology, definitions associate the names of entities in the universe of discourse (e.g., classes, relations, functions, or other objects) with human-readable text describing what the names mean, and formal axioms that constrain the interpretation and well-formed use of these terms. Formally, an ontology is the statement of a logical theory. \l "1"
We use common ontologies to describe ontological commitments for a set of agents so that they can communicate about a domain of discourse without necessarily operating on a globally shared theory. We say that an agent commits to an ontology if its observable actions are consistent with the definitions in the ontology. The idea of ontological commitments is based on the Knowledge-Level perspective (Newell, 1982) . The Knowledge Level is a level of description of the knowledge of an agent that is independent of the symbol-level representation used internally by the agent. Knowledge is attributed to agents by observing their actions; an agent "knows" something if it acts as if it had the information and is acting rationally to achieve its goals. The "actions" of agents---including knowledge base servers and knowledge-based systems--- can be seen through a tell and ask functional interface (Levesque, 1984) , where a client interacts with an agent by making logical assertions (tell), and posing queries (ask).
Pragmatically, a common ontology defines the vocabulary with which queries and assertions are exchanged among agents. Ontological commitments are agreements to use the shared vocabulary in a coherent and consistent manner. The agents sharing a vocabulary need not share a knowledge base; each knows things the other does not, and an agent that commits to an ontology is not required to answer all queries that can be formulated in the shared vocabulary.
In short, a commitment to a common ontology is a guarantee of consistency, but not completeness, with respect to queries and assertions using the vocabulary defined in the ontology.Therefore
virtue? Does have an objective existance? humility negates Pride Vanity and Selfishness...now do you get xev!!

My honest, sincere recommendation is to smoke lots of dope, spend time with non-lyrical sound texturing, and to stop taking the world so personally.

I, for one, wasn't annoyed with you until I observed you treating people shit. At the time you were posting possibly-sarcastic topics in support of rap, you were merely amusing.

If you're so full of knowledge, you ought to try offering it instead of jerking people around and making them ask for the fruits of your oh-so-sacred wisdom.

Now, I'm not going to say that I remember this phase in myself; I'm quite sure it looked different, as I never for a moment kidded myself into believing a couple of things I've observed you to say, so I have no direct translation.

But I do remember taking the world so personally that I was one of the individualists I was complaining about. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if some of our longer-established posters remember the tail-end cycle of that personal evolution.

I repeat my scathing criticism from another topic: I keep forgetting how many of our posters don't actually want a discussion, but would rather sit around and pretend they're still twelve years old insulting their friends while everyone tries to hide the boners they get from the ten-year-old nudie mag hawked from someone's dad.

When you disagree with someone, FredX, a little more than a one-liner is called for.

That's why I didn't address you directly on one occasion: because the best your post had merited was a simple, "F--k off," and why would I waste the time just to say that?

Come on over, smoke a couple. I'll load ....

:m:,
Tiassa :cool:

I'll not sort through that muck in order to find a pearl of whatever price.

In short, a commitment to a common ontology is a guarantee of consistency, but not completeness, with respect to queries and assertions using the vocabulary defined in the ontology.Therefore
virtue?

This is a non-sequiter.

Does have an objective existance? humility negates Pride Vanity and Selfishness...now do you get xev!!

Why are pride, vanity and selfishness bad things?

Originally posted by Xev
I'll not sort through that muck in order to find a pearl of whatever price.



This is a non-sequiter.



Why are pride, vanity and selfishness bad things?

Xev...you are deaf, blind ,and ignorant..........when you say things like that this is not a kindergarten.......the only non-sequiter is not finding the pearl of great price , the holy -grail of intellect...first you must find the first pillar of humility.....second pillar is lowliness....:cool:

Truthfully, I am getting really pissed off with the people on this site.

you gotta ask yourself one question......... do they give a shit?

No one takes ideas to heart, they only take them personally .....

heart? idea? what outdated notions do you hold my son? until such a time when you are annointed world emperor, why not let people take ideas anyway they choose to?

and then they have the balls to tell me that I am refusing to take responsibility for my words and my life.

wanna see mine hon?

People here speak freely before they have truly taken my ideas in and have "felt" the truth of them.

hark! is that the atf and fbi banging on your door?

The reason they do this is because secretly they know my words carry alot of truth and they don't want to deal with the truth, only the false reality they have created around themselves. I mean for one, they are too willing to play armchair psychologist to someone like myself that has lived through 7+ years of post adult life (over 21 in our society) full of tough, almost surpassable experiences and challenges, and most of these posters are not even 20 yet.

i am really getting to dislike you here you pompous little prick

I am not saying that I expect you to be experts but flinging the poison at me that your daddy taught you to help you skim your way through life is not taking my ideas into serious consideration.

you really dont know shit
ps: screw you too

;)

both fred x and xev have the brains of a rocking horse, at least a rocking horse doesn't suffer from pride and vanity...

quote:People here speak freely before they have truly taken my ideas in and have "felt" the truth of them.

Fred X the only thing i felt is nausea ..and that pissed off feeling when vanity slides down my computer and makes a mess!

Originally posted by spookz
Truthfully, I am getting really pissed off with the people on this site.

you gotta ask yourself one question......... do they give a shit?

No one takes ideas to heart, they only take them personally .....

heart? idea? what outdated notions do you hold my son? until such a time when you are annointed world emperor, why not let people take ideas anyway they choose to?

and then they have the balls to tell me that I am refusing to take responsibility for my words and my life.

wanna see mine hon?

People here speak freely before they have truly taken my ideas in and have "felt" the truth of them.

hark! is that the atf and fbi banging on your door?

The reason they do this is because secretly they know my words carry alot of truth and they don't want to deal with the truth, only the false reality they have created around themselves. I mean for one, they are too willing to play armchair psychologist to someone like myself that has lived through 7+ years of post adult life (over 21 in our society) full of tough, almost surpassable experiences and challenges, and most of these posters are not even 20 yet.

i am really getting to dislike you here you pompous little prick

I am not saying that I expect you to be experts but flinging the poison at me that your daddy taught you to help you skim your way through life is not taking my ideas into serious consideration.

you really dont know shit
ps: screw you too

;)

AMEN

IXILL:
Xev...you are deaf, blind ,and ignorant..........when you say things like that this is not a kindergarten.......the only non-sequiter is not finding the pearl of great price , the holy -grail of intellect...

This is not a rational argument.

first you must find the first pillar of humility.....second pillar is lowliness....

"And the slaves shall serve forever"
--Aleister Crowley

Please respond to me with rational, or at least valid, arguments.

deafness, blindness and ignorance are linked to PRIDE, VANITY ,and SELFISHNESS , so therefore this is a rational argument unless you happen to suffer from them!
goodnight
:cool:

I was going to say something about this topic but these other guys really put u in your place you don't need to be ego bashed anymore

LEAVE MY FREDDY ALONE! Why on earth are some of you shitting bricks over Freddy? If his pomposity, arrogance and vanity is based on thin air why the hell is everyone's boxers in a twist? Didn't someone here (IXLL777) suggest that a 'smart person would not respond to a racist'? Well then why are these same people responding to what they deem empty vanity selfishness and ignorance (did I forget anything..oh yea pride!)? I like Fredx, I don't always agree with him but he is smart and he does have insight and I don't believe he means harm even when he is straining to look down at us from the pedestal he has built for himself. So he thinks he is here to TEACH and INFORM, EDUCATE and ENLIGHTEN the humbled masses of posters so what? I for one would like to teach him how to dial the number of his local escort service and hire three at a time, piss on the side of the street in broad daylight, ingest large amounts of hashish after reading Sexus, Plexus and Nexus, and lay naked in a garden while a small kitten naps on his penis.

You people take this shit way too seriously

Ah, now there's the best post I've seen all day.

The Marquis "qoute of the day"

Ah, now there's the best post I've seen all day.


I will very much agree......thank you all.:D

Could I bum a hit or three of that Hashish?

Also... allowing anything with claws to approach the old Johnson is clearly contraindicated in the operator's manual...

IXL777

sounds like a bearded louse from Jerusalem, and I imagine him shouting out "pillars of humilty and lowliness" like he's eating it.
There's something very San Hedrinish about you, IXL777.

What is it with you people?

What is it with this idea that wallowing with lepers is the key to the world? What good is there in curling up with your back to the world in humility?

Waste your life on lepers, and what you bag is a slap and a bad rash. Waste it curled up with your back to the world and all you do there the mean while is whiff your own privates. No progress in either.

Not to mention the callous disappointment, frustration, futility, anger, disillusionment, and resentment that goes with it because its easier to kick a man in fetal position than one with his head held high.

So like ...uh.....screw your two cents on humility and lowliness IXL777. It carries with it the sound of you rattling a small cup with change in it.

Originally posted by gendanken
IXL777


So like ...uh.....screw your two cents on humility and lowliness IXL777. It carries with it the sound of you rattling a small cup with change in it.

They say ignorance is bliss!:rolleyes:

Say's IXL777
They say ignorance is bliss!

Well....yes, you're right they and those like you do say it, loudest in a small place known as 'convenicence'.

That the Judeo-Christian local hangout, yes?

Originally posted by fredx
The reason they do this is because secretly they know my words carry alot of truth and they don't want to deal with the truth

lol...
god i wish i had the ability to lock threads--or at least pre-screen them.

Originally posted by Lucysnow
LEAVE MY FREDDY ALONE! Why on earth are some of you shitting bricks over Freddy? If his pomposity, arrogance and vanity is based on thin air why the hell is everyone's boxers in a twist? Didn't someone here (IXLL777) suggest that a 'smart person would not respond to a racist'? Well then why are these same people responding to what they deem empty vanity selfishness and ignorance (did I forget anything..oh yea pride!)? I like Fredx, I don't always agree with him but he is smart and he does have insight and I don't believe he means harm even when he is straining to look down at us from the pedestal he has built for himself. So he thinks he is here to TEACH and INFORM, EDUCATE and ENLIGHTEN the humbled masses of posters so what? I for one would like to teach him how to dial the number of his local escort service and hire three at a time, piss on the side of the street in broad daylight, ingest large amounts of hashish after reading Sexus, Plexus and Nexus, and lay naked in a garden while a small kitten naps on his penis.

You people take this shit way too seriously


I repeat my scathing criticism is based on the notion of vanity.....anyone who sets himself as a Guru has to intellectually defend it...this is a discussion forum for mature people, SO THEREFORE IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH SOMETHING YOU SHOULD SAY IT.

Tiassa quote: If you're so full of knowledge, you ought to try offering it instead of jerking people around and making them ask for the fruits of your oh-so-sacred wisdom.

IXL777:
You're an idiot. Do the human race a favor and kill yourself.

Says Xev:

IXL777:
You're an idiot. Do the human race a favor and kill yourself.

Yes, he is. But I think his divine Daddy Killjoy frowns on suicide.

Originally posted by Xev
IXL777:
You're an idiot. Do the human race a favor and kill yourself.
One is not an idiot if one has gained a PhD.......ITS ONLY PEOPLE OF PRIDE WHO ARE IDIOTS.....
and after me putting you as one of the 7 best on this forum....
YOU STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND DO YOU....

Originally posted by gendanken
Says Xev:


Yes, he is. But I think his divine Daddy Killjoy frowns on suicide.

You to can join the group of people with a brain of a Rocking Horse......if you have something of interest , i will be willing to answer it!:)

Originally posted by gendanken
Say's IXL777


Well....yes, you're right they and those like you do say it, loudest in a small place known as 'convenicence'.

That the Judeo-Christian local hangout, yes?

Wrong........the highest point of intellect is the synthesis of light and sound.......all I am hearing is empty toll of anti semitism and anti christianity...I do not belong to either...maybe its your turn to pull the chain!;)

IXL777 who wrote:...this is a discussion forum for mature people, SO THEREFORE IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH SOMETHING YOU SHOULD SAY IT.

Well not everyone on this forum is mature obviously. I am not saying that if someone disagrees they should not say it. I am wondering why some people think it necessary to attack Freddy's ego or narcissistic personality, his way of being. NO one here so far has attacked any of his 'points' only him. (so much for maturity:p ) I mean seriously IXL77 do you think that pointing attention to his vanity, pride and pompsity is going to evoke humility in the man?

To XEV :
You hit it right on the head with this one:

"Humility is a false virtue designed to satisfy the pathetic egos of the weak. Fredx does not need to be humble."


"One is not an idiot if one has gained a PhD"-
There is a difference between intelligence, knowledge, and market value ability.


I happen to like the postings by fredx, I think xev is also a great free will.
Everything that we discuss in these forums should typically relate to our wellbeing and the world tha we live in.
?Happiness is very subjective. As a human being i believe that our "meaning of life" is to simply be happy!
The pursuit of happiness is what we should concentrate on, not simply hacking everyone apart because they have different views.

DEAR FRED:
Please keep posting your wonderful posts, Forget about everyone else.Do it to keep your own mind working.

Xev's responses actually make sense!

"that is not a rational arguement"

Ix777:
Who knows.
"the highest point of intellect is the synthesis of light and sound"

?!!!!??!?!?
:eek:

Is this a science class ?

Kudos to Fredx who has managed to keep himself out of this argument. Welcome back Gandenken.

And chill people....let's all hug and make up hsall we..*opens arms*..come on..who's with me...:D

Sargentlard :D That was too funny! It's true Freddy has managed to place himself in the center of attention. His enemies have been sucked in like moths to a flame. Yes indeedy lets all just hug and go back to the normal state of slowly nibbling the flesh off each other. Enough of this big bite stuff!

Originally posted by sargentlard
Kudos to Fredx who has managed to keep himself out of this argument.




I meant that..at the late point stage of the argument he had wisely kept himself out of it..good for him;)

Hahaha:D He need not defend himself he has his minions and centurions to do it for him:D hahahaha!

http://www.otcentral.com/forum/images/smilies/behead.gif

His minions may come under fire

I actually love all of you guys, although I must say that I cannot bear reading one more post by IXL777 as they are making less and less sense daily. You need a vacation dude.

To Lucysnow and Xev and anyone else that has been sticking up for me, I really appreciate it. I really do mean well Lucy. And Xev, I never thought I would see the day that you would stick up for me and eloquently at that, wow.

To Tiassa, I don't know what I did to drag you into this mess, but I apologize profusely.

Finally, whether anyone wants to stick up for me or not, I don't care, I can stick up for myself, however, I do appreciate what you have done here for me.

To Sargentlard: Jesus who doesn't come under fire on this forum? Hell all one need do is post 'Hi". The hostility is so refreshing:D

Xev and Ixl777: my opinins are undecided. in general my opinnion of xev is rising, not that she cares. ixl777. My opinions are random on him. i've read plenty of his post but im still really far from being able to say i know him.

about FredX and his 'conspirators': not surprizingling im getting afeeling their there was alot of threads in the past that had alot of name calling and upset readers, i guessing these wounds haven't healed all the way by these post but if someone would explain i'd appreciate it.

To fredx: Many people often suffer from a great fault, and thats over analyzing themself and other people's opinions. Fred im probably worse than you at this. my suggestion is to not complain(im not insulting you by this) but to rather try and counter their post with and arguement or explaination. And if you can't think of any comback then just tell them they have a small johnson :D

It was the rap thred, fredx. Of all things going on I wouldn't worry about it in the long run; as to the larger issue, that's yours to decide. But if I accept your apology, well ... it's just that it's not yours to apologize, necessarily. After all, I still need to get bent out of shape about things. But as I do prefer peace despite my frequent ravings, I can only say, "Fair 'nuff." I can certainly lay off.

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Tiassa :cool:

I didn't ask you to lay off or apologize, simply responding is fine and that is what you did.

Fred X, time to bury the hatchet... many posters disagree all the time...I apologise for my rudeness,however my thoughts stay the same:)

IXL77, you said that you were just saying those things to get a reaction out of me, you have suceeded in annoying me thereby getting a reaction out of me and now you have decided that we should bury the hatchet and be buddies after all. How swell of you! Do you insist on such one sided relationships in your "real" life, if so I can do nothing but feel bad for you.

But to the topic, as for setting yourself up as my enemy and then deciding to throw in the towel when you saw that you were outmatched, oh no, you are not getting away so easily. :mad:

Freddy: erm....freddy i would have excepted, sometimes the last word isn't worth it and can can provoke enough to become the 2nd to last word....

did i actually type excepted instead of accepted...okay don't listen to anything i say for now on:bugeye: