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View Full Version : The Jewish Road Map
otheadp 03-16-04, 12:35 PM www.manhigut.org
a website about Moshe Feiglin. he thinks of Sharon and Netanyahu as left wingers. his goal is to become PM.
here is his plan to solve the 'palestinian' problem
this is the most pragmatic solution i've seen to date.. therefore i think it will attract many Israelis. Feiglin's movement is gaining momentum already... his followers have the biggest splinter group inside the Likud with growing support.
this guy, within a decade, or even less, can become PM... and if he does, he will implement this:
The Jewish Roadmap (http://www.zionet.co.il/manhigut/en/view_article_manhigut_en.php3?article_id=206)
what do u think?
otheadp 03-16-04, 12:38 PM my personal view is that it's a pretty extreme plan
but drastic times call for drastic measures..
the international community doesn't give a shit about suicide bombings inside Israel... all they care about is their own interests.. and that's fine. that's exactly what Israel should be doing too, instead of appeasing the liberal media.
skywalker 03-16-04, 02:54 PM no one cares about ur views :o
otheadp 03-16-04, 06:29 PM US aid (military and civilian)
There is no need to fear the cancellation of American military and economic assistance. Indeed this should have been initiated by Israel a long time ago, for both economic and military reasons.
First, the amounts are not that large compared to Israel's gross national product (GNP): economic assistance is 1% of GNP while military aid is about 1.5%.
Second, the US does not provide military aid only to Israel. Of every six dollars of military aid reaching the Middle East, only one comes to Israel. The rest goes to Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, and other countries in the region.
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For the sake of its security, Israel should publicly demand the cessation of all military aid to the countries of the Middle East. The US taxpayer will love this. The American arms industries will be less enthusiastic.
We must give up the remaining civil part of the American aid (about 1% of the GNP) and we are capable of doing so. We did not receive it before the Six Day War and we do not need it now
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It is interesting to see how the US aid curve rises with increased holdings of territories by Israel as this indicates that Israel was a greater strategic asset. Until the Six Day War, we received no aid at all. From the Six Day War until the hand-over of the Sinai to the Egyptians, the aid constantly increased. After the withdrawal from Sinai, the aid was reduced in real terms. US aid is a function of American interests and not of Israeli policy or that of any other recipient.
political pressure
We are long accustomed to political pressure taking the form of condemnations in the UN, the recall of ambassadors, etc. This is not pleasant for those engaged in foreign relations, but it is not so terrible. Israel must examine whether it is worthwhile to be a member of and to contribute financially to the various international organizations that consistently work against her interests.
As demonstrated in the past, firm Israeli leadership that gives priority to Jewish national interests can withstand this type of pressure. Experience indicates that after the dust settles and the inevitable condemnations have been made, the West will again thank us for defeating the Arabs. (The destruction of the Iraqi nuclear reactor is an outstanding example of this.) The Middle Eastern conflict has exceeded the desired proportions for Western countries to intervene, and it currently threatens both them and the regimes in Arab countries. It is therefore likely that a strong Israel which will have a moderating influence on Arab nationalism, and in the long term, it will be receive quiet cooperation and considerable admiration.
i hope the quotes are not too large.
the rest of the document is pretty interesting too.
skywalker don't spam the topic. mods... you wanna erease his post maybe?
Eluminate 03-18-04, 03:53 PM i personally think the palestinians should be transplanted to the desert to farm sand after 20 years those who survive can immigrate to other countries.
If you want a quick glimpse of religious fanatacism...visit the site.
From their policies page:
A law shall be passed for the restoration of lands -- the main essence of which will be that all land that is conquered, acquired or held by Jews within the Biblical boundaries of the Land of Israel shall immediately become an indivisible part of the State of Israel. Developed lands will be allocated, free of charge, to any Jew who is interested in building. Loans and mortgages will be given to those who build. Transportation will be improved to every location in the Land of Israel.
7. Jewish Labor for an Effective, Creative and Moral Economy, and the Forbidding of the Employment of Foreign Workers
There is much more over there if you can stomach it.
This guy and his party breathes new life into yet another variation of religiously, pure blood people and fanatical Nazism.
War seems to really bring some sick people out of their pits.
hypewaders 03-18-04, 07:42 PM Out of respect for pothead, and subsequently at the expense of it, I spent considerable time reading Moshe Feiglin's Road Map (http://www.zionet.co.il/manhigut/en/view_article_manhigut_en.php3?article_id=206).
It's vile. Feiglin, and apparently Otheadp, are here promoting ethnic cleansing. I'm hoping maybe it was just to troll a bit, or linked without reading it carefully.
Please reconcile yourself, pothead! You're not really a Zionazi... are you?
otheadp 03-18-04, 08:07 PM his ideas are very extreme.
his supporters hold only 5% of the Likud membership.
but it is growing.
why? because, as i said before, the world does not give a shit about israelis dying in suicide bombings.
the world doesn't even call it "terrorism"... while the UN refused to endorse a resolution condemning suicide bombings specifically.
the world is tying our hands and ostracizing us.
and in the mean while, the israeli public is getting impatient. if something is not done soon, a reality will exist where Feiglin will be the most popular leader.
one thing for sure - if he is elected, there will be no more 'palestinian problem'...
for now, i'm not supporting him
but if this terrorism campaign continues...
edit:
You're not really a Zionazi... are you?
every time someone like you (idiot) says something like this (idiotic), Feiglin gets just a little more popular
keep talking Adolf
hypewaders 03-18-04, 09:19 PM (whew) that's a relief! A bit prickly, but I'll nevertheless interpret that as your commendable if indignant repudiation of political zionism, Israeli fascism, and ethnic cleansing.
Undecided 03-19-04, 11:57 AM I must really say thank you to oth, because quite simply that was a GOLD MINE!
otheadp 03-19-04, 12:21 PM lol
enjoy
otheadp 03-19-04, 01:02 PM by the way,
your ... repudiation of political zionism, Israeli fascism, and ethnic cleansing
political zionizm has several strands, and some i very much support. your misunderstanding or non-approval does not concern me one bit
as for ethnic cleansing... several arab countries have "cleansed" themselves from Jews
and the 'palestinians' do not just want a country, they want a country free of Jews.
they want to ethnically cleanse the dwellers of Yesha (looks like they're succeeding :()
the doublestandard is very ironic indeed
seems like you are the nazi, mr. hype, for supporting these arab policies
and a doublefaced hypocrite too, for condemning Israel for what only seems to be similar actions (or maybe an intent of the marginal most extreme elements but not deed)
It is only an accident of time and place and nationality that the members of this party weren't German Nazis. They have the same atitude and fanatacism of the classic nazi.
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