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Raj Ganatra
06-03-04, 08:58 PM
Hi,

I recently came across the following articles from a Paleo-Conservative source, The Occidental Quarterly: http://www.theoccidentalquarterly.com/ I have to admit that I am not that familiar with history so I can't really verify it. So, if any of you can analyze it for me, I'll probably accept your reviews without question:

Understanding Jewish Influence I: Background Traits for Jewish Activism

Kevin MacDonald

Abstract

Beginning in the ancient world, Jewish populations have repeatedly attained a position of power and influence within Western societies. I will discuss Jewish background traits conducive to influence: ethnocentrism, intelligence and wealth, psychological intensity, aggressiveness, with most of the focus on ethnocentrism. I discuss Jewish ethnocentrism in its historical, anthropological, and evolutionary context and in its relation to three critical psychological processes: moral particularism, self-deception, and the powerful Jewish tendency to coalesce into exclusionary, authoritarian groups under conditions of perceived threat.

Jewish populations have always had enormous effects on the societies in which they reside because of several qualities that are central to Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy: First and foremost, Jews are ethnocentric and able to cooperate in highly organized, cohesive, and effective groups. Also important is high intelligence, including the usefulness of intelligence in attaining wealth, prominence in the media, and eminence in the academic world and the legal profession. I will also discuss two other qualities that have received less attention: psychological intensity and aggressiveness.

The four background traits of ethnocentrism, intelligence, psychological intensity, and aggressiveness result in Jews being able to produce formidable, effective groups—groups able to have powerful, transformative effects on the peoples they live among. In the modern world, these traits influence the academic world and the world of mainstream and elite media, thus amplifying Jewish effectiveness compared with traditional societies. However, Jews have repeatedly become an elite and powerful group in societies in which they reside in sufficient numbers. It is remarkable that Jews, usually as a tiny minority, have been central to a long list of historical events. Jews were much on the mind of the Church Fathers in the fourth century during the formative years of Christian dominance in the West. Indeed, I have proposed that the powerful anti-Jewish attitudes and legislation of the fourth-century Church must be understood as a defensive reaction against Jewish economic power and enslavement of non-Jews.1 Jews who had nominally converted to Christianity but maintained their ethnic ties in marriage and commerce were the focus of the 250-year Inquisition in Spain, Portugal, and the Spanish colonies in the New World. Fundamentally, the Inquisition should be seen as a defensive reaction to the economic and political domination of these “New Christians.”2

The complete article is at http://theoccidentalquarterly.com/vol3no2/km-understanding.html

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Understanding Jewish Influence II: Zionism and the Internal Dynamics of Judaism

Kevin MacDonald

The history of Zionism illustrates a dynamic within the Jewish community in which the most radical elements end up pulling the entire community in their direction. Zionism began among the most ethnocentric Eastern European Jews and had explicitly racialist and nationalist overtones. However, Zionism was viewed as dangerous among the wider Jewish community, especially the partially assimilated Jews in Western countries, because it opened Jews up to charges of disloyalty and because the Zionists’ open racialism and ethnocentric nationalism conflicted with the assimilationist strategy then dominant among Western Jews. Zionist activists eventually succeeded in making Zionism a mainstream Jewish movement, due in large part to the sheer force of numbers of the Eastern European vanguard. Over time, the more militant, expansionist Zionists (the Jabotinskyists, the Likud Party, fundamentalists, and West Bank settlers) have won the day and have continued to push for territorial expansion within Israel. This has led to conflicts with Palestinians and a widespread belief among Jews that Israel itself is threatened. The result has been a heightened group consciousness among Jews and ultimately support for Zionist extremism among the entire organized American Jewish community.

In the first part of this series I discussed Jewish ethnocentrism as a central trait influencing the success of Jewish activism.1 In the contemporary world, the most important example of Jewish ethnocentrism and extremism is Zionism. In fact, Zionism is incredibly important. As of this writing, the United States has recently accomplished the destruction of the Iraqi regime, and it is common among influential Jews to advocate war between the United States and the entire Muslim world. In a recent issue of Commentary (an influential journal published by the American Jewish Committee), editor Norman Podhoretz states, “The regimes that richly deserve to be overthrown and replaced are not confined to the three singled-out members of the axis of evil [i.e., Iraq, Iran, and North Korea]. At a minimum, the axis should extend to Syria and Lebanon and Libya, as well as ’friends’ of America like the Saudi royal family and Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak, along with the Palestinian Authority, whether headed by Arafat or one of his henchmen.”2 More than anything else, this is a list of countries that Israel doesn’t like, and, as I discuss in the third part of this series, intensely committed Zionists with close links to Israel occupy prominent positions in the Bush administration, especially in the Department of Defense and on the staff of Vice President Dick Cheney. The long-term consequence of Zionism is that the U.S. is on the verge of attempting to completely transform the Arab/Muslim world to produce governments that accept Israel and whatever fate it decides for the Palestinians, and, quite possibly, to set the stage for further Israeli expansionism.

The complete article is at http://theoccidentalquarterly.com/vol3no3/km-understandII.html

Raj Ganatra

Hastein
06-03-04, 09:10 PM
It sounds dead on accurate to me. Judaism is highly nepotistic and highly ethnocentric and whenever Judaism, or its offspring, Christianity, arrive within a society they inhibit all rebellion through complete suppression of free thought through pity-based valuation: these religion portray themselves as the defenders of morality and the picture of purity, but ultimately do the opposite. Jews have a particularily power because of their long ethnocentric history as well as the recent Holocaust, which has been more or less used by Zionists (not to be confused with real Jews) to silence all opposition to Israel and the questioning of their religion in general. The term 'anti-semitic' has in fact been modified to include criticism of Israel, despite the fact that a Jewish homeland is not in the interest of, and is in fact blasphemy, the true Talmudic Jews.

Raj Ganatra
06-03-04, 09:35 PM
Thank you for the response. So I guess you have studied enough to say the articles I posted have some credibility. Interesting how you separated "Zionist Jews" from "real Jews." I take it that you are saying only some Jews support what is being said in the above articles, while other Jews are just living an honest life, just the like the rest of us. Again, I don't really know enough, but I do appreciate your input.

Interestingly, I've read the literature by Jewish authors themselves giving some credit to the author of the above article, Professor Kevin MacDonald: http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/ One of these Jewish intellectuals is Professor John Hartung:

From http://members.aol.com/toexist/john.html

"John Hartung is the Associate Editor of the Journal of Neurosurgical Anesthesiology and an Associate Professor of Anesthesiology at the State University of New York.

His Ph.D. is in anthropology from Harvard. About half of Dr. Hartung's publications are in social science, with the rest in medicine (Curriculum Vitae).

address: SUNY Brooklyn - box 6, 450 Clarkson Avenue, Brooklyn, NY 11203, USA

phone: 718-270-1880

fax: 718-270-4272

e-mail: hartung@post.harvard.edu

From http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/late/aptsda01.html

A People that Shall Dwell Alone: Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy

A People that Shall Dwell Alone: Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy
Westport, CT: Praeger Publishers, 1994, Kevin MacDonald.
Review by John Hartung, PhD.

Mortimer Ostow just published Myth and Madness: The Psychodynamics of Antisemitism, a recent contribution to the genre of literature that explains anti-Semitism as a mental illness whose epidemiology can be understood through "psychoanalytic interpretation of ... specific antisemitic myths, including pre-Christian early and medieval Christian, 'racial' and post-modern Muslim antisemitism ... the pogrom mentality, including the Nazi phenomenon, antisemitic fundamentalism, and black antisemitism."

In distinction, Kevin MacDonald recently published A People That Shall Dwell Alone: Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy, which is a prelude to Separation and its discontents: Toward an Evolutionary Theory of Anti-Semitism. In these two works, only the first of which can be considered here, MacDonald argues that the worldwide, age-old phenomenon of anti-Semitism is not a disease state vectored by myths, but is instead what should be expected given the nature of human intergroup competition and the competitive attributes of Judaism.

Complete text at http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/late/aptsda01.html

hypewaders
06-04-04, 09:17 AM
Focusing on Jewish tribalism/ethnocentrism/zionism as a unique phenomenon apart from equivalents within other cultural/racial groupings of people is a tricky thing. Such attitudes don't soften from outside confrontation, even if the intervention seems justified.

What is far more productive, is to seek clear agreement about standards. In our present and future, governments who rule and descriminate based on ethnicity (ethnocracies?) are unacceptable and should not be traded with. Israel, for example, can legitimately claim statehood when all basic human rights and privileges, including immigration and habitation are granted equally by the government, regardless of ethnicity. The United States is in a position to steer Israel toward true reconciliation with the surrounding and permeating Arab World, but persists in ignoring basic standards of human rights. This failure can only be blamed on the ignorance of the American public, not on the Elders of Zion or other such nonsense.

When international affairs evolve into requiring the basics of human rights, then not only the more harmful aspects of Zionism will be removed, but also other conflicts of tribalism and racism that are raging worldwide. Especially regarding Israel, idle conversations, much less enforced UN Resolutions, singling out Jews as requiring "special treatment" to cure their zionism is clearly the wrong way to proceed. Political zionism will have to be discarded together with other racism, in order to go down less destructively.

travis
06-04-04, 06:54 PM
The "ignorance of the American public" can be attributed to the fact that organized Jewry has a monopoly on the mass media. Since they have the power of suggestion, the power of scrutiny, the power of censorship and the power of smear, it's doubtful things will change soon. The media has far more power than any Presidential administration. Media is in a perfect position to extort almost anything they want from the politicians, including money and wars for Israel.

http://www.wrmea.com/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm

We are a nation of sheep.

StarOfEight
06-04-04, 07:09 PM
Hype - yeah, Israel treats the Palestinians like shit. The Sauds treat every other Saudi Arabian like shit. People in the Middle East are generally treated like shit.

Hastein
06-04-04, 07:53 PM
Interesting how you separated "Zionist Jews" from "real Jews." I take it that you are saying only some Jews support what is being said in the above articles, while other Jews are just living an honest life, just the like the rest of us. Again, I don't really know enough, but I do appreciate your input.

Let me explain the difference. Jews are forbidden to have a homeland as outlined in the Old Testament. There is in fact an organization called Jews Against Zionism.

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

Zionism is rooted in the idea that Yawhew is a racial god who serves only the Hebrews and that all outsiders (Gentiles, pagans, heathens) are subject to the whim of the Hebrew people. This idea was dropped later with the arrival of Jehova, who was a universal god for all people, so Yawhew was adjusted accordingly. This may have to do with the theoretical war of the gods (based on historical findings prior to the Old Testament) that pitted Baal, Asthar, and Yawhew against eacother, Yawhew was a tribal god at the time and his people were the Hebrews. Zionism kicked off a fanatical cult following and Hitler himself supported Zionism in the hopes that it would finally get them out of Europe.

The fact that antisemitism is now considered a disorder does not suprise me. It is often hard for the PC crowd to admit that there are in fact differences between cultures, religions, and societies and that people logically stick to their OWN way of life because that is a natural instinct. Judaism is not based on nature, it is based on a psychopathic fantasy, as is Christianity and Islam.

DeeCee
06-06-04, 09:55 AM
Where's pothead when you need him?;)

Leave the Jews alone. If they didn't own America somebody else would have to.
Their doing us all a favour when you think about it.

Don't like those zionists though.
Dee Cee

Hastein
06-06-04, 12:47 PM
You contribute so much Dee Cee, please enlighten us further.