I'll be posting some interesting stuff here...
I shouldn't reveal some of those things... but I don't think those who should't read it will understand it...

Anyways... if I have time I'll keep posting here...
And don't say it should be in Pseudoscience... it could be in General Philosophy too...

I'll post what I've got so far...

PS: Please no stupid discussions. Suggestions are welcome. ;)

Love,
Nelson

The Law of Absolute Truth

What makes everyone see the same thing in the same way?
For example, why do I see a computer and you see it in the same way?
Well... it has to be something that is true for everyone, a source of everything, and that's what I call Truth.

The Turth must be absolute so that an order can exist in the Universe. An absolute Truth is a nameless one. A Truth that is beyond what we know. A Truth that is limitless as It's the source of everything that exists and that might someday exist. A Truth for everyone.

Love,
Nelson

And don't say it should be in Pseudoscience... it could be in General Philosophy too...

Free Thoughts are exactly that... free thoughts.

Knock yourself out.

but I don't think those who should't read it will understand it...

In your humble opinion, who shouldn't read it? Please provide a list of candidates.

(Q),

In your humble opinion, who shouldn't read it? Please provide a list of candidates.

Unknown...
But there is probably people that shouldn't...
Anyways... this stuff is hard to apply... mainly for them...

Love,
Nelson

Xev...

You know what I meant... :D:D:D:D

Btw... who is this guy...? :bugeye: :confused: :eek:

Love,
Nelson

<i>"The Turth must be absolute so that an order can exist in the Universe."</i>

Maybe a truth is absolute only for this universe, which would make it less than absolute.

Absolutes of present thought: death and taxes. I wonder if those exist elsewhere.

Nelson, how do you know we all see it the same?

How do you know that the way I experience 'green' or 'red' isn't different than the way you experience it?

And, as you've said MANY times before. this Truth is Love, right?

So then what about hte mentally handicapped who don't see the same? Are they not experiencing love?

What about when I'm....err.....some hippy is on haluciongenics? What if they see a giant floating purple monkey instead of a computer screen? Are they not experiencing Love?

Tyler,

How do you know that the way I experience 'green' or 'red' isn't different than the way you experience it?

... Communication...

And, as you've said MANY times before. this Truth is Love, right?

Yes... I'll get to that later...

So then what about hte mentally handicapped who don't see the same? Are they not experiencing love?

Awareness is the key. They are not aware of the Truth. Most people is not. The love you know is not the True Love I'm talking about here, which is the Truth...
Only because radio waves exists, it doesn't mean we are aware of them (even if they influence in our lives, without us noticing it....)

What about when I'm....err.....some hippy is on haluciongenics? What if they see a giant floating purple monkey instead of a computer screen? Are they not experiencing Love?

... If you use drugs, you are perceiving a distorted reality...
Eventhough some drugs make you temporarily aware... but the long-term effects are not pretty...

Awareness must be pursued slowly... is an evolution...
The blind man that born blind and begin to see tomorrow become crazy...

The perception of Truth must be pursued step by step in order not to blow up your brain... :D:D:D

Love,
Nelson

Absolute truth = axiom.

"IggDawg is cool," for example, is an axiom. It is an undebatable truth.

Besides that, an axiom is something for which any disproof would be self-contradictory. "A=A" is an axiom. Saying "a does not equal a" is self contradictory.

The Law of Love

Love is a "Force" that bounds everything together. Love is the Force of the Universe, is the Universe Itself and is the Truth, the source of the Universes...

Love is within and without. Everything is made by Love. Everything is interconnected by Love.

Love is an Ocean.
And we are the fishes. :)

Fishes are not aware that they live in the Ocean.
"We" are not aware that we live in Love. :)

Love,
Nelson

Originally posted by TruthSeeker
Please no stupid discussions.
The Law of Stupid Discussions Posts that express views that do not directly coincide with Nelson's...
Posts that challenge the validity of any "fact" posted by Nelson...
Posts that seek clarification of muddled or circular reasoning from Nelson......are stupid.

Stupid Discussions

Means any personnal attack against me instead of suggestions and comments about my ideas.

Example of Personal Attack:

Law of Stupid Discussions

Posts that express views that do not directly coincide with Nelson's...
Posts that challenge the validity of any "fact" posted by Nelson...
Posts that seek clarification of muddled or circular reasoning from Nelson...
...are stupid.

Love,
Nelson

Love is a "Force" that bounds everything together. Love is the Force of the Universe, is the Universe Itself and is the Truth, the source of the Universes...

Thank you, Yoda.

Love is within and without.

Without what?

Everything is made by Love.

Like guns and bombs?

Everything is interconnected by Love.

Like war, terrorism and murder?

Love is an Ocean.
And we are the fishes.

That would make me an Orca and you baby seal. Yum.

Fishes are not aware that they live in the Ocean.
"We" are not aware that we live in Love.

Your "simple" outlook on life is as naive as the fishes. You are not aware that you live in a 'reality.'

Originally posted by TruthSeeker
Stupid Discussions... Means any personnal attack against mePersonal attack? Not at all.

New members might not be aware of your rather
unorthodox "rules" of debate. I was merely providing
clarification in the form of a message of love that
was apparently too simple for you to understand.

Peace.

(Q),

Without what?

Outside you...

Those things are created by illusion... I'll get to that later...

Your "simple" outlook on life is as naive as the fishes. You are not aware that you live in a 'reality.'

You are inside the Ocean and don't even perceive it... :rolleyes:

goofyfish,

....I was merely providing
clarification in the form of a message of love that
was apparently too simple for you to understand.


Yeah... Uuhhuummm.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :bugeye:
*sights

Love,
Nelson

Originally posted by TruthSeeker
You are inside the Ocean and don't even perceive it...I guess we could take that as a symbolic statement that someone is drowning in ignorance.

Peace.

I guess we could take that as a symbolic statement that someone is drowning in ignorance.

If you know it, why don't you get out of there...?? :confused: :bugeye: :rolleyes:

Good Luck...
Nelson

I LOVE this!!!!!!!

Nelson I love you man!!!

I have never met another teenager who feels they know everything about everything!!!

Furthermore; what does he mean fish aren't aware they live in the ocean? The reason fish don't comprehend the hugeness of the ocean is because they don't have the intelligence and reasoning ability to comprehend it. So let's get it straight;

fish live in an ocean
we live in 'Love'

fish can't comprehend the ocean because they aren't smart enough
Nelson can comprehend our ocean

So what he's REALLY saying is that he's a lot smarter than every other human!!!

What I'm saying is that we are so used to live in Love that we forgot we do.

Since we become aware of it we perceive it again, returning to our true reality...

Love,
Nelson

Then your fish anallogy is useless.

No, Tyler.
It is just to simple for you to understand. http://www.xecu.net/goofyfish/__public/Emoticons/smiley_nooo.gif

Peace.

Tyler,

If the fish analogy doesn't work for you, don't use it...

Love,
Nelson

No Nelson, the problem is that it's a falsehood!!!!!


A fish doesn't know it's in the ocean because it doesn't have the comprehension abilities (like it is actually IMPOSSIBLE for a fish to know it).

You're saying that humans don't know their in Love because they simply dont realize it. And seeing as you, oh wise one, are able to understand everything - it either means you are superhuman (in which case, the anallogy works perfectly) or humans are all capable of grasping the 'ocean of Love' (and the anallogy is useless because there's a very big difference between the two compared situations).

That which is not dead eternal lies and in strange eons even death may die. Look not around you for all is illusion. That which we perceive as eternal is finite, adamantine constructs are flimsy as the moomwraths which do outgrabe the jabberwock, my friend. Beware absolute truth for nothing is relative and more solid as crystals of sands in the wind. That which does not kill me probably hurts me. Learn from your mistakes so you can realise what a fool you are the next time it happens. The fool and his money are a good errand.

Listen to the bird in the tree as it's single, pure song contains more truth and knowledge than the humming of a bee.

Thed runs around the room spraying Lysol and singing Laaa, laaaa, laaa, laaaa very loudly.

EXACTLY!!!
SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING!!!

I love coffe
I love my car

This is the simplified map of how the Creation is made. The Truth is Neutral because it contains all the opposites of the Universe in balance (talk more about that in my next Law...).

From the Emanations to the Manifestations, here's the map.

This Law explains how the Universe works, how God, the Truth, influences the Universe and how we perceive it. It also links Christianism and Taoism together.

The Law is based on the philosophy of Reality Perspective.


The Reality Perspective Philosophy

Philosophy that states that a reality has different values and meanings for different people depending on their momentum perspective, life experience, beliefs and their way to deal with their life.

This Background influence them to see a situation as good or bad depending on their perspective. What someone see as good, other might see as bad.

In the Bible, the background and the dualist illusion is illustrated in the Tree of Conscience (what I call Reality) and the Truth is illustrated in the Tree of Life (what I call... Truth).


The Law of Neutral Cosmic Emanations

God is Truth. Truth is neutral. Then, what makes something good or bad is a difference of perspective. God's emanations are neutral. We perceive them as two opposites. The dualist world is an illusion. What we perceive as reality is just our interpretation. To see the Truth one have to look deep inside oneself, beyond one's experiences. Once you start do that, you became a TruthSeeker.

Devil is illusion. It's our dualist world. God gives us neutral things, but the Devil turn them into an illusion which creates a differentiation between the opposites. In other words, when you know good, you know bad too. And when you know bad, you know good too. One can't exist without each other. They co-exist to form an illusion that we call reality.

What I call Reality is just a perception of the Truth.
Truth is a Collective Reality, a Reality for everyone.

People all over the forums ask me: what do you mean by follow my Heart? What do you mean by believing in my Heart? Simply this:

God is in your Heart.
Devil is in your mind.

In other words:
Truth is in your Essence.
Illusion is in your mind.

Some may ask: What do you call Essence?
I call it the core of your being. You without the judgment of your background.
I could cite scriptures here, but since it's in the Philosophy Forums, I won't (unless someone asks for...).

Here are some diagrams... :
........God......................Tao.............. ..Zen..............Truth
...........|.........................|............ ........|...................|
........Devil...................Dualism..........I llusion...........Reality
......../......\................/......\..................|..................|
good........bad.......white........black....opposi tes......opposites

Ok... I can't resist... I have to post a scripture...

1 Corinthians 13:12:

"12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known."

Here, you see clearly the conception of looking for the Truth but don't see it. God, the Truth, can see us. But we can't see Him.

Love,
Nelson

PS for the thread: Can you please interpret metaphors?? Thanks!! :bugeye:

How long ago did I say 'Reality is in the mind of the beholder' ????

I agree with you that reality is experienced differently by different people, but then you loose me when you stop talking about that.

Whta you basically say is;

Reality is a constant
We perceive reality differently

Therefore God must be real and we must all be bound by Love inside a deeper Truth which is our soul and has nothing to do with chemical make up of our body or experiences.


The problem is, you didn't actually support the third statement. Hell you didnt' support the first one very well either, but I agree with it so won't push that.

The Law of Equilibrium

Equilibrium is the basis of the Universe.

The Truth is Neutral because it contains all the opposites of the Universe in balance.

The Manifestations are NOT neutral because it contains the two opposites in desequilibrium.

The Emanations from the Reality are created when the two opposites are in desequilibrium. When you perceive them in Equilibrium you get the Truth.

Truth has no opposites.
Love has no opposites.

Love,
Nelson

The Law of Harmony

Harmony comes directly with Equilibrium. The difference is that Harmony takes care of the relations between the opposites while the Equilibrium is the main tool of Creation.

When the opposites are in Harmony we get the manifestation of Love. As I said, Love is the Force that bonds everything together. Harmony is the force that makes the opposites be susceptible to changes. Harmony and Equilibrium function through changes. Changes are the main Manifestation of the Physical Universe.

Through Harmony all the opposites relates. Man and Women. Good and Bad. Right and Wrong. Through Harmony, they coexist in the Universe. One needs the other to exist.

Love,
Nelson

Tyler,

Here are my definitions:

Truth: A Reality inherent for everyone.
Reality: Oneself's perspective of the world.

Love,
Nelson

And I understand that; but in no way means there's a god or that Love is the binding force.

You BELIEVE love is the binding force. You don't have any proof of this, it's just something you believe. And as such, you cannot prove it

PS: Please use Philosophy for the discussion...

Tyler,

I get to how I've got this conclusion further...
But you can see it already in "The Law of Harmony" and "The Law of Equilibrium". That's what I've got so far... mostly observing in Nature and using mainly Philosophy to understand it...

Love,
Nelson

On every web forum, BBS, chat room, etc that I have ever been to, there is always this one person. Almost inevitably they have a name very much like "TruthSeeker", sometimes just "seeker", but always something along those lines. Inevitably, this person is some freak who is totally into pseudoscience, possibly the occult, theories about Atlantis and how aliens built the pyramids because we know humans are bad at math and lifting heavy stones. This person ALWAYS uses the argument at some point, usually in every thread they post in, "everyone laughed at (insert name of famous scientist here) too." Are these all the same person? If not, do they have a club? Is it actually just a computer program giving canned responses?

The first time I came to this forum, I saw TruthSeeker's name, and just from the name I thought, "oh, he must be the local 'The face on Mars is real!' guy." I find that reading thread he posts in, especially ones he starts, I can predict with high accuracy his reaction to anything anyone says to him. This goes for not just him, but all others of his type on every board in which I have ever participated.

My only conclusion is that somewhere buried beneath the earth, there is a big computer programmed to do nothing but take part in internet discussions and programmed to believe any silly crap it hears, the more ridiculous the better. TruthSeeker, and all his kind, are actually one entity. He is a robot. :D

Oh, pet peeve: Love is not a universal force. Love is an emotion caused by chemicals coursing through your brain. It exists as a species survival aide, a way of augmenting the desire to reproduce and protect the young. It is quite possible, even likely, that an alien species would not even experience love, at least not in any terms we would understand.

Northwind,

...'The face on Mars is real!'...

Do you believe on that... :D:D

No... I'm not a robot...:D:D:D

Robots have no Heart... ;)

Btw... that's the thread I was looking for to you too see...
Observe the Nature in the context of this thread. See how the Harmony and Equilibrium are everywhere in Nature ni matter where you look (actually desequilibrium, as Equilibrium is the Neutral Truth)...

Use observation and then Philosophy. You'll see that I do my observations not very much differently then ancient Greek Philosophers... ;)

Love,
Nelson

The Law of Immutable Changes

Going deeper...

Changes are the basics of Manifestation. Everything is always changing. That's because through Harmony, the Universe is always "trying" to be in Equilibrium. That's how the changes are made.

Changes are the Heart of the Physical Universe. Without changes the Universe can't sustain itself. Changes are necessary for the Universe to be always stabilized, always in a Dinamical Equilibrium. What is this?

How to explain...
When the opposites have the same "ammount" they are in Universal Equilibrium. They are Neutral, they are the Truth.

When the opposites have different "ammounts", they are always in Dinamical Equilibrium. They are opposites but one need the other to exist.

Example:
Imagine that the Truth contains 3 balls and 3 squares (two opposites with the same ammount).
Then:

Universal Equilibrium:
3 balls and 3 squares

Dinamical Equilibrium:
2 balls and 4 squares...
or 1 ball and 5 squares...
or 4 balls and 2 squares...
or 5 balls and 1 square.

There will always be a balance.
In this sense...

Nothing is created, everything is TRANSFORMED!!!!!!!!
Have you ever heard this... ? :D:D:D

The difference is that the Universe has an infinite number of "balls" and "squares"...
Eventhough the best number to represent the opposites is 72 and the number of Truth is 144... (explain that later... ;))

To understand the "balls" and "squares" in the a real way, just substitue them to two opposites.

Example:
ball=good
square=evil

Universal Equilibrium:
3 good and 3 bad

Dinamical Equilibrium:
2 good and 4 bad... (=evil)
or 1 good and 5 bad... (=evil)
or 4 good and 2 bad... (=good)
or 5 good and 1 bad. (=good)

Universal Genetics... :D:D:D:D:D

Love,
Nelson

The Ultimate Paradox

With me, Nothing exists. I am...

EXISTANCE

You would probably say:
"Without me, nothing exist, I'm EXISTANCE."

But actually, both answers are correct. Why?

Well, think like that:
If Nothing doesn't exist, how can there be an Existance? Without Nothing, then what's really Existance? The concept of Existance can only exist with the concept of Nothing exists too. They are co-creative, each one needs the other to exist.

If you finish with the concept of Nothing, the concept of Existance become meaningless!!
Then, we finish by getting to the paradoxal conclusion that...

NOTHING EXISTS!!! :bugeye: :bugeye:

Existance and Nothing become the same thing when you realize that they are...

the SAME thing in a different PERCEPTION!!!

Love,
Nelson

http://www.xecu.net/goofyfish/__public/exidor2.jpg

Goofyfish: I couldn't have said it better. :)

All hail Exedor!

There is this Existentialist master I know of. I posed these deep truths to him and got the following responses. Heavy man, heavy,

Existentialist Master: Howdy to you, pardner! Yee-haw! Did you like to tell you, but
Existentialist Master: i must desist!
Truthseeker: The Law of Immutable Changes
Existentialist Master: William shakespeare was an ancient greek poet.
Truthseeker: Going deeper...
Existentialist Master: Wake me when it's over, touch my face, tell me every word has
Existentialist Master: been erased.
Truthseeker: Changes are the basics of Manifestation. Everything is always
Truthseeker: changing. That's because through Harmony, the Universe is
Truthseeker: always "trying" to be in Equilibrium. That's how the changes
Truthseeker: are made.
Existentialist Master: Because you are a part of the universe.
Truthseeker: Changes are the Heart of the Physical Universe. Without changes
Truthseeker: the Universe can't sustain itself. Changes are necessary for
Truthseeker: the Universe to be always stabilized, always in a Dinamical
Truthseeker: Equilibrium. What is this?
Existentialist Master: The heart is the principal extensor of the universe.
Truthseeker: How to explain... When the opposites have the same "ammount"
Truthseeker: they are in Universal Equilibrium. They are Neutral, they are
Truthseeker: the Truth.
Existentialist Master: No you are the truth.
Truthseeker: When the opposites have different "ammounts", they are always
Truthseeker: in Dinamical Equilibrium. They are opposites but one need the
Truthseeker: other to exist.
Existentialist Master: The druids were ancient celtic priests. Their group still
Existentialist Master: exists today in secret, despite the existence of charlatan
Existentialist Master: groups claiming to be always stabilized, always in a dinamical
Existentialist Master: equilibrium. They are neutral, they are the fleshy edges of the
Existentialist Master: leg, and is the one that we can't trust?
Truthseeker: Example: Imagine that the Truth contains 3 balls and 3 squares
Truthseeker: (two opposites with the same ammount). Then:
Existentialist Master: How to explain... When the opposites have the same "ammount"
Existentialist Master: they are in universal equilibrium. They are neutral, they are
Existentialist Master: the truth.
Truthseeker: Universal Equilibrium: 3 balls and 3 squares
Existentialist Master: Galileo was an italian artist and scientist. He put forward
Existentialist Master: the theory that the truth contains 3 balls and 3 squares.
Truthseeker: Dinamical Equilibrium: 2 balls and 4 squares... or 1 ball and
Truthseeker: 5 squares... or 4 balls and 2 squares... or 5 balls and 1
Truthseeker: square.
Existentialist Master: Example: imagine that the truth contains 3 balls and 1 square.
Truthseeker: There will always be a balance. In this sense...
Existentialist Master: The sun is a large, ostrich-like flightless bird found in new
Existentialist Master: zealand.
Truthseeker: Nothing is created, everything is TRANSFORMED!!!!!!!! Have you
Truthseeker: ever heard this... ?
Existentialist Master: There is an animal that eats both plant and animal farm.
Truthseeker: The difference is that the Universe has an infinite number of
Truthseeker: "balls" and "squares"... Eventhough the best number to
Truthseeker: represent the opposites is 72 and the number of Truth is 144...
Truthseeker: (explain that later... )
Existentialist Master: When the opposites is 72 and the pioneer of the universe.
Truthseeker: To understand the "balls" and "squares" in the a real way, just
Truthseeker: substitue them to two opposites.
Existentialist Master: A plant is a two wheeled vehicle.
Truthseeker: Example: ball=good square=evil
Existentialist Master: Universal equilibrium: 3 balls and 4 squares... Or 1 ball and
Existentialist Master: 5 squares... Or 1 ball and 5 squares... Or 4 balls and 1
Existentialist Master: square.
Truthseeker: Universal Equilibrium: 3 good and 3 bad
Existentialist Master: Universal equilibrium: 3 balls and 3 squares.
Truthseeker: Dinamical Equilibrium: 2 good and 4 bad... (=evil) or 1 good
Truthseeker: and 5 bad... (=evil) or 4 good and 2 bad... (=good) or 5 good
Truthseeker: and 1 bad. (=good) Universal Genetics...
Existentialist Master: Universal equilibrium: 3 balls and 1 square.

About the Imagination and the Unknown

TruthSeeker: Is there a limit for imagination?
Others: No... and YOU are the EVIDENCE.


...:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Love,
Nelson

HEHEHE!!!... :D:D

That last one was just kidding...
Here is the real one... ;)

About the Imagination and the Unknown

Is there a limit for imagination?
Yes. And that's the unknown.

Why?
Well, because how can you imagine something beyond your knowledge. It's impossibe. For example, how can you imagine a different for of life than we have here? We can even imagine a Giant frog that live in liquid Nitrogen but it's still a frog. We can't imagine something beyond the limits of what we already know.

This means that our imagination is completly subjected to our knowledge. So then, how would this be with God? Well, God is omniscient and this gives Him power to create the most bizarre things that perhaps we will never be able to imagine.

Truth must be limitless for the creation (act of making up something new) to be possible.
Creation is limited by imagination.
Imagination is limited by knowledge.

Love,
Nelson

Nothingness=Infinitness

The Manifestations comes from Nothningness. The Creation is made from the Nothingness. From the Nothingness comes everything. Nothingness is Infinitness as the possibilities for Creation are limitless.

From Nothing comes everything.
Everything comes from Nothing.

Love,
Nelson