The Forerunners, after 300 years of war with the Flood say "f**k the nosie" and decide to jump the entire Maginot Sphere into a different universe. Unfortunately for all parties involved, they arrive the Star Wars galaxy (in some previously empty sector, if none a thousand lightyears across are available, their above the galactic plane). Due to their other-universe-y-ness they are distinctly lacking in Force presence(think the YV that can still be affect by Force Lighting etc). The Ark and the Halos are left behind, but there is nothing to stop them building more. (Note: Due to 300 years of hopeless war, these are the Forerunners after they have become more willing to "bend" the rules sooner, which means they are no longer as interested in their 'Mantle' but are instead more interested in reasserting themselves(althought no necessarily through war). For timelines: everything.
Will come on, do I have to poke the hornets nest here or something? Forerunner to-do-list. Item #1: Mail Halo device to extra-galactic Vong thing. Item #2: Mail Halo device Darth Vader and Grand Moth Tarkin on the DS1. Item #3: create clone of Emperor to study the Force. Failing that, mail him a Halo device. But then, why would the Forerunner even send HALO's out to do the job? We have to remember the 'key' ship has enough firepower with a fraction of its weapon and power systems online, swat aside entire Covenant fleets...you know, the alien races who already have BDZ firepower capable ships for thousands of years. If that's just the equivilent to a heavily armed transport ship, what's a Forerunner BATTLESHIP? TARKIN: This station is now the ULTIMATE POWER in the Universe. Bridge Bunny: Sir, unidentified contact just came out of hyperspace. I think its one of those Forerunners... TARKIN: You may fire when ready... "COMMENCE PRIMART INITION" *Death Star fires its superlaser...which bounces off Forerunner battleship shields and zips off into deep space.* TARKIN: *Big Eyes and jaw dropped to floor* Oh dear... *Forerunner Battleship- [GRAPHIC VIOLENCE]* HAN: *to Luke* Well, that was short. I guess we don't need these plans now..." Ok, have I upset the hornets nest enough to get this thread started?
The forerunners will send the halo array through slipspace into the sw universe and BOOM,the sw univese is now devoid of life
Use the Force Starkiller, Darth Bane or Lord Caedus could easily teleport themselves to the outer boundaries of whatever galaxy Star Wars takes place in to avoid the blast of the Halo Array. We also don't know how big the Star Wars Galaxy is. Besides, if a force-sensitive died, his/her spirit could return and materialize some kind of way.
Oh yea?Since when could darth bane teleport?They don't even now when the rings arrive from slipspace,they wouldn't know. All sentient species will die in the sw galaxy,the size is 120000 light years.
Darth Bane If he could conjure lightning in the destructive force storm, I'm sure he could ripple space-time enough to do the wormhole thing. Besides the spirit materialization thing will preserve them (you can't argue against that).
The Halo Effect reachs out 3 Radii from the galactic core so they would not be beyond the range of the Halo rings. No, you have to prove he can create a wormhole. If he has shown feats on the scale of other force users like the Emperor and such who I believe you are talking about with the wormholes then you can say he might be able to do it.
Frieza, you dumbass, the Covenant fire two digit gigatons, SW STANDARD turbos fire two digit teratons and a broadside does petatons, AKA, the Keyship is FUCKED. Fanboish sack of shit.
Wow, thanks for the great flaming here and not making any sort of argument at all. And sorry, not Frieza, that was my little brother from hell. Halo Encyolopedia gives a ship based MAC round as going at 40% the speed of light which with a 600 ton round comes out to 1.17 Teratons. Also, BS on the standard TL unless you meant Heavy Turbolasers because we know for a fact that MTL on a trooptransport are 200 GT per shot. Not only that but you are saying Covenant firepower = Forerunner firepower which I found funny given the fact that using a fraction of its true power and hit in run tactics during the Prophet-Elite War was able to obliterate entire fleets with ease. Also, I don't care if you use the ICS or not but I will point out that T canon is doing no good for the ICS lately. Eh, the Irkens conquer both sides anyways.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Wrong, considering those are 30 YEAR OLD TRANSPORT medium turbos. While SW ICS turbos fire two digit teratons, and a broadside fires petatons, this BEYOND what the Keyship has taken. More like Xeelee conquer Daleks who assrape Irkens.
The Keyship is an a transport also, not a true warship. Over at the thread at Spacebattles it was already decided the Forerunner win this battle anyways. Hell, the Forerunners ENGINES do what SW super weapons do. Tell me how well the Empire is going to take having millions of Forerunner Dreadnoughts showing up in a few years and blowing up most of their star systems with ease. Edit: Here we go: http://forums.spacebattles.com/showthread.php?t=153416 Edit2: I do not in any form support the DS superlaser bouncing off Forerunner Dreadnought shields even though it is funny.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! My friend, you have no idiea just how large a scale the Irken Empire works on, do you? *Turns around and floats over to a massive holo screen, turns it on. Billions of the black Irken skulls seen on their ships are shown where conquered galaxies are* Billions of galaxies have fallen in less then two years as of the start of Operation Impending Doom II and the Irkens will have the rest of the universe under their control in only another ten years at most as tens of trillions of ships are created each day. And once the current incompetent Tallest and Zim are out of the way and normal mostly competent Irkens are in control the multi-verse will be ours within a matter of years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *Replaces the brains of the Xeelee and Daleks with rubber piggy's*Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! MULTI-VERSAL CONQUEST IS NEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You know the Forerunners used lightsaber weapons in Halo Legends? Not very powerful. Daleks have hundreds of millions of solar system busting ships and galaxy-multiverse busting weapons. The Irken empire competing with the Xeelee empire? HAHA! The Xeelee BIOENGINEERED themselves to control THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE since the beginning of the universe. They have always controlled everything. They live in a time loop so you can't kill them with time travel and everything they learn in the future resets so they learn it in the past. They are also indestructible and immortal to everything but their construction material which the Irkens DO NOT have. They also hurl galaxies as bullets and fight dark matter creatures. Now the Daleks, they perfected their time travel, crossed universes, waged war with a Type 4 civilization and won, this T4 civilization had out of date civilian ships move planets and destroy star systems, they also could travel between universes. Daleks conquered most of the universe by the end of the war. They also have something that destroys the multiverse Replace Irkens with leaves and replace Daleks and Xeelee with tornadoes. *baffles at Prophets ignorance*
Never speak of Halo Legends again after this please. If you are talking about the small group of groundforces we saw on a mostly Flood infected world we only every saw them used on Flood infection forms so nothing more then a low end can be gained from that. On the other hand the Forerunner ships in orbit appear to have had impressive firepower. And by the end of the war they still have tens of thousands, 11,000 of which they had to defend the Sphere before the Halo Effect hit. And I never claimed the Forerunner could take on the Xeelee or Daleks as you seem to imply. Only a competent Irken Empire after the end of Operation Impending Doom II could do that. And that's why the Photino Birds (correct me if I got the name wrong) were a threat and the humans once they got their hands on Xeelee tech were able to drive them out of the Milky Way. IF they truely had complete control of the universe as you say they should have had no problem at all stoping either of these two threats. Even with Xeelee tech the humans should neve have manage to take control of the Milky Way galaxy. The Photino Birds should have disappeared from the universe when they became a threat. They had a large amount of control over the universe for sure, but they did not have the complete control you seem to imply they have. And known of that kept them from being pushed out of the Milky Way by the humans once they had their hands on Xeelee tech or the Photino Birds from being a threat. Eh, I agree that time travel is where the Irkens appear to fall behind, but then we have to remember that the Tallest only ever gave Zim the lowest end tech possible, so who knows. The Irkens have small spaceships that pretty much Pizza Trucks (Zim's Voot Cruiser) that could haul the planet Earth most likely thousands of light years at least after cutting through a mini-dyson sphere which itself has a low end for the sidepods of 600GT/s. Star system destroying power I have to give to them though. But given the feats of Irken ships they could most likely easily tank a super nova. Unless I am mistaken the Irkens can also travel between universes. And how long did it take the Daleks to conquer most of the universe? The Irkens were on the total war path for two years and easily conquered many billions of galaxies in that time given the feats they have shown. The Irkens send it to the room with a MOOSE!Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Ok, that would allow them to win. Competent Irkens stomp 99% of the multi-verse in a matter of years. Everyone learned that in the Irkens in 40K thread at SB. Competent Irkens are pretty much the most powerful force in the multi-verse because there really no stopping them since they can do almost anything you do better. As made clear before when I talked about the Tallest and Zim, only competent Irkens can really pull of these feats need to take on these powers. *Has GIR start sing the Doom Song to destroy the Daleks and Xeelee* Even they can not hope to match the power of the Doom Song!Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! *Baffles at ricrery's ignorance of how powerful a competent Irken Empire can be*
Oh my God... The Xeelee didn't even CARE about humans, they lost to a race that ate STARS, this would KILL THE UNIVERSE, NO MATTER WHAT THEY DID. Yet humans were reduced to Earth when the Xeelee weren't even trying anymore. The Photino Birds could destroy all of the universe with ease if it weren't for the Xeelee trying to create the Ring. Daleks also survive black holes fired at them, that was the Time Lords main weapon against them, but it wasn't a one shot weapon. Xeelee Nightfighters would tank a supernova without a scratch. The Time Lords halted them by 30,000 years, and they still conquered most of it, if the Time Lords didn't exist, the Daleks would own the universe by the 67th century (AKA when they first waged war across the stars). The hell is this moose? Wrong, the multiverse is made so that there are infinite universes where there are things stronger than Irkens. The Daleks nearly destroyed it, the Time Lords nearly destroyed it, The Xeelee never tried to invade it, and the Irkens look weak, and the Time Lords lost to Daleks even with this No Nickelodeon universe stands ANY chance against time traveling, universe destroying, bioengineering races like these. Edit: Did someone ignore that they are immortal? Also, they can see hundreds of years ahead before it happens, so, they would obviously pop every galaxy and star and planet by hurling GALAXIES at them like they did with the Photino Birds. Also, the Culture ships are easily more powerful, but restricted to their home galaxy, so they would have to massacre the Forerunners instead.
It does not matter. The first war the humans managed to gain Xeelee tech (though correct me if wrong on that) and push them out of the Milky Way. If the Xeelee had total control of the universe as you imply they do, the humans should neve even had become a minor threat at all even with Xeelee tech. Then therefore they did not have total control of the universe as you had implied. They had a nearly prefect mastery of it, that is true. But the way you had said it you where implying that they had complete and total control of the uEdit: Did someone ignore that they are immortal? Also, they can see hundreds of years ahead before it happens, so, they would obviously pop every galaxy and star and planet by hurling GALAXIES at them like they did with the Photino Birds. Also, the Culture ships are easily more powerful, but restricted to their home galaxy, so they would have to massacre the Forerunners instead. niverse which they do not. The only way that the Photino Birds could remain a threat is if the Xeelee had slightly less then total control of the universe. Correct. But that still does no good for the Xeelee since the humans should never have become a threat in the first place given the way you have implied how the Xeelee control the entire universe: Being made from the very fabric of the universe and the way you talked about the Xeelee control it you implied they controled it in a way that should have allowed them to do a Q like snap of fingers to take out threats. Given the way you said it that is how I read it. Just saying it is a black hole means nothing. You can see the SSD vs the whatever its name was mining ship from the 2009 ST movie at SB in which others SBers pointed out that the black hole inconsistent and did not act enough like a real black hole for it to be used to tell how tough the ship was. It was technobabble black hole. And I assume you are talking about Dalek ships and not the Dalek themselves? Correct me if wrong, but I believe that is because the Xeelee and their ships are out of phase with the normal universe and being part of the the very fabric of the universe which makes them so hard to kill without their own technobabble star killing weapons. The Irkens have hundreds of trillions if not trillions of thousands of trillions of ships at least for them to try and conquer the entire universe. So you are saying they would have taken only a thousand years to take over the universe? That is nothing compared to the Irkens given the fact they easily had the industry and FTL speeds to take over the universe in a matter of decades without any other known major powers in the way. “You see at the end of this wormhole lies… A ROOM WITH A MOOSE!!!!” - Invader Zim. It is the MOOSE!!!! of DOOM!!!! So what defense do the Daleks have against things like Deadly Waves of Stupidness™?Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! *Looks over at Smilies* Blast it! How is it I missed the Stick out Tongue one until now? That is what I was using the Big Grin for when I did not see it. What? Prove that the multi-verse is made so there are thing strong then the Irkens. What you are saying with that is that other Sci-fi creators looked the Irkens and went "Damn, going to have to come up with something more powerful." The Irkens to day could just as easily be the most powerful Sci-fi every created if history had even been slightly different. I know there are universes that are more powerful then the mighty Irken Empire as long as they are not COMPETENT IRKENS. The fact remains that 99% of all Sci-fi powers get taken down by a competent Irken Empire. Only 1% stands a chance, and once the other 99% falls and the Irkens have all that tech they would be impossible to stop. Hell, the Soda Cans of IZ-verse Earth can hold the mass of the goddman PLANET MARS with almost no damage at all. Irkens can survive GT-TT as seen in Battle of the Planets of Doom and proven in Hobo 13. In Battle of the Planets of Doom an unarmored Irken Invader survived hitting a planet at such speed it left damage that could be easily seen by the naked eye from high orbit; he also survived the Organic Sweep of the planet. Irkens are insanly hard to kill and have crazy tech. The Daleks nearly destroyed it, the Time Lords nearly destroyed it, The Xeelee never tried to invade it, and the Irkens look weak, and the Time Lords lost to Daleks even with this Irkens have time travel. The Irkens can create and travel between universe to escape the destruction of one universe. Bioengineering means nothing, the Irkens have been clones for thousands of genreations and only a very small trillionth of a precent are every complete idiots like Purple and Zim, and to a far lesser degree Red. You clearly know nothing of Irken feats if you do not believe a COMPETENT Irken Empire would stand a good chance at taking over most the multi-verse. Edit: I NEVER claimed that the FORERUNNER could take on either, I have only claimed that the Irkens could. The Xeelee rape the Forerunner as do the Culture unless the Forerunner were given some OP fiat prep time, and even then it is highly unlikely 1 in a hundred hundred hundred trillion of a chance the Forerunner could win. Also, I thought the throwing galaxies was the Photino Birds doing the galaxy throwing to destroy the ring? The fact remains the Xeelee could be taken down by a COMPETENT Irken Empire post-Operation Impending Doom II when they would have conquered the entire universe. Normal Irkens get curbstomped by the Xeelee and Whoverse forces, but COMPETENT Irkens using their technology COMPETENTLY since they would be COMPETENT would stand a fair chance at victory.
From what I read, Irkens ARE NOTHING compared to mass bullshit you make them out to be, Xeelee could destroy them HUNDREDS OF YEARS before the Irkens discover them, and they are made of a material that the Irkens do not have nor can destroy Gigatons to teratons? ROFL! The Xeelee, Culture, Time Lords, and Daleks would LAUGH at such a display considering Culture destroy star systems by braking real hard next to them. Culture fights take place in microseconds, and they can turn people into gods whenever they want. (sublime) Learn about PHYSICS, the Multiverse is infinite thus everything is real, be it something happened 2 micoseconds before in one universe, and in another, races are laughing at the Irken empire without problem. And why don't you start giving Irken technology instead shouting out your fanboyism? Xeelee could trap in a pocket universe that it locked from the inside and just leave them there for a million years like they did with humans. Easy win! They could also just bring one Xeelee up and watch as their own ships don't harm it. Considering they are made of space-time and all. You stated they don't have perfect time travel, something, all of these aliens do (cept Culture, who still screw them in ship to ship combat).
Look at what a Time Lord WITHOUT preptime can do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnPU6LxCzDQ&feature=related Compare that to a race of well prepared Time Lords and the Irken are FUCKED! Edit: This is what one year of prep time gave this Time Lord without any help ^ | In one year a Time Lord is ready to conquer the universe and form an empire that will last for 100 trillion years, if it takes so long for the Irkens to conquer parts of the universe, then they're fucked against every race here because of their prep skills. Another Edit: This is what Time Lord CIVILIAN ships (and this ones out-of-date) Here is another reference to Time Lords being allowed to become "vengeful gods" here So, Time Lords and Daleks (they use Time Vortex energy) would just turn them all into nothingness before by destroying their future, present, and past forms. Culture can hide in Hyperspace and fire weapons with the power of the Big Bang. While Xeelee just go back microseconds before they existed and destroy their home galaxy, but they could destroy them other way too.
