The Ice Age: Mainstream Alternative ro the prevailing view.

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Here are some links to a plethora of information sources questioning the truth of the existence of an Ice Age ending ~14000 years ago​

Some links to alternatives to theory of the Ice Age ​

Some links to some books of interest to he 'ice age' controversy​

Like the caveat on the archway to the Chateau D'If: "Abandon hope all ye who enter."​

Geistkiesel

 

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A google search? :bugeye: Aww, come on, you could have done better.

 

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Echoing Avatar, apart from demonstrating you can find and copy urls, what is your point?

 

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Don't you worry, the real Mammoth expert is nearby. (not me, but a buddy)

We,re just about completing the fourth book on Mammoths in a few months time that we wrote and translated in a team, to be available for the Expo 2005 in Nagoya in Japan at the end of this month. A stunning mammoth mummy (head + left forefood) will be on display in the Japanese exhibit, the Yukagir Mammoth, found last year 2003 and intensely investigated. A life size replica is build exactly according the fosil record, right now as we post.

So what do you want to know about mammoths

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and the ice age?

-There is an incredible amount of mammoth myths
- There are no mammoths whatsoever in the scholar explanations of the ice age that forms the basis of global warming.
-Many things around mammoths are explainable as such, others are only understandable outside the narrow path of the scholars. Nothing is metaphyisical though, just plain physics.
- We have 12-13 counts of independent evidence on what caused the extinction of the large mammals, including mammoths, againl all common physics.
- If you accept that evidence, you also have to accept that the ice age was totally different. Mammoths and ice ages don't mix. The mammoths are real so what is the ice age?

 

2005 is going to be mammoth year:

http://www-1.expo2005.or.jp/en/mammoth/mammoth_project_00.html

http://www-1.expo2005.or.jp/en/mammoth/ct.html

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Why is the right tusk much longer than the right tusk? Because the left tusk is still attached to the skull, the right tusk is not. It is loosely positioned in this picture You can see on the colors on the tusk how deep it would have to be inserted. The tusks are about 295 cm long and weight some 47 kg each.

 

In what ways? Why can't a mammoth live during an ice age?
It's ice age in antartica now and penguins live there.

 

Right. How would Mammoths survive in Antartica? The current mean finding places of the Mammoth is northernmost Siberia, Taimyr, Yakutia including October Revoltution island. Average yearly temperatures some -10 degrees. How much colder would this area have been in the Ice age with alleged world mean temperatures some 10-12 degrees colder? How could the mammoth survive, no, prosper in these areas?

 

Don't know. I don't have enough information on that time period.

 

Why don't you tell your theory on that time period?
I know, you want us all to visit your exposition in Japan, but since I live on the other side of the planet from it...
Besides, isn't science about open knowledge?

 

Well that particular area was steppe or prairy. There is abundant evidence that the main vegetation was grass, Normal plain everyday grass. And not a little bit. Because also antelopes, horses, wild cows, woolly rhinos thrived in that area, hunted by lions. The average date of the Yukagir mammoth is 18,500 years BP that is 22,500 Cal years BP, just at the onset of the Last Glacial Maximum, the middle of the ice age when it was supposed to be freezing year round in that area. Does that all sound okay?

 

Never said it did

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So, was it warmer only in Siberia or that applies to Northen America as well?

 

The complete NE Canada was frozen over, covered by what is known the Laurentide ice sheet. Sometimes the ice extented well into the USA, known as the Wisconsin icing period. During the era of the Last Glacial maximum the ice travelled from west to east to cover North West Europe, including Finland and Estonia to be completed in 18,000 BP when the Kara sea started to glaciate. Simultanously the ice retreated in North America causing massive flooding from glacial lakes (Lake Agassiz and Lake Missoula) Hint: Google with those names. So a lot happened but all the time Siberia was not glaciated and at times the summer was much much warmer as today.

 

Any ideas of the climate patterns behind that? I mean, what kept Siberia warm or on the other hand, what made NA and NEurope so cold?

 

What would be your guess when you look at a polar snapshot of the Northern hemisphere of 35,000 years ago?

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Wait a minute, you told that Northen Europe was all covered in ice, here it is all Eurasia without ice. Besides, living in North Eastern Europe myself I see plenty of signs of retreating glacial.

p.s. given the scale, those are some darn big mammoths

 

You are fully correct. But look at the timing. The pic is 35,000 years ago. The first signs of Eurasian glaciation was 28,000 years ago in Ireland, Scotland and Norway. Estonia was not reached before 24,000 years ago.

But many of the signs are much older, older than 130,000 years ago, the Saalian glacial. The idea is that the ice moved around as in moving, not growing and shrinking

 

hmm, shift of the Earth's axis?

 

For instance look at this very recently made snapshop of 20,000 years ago not earlier, not later, the maximum extent of the icing in Eurasia at that particular time. Compare it with 15,000 years earlier A totally different picture.

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But the ice was very busy melting in America at that time

 

That's a can of worms. The idea has been proposed a dozen times and discarted an equal amount of times. But that doesn't make the evidence go away, does it? So what is left to do if all options are impossible?

 

If it is so, then I am sorry for proposing that, but it seemed like a possible cause when looking at your picture together with your commentary.
So, if that speculation was discarted, what are other proposals?