It is not up to us to have an individual interpretation of God. The Bible gives us the answer.

Vanja,

Well?? Don't stop there - please enlighten us so we can all stop bickering about it! Be sure to quote chapter and verse, if you please.

Where would you like to start? I'm sorry if I came off as omniscient, even though I am...NOT!!!

Vanja,

You did imply that there was only one answer - so it shouldn't be too hard to provide chapter and verse.

Pardon. I attempted to not be wordy and instead I conveyed too general a meaning. I meant no individual interpretations, such as using Scripture out of context or partial, rather than wholehearted, belief in the Bible. As far as The Answer goes--I meant the individual answers to any individual questions asked.

I believe the answers 42

Hitch hikers guide to the universe, chapter 12, page 482, paragraph 3, second line in, thrid word.

but dont quote me on that

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PercyPea,

You must be referring to the 42-letter name of God? Is it supposed to be written in that book you mentioned? Or are you just monkeeing around again?

U mean to say u never heard of hitch hikers guide to the Universe by Douglas Adams?

u a shambles :)

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Vanja,
The Bible is man written...not by God.
He didn't actually write it.. ok think
think really hard..you seem the type that
has been in a church or two.
How many times have you heard a preacher
say one thing..then come back and say oh no..
I was wrong...God has showed me different!
Well if that can happen now..it surely could
have happend then! The people back in
bibical times were not any more special than
today!

Flash: Remember those chapter's i sent you? I lost them, but that would PROVE that the Bible doesn't give us the answer.. Do you still have them?

Oh.. one more thing..Why aren't we allowed to read the WHOLE bible. Where is the rest of the books of Moses and all the other stuff that HAVE been in there, but have been removed by the Catholics.. ?

PercyPea,

I've heard of it of course - this does not equal having read it, though! However, your answer of "42" did provoke my interest a bit, and I have reasons for that interest. What did you mean by that (or are you gonna make me buy that danged book?)?

Dont worry monkee searcher, the book is not really meant to be taken seriously :)

Basically, some race of people asked a super powerful computer what the meaning of life, the universe and everything was.

After 9 million years or something, it came back with the answer of 42

42???? everyone exclaimed, and the computer went on to say that really the answer is nothing without the question, and when asked if he could work out the question, the computer said he couldnt but that he'd make a new better super computer that could, and that super computer was called 'The Earth'

It would take 65 million years for 'The Earth' to work out what the question is, unfortunatly, it was destroyed to make way for an interstella highway, 5 minutes before it had completed the calculation.

booooooooooooooooo :)

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PercyPea,

That is very interesting, whether or not the author intended it to be taken seriously. I wonder if he knew about the kabbalist belief that the name of God contains 42 letters, and that this is the key to decoding the information encoded in Genesis regarding the age of the universe? Kabbalist Nechunya ben HaKanah calculated the age of the universe to be 15.3 billion years old, using the book of Genesis and this 42-letter key. It might also be interesting to note that Nechunya lived during the first century A.D.

Flash-I don't believe I've heard that type of contradiction. It's a shame that, apparently, you have. By the way, I no longer attend church. Talk to you tomorrow, y'all.

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It's almost impossible NOT to have heard ofHitch hikers guide to the universe, howerver, it is probable that not everyone's read it.

Please, could someone tell me what it says in chapter 12, page 482, paragraph 3, second line in thrid word ?

It says 42

hangon i already said that

oh, bye the way

my books v old, and is probably set out completely different to any bodie elses, and errr, the bit where it says 42 could even be in a different chapter in ur versions

ummmm, shambles

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Vanja,
I want to apologize for all the posts that
I wrote to you in the manner I did.
You were a victim of a bad bad day... again,
I apologize.

H-Kon,
:( No, I am sorry. My account with
hotmail got to large and they deleted a lot
of shit I had saved.

Flash,

The Bible is the divine word of God. Written by the Holy Spirit....interpreted by men. It's important to read the Bible with the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Notice that I didn't say the guidance of anything BUT the Holy Spirit. It's the truth. The only truth out there.

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truth is truth no matter where or by whom
you seek it.

Flash,

You're playing with fire. The only place that you are going to get the truth is from the Bible via the Holy Spirit. Are you saying that there is no such thing as deception? Hence, all the warnings of it in the Bible, yes? Oh, that's where the "Bible was written by men" part comes in? You're really grasping at straws, and I'm afraid you'll end up with the short one. I know why you don't want the Bible to be the truth. But even though you don't want it to be, it still is. If you think that you can get the truth from a wide variety of sources, then let me ask you...what do you think of the line of bullshit that Satan is feeding to you regarding the Word of God? Let me put it this way....if one could easily tell the difference between the truth and a lie, there would be no such thing as deception. Think about that for a minute. Ok, now I ask what is the central theme, and the driving point in the end times revelation prophecy in the Bible? That's right....deception. The Holy Spirit is the only way. You can bet your soul on that.

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Lori,
Is there such a thing as deception? Yeah,
I'd say probably..IF one is stupid enough to allow it -wearing rose colored glasses ect...
Satan is not feeding me anything Lori.
Also, I am not saying the bible is not true
for certain reasons. As I have told you
before...I have researched it.
Different sources shouldn't matter..as long
as truth is revealed. Truth is what matters.

Lori & Vanja--

I tend to think you both have it exactly correctly. At least, I think what you both say applies wonderfully to Christians. However, for the majority of the world population that is not Christian, I guess there's a question to be had:

Vanja ... since it's your topic--

* There are six billion people in the world. We all interpret data we receive based on comparisons to old data; it is impossible to consider what we cannot conceive. In order for six billion people to read the word of your most esteemed God and then to give you the same take on it requires that they all have identical experience sets. For instance, those who have wealth and power, and consider themselves wealthy and powerful, might take "The meek shall inherit the Earth" to be a threat, while those without funds or clout might take it to be a hopeful promise. From different individual experiences come differing priorities. Unless we wipe out two-thousand years of institutional Christianity in order to undo the damage, there will never again be a single take on the Bible.

How can it NOT be subject to interpretation?

thx,
Tiassa

PS--Forty-two is more important here than the jokes might imply. The reasons why it's forty-two are more important than the answer itself.

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Flash-Have a great day! Please! haha

tiassa-You're right. We're all individuals with our own free will and interpretations. That's what makes people so wonderful. However, people should not take single verses from the Bible to suit their purposes. This is why I mention entire sections which complete the thought. I hope no one takes offense--that is not my object. I have had religion shoved down my throat in the above-stated fashion and don't believe that it will endear Christians to anyone.

Flash,

The Bible doesn't say that the stupid people will be deceived. The scripture says that he will deceive even the very elect. He will come in peace and deceive many, even the very elect. Aaaaaaaand, yes, that would be the OPPOSITE of the stupid ones. Hence the deception. Do you think that I think that you're being deceived cause you're stupid? I thought that we covered that already? No, no, no. You're a smarty-pants too, you just need to tap into the Holy Spirit is all. IN A BIG WAY DUDE!!!! So would ya get on that please???????

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Lori,
What makes you so sure that I haven't already?????