View Full Version : The Attacks of September 11th...a question for Green


Zero
01-29-03, 06:59 PM
You've been avoiding this for a loooooong time. Now answer the damn thing.

What do you think is the cause of 9/11?

You claim that all people with viewpoints different from yours are "hateful". You claim to find terrorism and suicide bombings in the bible. You call atheists assholes.

How do you explain 9 11? Was it caused by a Christian, then? Or an atheist? Do you think it never happened? Are you awake? Are you on :m:? Are you stupid? Hello?

Asguard
01-29-03, 07:01 PM
POLITICS, not religion caused it

Asguard
01-29-03, 07:05 PM
as i have yet to see ONE that has come from a netrul 3 party or that would be admissable in a court of law i can dissmiss them with no problems

Turduckin
01-29-03, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by Asguard
POLITICS, not religion caused it Politics and religion can be separated? :bugeye:

Zero
01-29-03, 07:38 PM
They CAN? :bugeye: :bugeye: :bugeye: Why didn't anyone inform me of this news?

Asguard
01-29-03, 07:41 PM
interesting question but i would say yes

the reasons it happened was things like, the unconditional surport of israils killing civillans AND millarty (just cause u sign up doesnt mean you HAVE to die), "destabalising" ect

basically the wests forgin policy

mohamed
01-29-03, 08:04 PM
so who realy did destroy the twins tower?
america didnt present a proof till now
4ooo jewish were absent that day from there work
u will say ben laden confesed ! let him talk as he want
but if he realy did it , i will tell u he is absolutely wrong and islam dont order us to kill innocients

mohamed
01-29-03, 08:14 PM
yes . u r absolutely right
and not politics only,ther is also economy, society , all scieneces
coz islam is a complete religion

odin
01-29-03, 08:27 PM
4ooo jewish were absent that day from there work
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Thats a muslim lie,no truth in it at all!

The Qur'an tells us: "not to make friendship with Jews and Christians" (5:51), "kill the disbelievers wherever we find them" (2:191), "murder them and treat them harshly" (9:123), "fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem" (9:5). The Qur'an demands that we fight the unbelievers, and promises "If there are twenty amongst you, you will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, you will vanquish a thousand of them" (8:65).

James R
01-29-03, 09:49 PM
mohamed:

<i>4ooo jewish were absent that day from there work</i>

Even if this is true, how it relevant to the current topic?

Tiassa
01-30-03, 12:45 AM
Is Green even around? Lacking any other discussion, I present the following for those who would choose to make 9/11 a "Muslim" issue: "Infinite Justice, Infinite Forgiveness" (http://authorworks.fnvops.com/media/media-13809.pdf), by Elsa Tamez, for the United States Conference of the World Council of Churches, presented to the United States Conference Annual Meeting Bible Study, March 1, 2002 (PDF).

? The discourse of Osama bin Laden transmitted by television showed that with the attack on the towers the United States was experiencing something that for many years the Muslims have suffered because of the United States. With this it also became clear that the attack of September 11was a revenge, the same as Bush's response to the attack. Bin Laden also threatened that there will be no security in the United States as long as there is none in the East. With these words he too was shouting, "Infinite justice!"

There exist two major differences between the attack against the World Trade Center and the tragedies suffered by Muslims as a result of American foreign policy:

(1) To die in the WTC disaster is still a more merciful death than many who starve or die slowly of infections for lack of resources and economy
(2) While Americans tend to hide behind their foreign policy--as long as an American officer isn't doing the shooting on orders from a superior, we're not responsible--and believe that financing and endorsing atrocities, as well as training officers who take part in (and in some cases, command) atrocities isn't that big of a deal. In contrast, you couldn't miss what happened at WTC without spending years under a rock somewhere in the middle of Afghanistan.

No matter how annoying people might find Green, I find it tragic that some would abuse the notion of 9/11 just to foster a personal dispute.

I mean, isn't it a little drastic to invoke geopolitics and then omit history just to ask an ill-intentioned question of someone you don't like?

Journal of Lutheran Ethics (http://www.elca.org/jle/articles/contemporary_issues/article.tamez_elsa.html), an HTML version of the above-linked PDF. (I think--it looks to be the same.)

thanx,
Tiassa :cool:

Green_World
01-30-03, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by Zero
You've been avoiding this for a loooooong time. Now answer the damn thing.

What do you think is the cause of 9/11?

You claim that all people with viewpoints different from yours are "hateful". You claim to find terrorism and suicide bombings in the bible. You call atheists assholes.

How do you explain 9 11? Was it caused by a Christian, then? Or an atheist? Do you think it never happened? Are you awake? Are you on :m:? Are you stupid? Hello?


If you are smart enough, you will find my answer in my thread: MUSLIMS AGAINST TERRORISM.

spuriousmonkey
01-30-03, 05:15 AM
maybe you (green_world) can summarize your answer in one sentence or two

edit: added (green_world)

Microzoft
01-30-03, 05:43 AM
Originally posted by Green_World
If you are smart enough, you will find my answer in my thread: MUSLIMS AGAINST TERRORISM.


If anyone is smart enough, will pay deserved attention
to nut.

Green_World slogan;
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Proud Muslim and strong believer in ALLAH ALMIGHTY.
Terminating all Anti-Islam forces wherever they are.
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:D

Zero
01-30-03, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by Green_World
If you are smart enough, you will find my answer in my thread: MUSLIMS AGAINST TERRORISM.

If you are smart enough, you will stop avoiding questions you can't answer, nutface.

In your thread, you constantly skirt the issue. Pathetic nutcase of a fundamentalist.

Green_World
01-31-03, 06:30 AM
Originally posted by Zero
If you are smart enough, you will stop avoiding questions you can't answer, nutface.

In your thread, you constantly skirt the issue. Pathetic nutcase of a fundamentalist.

HOPELSS ATHEIST :p

Green_World
01-31-03, 06:32 AM
Originally posted by spuriousmonkey
maybe you (green_world) can summarize your answer in one sentence or two

edit: added (green_world)

OK, terrorism did not exist in the muslim world before 1948( the year the nazi terrorist Israel was established by the biggest armed robbery on earth).

Islam is against any kind of terrorism including the western terrorism against other nations.

GENERALIZATION IS THE TOOLS OF THE FOOLS: BLACKSTONE, ZERO AND THIS MICROASSHOLE NUT.

Microzoft
01-31-03, 07:02 AM
Originally posted by Green_World
OK, terrorism did not exist in the muslim world before 1948( the year the nazi terrorist Israel was established by the biggest armed robbery on earth).

Islam is against any kind of terrorism including the western terrorism against other nations.

GENERALIZATION IS THE TOOLS OF THE FOOLS: BLACKSTONE, ZERO AND THIS MICROASSHOLE NUT.

Little Syrian boy, try to have the decency of answering properly, instead of avoiding issues and most of all undue insults. Or you re going to force me to reveal you completely.
:m:

Nebuchadnezzaar
01-31-03, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by Green_World
HOPELSS ATHEIST :p

ANTI-MOHAMMED(you)

Green_World
01-31-03, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by Microzoft
Little Syrian boy, try to have the decency of answering properly, instead of avoiding issues and most of all undue insults. Or you re going to force me to reveal you completely.
:m:

Have you been corresponding with the HOPELESS blackstone ??

reveal me ? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ..........MICRO-ASSHOLE.

:p

Nebuchadnezzaar
01-31-03, 08:12 AM
i thought swearing was not allowed inside the sciforums?

why is there so much swearing, is it really because people don't have a large enough vocabulary to express themselves in a civil manner?

spuriousmonkey
01-31-03, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by Nebuchadnezzaar
i thought swearing was not allowed inside the sciforums?

why is there so much swearing, is it really because people don't have a large enough vocabulary to express themselves in a civil manner?

swearing and using caps is allowed if you are a muslim

Green_World
01-31-03, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by Nebuchadnezzaar
i thought swearing was not allowed inside the sciforums?

why is there so much swearing, is it really because people don't have a large enough vocabulary to express themselves in a civil manner?
'

you use insults when the other side insult you, you see, if you dont reply back, they will think you are weak.

Green_World
01-31-03, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by spuriousmonkey
swearing and using caps is allowed if you are a muslim

No, swearing and using caps is allowed if you are

A- DUTCH
B- You somke the :m: and
C- you cross red lights and claiming it is SANE to do so.

You dont deserve any respect.

spuriousmonkey
01-31-03, 08:23 AM
but by replying to insults you admit insecurity on your own postion. Hence one might conclude that you have serious doubts about islam.

Green_World
01-31-03, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by spuriousmonkey
but by replying to insults you admit insecurity on your own postion. Hence one might conclude that you have serious doubts about islam.

You can ONLY have serious doubt about Islam if you smoke the famous DUTCH invention which enlightend the western civilization: the amazing :m:

:p

Nebuchadnezzaar
01-31-03, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by Green_World
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you use insults when the other side insult you, you see, if you dont reply back, they will think you are weak.

actually what you just described is going down to the other sides level(a level you claim to be above), not being a better man.

your getting a real kick out of this aren't you? annoying so many people. Well maybe you should be doing something constructive with your time, just a suggestion. Because your not doing anything constructive on this webforum, nothing.

spuriousmonkey
01-31-03, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by Green_World
You can ONLY have serious doubt about Islam if you smoke the famous DUTCH invention which enlightend the western civilization: the amazing :m:

:p
a generalization again...i thought we weren't allowed to use them, or is it just us that are not allowed to use them...and you got a special dispensation from allah.

sycoindian
01-31-03, 08:29 AM
---No, swearing and using caps is allowed if you are

A- DUTCH
B- You somke the and
C- you cross red lights and claiming it is SANE to do so.---

so what is your reason? A, B, C or all of em?

spuriousmonkey
01-31-03, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by Green_World


You dont deserve any respect.

you can't expect any respect if you don't give any respect in return

Green_World
01-31-03, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by Nebuchadnezzaar
actually what you just described is going down to the other sides level(a level you claim to be above), not being a better man.

your getting a real kick out of this aren't you? annoying so many people. Well maybe you should be doing something constructive with your time, just a suggestion. Because your not doing anything constructive on this webforum, nothing.

If you really think I am not doing anything constructive here, then you are living in the bananas world.

You have no idea how many PMs I am recieving from members who want to know more about Islam.

spuriousmonkey
01-31-03, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by Green_World
If you really think I am not doing anything constructive here, then you are living in the bananas world.

You have no idea how many PMs I am recieving from members who want to know more about Islam.

how many PMs did you receive of members wanting you to go away?

Green_World
01-31-03, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by spuriousmonkey
how many PMs did you receive of members wanting you to go away?

I have recieved 2 PMs from nasty people, one is ZERO and the other is this nut that I kicked away. notpresidentandrew.

the rest are all ENQUIRIES.

Many people here just dont bother to get involved in discussion, they just watch and read but some of them get so interested and they PM me.

I am really flattered by their supporting messages.

Nebuchadnezzaar
01-31-03, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by Green_World
I have recieved 2 PMs from nasty people, one is ZERO and the other is this nut that I kicked away. notpresidentandrew.

the rest are all ENQUIRIES.

Many people here just dont bother to get involved in discussion, they just watch and read but some of them get so interested and they PM me.

I am really flattered by their supporting messages.

please name names for us if they are you supporters they won't mind being associated with you will they?

or at least anyone who has PM'd Green World in support I urge you to come forward and voice your support for him.

oh wait no, they just sit back and say nothing except when they feel like PM'ing people, so we'd never hear from them on a thread would we? how fortunate for you Green World.

I think you flatter yourself, i feel sorry for you dude.

Nebuchadnezzaar
01-31-03, 09:18 AM
and he's offline, what a surprise

Bruce Wayne
01-31-03, 11:30 AM
Green_World

you are doing nicely... just do me a favor. Do me a favor and refrain from insulting poeple.

Green_World
01-31-03, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by Bruce Wayne
Green_World

you are doing nicely... just do me a favor. Do me a favor and refrain from insulting poeple.

I refraind for long time, they insulted me from day no.1 I came to here, I did complain, but nothing happened, go and check what zero called me, go and read what vienna called me, and why not have a look at microzoft record or blackstone.

I gave up, when they insult me, the only thing they will get is more powerful insult.

These hopless guys think they are better if you dont reply back.

Zero
01-31-03, 03:45 PM
Green, you are the one who have invaded this forum with inflammatory posts. Their titles and content are all very provocative.

Listen, you nutface, you are the aggressor. You barged in among us like the empty headed troll you are. Within ten days you managed to start 18 different threads. If that is not evidence of aggression then aggression has no fucking meaning.

Your first posts, first day. One of them is "All christians will go to hell according to the bible" and the other is "Why all christians are all converting to Islam". If that is not flaming, then flaming has no fucking meaning.

Here they are, nutcase.
http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15978

http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15976


You are a tumor that needs to be ripped out of sciforums ASAP.

Bruce Wayne
01-31-03, 05:22 PM
still, mon ami...

insulting poeple like blackstone only gives them a reason to exist...so again pls relax and don't respond to them.

ElectricFetus
02-01-03, 12:27 AM
So Green_Worlds been band???

Cris
02-01-03, 11:25 AM
Yup.

ElectricFetus
02-01-03, 11:31 AM
Cris was it you that did it?

replay to:
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16743

Cris
02-01-03, 11:36 AM
Zero,

And your frequent inflammatory ad hominem attacks on Green were somehow justified whereas Green's were not?

Please, please, in the future, attack the arguments as viciously as you like, avoiding unnecessary profanities of course, but please please do not attack the person even though what you believe might be true - just bottle it.

Green made frequent complaints to us about the abuse by other members. It makes it very hard for us to deal with someone when you are seemingly just as bad. Green would probably have been banned sooner had it not been for you, and others.

Please tone down your approach and think twice when tempted to throw unwanted abuse around.

ElectricFetus
02-01-03, 11:39 AM
???:confused: ??? were others band as well? I don't get it??? this should be addressed on the forum link below. It would be nice for all of us to know and learn about what situation this kind of banding(s) took place in!, if you wish to encourage better behavior here that is :D

replay to:
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16743

Cris
02-01-03, 11:47 AM
Wellcooked,

There was pretty much a general agreement between all the mods for this action. But I made the final request.

ElectricFetus
02-01-03, 11:55 AM
ok ok but were other band for this "GW vs sciforum people" flaming?

Cris
02-01-03, 12:11 PM
notPresidentAndrew was banned as well. But that was earlier in the week.

ElectricFetus
02-01-03, 12:25 PM
Ya he was band for starting post against GW am I right?

Cris
02-01-03, 12:50 PM
Partly but he also became disruptive in other forums.

Zero
02-01-03, 06:49 PM
I'm trying, Cris, I'm trying. I made every effort to control myself. However (you are an old man, you mighta forgotten ha ha) people as young as I have blood of fire. I just had to take a sword and hack GW into meat coleslaw when he claimed WE were the aggressors.

He came here to fight and flame. It's obvious from his first posts. Yet he accused us of being the aggressors. It's hard to keep calm under that.

I apologize for profanities, but nothing else. I maintain that he deserved every gram of it. I only apologize because the profanities might've offended members other than GW.

ElectricFetus
02-01-03, 06:54 PM
Cris,

Zero seems nice... don't band him :D

Cris
02-01-03, 08:31 PM
I dunno, that old man bit is very near the limit. Banning seems like a good idea to me.;)

odin
02-01-03, 08:34 PM
I dunno, that old man bit is very near the limit. Banning seems like a good idea to me.
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Thats right us oldies should stick together!
:D :D

ElectricFetus
02-01-03, 08:39 PM
Ya do it! On another thread Zero totally rams GW corpse in the @$$!!!

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=252504#post252504

Zero
02-02-03, 05:53 PM
Ok ok Cris fine you're as young as the day. Satisfied? :rolleyes:

Hey don't tell Cris that the Fountain of Youth is in my closet.