Wal-Mart made people work for practically nothing...
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=6827
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that my friends, is what happens when capitalism runs rampant. Profit is the number 1 priority, so if they can get free labor, they will. Legal or not. And they call people, living breathing people, with lives, familys, and loved ones, "human resources".

Iron is a resource. Oil is a resource. A human being is a person.

Originally posted by reformedtopunk
when capitalism runs rampant.

When capitalism runs rampant, if you don't like your job, you leave.

i like my job. But its corporations that usually fuck over their employees.

Well Im sure they'll sue the shit out of Wal-Mart and come out a few million ahead.

Ahhhh.... how great it is to live the American Way!

Originally posted by reformedtopunk
i like my job. But its corporations that usually fuck over their employees.

What makes you think employees never fuck over corporations?

definately. I'm sure it happens. but which do you think happens more often?

Originally posted by reformedtopunk
definately. I'm sure it happens. but which do you think happens more often?

It doesn't matter.

1. Our economy is built on freedom. If you don't like your job, you have the freedom to leave.

2. It is totally not for the corporations' best interests to fuck their workers over. Workers are the most important assets in a company. Happy employees are far more productive and valuable than unhappy ones.

3. The statement "corporations like to fuckover employees under capitalism" is very ignorant and false. There will be a few that does, because there are lots of incompetant managers, like mine for example.

Recommended reading list:

Capitalism and Freedom - Milton Friedman

If you have something against capitalism, read that book. Even if you are still against capitalism, you can put up better arguments in a debate after you have read it.

So whats all this made to work for nothing then?
:confused:

u think this isnt NORMAL?????

hell no matter where i get a job i only get $7.50 an hr which in USD comes to roughly half that

out of that im surpose to pay school fees which r REQUIRED for the job, text books, knives, any equiptment the paticular boss decides i have to buy rather than it being a company expence ect

needless to say im STILL stuck at home cause i dont have a pray of afording to move out

just for the record what im being paid is LESS than the junior wages my sister was getting paid at safeway when she was 16 (she got $8 an hr)

just B\W have a look at how the australian banks treat not only there staff but there coustimers

record profits but less branches all the time

same with petrol industry

hell they should have been taken for calusion but we have a libral goverment

THANKS EVERYONE WHO VOTED LIBRAL, HOPE U LOVE THE $1 a litter petrol

well at least we have a left wing state goverment thank god

and bye bye upper house:D

Lets not forget the resident Walmart employee! (Me) I have never been made to work overtime. If my boss asked me to work off the clock then I would say no. No frelling way. Those people are stupid and don't deserve any money, they did it because they thought they had to do it.

Ah people are just to greedy.

i hate walmart. well.. not as much as i used too, but we'l see...
my girls do a bakesale there every year, and they have a prgram where they match what we make from the baksale. Well, last we turned in our paper, and they said it will be a cpuple weeks.. and then i called and they said, ok , i see your file, its gonna be a few days, then they said, i see your file, its gonn abe a nother week.. after about 10 months of this i called WM HQ and they said "i have no record of you even having a bakesale there. :mad:
so we had another one this year and finally after 11 months i got ahold of the lady incharge of fundraising when i went to turn in this years form. I told her about all of the problems i had and she said she'd file me in for both amounts, this years and last years.
We'll see what happens in January.

just B\W have a look at how the australian banks treat not only there staff but there customers

record profits but less branches all the time

same with petrol industry
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There copying the UK example then,but you still have some catching up to do on the price of petrol.


:(

luckly we have ONE good bank, the bendigo

and they r FINALLY investagating the petrol industry for colusion


GOOOOOOO the goverment (i actully like the tresure, but then he IS a repulican:D)

WHen I worked at Wal-Mart (two whole months, whoo! Worst job I"ve ever had, and I have pumped gas) we had to clean up the store after it closed, making us stay until 11, but we got payed for it. They were actually really good abut paying overtime and stats.

Capitalism....:rolleyes:

"Wal-Mart, which turns over a cool $218 billion a year, came under massive attack from 400 employees from nearly 80 per cent of the shops it had in Oregon, reports stated."

..."Wally World"*.....:rolleyes:

*aka: as my homestay mother calls Wal-Mart...:D

Originally posted by reformedtopunk
that my friends, is what happens when capitalism runs rampant. Profit is the number 1 priority, so if they can get free labor, they will. Legal or not. And they call people, living breathing people, with lives, familys, and loved ones, "human resources".

Iron is a resource. Oil is a resource. A human being is a person.

That is also why capitalism will never die except along with the human race. The law of capitalism is whatever works is good, whatever dosnt is bad. The society comes above any individual or group.

Sounds harsh but by its very definition it will work. Even if the nation falls, the society will persevere.

Wal-Mart, which turns over a cool $218 billion a year, came under massive attack from 400 employees from nearly 80 per cent of the shops it had in Oregon, reports stated."

TruthSeeker, I only see about .0000000000001% of that.

NightFall, Im sorry about your bad experience. Has anyone here heard of Meijers? We have about 3 of them here now, they are like a walmart but not. Also I would like to notate that I work at Super WalMart, not regular walmart.

I am a resource, I work for them and do their bidding. Sorta like how the iron in a ship would hold it together, except the iron doesnt get paid... they also dont get benifits... okay Im nothing like iron...:bugeye: Bad analogy.

/CounslerCoffee

everyone has heard of meijer. however, you will find that they do not support those types of fundraisers. or actually any for that matter.

The society comes above any individual or group.

Strange. I've always thought that to be the kind of rethoric communist or marxist likes to brandish - "collective interest above individual"

Didn't know capitalism has similiar inclinations.

The Wal-Mart employees chose to work for free. They may have so chosen so they could be eligible for a class action lawsuit. Nowadays in the U.S. if your employer screws up then you and your lawyer win the lottery.

Nightfall, I suspect you’d get the money soon if you wrote Wal-Mart the sad story you posted here and added that you’ll be telling the newspapers about it if the funds are not forthcoming, with the suggested headline: Wal-Mart Gyps Little Girls on Bake Sale.

do u know what the bigest problem with no clocked overtime is?

ur not covered by workcover if u get injured (at least thats how it is here)

[overtime]...they did it because they thought they had to do it. I have always thoughts this! I have been asked before but just say no however i have known people who say yes as if they feel obliged. I havent in any-way but i suspect it is very different if you have a family: you need your job, plus if a manager is getting pressure to get some work done then that pressure will come to the workers. Maybe i havent felt this pressure yet because i am young and 'foot-loose' and can say no when asked to do overtime without worrying about the consequences: when i lose my jobs ( :d ) it is no big deal; i just sign on or look for another job. 'The society comes above any individual or group.'
Strange. I've always thought that to be the kind of rethoric communist or marxist likes to brandish - "collective interest above individual" The society doesnt come into it at all (i dont think). Thats why all those people were marching in London (ant-capitalist riots). Look how many people there were. The only interests taken into account are the money holders: banks, oil companies etc. It is them who hold all the cards and they can therefore direct peoples lives and even lifestyle: some places only employ non-smokers, and to get to the top in some companies (or to even keep your job) you probably would have to be married (if your boss doesnt like someone who has lots of different partners then you wont get very far). There was a film with Tom Cruise in it (i think) where this young talented banker (again i think) was brilliant at his job and this company wanted him to work for them so they lavished him and his wife with everything: nice house, car, good wages, and encouraged them to have kids so that they could trap him into working for them forever. This kind of thing happens in real life: tax breaks for married couples etc, and so the government (with all of the countries pooled money) can direct peoples lives in this way. These governments also accept 'donations' from large companies.

everyone has heard of meijer... :bugeye: Well i havent!

um the tax breaks r there to make life EASIER for those of us who think that chidren r more important than a new car

(no i dont have kids yet but i am sick of lissioning to people say we dont want kids cause it would reck our life style, i wish there parents had done that)

Originally posted by Neville
:bugeye: Well i havent!
http://www.meijer.com