View Full Version : The Nonsense Called: Cause and Effect.


genep
03-16-08, 11:54 AM
The greatest minds in Science tell us with absolute certainty that at least 95% of the universe is missing in the Universe's Antimatter, Dark Matter and Black Holes. They have to tell us this because their methods of Science has yet to reveal that much more than 99% of the Universe is Hidden, Really.

Even if only Science's 10% of the Universe is Unhidden to Science ... this means that Science's “Cause and Effect” in this 10% has to be nonsense: because Cause and Effect means that the 90+% of the Universe that is “Hidden” does not effect the <10% that is apparently Unhidden. ... it is like saying that the operating-system of a computer has nothing to do with what appears on the computer-monitor... it is like saying that the part of the iceberg in the water has nothing to do with the 10% of the iceberg above water.... it is like saying that the Hidden (invisible) gravity has nothing to do with planes-crashing and Universes expanding.

These same greatest minds in Science however insist that their Cause and Effect is limited to the <1% of the Universe ... which makes them a little wiser than God and all his prophets who have yet to discover that >99% of the Universe is REALLY missing which leaves <1% for God to play with .. so much less than 1% that it has to be Zero, Nothing, but thoughts, like “god.”

Cause and Effect is especially Nonsense because on all its limitless-levels and fathomless-depths literally Nothing in the Universe is what it appears to be: be it Particle, Photon, Wave or probability-cloud... and even far-more especially ... Physics tells us with the utmost certainty of its absolutely certain Uncertainty Principle: that on all the limitless-levels and fathomless-depths of the Universe the Observer -- and NOT the observation -- determines the Observation, be it Cause or Effect.

-- Wreally Reality

andbna
03-16-08, 01:22 PM
Theres just 1 problem with your article. It rests soundly on the foundations of a strawman fallacy.

They have to tell us this because their methods of Science has yet to reveal that much more than 99% of the Universe is Hidden, Really. Except for the obviouse problem that the galaxies could not have formed their observed state (research galaxy rotaion curves) unless there was a helluva lot more matter than was observed (though, your numbers are bogus.)

Quite obviously, by attributing galaxy formation to dark matter, 'they' also take into account that it is in a causal relationship with the universe.
In other words: Your entire premise is wrong because the existance of Dark matter was determined because of the effect it had to be having, namely: keeping the galaxies together (rotationaly).

EDIT: Here's a nice introductory article for you: http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/science/know_l1/dark_matter.html

-Andrew

Captain Kremmen
08-29-08, 06:48 AM
This dark matter.
Is it something which is all around us, but we can't see it?
Or is it something which is definitely not here or anywhere we know of, but we know must exist somewhere?

(Anyone who is concidering saying "both" don't bother)

Captain Kremmen
09-02-08, 03:53 AM
This dark matter.
Is it something which is all around us, but we can't see it?
Or is it something which is definitely not here or anywhere we know of, but we know must exist somewhere?


No-one knows the answer then.

DeepThought
09-02-08, 04:08 AM
No-one knows the answer then.


Put it in physics.

Scientists don't come to philosophy.

Captain Kremmen
09-02-08, 07:26 AM
Put it in physics.

Scientists don't come to philosophy.



Yes I will, thanks.