To whom it may concern,

My inner electrical thoughts have kept me out of pain and into pleasure all of my life, but now my thoughts are telling me that it is possible to communicate with future out of body people in a way that can be measured.

This is not a spam, a person loosing it, or anything to do with any curtain religion.

This has to do with the fact that people who feel they have out of body experiences, are also having electrical thoughts, so if they are really having an out of body experience, we now have machines like BrainGate that can communicate with electrical thought.

What do you think?

Thank you,
Tim

What do you think?

There is no singular thought.
But here is an honest and impartial response.

It can be suggested that your post suggests you are a complete screwball.

Your post can suggest that no prior knowledge or any research in any scientific area has been done by yourself.

It would also suggest if you were to conduct such research what you have written will change in regards to what you learnt but your overall theory will not be ruled out, since this is obviously something you believe, your conviction will obviously outweigh anything concievable.
(This can be seen as a classic psychiatric problem by some people.)

It suggests that you should look more into sorting your own perception out to be able to research rather than just taking your first thought for granted.
(Especially if you have been smoking pot, notoriously cannabis will fuxor your perception of reality and long term usage will require a longer detox period to get your brain back on track and even then it might require a lot of work.)

It also suggests that if you are kid, you should spend more time working in class at school than staring out the window thinking of the world going by.

This has not been a personal attack, I'm hoping that what you might see as negative thoughts are actually seen as Constructive. They initially might seem as counter productive, unless you yourself can identify where the constructivity starts and the counter production finishes. (ergo, seek medical help if your problems persist)

I'd also suggest you ask Plazma Inferno very nicely to change your username to a pseudonym. It's known that in the world of con merchants they tend to pick already ailing prey to con because they are already weakened by their convictions, using a real name in forums and email addresses that you might feel compelled to post with(or be public with) might open you to such attacks.

Thank you Stryder for you input,

I once had an OBE, just like Winston Churchill reported that he did, and I know for a fact that I was having electrical thoughts while having one.

Call me a screw ball or call me anything you like, but please feel free to me where you have read or seen that it is not possible.

This post is intended to focus on making it a positive possibility, if you would also like me to start a thread called The Department of Negitive possibility, I can do that as well.

Attacking the messenger is only a time bandit to the topic at hand and nothing else, if you want to discuss why you feel it is not possible, please feel free to do that, but at least keep it on some type of topic.

If I remeber right, I posted this under free thought, not drug addiction.

Thank you,
Tim

The reason that thoughts aren't electrical is purely because it's a chemical process neurologically. You only have to study a small amount of biology to realize this.

If you believe you are having telepathic thoughts, there is actually a neurological condition that is sometimes found with schizophrenics where both hemisphere of the brain compete for dominance. Sometimes this can create people that believe they have simple abstract conversations how ever the reality is that it's actually themselves answering those questions.

As for assuming this is to attack a poster, it is not. My reasoning for response is there are people out there that come up with these bizarre theories that usually wind up in pseudoscience and these people aren't just wrong about their theories but suffer from psychiatric disorders. Saying they suffer these things isn't meant as an attack, although I'm sure they will feel it is. It's merely meant to try and make them look into reasoning about their perceptions since they are not normal and they aren't supernatural or superhuman either... they are in all essence nonsense.

If you can be critically minded about your own psychiatry before attempting to suggest something with no shred of proof against years of medical research that contradicts what you claim.

(The reason for mentioning drugs is it's usually the reason a persons mind loses touch with reality, although there is genetic instances or abuse related disorders, drugs are by far the worst.)

Everything in life has a time and place. I find it hard to believe that sientist have realy studied this topic that good, when machines like BrainGate, just started working in 2005.

Thomas Edison believed it was possible to communicate with afterlife, but he would not build anything, if he could not sell it, and that might still be what the problem is.

I was raised to question everything, not to cave in to the fact that science already knows the answer to everything, exspecially since I see no documentation to confirm this.

The behaviors you are talking about generally go with people that are paranoid, and that does not fit me.

I see a connection between Braingate and OBE electrical thoughts, I do not see a connection with anything that you have said so far.

There is two sides to this coin, and at this time, no side is any better than the other.

Thank you for your time,
Tim

OBE's are a load of crap, only spiritualists would want to believe such things.

Just because technology moves on with the use of Radiology (Not electricity) doesn't mean that you float round in some spiritual form. I'll simplify it for you to understand.

The computer you have in front of you is filled with hardware, this is absolute embodiment. For the operating system to run and the programs to run on that, you require that embodiment otherwise it's "machinecode" would not be able to run since it would lose composition.

The same can be applied to human thoughts running within our neural pathways. Yes it it's possible to merge human thoughts with machines and generate a bidirectional communication where either man or machine can process the thought, however in both cases it still implies embodiment.

"ethereal thought" is impossible.

Also Electricity requires molecules to carry a charge, which again suggests that even electricity requires something to "embody" it.

Please feel free to research further, but I've tried to put forwards the points as simply as possible and they are documented.

Good thoughts Stryder,

From what I understand, electricity is a part of every atom, and Einstein saids there is energy in everything.

Scientist also say that energy can not be made, destroyed, it can only change form.

Your electrical thoughts do not perform anything like a computer, and there is plenty of documentation to prove that as well.

Thank you,
Tim

OBEs - are more or less a perceptual phenomenon (as they are reported) - it is usually associated with activity that effects the spatial filtering of the parietal lobe. A neurosurgeon in Sweden found that he could elicit full OBEs in a patient by electrically stimulating her right angular gyrus (found in the parietal lobe). Some sufferers of severe migranes also can have OBEs.

Also, I'm not sure what these "electrical" thoughts are Tim keeps rambling on about. Could we possibly get an operational definition of "electrical thoughts"?

That is a good thought anyway Solidsquid,

An ear is no different than other parts of your body, when it comes to providing a function, I know when I came back into my body, I was near my ear, when I entered back in.

The preasure of entering back in, was a very forced preasure. I have never had an migrain, but I would think it was a lot like that.

I guess there would be no disscussion on this topic, if it was not for all the different things that goes on in air to begin with.

Everything in the atom world has electric, and even though scientist do not know what is inside electric, does not mean I do not have electrical thoughts from the inside. Brain tissue only helps prepare your inner thoughts, for the sead of afterlife and nothing more.

Thank you for reading my thoughts, and maybe one day I can post extra links to show you what I mean.

Thank you,
Tim

----- Original Message -----From: Jeff Wagg, James Randi Educational Foundation
To: Tim Brewer ; Alison Smith
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: Communications


I don't know what "advance thinking and action driven electrical thought out of body afterlife people" is or are.

Are you saying you can make the contact buzzer work without touching it?

Jeff Wagg
JREF

On 5/20/07, Tim Brewer <tbrewer003@woh.rr.com> wrote:Dear Jeff Wagg,
*It is not a buzzer, but a light that comes on,*and that is only because I have only tried it with a light, but I suppose you could set it up to be used with a buzzer as well, and yes, I have had it work before, I just didn't think you were concerned about past events with*my experiments, so I tried not to bring that up.Science base their input in the fact that energy can not be made, destroyed, it can only*change form, so with that being the case. I want to prove that humans after they die, do have the ability to contact us through devises like this, but it can only work if we can educate them first on this*possibility. I once watched**one of your challenges were*a man tried to prove that he could alter a compass with thought alone, I would like to think my challenge is better, just because it is based on the fact that I do not even have to be anywhere near the machine when it works the way I say it will work. I would like the opportunity to have a monitor near by, only as a way to continue to send messages to the afterlife, as instructional information only.**
Please feel free to ask more questions if you would like.*Thank you,Tim*
I'm not accepting anything, I just wanted to be clear on what your claim was. You may apply now, and if you meet the criteria, your claim will be accepted.

Jeff Wagg
JREF
Thank you Jeff Wagg,*I appreciate your help in this matter, and now I will start getting things in order to be in a position to meet the criteria, and the challenge as well.*Thank you,Tim

"Out of body" experiences are simply lucid dreams: I know, I've experimented with them. Tim, I strongly suspect you suffer from a psychiatric disorder and would recommend you see a psychologist or psychiatrist.

This is not an attack, but rather a friendly suggestion.

Dear SoliDus,

I guess that is why we have challenges.

I will not fill out the application until the device meets expectations, just because my wife and I have seen this device work correctly before, I am still going to treat this challenge very seriously, I am a perfectionist when it comes down to making a process work correctly.

So let's see what I have to work with at this time:

I experienced an OBE, I was personally there


There is no other dream in history that I know of, that holds a candle to this dream. We do not see consistently people discussing any other dream. No we just keep ashing out this one over and over.

Just to show you what I will do I will post a new site and ask this question.


I believed my out of body experience dream was real, but what type of dream or dreams have you had.

Real Dreams,

Vivid descriptions, details

If you were always getting the same results, it is time to try new strategies.

We can look at this from different directions, but you are saying the mind is picking about 10% of everybody and saying, sorry about your luck, but, even though you are in a near death situation, we want to show you a rerun of the same dream, then we want you to just your own experiences to that dream, and then what you are done with this dream, we want you to go crazy later in life about it. To the point that you don't care about anything else but this dream.

Now why would your thoughts do that?

We have a energy in our body, that energy is in proportion to the size of a sperm, other sparks fly as well in other sperm, at the time the action happens, and only one energy so small, since sperm it self is so small, to make the connection, to grow. I am saying that this energy is connected to all energy, but that this energy might have the ability to survive after death in the same form as it before it was a sperm.

Think about this energy as always working, because science has shown that energy can not be destroyed, so it was like a blank disk, as clear as the air you see in your room. It started out as a baby energy just following simple machine language of it's DNA. It was aimed and prepared to do one task, it was given the tools it needed to provide that task. It will be launched in a direction, and it even have tools to slow it down so it can survive in a swimming pool of environments, but at the same time, it is being trained along the way to do it as natural as it DNA expects. Have you ever seen a beautiful baby, now take that beautiful creature, to a size of a condensed way of thinking DNA. This energy that developers through out our life does not grow, never gets smaller, it never changes, it maintains in a human, to multiply more DNA, but after the apple begins to rot, it leaves the body and pursues a different educated environment. with all the culture we have provided it.

A don't talk about it, a don't touch attitude, only because through out life, we have tried to over come ignorance, and that was just a result of being scared. Energy can be dorm id, it can sit around all day like somebody sits watching the Indy 500 for example. Then all of a sudden, a car crashes right below you on the track, then all of a sudden the first person on the bleachers leans back from perceived pain, then a wave pursues toward where you are sitting. Nobody is really talking as this is taking place, as they do not in the afterlife, because they can not talk to begin with, because they are energy, but their energy does have a higher power over other blank disk energy, they have the ability to do this with will energy. You see that with people. Dominant energy is no different, than powerful choleric energy in humans. The I'm in charge get out of my way energy. I on the other hand have passive energy, but as life goes by, we all start to chill out when we start to notice that we all basically have the same energy.

People believe when we die, our energy just goes off and breaks up in space, now that would make sense, except for he fact, that are first energy is so small to begin with, how could it break up anymore, now science do believe that energy can change orm, but that is really talking more about how it maintains it self, just like how it can maintain our body. Energy provides a purpose.

From outer space you can not see humans, and how all the different energies are working, and if a meteor hit earth, we would all be like the guy sitting at a race, flying and going with a wave. I have the ability to add to your experience disk of your life, while you maintain your energy, and the culture it was trained in. The good thing about your culture, for the most part it is trying to do everything right, so when we do get at the point of making this connection, the process of adding to the culture will not be that hard.

Through out life, we have always worked hard trying to keep a culture going, and history has shown, some isolated areas of man kind was not so lucky.

We are now at a point in history to recognize that as a ignorant energy, we have not done to bad. Sure we have ignorant wars here and there, over ignorant thoughts. But the electric is on, and for the most part we are getting food and all the things we need to survive, except the 50% who live unhealthy life styles to ignorance as well.

Thomas Edison saw the big picture, he saw sell able inventions that could help man kind and make him money, so he could continue to make things as long as his body could do it. He believed it was possible to communicate with afterlife, no different than I believe we can. He did not do it, because the people at the time was scared of it, the President of the United states was scared of it, but if we were not scared of it, he could unload his thoughts and ability toward that if we would of asked him too.

Other example:

We all had common sense blank disk when Helen Keller walked this Earth, but only one of us, had the energy at the time, to get Helen Keller back to the energy she was capable of, and everybody got additional training for their disk, on how to communicate with that type of energy. Handicap is now respected to that one little tweak in our culture. If you don't believe me, just try parking your car illegal in a hand cap parking place.

Even while we were getting experience with Helen Keller, we were also gaining ground with people like Rosa Parks. Now I am saying, we need to get experience with this topic as well.

I am one who wants to focus on the moment of truth, by looking at it, just like we do everything else on earth. the only problem is, we can't shoot he messenger because his typing, grammar, spelling, or lost off of topic thinking sometimes.

I am stretching the envelope in an area, that is new to me as well.

Paradigm is not a good friend to processes created over hundreds of years.

They are more like snap shots of:
Stop think and learn, but they also have the ability to things back on course.

I stopped, looked, and learned one day that we have a pie mind map of something that don't add up, after you examine it from so many different directions, and after you study it for awhile you begin to notice, it is not much different than the Helen Keller story, except we first have to recognize the possibility, put equipment in place for them to use, based on the fact that it could be possible since energy can not be destroyed, even though we have been handicapped to the possibility.

Einstein and other scientist has proved that atoms and it's energy do not perform the way they should on a small scale, only when a Way is put into play, do they behave correctly.

That must be one of the reasons we put rails at roller coaster parks, keeping all the excited energies in line as they get to experience natural energy experiences on the coaster.

I prob ally agree with you on so many levels of our culture, but this one, but I have to take a Rosa Park break on this one.

I wonder how many people, if given the opportunity at the time to question Rosa Parks, would of told her that she was crazy as well.

It may seam reality in your face hard to believe that past out of body afterlife energy could survive and be among us, but I am a big Murphy's Law kind of thinker that thinks it can, and after seeing all the other mistakes made through history, and the fact that we are quite aware that we don't know everything, and sure the confects of just keeping up with all the demands of our culture alone, that this thought would seem to really be out in right field, but it is not, and if I am right and I believe I am just by going with my experience, studding our culture, examine past experiences from people like Winston Church Hill, doctors who have experienced it as well, not to mention playing out the laws of science that we already know, and etc.

This is just a bunch of scattered thoughts that probally touch on a lot of different fields of our society, and yes there is problally a nice doctor some where who would like nothing more than taking my money and letting me lay on there couch and go on just like I am doing now, but why do that when I can do it on the Internet for free?

Besides the fact, I always have somebody on theInternet that is more than willing to break my thoughts down in sections and tell me what is wrong with this or that, can you get that kind of service from a doctor, I don't think so.

I am not crazy, I just have a different experience than you, but if you can prove my theory is wrong, please fill to anounce it to the world right now, and I will be more than glad to shut up!!!

My family DNA, always warned me never to talk about religion or politics, but they never said not to talk about this.

wifes home got to go!!

Thank you for reading my thoughts,
Tim










Of all the people on the

Yup, definitely a fruitcake.

Seek help... not that you will, because you're delusional, but you should.

Thank you SoliDUS for your openion,

I will consider the option that my device might have a short in it, and if that is the case, I will get another device and try it. I will try this experiment for thirty days, and keep you informed on how it is going good or bad.

I will try and not be delusional with my results.

Thank you,
Tim

Tim,
If the results are just for yourself then you don't really need to post them here, if you intend them for others to study from then you are obviously missing that your posts seem delusional and that since you aren't following a standardised form of peer review it will appear complete nonsense/gibberish.

I'd suggest if you can't cut to the chase with what you are trying to talk about, then don't bother.

Dear Stryder,

To get to the chase as you call it.

I do not care to be the one that can make this a reality, and I don't know that it could be a reality, but I don't think you should dismiss the possibility that it could happen just as well. My goal is to bring up awareness that we are closer now to finding out if this is a possibility or not, since our technoligy is so much better in this area. If nothing else, that we tried the best we could in this area, and that we kept an open mind to the possibility.

What does it hurt to try?

Is this the way kid today treat their parents when they told you that there was a Santa Claus?

Thank you,
Tim

Thank you,
Tim

To whom it may concern,
Just to make sure I am on the right page with the rest of you.

Please answer these two questions for me;

1) why do you feel it is not possible?

2) If it was possible to communicate with future afterlife out of body people, would you want it to happen or not, and why?


Thank you,
Tim

"It can be suggested that your post suggests you are a complete screwball."

Yes it could, but it did the complete opposite to what you suggest, and all you are confirming is that I am right about on this topic, because it can be looked at in the future with more directions that you can concieve at this point.

Regardless to what I say or anybody else, you are going to have to decide for your self, what works best for you.

Am i smarter than a fifth grader?

In some ways, like things that I have gain a lot of experience focusing on.

A Murphies Laws thing in my right brain, that loks like a lot of future scientist are going to learn to be potty trained today, and some of them might learn quickly, probally based on support from their parents, and the more they focus on their kids, they probally are going to se positive results.

As they grow, they will tell them to follow their dreams, and this done everyday, but what if they have a dream and they can show you how it can be done for free.

What club do you have to be in?

Free thinker club to solving problems for free.

with mother and fathers talking positive to them with different type of placebo and brain washing, and the future scientist who do not do it correctly, might get yelled at by people watching them or cleaning up after them, for what ever the reason, but to grow up and not support my idea based on nothing, other than saying I have to prove it, is a waster of time, I would almost have to call that a time bandit, because you have no reason to argue my claim, because you still have nothing and my idea can be done for free.

Life is a gamble everyday, because how everything effects everything, and not knowing if you might be a high risk for any probally on any given day could wear anybody else, and yes it is a waste to chase after an idea if it is going to cost a lot of money, but my idea does not do that, it will be free, so to try my idea, and to try it right is going to be free, then why not try it?

They say on average, that you have 40.000 thoughts a day. Now if that number is exact or not at this time don't mean a thing, because if you had just one a day, that is still amazing, but we have the ability to do more in a day than one., and we waste them away.

We have the ability to change thougth, regardless if we are doing the same thing or not.

After reviewing my topic here and some other places, I have come up with a new openion about this topic so far. Some people believe by making me look bad, some how makes them look good, and the only thing that I can see that they might think they are getting from it is the feeling of having power in front of other people, or just having a hard time adjusting to new information on change. Maybe they are scared of nothing, I don't know, but they sure don't want people to know thqat they are watching this site.

I have no problem with them and there inner thoughts learning more.

I also believe that their is a lot of people who view this topic. because they know their is more to the possibility as well, now that they have thought about it.

How could somebody like me, continue to take remarks like the beginning of this thread, and want to keep trying to make it happen?

People think about things all the time, and internally they keep a mind map to things they really like to store. Like a joke that always work for this or that for example, and they make a not to remember something that is very important, or something that don't mean much of anything as well. Some tell me now, that if they die before me, that they will make a point to keep an eye on how this topic an idea is going, because they have faith in me that I will make it happen. I say to them, help me get it started now, while we both can find out how it is done. Don't count on me doing it too far later, that would be like asking me how many cigarettes I have smoked inmy life. I don't know, and everysecond I am getting older, and sure this topic could go as fast as me, because it could go that way, the topic gets archived and then we are off doing something else, and all is lost, because the one person who really had the foresight to see it, and had the passion to sell it better, was not given the opportunity to do it.

You see, yes I am rambling, but it just does not matter, because it does not take away from the bigger picture.

My idea is out there, it can be explained, and it can be done for free.

I believe we need to take a vote on some different things, and see how it turns out, but the vote must be done in a way, where the voter profile is never shown to the public.

To build confidence in how the voting will be done, the site should set up an example of how the voting will be done, and then they can try a different one, but learn more about the way he voting is done, just in case you are worried someone is watchineg you.

They can already do that now, just by you viewing anything now, if they would like at some point, but if that way of voting is how you want it done, we can do it that way, because i can not inform you if you don't want to know, and the only way you can be sure is to ask your inner thoughts


Sure On different sites I have people like this one who wants to attack my experience, trying to measure it with science standards, but that it like trying to compare you to my big screen TV, by saying regardless what you tell us, we can always change channels or mind maps to something better.

I will admit the time I decided to cross over to the other side of the tug-a rope on this topic, I was not 100% sure at that time, because I knew that I would get some people trying to call me out on anything, other than the topic at hand, and that I did not have the science to make it happen, but after asking for over a year of something that said's I am wrong, I am still with out that information, and please believe me I would of welcomed it, but nothing, just more attacks on me instead.

Now while I was waiting for this information that only had to answer one question, is it possible, I get answers like it is not science job to prove anything, and yes you are right, you do not have to prove anything, but don't come to my topic that you are too lazy too focus on correctly and expect more than what you are getting from me for free.

I can make my idea work for free.

I do not need the help from somebody who waste everybody time.

if you can't help in the kitchen, then you should go do something else, because my idea builds things, and your idea kills things to the point that words like dead, means stop.

Either you are growing or controlling, and I would agree with you if my idea exceeded our budjet for research this year, like 76 billion dollars, but it can be done for free.

Now the time bandits seam really upset or shocked that I can claim this, like I am missing something, but everyday I am adding to what I have already done with out working directly with science, but when a shoe fits as good as my idea, with everything around us now, and the fact the idea has always been aroung us and will continue o be around us, effecting at least ten percent of all future potty train scientist as well.

I understand denial. I once past out in a open place, and after I a woke, I heard that they had called for an ambulance for me, but I fought it tooth and nail, thinking that I did not need one. Now regardless if i neede one or not, or how much I did not want to waste the time and money for this trip to the hospital, it was out of my control, because every time I passed out from that moment forward, they had the control, and all my rights were out with me. I had no will on that day, because I had a very bad hang over from the day before, and instead of explaining the situation, or at least fighting with my wife that morning and just staying in bed, I was lost with the flow, and it did not matter what I had to say from that point on.

Please take the time to re-think your thoughts in this field, before you think you can walk all over me, because you will be wasting your time.

I am right to explore this idea because this is a Homeland security issue, and maybe after they get done putting up their fence, they will see it for what it is.


Please understand me when I say as a friend, you should realy take the time to cross the line with me for a year and take the heat from the other side, because their is not any.

I could spend my life proving just to you that I am right, and by some chance, you alone ask better questions to me than Larry King for example, and I was to answer all your questions politically correct to what you are thinking at any given moment, and regardless where you feel this topic should go, to get a quick laugh in your thoughts, is nothing more than a time bandit, and usualy causes me not to look at anything else you have to say as well. I would even go as far as to say that i would not even waste my time to check for errors in my reply as well, why should I, all you did was assume, trying to make an ass out of you and me both.

Now grant you that this reply is very old, but I picked it for a reason. I want to show you that history will decide who will be right or wrong, not any one reply today.

i believe history will show that I had more help than I thought, before I even knew this thought would be my passion and purpose.


How can a man who manages in fast food make such a claim in a field that few no anything about, and be able over time, with no tools in that field, come up with an idea that sounds good in person?

He breaks very few laws, none in science, but ones like this old saying. "You can't take it with you!"

Science is nothing but a game, just like my idea is nothing but a game, but the difference in my game to other idea's, is the fact that mine can be measured.

Example:

I could show you energy, and tell you that your family tree is living in that energy, and they might be looking at you right now.

I am giving you evidence, but you want more than that.

I tell you that I can show the energy that is in your head, and you tell me you want more than that.

Life is a game, and it all takes it's allotted amount of time, and until you can bring pain or pleasure to any situation, it is a wast of time, but i don't see that with my idea. I see over a hundred thousand people viewing my topic, and they are not complaining, they actually come back and view it from a far, in a place where I will never know who they are.

I wonder if these people only check this topic because thier inner thoughts believe it as well, and they are wanting to see how it is playing out.

I can not say for sure what the motivation for the views on this topic. I would think that a lot of people listen to talk radio, and never call the station, maybe because it is too bland for them and they deal with it, or maybe they do hear things that realy get there goat, and instead taking the chance and talk with them, they just save it for the ballot box. a place where they can just make the common sense choise to the direction we should go with this topic, or not. A place where they can answer the way they feel, regardless what I say on any given day. Look at the big picture of me first.

What am I always trying to do?

Inform by communicating, regardless what I say will not mean anything until it is tried correctly, and that can not happen by cutting it off before it had a chance to be tried.


I understand that I do not go deep into any one thing at this time, but that would be a waste, because how far we have come lately, so let's keep moving.

Other free examples that are some what like my idea as a concept.

The city gave me a fre orange reycycable plastic box to place my plastic in for the city trash, if i do not place my plastic in that trash box, they will not take the rest of my trash as well.

I have 40,000 thoughts a day on average, and to day I am going o spend it on this emotionalobligation and how well i am at seperating stuff now, and to think it reallyis a good idea, and they gave it to me for free.

I could hire somebody to take out my family trash, but I have decided all my life, as long as I am poor, that I will do it for free, saving thousand of dollars in time, for a labor job.

The problem is real, trash is ready everyday, and it has to go some where at some time, and lets make sure we place it some where in the city, where the status qoa will not see the eye soar everyday.

Is it a pain or pleasure cover up. I beleive it is an iggnorance cover up, because if you actually break downthe idea, you get an opportunity, a chance to play a game. A chance to make value in a field, not just an idea.

some migh say that they are just trying to make money from the dead.

This is a question based on iggnorance, because the idea is free.

If a patient communicates back to us after volinteering to try, and we blow it off, because we feel that somebody is exploiting of people grief for a priffit, and once again I have to mention that the idea is free. Now once the idea happens, they will not be the dead, they will be thoughts that make you who you are right now, and all the rest except for sight will be gone, and if afterlife, is like the 600 hundred million people who have out of body experienced through out their life, sure did wast a lot of time. Why don't you go on the news right now and tell people to stop having these out of body experiences, you are messing up pleasent ville for the two hundred wealthest people on Earth who control the media, and you tel them about me, because I have forgot more about how to do everything right, than they will ever know, because kep my mind free, in stock car, they would call it drafting, saving my inner thoughts for things that has never been explored like it has with me. I don't think about a lot of things in my life, if I did, this topic would never get explored correctly. I have to sacerfice a lot of things that I would really like to do, but that is just selfish stuff on my part and nothing else.

I could spend time with close family, but anybody can do that.

I could get involved with so many things in this world, but somebody else can do that!


Take every phone book on this planet, or just about any other piece of information on Earth, and you would be hard press to find anything about an idea that has been tried that comes anywhere close to my idea, and I am offering it for _______!

How many times must I drive this reply until everybody get it?


Got to stop sometime,

Tim

As I said earlier, I can expand on anything I say, because I am able to do that. Maybe my internal thougths like working with bad grammor, is because it allows me to type quicker, with out having to worry about the pain of having to go back and fix it.

i have heard, tha some factories do not use the the nail or screws that hit the floor near an assembly line, because the cost to stop out weighs the price of the nail or screw.

Because of my personality, I have the ability to make somebody some where very rich because of these different reasons alone.

Any company can hire an assistant to make any report of mine look good.

I have a very creative imagination, one that might rival other great minds

I have a fast food back ground, so I am use to fixing problems fast, I am quick at watching for hings to turn into mistakes, I have the ability to se things in my imagination in ways that can save time, by working every problem through a paradigm of situations, because the difference between this or that, is a friction, and I also have the ability to re-sellsomething I am saying today. to something better next week, because I meaure everything, and I do it at a faster speed.

Have you ever made 100 pizza's in one hour and got it to the customer in 30 minutes or less, and enjoyed the rush of doing everything correctly.

I do not like to get screwed through the drive thru anywhere and I don't want it to happen from me either.

If you focus on something and you focus well, you will get better.

Bottom line for today.

We have to many natural laws on this Earth that saids to follow this or that through out our life, and how there is a reason for this and that, and don't give up, and let's se how long they suffer before we give them the time of day, and that all sounds real nice, but I could go on and on about this topic, my idea, and me, if you would like, but history will show that my idea could of been done for free.

Quick review where we are at with my idea:

Possible predictions:
Tim talks about the patients of BrainGate, with out ever actually talking to them one on one. they find out about my idea second hand, and they blw off the idea, because somebody got to them first, and talked bad about the idea, and then they make a negative remark about the possibility, but neve being given the opportunity to talk to me one on one.

This type of situation could set this science back.

Being placed on shows where I have to argue with somebody else who does not believe it is possible, fighting to get any information out, just so they can say they gave it a fair chance, when the case be known, it is in a try mode, where there is no reason to be in that type of setting.

A person of great power has a experience like mine, and decides to buy the machine and have it tried a different way.

At this time, the machune is not for sell. That is a very powerful machine, one that can not be bought. I thought everything could be bought.

You would think if this machine is so important, that we would not of put one in China.

I wonder what they did to get that?

We have the atom bomb in thanks to science fiction, and yes my topic plays into that possibility as well, and science fiction can make my idea work as well, because it is nothing more than right brain activity, and if we focus on my idea and we actually support it, because we all can see a need for a good back up plan, just in case we find our future life, is a lot like the 600 million people who had an out of body experience.

Thoughts and sight in an area that limits our control, but to know that we at least took the effort to give these potential out of body afterlife every opportunity given to man, would not be too much to ask, because it is as good for them as it is good for you, and don't fall for this pick on Tim the messanger hype. these are just par for the course I guess, and regardless how they treat me today, or tomarro really don't matter, because I do try and listen to what they are trying to say at times, and see if I might need to improve in one way or another.

I am only as good with what i have to work with and I try and learn something new about this topic everyday.

Thank you for reading my rambling thoughts,
Tim

Kribble bribble blurble frats, frappin on the ritz.

You can not prove or disprove anything in existence or theory with out knowledge of everything and knowledge is infinite therefore a ever evolving theory is all we have. So to say something is impossible or untrue would conclude you know everything which no one does so keep a open mind, thats all humanity has left… A closed ignorant mind could mean the end…

Could've sworn I posted, in here...oh, well...

and to think I was the only one focused on this issue.

http://www.esalenctr.org/display/sbd07.htm

1) why do you feel it is not possible?

2) If it was possible to communicate with future afterlife out of body people, would you want it to happen or not, and why?


1. Because no one else can verify what you are doing in a SCIENTIFIC manner.

2. I do not want to communicate with any other people that are "out of body" or dead because I had to many people that I killed that would want to harrass me for killing them! :eek: ;)

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

There will be safe guards put in place to prevent negative communication.

Nobody can be tougher on you, but you.

:shrug:

My idea can be measured at the moment of truth. By science and you.

Thank you for reading my thoughts,
Tim

Good thoughts Cosmictraveler,

"1. Because no one else can verify what you are doing in a SCIENTIFIC manner.

2. I do not want to communicate with any other people that are "out of body" or dead because I had to many people that I killed that would want to harass me for killing them!"

What I want to do, can be measured in a scientific Manner.

Afterlife will not be allowed to harass you. That problem would be easy to fix.

How do I go about getting emails when you leave me a reply?

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts, with those of your own.

Sounds like a weird way to start a thread, but it is as true as it can be.
Everything can be measured in one way or another.

It can be measured, just by saying we don't know.

What do we really know?

Very little, but give us credit for making people think we know a lot more.

What do we know about my topic?

Very little, and there is no right or wrong with that, just as long as we are trying our best at it.

Do we learn from our mistakes?

I believe it depends on how focused you are on it.

Perfect example:

I am not focused on my grammar, and it shows in everything I type, but that is because that is not important to me.

Think about this topic anyway you want, but I do believe, if you approach this topic in a positive way, then you stand a lot better chance of getting on the same page with me on this topic quicker.


I am not asking for obligations, but if you are that type of person who is serious about helping, for what ever the reason, then you should be considered, because at this point in history. We are so far behind with this possibility in History, that I am not surprised another country does it first.


We all could believe that our thoughts still works the same after death, as it does as a human.

There is nothing stopping you to think that way but you.

I could just agree with the masses, that has never taken the time to focus on this topic correctly, or from more points of views.

It is true that everything happens for a reason, just like everything can be measured.

I believe that if there is afterlife, then it can be measured.

I am not saying that we have ever had internal afterlife thought before, or that these Braingate patients have this ability, but I am saying that it is quite possible for it to happen in the future, just my thoughts alone.

Regardless how i ramble on or not. you still know a little about what I am saying, and you know that, regardless what you might say.

There is nothing wrong in believing that one day this might be possible.

I believe we could do it as soon as tomorrow.

Too soon for you?

Would you rather we wait for this possibility?

Say a hundred years or more?

Any questions?

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts, with those of your own.

Tim Brewer

tim484848

Tim,
If you think people are reading your thoughts by writing them here then you should possibly consider that it's just you interpreting that. You could probably sit in front of the computer and write in Notepad and still gain the apparent influence that people can read your mind without publicly identifying an estrangement.

I do know that there are various projects that are involved in creating manipulated realities through mind control, often the "victims" conclude their own reasoning to what they think is reality and tend not to question their "divergence" once they've allowed their reality to take hold. I'm hoping in the very near future that such projects are publicly acknowledged considering the misuse has cost a number of lives. There is even speculation that there are a number of Manchurian Candidates use to change Government policy (This is not necessarily the Government you assume it to be) or wage covert war's, obviously I have little solid evidence to support my statement though.

I'd seriously suggest to consider that what ever you believe to be a reality should be treated with kid gloves considering deceit is one of the main methods of concealment.

Other than that please stop spewing your current garble on the forum.

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts, with those of your own.

Please fill free to let me explain everything I am doing, as I am typing.

I have thoughts come to me, just like everybody else.

Are you still with me or not?

I will be more than glad to do this free anytime idea concept with you, until you get it.

I get it, because I am having the experience, but you act as though I am weird, when that is not what the problem is here.

You would rather waste other people time, like you know it all about this topic.

If you want attention, please try and focus on this topic.

If you have something to say about the topic, then please fill free too, but don't waste our time, as you want to waste our time about me.

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts, with those of your own.

tim484848

"Treat all criticism as Constructive, learn from what people complain about and you can turn a negative into a positive."

I live for it!

Everything about my free idea concept theory is free, but you can't get it both ways!


Example:

People love what the Rain man can remember, so they don't have a problem, that he can't dress him self.


I never said, that I would be great at exp laing my thoughts, because most of them, are in my right thoughts, but the last I checked, you have right thoughts as well, and i have no problem dressing my self as well.

What can my free idea concept provide?

The ability to fix every major problem, and all i ask is media attention, so i can verbally explain it, and then please fill free to give me your feed back at that time.

Thomas A. Edison believed it was possible to communicate with the dead.

You know you live inside energy, and you know that energy can not be destroyed.


You know that there is an inside to everything, and you are no different.

How soon could I do this free idea concept, with no help from motivational tapes, because as far as I know, there is no self out tape out there, that is making the claim I am.


Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts, with those of your own.

Tim Brewer