The Massive Appears in the Star Trek Galaxy

A few days after Nemesis Q stops by Starfleet HQ and the capital of every other major power in the galaxy to tell them that in ten years an unknown threat will arrive to attempt to conquer the entire galaxy. So ten years later and right on time ROB throws the flagship of the Irken Empire The Massive into the Star Trek galaxy. The Massive appears above an out of the way world in the Alpha Quadrant that has been turned into a factory planet by ROB. The Irkens have two hours prep time before several hundred Federation ships arrive to investigate the anomaly detected when the Irkens appeared.

Bonus Scenario: Star Trek and Irken forces are made competent and ST is given all of its high end ship and firepower numbers etc.etc.

Edit: No demi-god or above races allowed. Next person to mention those types find their soul devour by the MOOSE!!!!

Who wins?

 

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Douwd. He sees his simulation of a wife die, then he turns all the Irkens to nothing. You can't stop that, you made no rules.

Are you enjoying ignoring how the Xeelee, Culture, and Doctor Who beat Irkens?

 

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Nope, this is just another one of Q's insane tests. Why else do you think he's not stopping the Irkens? Demi-god and above types are out for this debate.

Xeelee-verse: Irkens steal Xeelee tech like the humans did and then beat up the Xeelee or just send them all through a wormhole a room with a MOOSE.
Culture: The Minds are driven insane by GIR and the Orbitals blown up from outside the galaxy via the FTL cannons.
Doctor Who: Irkens crush them through sheer numbers and overwhelming firepower. Or failing that they just replace everyone else with anti-matter rubber piggy's and have GIR start singing the Doom Song.

Now lets just save this for a another thread and stay on topic please.

 

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Ooooh, that will help them, NOT. First, you have to find Xeelee, then you have to penetrate their indestructible materials and kill their indestructible hides. Add in the Photino Birds are the only reason Xeelee had damaged tech given to the humans aren't in this so ;p

PROVE IT. The Minds could destroy GIR before he even knows about their existence. The Orbital's minds know of the attack and just go into Hyperspace. Next they use their superior tech to steal the Irkens FTL speeds and conquer the universe. Game over man, game over!

ROFL! Time Lords and Daleks have way stronger ships. You clearly don't understand shit:
Irken ships = planet busters
Dalek ships = solar system busters
Time Lord ships = Black hole converters

YEAH. IRKENS HAVE SUCH AN ADVANTAGE THEY CAN'T DO EITHER OF THIS. Just like the Time Lords can ERASE the Irkens from time, it's SO fair. Considering they could do it to the Daleks but they also had Transduction barriers. Hell, the transduction barriers are enough proof to show why Irkens lose. And if a few Daleks could create a galaxy buster, imagine what hundreds of billions could.

As I said, you didn't put it in the original post, xD

 

And Irkens CAN'T CONQUER THE MULTIVERSE. Even Culture could solo Irkens.

 

Didn't you already tried Irkens vs Star Trek before or something?

 

A thin layer of their materials was damaged by a super nova you said, I think the Irkens have the firepower to crack that given they make super nova look like firecrackers in large numbers. And I mean large numbers to us, not the Irkens.

The Irkens have GIR infect the Minds with his stupid. They cease to function beyond singing the Doom Song. Really, GIR is just that stupid. Hell, competent GIR is suppose to be nearly on Mind level as I recall from the Irkens vs Culture thread at SB.

And how would they know of the attack when it is coming from another galaxy at such speeds it'll impact within only a couple of seconds of being fired?

No, I prefectly understand that with timetravel and galaxy busters that Who-verse wins. I just have my doubts they win in ship to ship combat given how heavily the Irkens outnumber and have greater DET firepower then them because of the size of Irken ships.

Lets look at the Xeelee Starkiller for a moment: It was stated to have hit a sun/super gas giant with the power of several DS beams, correct? It took four days to destroy the star/super gas giant, correct? The smallest Irken capital ship could blast apart a star given it is hundreds to thousands of times more power.

Ahem, and I assume this are their standard ship to ship weapons being used and they have tanked these attacks?

Black hole converters?

The Irkens have enough ships to just line them up outside a star system and thens just keep firing until its destroyed if they wanted to.

I know that. I just heavily doubt they would win in the end when it comes down to ship to ship combat given the size of the Irken Armada etc.etc.etc.

IIRC Transduction Barriers are used to just keep things out by blocking every possible way in. All that means is they go into hiding and the Irkens have free run of everything else/

They just piss of the Armada and the Irkens just ram 'em to death if they have to. The Irkens just have an insane industry. A single Irken could build a solar system worth of ships in only months if they wanted to.

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No, the Culture could not solo the Irkens, or at least not COMPETENT Irkens easily. The Irkens have shown an insane level of technology. If they really wanted to the Irkens could just line up the Armada beyond the galactic rim and just start picking off star systems.

Now as I said lets just drop this and go over it later in another thread and get back on topic.

 

No, a thin layer of the material protected a man from the supernova, he didn't die, neither did the layer get phased.

This one? I see no GIR reference. So, either you lied, remembered wrong, or are exaggerating. Besides, Minds can see the galaxy and are sentient.

Not a wise question to ask about the Culture.

Did I mention Culture create black holes in enemy ships and can destroy solar systems by braking too hard?

Simple: Irkens LOSE.

Let me state something about the Daleks and Time Lords:
Daleks have solar system busters for sh!ts and giggles, because they can't hurt their own ships, or even the Time Lords. The Time Lords create black holes in the Dalek ships, and Daleks use temporal disrupters to destroy Time Lord ships.

Daleks can destroy solar systems by at least 3 ways:
Supernova
Molecular weapons
Time Destructer

Time Lords invented black holes. Remember, size matter not.

Irkens have NEVER shown solar system busting, have they? I assume you just assumed they could, when they never have.

Transduction barriers protect both sides on a whim.

If their ships are only planet busters, how can individuals with prep make one?

Funny, because Culture can fight and react in microseconds. The Irkens can't harm them because braking is enough to destroy star systems to them. Did I mention they can snipe you from light years away in Hyperspace? Just do it to the Armada in the galactic rim and WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN! Competent Irkens can't beat Culture at all. xD

 

You also mentioned it was damaged by the super nova. The fact it withstood a super nova is impressive, but we also need to know how far away from the star it was when the super nova happened. The farther away from the star it was when it went super nova the less impressive it becomes.

Wrong one, I created my own a couple months ago or so. I recall someone mention that competent GIR was near Mind level and his brain is made out of random things the Tallest pulled out of their pockets.

Except for the problem the Irkens never have to set foot in the Culture galaxy to target them with the FTL cannons. Another little thing the Irkens have is this telescope-type device that always them to view other worlds live many light years away (assuming the other Invaders planets were in the same galaxy as Zim, otherwise make that viewing other worlds live over inter-galactic ranges) seen being used by Zim in Planet Jackers.

Hell, the Irkens even have inter-galactic range transporters as seen in the last aired eps of Zim when he had human slaves build it for him to send them all to their doom.

I have no idea how the black hole would effect an Irken ship really. And did you mention the braking too hard before, but I recall reading at Spacebattles that it was braking to hard destroyed planets.

Competent Irkens set back several galaxies away and laugh as the Minds wonder why everything is being replaced by rubber piggy's.

*Takes notes* So solar system busters are not their high end standard weapons then?

Number two I assume is some sort of DET weapon that tears the star and planets apart, correct? And number three IIRC accelerates time in the system until its destroyed. correct?

They have not destroyed solar systems before as far as we know, but unless there is something I am missing and Xeelee Starkillers are pure DET weapons then an Irken ship could easily one shot a star in a second if it took four days for something as powerful as several DS beams to destroy a star.

So if their forced to high behind those they've pretty been beaten.

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Clarify please.

As I have said before a single Irken had the ability to drain the innards of the Earth in a couple of mintes and then planned replace it with snack food via Energy-Matter Converters most likely since there was nowhere she could have hid that amount of snacks. In fact I believe in the eps where Zim is taken back to Foodcourtia we see and Matter-Energy Converter Shipstorage device.

And the Irkens can set back several galaxies away and snip them without ever having to set foot in the Culture galaxy. And also I said beyond the galactic rim.

Trust me, it may not be a cake wake for even competent Irkens, but their sure as hell going to shake up the Culture galaxy if not conquer it through sheer numbers and heavy extra-galactic weapon fire.

 

Not true

I bolded the part that states their durability. Xeelee use this on everything besides the things they use space-time for.

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Found it!

True that. Culture can have entire engagements in microseconds, as well as having superior ships to the Irkens.

It would suck it from the inside out. Actually, demilitarized civilian ships can destroy planets by braking, warships destroy stars by braking. Civilian ships > Massive?

Can't touch them from Hyperspace

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Culture just sneak into the nearest galaxy by making jumps billions of times of c, then come out, again, out, again, out again, and conquer the Irkens and steal their tech. Now the advanced Culture have officially fucked over everyone (but Xeelee).

No.

Actually, it atomizes the entire solar system, raw firepower

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and the third is right, however, it can also cause things to go back in time too. The only drawback is that if you use it once it runs out of power and you need to mine Uranus again. I don't know how much a single ship has, maybe around one at least.

No, the Starkillers can destroy a destroy a star faster if the star is fired on more than once. It was also part of damaged craft so irrelevant.

Technically, both their home planets have these on. The Daleks need it on or the Time Lords would erase them from time.

As easy as one Time Lord can create a grandfather paradox and almost conquer the universe in one year time alone with some friends? He also run sh!tless when the Daleks attacked, says a lot huh?

One quote

that means that Irkens have to fight in their galaxy or lose.

 

Behold the Invasion of Skaro!

 

Now that Daleks supremacy is out of the way, let's see how weak their ancestors in Genesis of the Daleks. These people are going to kill the Irkens.

 

Could you please stop dragging this of topic! I say it before that we can deal with this in the other thread! Do not make me have the defective SIR units take you away to the MOOSE Room at the End of the Universe!

Besides, I found a race that would laugh off anything... the Jjaro. Not much is known about them, but enough to make it so they can take on everyone else and win easily. Will be brought up shortly in the other thread.

Now back on topic or the MOOSE shall devour your soul!

 

I already said the Douwd would DESTROY them. In the span of me blinking, an entire race would die. You have to put the rules on the original post, you didn't do it, so you can't deny it.

 

Wrong, it would go like, Xeelee destroy Doctor Who who massacre the Culture who MUTILATE THEN RAPE the Jjaro.

 

Provided that Zim and Gir are nopt present, the Massive could stand a decent chance.

 

Provided Douwd is there, and Q can't stop him, then Star Trek stands a good chance

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*Shakes head* I wouldn't have mentioned them if the facts I found hadn't been impressive beyond anything else I've seen. A Jjaro Dreadnout was still operating intact during the last planck-instant of the Big Crunch and Durundal had multiple thoughts during that last planck-instant. A Culture Mind might as well be frozen compared to him. Also, I love how you live out the fact that the W'rkncacnter could, oh I don't know, DESTROY THE ENTIRE GODDAMN UNIVERSE IN AN INSTANT WHEN PISSED OFF. And the Jjaro managed to trap them. Sorry, but it goes like this: Jjaro>>>Xeelee>>>Docter Who>>>Culture.

Now back over to the other thread - I mean for the love of god you could have replied there! What the hell is it with you and de-railing topics!!??

 

That one quote PROVES it all. They are NOTHING compared to the 3 I just brought up. Warping planets? OOOOH, Xeelee can warp galaxies, Doctor Who can warp stars and planets, and Culture can do whatever doesn't destroy what they want.

Oooh, Culture can spam Big Bang guns one every 12 seconds, and they can produce hundreds of thousands of these ships in years time. *GASP*, Big Bang > Big Crunch. They can also have entire engagements in microseconds.

Xeelee can travel picoseconds before the Jjaro were invented and ERASE them. THAT IS A WEAPON OF THEIRS.

So being able to have engagements in picoseconds and see things happening across the galaxy is slow?

I love how Xeelee and Photino can destroy it TOO, Time Lords and Daleks have proven to be able to destroy the universe with lower high end weapons, and destroy the multiverse with their ultimate weapons, and Culture fire Big Bangs constantly. Also, you don't understand what omnipotent is, do you? IF they were omnipotent, they could *gasp* destroy the Jjaro in the blink of an eye. That means they aren't omnipotent but "gods", two different meanings.

More like Xeelee >= Doctor Who > Culture >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jjaro.

 

The Federation forms an alliance with the Irkens by giving them Replicator tech, and thus an unlimited supply of the Tallest's favorite foods and beverages, not to mention toys.

Also, the introduction of Transporter Stasis allows the Irkens to no longer require entire planets to be assigned a single task, as now giant mega-transporters can simply hold things in stasis until needed.

The Irkens and the Federation become good friends, and the Borg, Galactic Empire, and even the Xeelee become fearful of what unholy spawn of Satan could come from pairing Trek and Irken tech together.