Innocence
05-07-06, 05:06 PM
If you are an American, Are you worried?
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View Full Version : The Mexican Intifadah but without the violence Innocence 05-07-06, 05:06 PM If you are an American, Are you worried? madanthonywayne 05-09-06, 01:38 AM Mexicans are not terrorists. They are mainly people looking for better paying jobs. No one is afraid of them. However, I think we should build a wall to gain control of the border for security reasons. But at the same time simply recognize the reality that we are not going to round up and deport all the illegals already here. Build a wall, give all illegals already here say thirty days to register and become legal. After that, arrest and immediately deport anyone found to be here illegally. Mosheh Thezion 05-09-06, 01:41 AM I AM NOT AFRAID.. and i live in LA.... the only good plan is the presidents plan... and a big wall. and everyone not in jail can stay. -MT Neildo 05-09-06, 01:46 PM I AM NOT AFRAID.. and i live in LA.... the only good plan is the presidents plan... and a big wall. and everyone not in jail can stay. Better make sure it's a deep one then cause they've had no problem digging tunnels underneath our current "wall" to gain access to our country. - N Communist Hamster 05-09-06, 02:17 PM Better make sure it's a deep one then cause they've had no problem digging tunnels underneath our current "wall" to gain access to our country. - N Well, I'm sure we have all heard of a wall which was very effective at stopping people from getting across the border. http://www.lm.liverpool.k12.ny.us/cnycss2/workshops/germany/Berlin%20Wall/Berlin%20Wall%20fenced.jpg spidergoat 05-09-06, 03:04 PM What's an intifada without violence? A pajama party? Neildo 05-09-06, 03:22 PM Well, I'm sure we have all heard of a wall which was very effective at stopping people from getting across the border. Yeah, but the Berlin Wall* only had a length of 96 miles. That'd barely prevent anyone from entering the Southern California coast from my city to Los Angeles, and I'm on the LA County border, heh. It'd only need to be, oh, 20x longer as the Mexican border is 1,951 miles long. And this ain't even counting a border with Canada. And yes, it'd also have to be built deep into the ground as there have been numerous dug-out tunnels found that went right under our border allowing people to go each way. Mainly used for drug smugglers, but I wouldn't doubt illegal immigrants or sex-slave traders either as those are profitable markets as well. - N * assuming that's what your picture is of Communist Hamster 05-09-06, 03:57 PM Oh dear, immigrants from Canada? Terrifying. I think the US can handle 20 Berlin walls, after all there's a lot of inactive units that could be used in shifts. Wall duty. IIRC, the Berlin Wall also went underground for a bit as well, but meh, can't the troops use echo sounders? Actually, what do I know. But I still think it's plausible. cato 05-09-06, 04:24 PM I don't think a wall would be difficult. and you would only need pipes in the ground with wires running through them. it would not be hard to put in, but would only last a few decades before it would break down =/ edit: or maybe some kind of rebar that has a certain resonant frequency, and if cut, would be at a difference frequency. then you would only need to go down the line and test the top of the rebar to see if hs been cut. you could make a simple robot do the testing, and have a boarder agent simply watch and make sure it does not get stuck/damaged/shot/stolen. otherwise it would be a shitty job checking all that rebar =]. although, you would not need to worry about deep tunnels in the middle of nowhere, as you would not have a concealed starting/ending point. madanthonywayne 05-10-06, 12:55 AM The wall doesn't have to be impregnible. The goal is not necesarily to truly seal off the border. The goal is to decrease the current flood of illegals to a trickle. Still, a wall combined with UAV's could spot any breaches, whether via tunneling or human cannonballs. cato 05-10-06, 01:09 AM I don't think a UAV is necessary, there is technology that can tell the difference between a human and other animals. we could simply set up cameras on large towers. moreover, you don't really need to tell the difference, simply have someone monitoring the cameras. Innocence 05-11-06, 04:53 PM Communist Hamster , come to think of the image you put up, maybe a fence IS the answer, as it helped Spain from Moroccan illegals and Israel from Palestinian homicide bombers. Neildo 05-11-06, 05:03 PM Communist Hamster , come to think of the image you put up, maybe a fence IS the answer, as it helped Spain from Moroccan illegals and Israel from Palestinian homicide bombers. Do you still not realize the scale? Heck, the U.S./Mexican border is larger than the Berlin Wall, Israel & Palestine, and your Spanish borders combined! It's pretty easy to confine a city or a small country/border in those other examples, but this is muy grande. - N Free Israel 05-15-06, 10:36 PM The world only listens when there is violence, like the Palestinians. James R 05-15-06, 11:44 PM Or like the Israelis. (Let's be fair, shall we?) Neildo 05-16-06, 12:03 AM The world only listens when there is violence, like the Palestinians. - Free Israel Or like the Israelis. (Let's be fair, shall we?) - James R Dost mine eyes deceive me? :eek: - N Buffalo Roam 05-16-06, 02:42 PM A wall across the border difficult, was it difficult for the Iron Curtain countries to build a wall/fence across Europ? have you seen the road system in america, if we decide to do it it will be no problem. Alejandro 05-16-06, 03:04 PM Well, I'm sure we have all heard of a wall which was very effective at stopping people from getting across the border. the difference is that wall was built mostly to keep people in. Buffalo Roam 05-16-06, 08:37 PM I forgot to put that point in thanks for pointing that out, BR Innocence 05-18-06, 10:19 PM M. Bentzion, I agree, as the wall has helped Israel from Palestinain Muslim homicide bombers preventing their entry to Israel, it should be good to prevent many illegals as well. Innocence 05-18-06, 10:20 PM Free Israel, that is why the Kurds don't have a state, because they are not killing innocent civilians like the Palestinians do. James R 05-18-06, 11:32 PM But Israel has a state... oh, I see. Neildo 05-19-06, 04:29 PM Free Israel, that is why the Kurds don't have a state, because they are not killing innocent civilians like the Palestinians do. But Israel has a state... oh, I see. Yeah, Israel has a state, which was given to them for the acts that were commited against them in WWII and crying about it so often. Perhaps if the Kurds get loud enough and mention what Saddam did to them, having chemical weapons used on them like Jews in WWII, they will have their own state. Oh wait, I forgot Iraq is going to go into civil war and so the Kurds will soon have their own state. Damn, I need one of you guys to rough me up so I can complain real loud and become a millionaire and get my own state too! I think I'll pick some tropical island that I don't live on so I can kick all the native islanders out. Isn't that how it's usually done? ;) - N TheVisitor 05-20-06, 07:48 PM Damn, I need one of you guys to rough me up so I can complain real loud and become a millionaire and get my own state too! I think I'll pick some tropical island that I don't live on so I can kick all the native islanders out. Isn't that how it's usually done? ;) - N They used all of them for nuclear tests back in the 50's....... Least you won't need a microwave to cook your food. |