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Benauld
06-17-07, 12:00 PM
In the Alien films the creatures were supposed to have had concentrated acid for blood, right?

Now, I can understand what with being in space and all and having no access to it, however, once they had reached Earth, why did it not occur to any of the crew, that bleach (or any other strong alkaline solution) would have seriously fucked with any acid based circulatory system?

Any thoughts out there?

(Q)
06-17-07, 12:16 PM
Is it because the blood was silicon based and not carbon?

redarmy11
06-17-07, 12:21 PM
No, it's because characters in films are reknowned for consistently overlooking obvious solutions and/or making disastrous decisions until the film enters its last half-hour.

(Q)
06-17-07, 12:23 PM
Of course, how silly of me.

peta9
06-17-07, 12:32 PM
They could have offered the aliens soda to drink.

Repo Man
06-17-07, 12:42 PM
In the original, trying to poison the face hugger when it was attached to Kane might have made a difference. But the crew of the Nostromo were relying on the medical/science officer (Ash), who turned out to be an android whose primary programming was to secure a live xenomorph.

The fight against the aliens was consistently undercut by the greedy desire of some humans to try and study them for potentially profitable use as a bioweapon.

Here's an interesting question; do you think the xenomorphs evolved, or do you think they were created as a bioweapon?

GeoffP
06-17-07, 12:54 PM
They were created as a bioweapon to liberate money from your pocket.

Nikelodeon
06-17-07, 12:55 PM
They could have just nuked them, just to be sure.

Benauld
06-17-07, 03:01 PM
Sorry Repo, it's been a while since I last sat down and watched them. I thought that the aliens were originally discovered by accident - on an equally alien spaceship (if you see what I mean)? If not, how the hell did the "company" know that they were on that particular planet?

As for you bioweapon question, interesting... however, one would assume that the creators of a bioweapon would "build in" a control mechanism of some kind, or some other deliberate flaw. After all, there is no use in creating a weapon if it blows up in your face, so to speak!

Repo Man
06-17-07, 03:17 PM
The ship on which the crew of the Nostromo "accidentally" discovered the aliens was broadcasting a signal. The Company had already translated the signal as a warning, but used it as a reason to send the crew of the Nostromo to investigate.

The Company (identified as Weyland Yutani in the subsequent films) also sent someone to investigate the ship (which had ceased broadcasting the warning signal sometime over the years) in Aliens, resulting in the terraforming colony being infested.

There is nothing but speculation on why the original ship had them on board. AFAIK, the original authors have never stated a reason. Were they accidentally infected on the planet of origin of the species? Were they the victim of a bioweapon created by an unknown alien species at war with them? Were they transporting a bioweapon that they had created, only to lose control of and fall victim to?

I've always wondered about the bioweapon aspect because of the incredible lethality of the xenomorph. What sort of ecosystem could they have evolved in? They would have to have nearly as tough prey/incubator species to avoid extinction caused by eliminating the species they need in order to reproduce.

If there is ever to be another good film using this species, I think it would involve actually finding its planet of natural origin, and viewing the other lethal species that such an ecosystem would have to have.

Edit: Some interesting information and speculation here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Jockey_(Alien)

Fugu-dono
06-29-07, 11:51 PM
I just want another quality Alien film that will end the damn thing. The fourth movie especially and AVP was crap and really makes alot of noobs avoid the very good first two Alien films.

That said I heard AVP2 is coming out soon. I sure hope it's ALOT better than the first one. That was beyond mediocrity. It wasn't subpar either. It was just plain POOR. Not to mention it was bloody short.

Orleander
06-30-07, 07:26 AM
The only thing (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=108) I like about the Alien movies. :D

spidergoat
06-30-07, 01:05 PM
The acidic blood was not their only defense, and they didn't use it as an offensive weapon. The only way an alkaline substance would be effective is to inject it into the creature. They seem to have an inert exoskeleton, so just spraying some on them wouldn't work.

Ripley
06-30-07, 02:33 PM
Alien 4 revealed them to be exquisite swimmers, like seals.

darksidZz
07-03-07, 01:17 PM
This is a good thread.

The problem is simple, Alien 1 was to damn low in volume, ya can barely make out what they're chattering about in the mess hall.

Aliens was fantastic, a monument that forever added the films to history. How anyone can go from that to Alien 3 is beyond me, it took real pathetic directing, also sick directing.

Alien Resurrection was pretty good, it was near the level of Alien IMO. So that leaves us with the question, what next? AVP wasn't horrible, but kinda funnny at the same time.

spidergoat
07-03-07, 02:07 PM
You're tripping! Alien3 was great, but Alien Resurection was a flop. AVP wasn't even close.

shaman_
07-08-07, 10:30 PM
Alien 3 was a depressing, gloomy movie. It was probably a little better than Resurrection. They were both OK though.

AVP was just a b grade horror movie. Not in the same league as the others.

The first two were excellent of course.

superstring01
07-08-07, 11:21 PM
You're tripping! Alien3 was great, but Alien Resurection was a flop. AVP wasn't even close.

I agree... mostly.

Alien 3 was a gem that has gone unappreciated. I LOVE the wonderful tidbits were are given about the "future society". The grafiti is also a nice touch. The best part, for me, was getting to see that the "Bishop" who was claiming to be a real human being getting bashed upside the head to reveal that he is, indeed, a synthoid (spawning some speculation that most of the upper echelons of society were populated by them... something sadly lost in Aliens 4).

Though I enjoyed Aliens 4, it was definately the worst of the "original" Alien films.

And as for AVP II... well, screw them. AVP sucked so bad that I left the theater.

~String