Which is better?

Don't forget to tell why!

Just is

Farscape is much better!

Farscape has well rounded characters, great plot lines, cliff hangers that leave you guessing, good looking women, and great comedy!

Lies, all LIES!!

Thor! The truth will set you free! You say its a like because you think its a lie, Farscape's good CGI effects, great plot lines, and killer actors are not a lie!

The truth will set you free
And you say this to The Walker Of Dreams?
I have seen the light, it is gate shaped!!

Farscape's good CGI effects
Admitdly good

great plot lines
Ok then...whatever the pills make you think

and killer actors are not a lie!
The dude who plays John is a great actor. That Claudia Black is a terrible actor for sure. The rest are ok

:bugeye: :mad: Hey you--yes, you! The one who has recently voted for Farscape... Show yourself!

From now on, NO ONE vote without posting here and showing who you are. ...please...

I am revealed. Yeah, Farscape is a bit better, only because I never watch Stargate SG-1 :m:

Then your opinion is bias and thus it is void :p

I dunno.... Major Carter IS kind of sexy... :p

She has her moments, granted. But the strut, the STRUT is so goddamn annoying!!

Welll, looks like SG1's winning. We should have a thread on your favorite Stargate episode, since we all know it's going to win =D

My fav episode was the one where they kept looping in time, reliving the same day over and over. "Should we not get to work O'Neil?" "I'm taking this loop off." :D

I've already started such a thread...but I can't find any of the Stargate related threads I started...even with the setting set to 'Since beginning'

Suspicious methinks

Oh shut up, Thor. :)I should merge this thread with the other one, they are both the same topic... Hmmm. No I won't.

Stargate is a spinoff, Farscape is totally original.

Every actor in Farscape is awesome. The actors in SG-1 are okay, but they seem like ripoffs of the stargate characters.

John Crichton is the reignest mutha in the universe, only few characters compare to him and his struggles.

John Crichton is the reignest mutha in the universe, only few characters compare to him and his struggles.

Yes. Not even Captain Kirk can compare to the coolness of John Crichton.

Did I mention that the Jim Henson creature shop kicks butt? What do the people on SG1 have? Little gold plates on their foreheads, thats it. Look at D'argo, now look at Teal'c... Tell me which one has better makeup and special effects. Huh?

Look at D'argo, now look at Teal'c.

That's because D'argo is supposed to be an alien, whereas Teal'c is supposed to be a human host carrying a gou'ould inside him :rolleyes: :p

They could of least made the Asguard look cool, Xelios. Or the fact that every alein on that show looks like a human... but they aren't all the way human because they have purple hair instead of blond! Same thing with startrek, but not Farscape. Rygel rules, Pilot rules, Chianna rules, Stark... was crazy.

Until computers and programs are fast enough to replace human actors with CGI aliens automatically and with very little cost - we will see human looking aliens in most movies.

They need to add a few more chicks in to SG-1. Now that they are back to back - who knows, could happen.

THE REPLOCATORS:p


thor ROCKS and him and jack are cool together

never can understand farscape but i can miss weeks of SG-1 and i know whats happerning cause they still make sence

AND THE REPLORCATORS:D

Xelos: these people are driving me nuts:
it means crazy, insane, three fries short of a happy meal, WACO

heheheh

Oh shut up, Thor
Make me :p

Stargate is a spinoff
Well, how did you get to that I wonder....the film was cool and was worthy of a show. And the show surpasses the greatness of the film. I don't see a Farscape film :p

but they seem like ripoffs of the stargate characters
Well duh

Not even Captain Kirk can compare to the coolness of John Crichton.
Dude, Captain Kirk wasn't cool. Only nerds think he's coo...oh, wait, now I see :D

Look at D'argo, now look at Teal'c
Teal'c is a human with a symbiot inside of him, he is Jaff'a so meh!!

They could of least made the Asguard look cool
They did. You have your idea of cool all wrong. They're supposed to be roswell aliens. They've supposed to have visited our planet many, many times and people have made sightings of them. It's making the whole story fit in with real life. I mean, sheesh, that's obvious to my lil sister.

Or the fact that every alein on that show looks like a human
Could be the fact that every "alien" is in fact a human (except the obvious ones like the Asgard)!! Duh!! The human homeworld is Earth. Even by seeing the film you should know this.

thor ROCKS and him and jack are cool together
Why thank you *blushes* Oh, I geddit, it's like that eh!! Thor and Jack have a great screen presence together. The smart and the...erm...not so smart. But they both admire and respect each other

AND THE REPLORCATORS
Now in Human form available in your local toy store!!

The reason every alien looks human is because they are, as thor mentioned. The Gou'ould took humans from Earth to be slaves on other planets, until an uprising on Earth killed off the serpent guards and buried the gate. That's why everyone else is human :rolleyes:

Only real alien races so far have been the Asguard, the Unas, the replicators and those flying white things, don't know what they're called by Daniel turned into one when he died =/ Probably missed a couple, but I haven't seen any of the new seasons, I don't get SciFi channel :mad:

They were white buddhist spirit things

Oh yeeah! Stargate has taken the lead! (err, a greater lead than before, that is). Interesting, in the previous threads there seemed to be more Scapers. Guess they all chickened away when they saw how many people like Stargate.:p

Xelios, you forgot to mention the Gould, the Nox, and quite a bit of others shown in single episodes.

Hahah, I've just swung the results. :D SG has better acting, better sfx, better plots, longer running, everything's better. :)

Reinforcements have arrived, wooyeah!!

Originally posted by Thor
wooyeah!!
lol, is that your new saying or something?

That among others!!

Firefly, last I heard SG1 had no critical acclaim... oh wait, it still doesn't. Farscape does, SG1 gets better ratings because it's mindless TV (most of it ripped off from startrek, or other shows) That's where SG1 gets most of its ideas.

CC:

mindless tv is right. I need your help over at http://www.ascifi.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=381129#post381129. It seems there are a lot of "gaters" over there.

Thor: my vote made it 50/50.:p

oz

Most scifi shows seem to be based on ships - all the treks are, so is FS, Andromeda, my namesake... SG isn't.

Most shows are based in the future, and away from Earth... SG isn't.

Most shows (I'm going mainly by Trek here) have aliens as humans with a dodgy nose of something. SG has managed to mostly avoid that. FS has a crew member painted in blue. That in itself makes me totally :rolleyes: and lose interest.

Anyway, that's three arguments in my favour as to why SG is more original. I'm not going to try and argue you out of your opinion, but I think the reason I prewfer gate over trek and scape is because it's original, and I can aliken to it the best. I don't really care what experienced critics think or say, what matters to me is if I like it.

Most scifi shows seem to be based on ships - all the treks are, so is FS, Andromeda, my namesake... SG isn't.
Nope. If you actually watch the show, then you will see that during season 3 and 4 that they get seperated on more then one occasion. SG1 always trys to do something with a ship! BUT WAIT! When they do get a ship they end up 1,000,000,000,000,000 light years away from Earth! And what happens? They get thrown back to Earth really fast, by the replicatros and the asguard once.... That looks like a repeating plotline to me.

Most shows are based in the future, and away from Earth... SG isn't.

Neither is Farscape.

Anyway, that's three arguments in my favour as to why SG is more original. I'm not going to try and argue you out of your opinion, but I think the reason I prewfer gate over trek and scape is because it's original, and I can aliken to it the best. I don't really care what experienced critics think or say, what matters to me is if I like it.

Stargate being rewritten garbage that was thrown out of my window and into the trash. YOu may like it, but I find it insulting. The overly simple plot lines are just that: insulting.

Originally posted by Firefly
SG has better acting, better sfx, better plots :)

Dude, you must be high.:m: Have you ever seen Farscape? The special effects are motion picture quality as is the acting. As to the better plots, I suppose they are better to someone who wants to turn off his mind while watching tv. Makes the term "idiot box" apropos.;)

oz

Firefly, last I heard SG1 had no critical acclaim... oh wait, it still doesn't. Farscape does
Counsler, you are so shallow. Acclaim means nothing. It's just selling points (that you're buying, tsk tsk).

Thor: my vote made it 50/50.
DRONE!!

Nope. If you actually watch the show, then you will see that during season 3 and 4 that they get seperated on more then one occasion. SG1 always trys to do something with a ship! BUT WAIT! When they do get a ship they end up 1,000,000,000,000,000 light years away from Earth! And what happens? They get thrown back to Earth really fast, by the replicatros and the asguard once.... That looks like a repeating plotline to me.
She was implying that it wasn't ship based, it's ground based. It's a different approach. Open your eyes!!

Neither is Farscape.
It's still far away

YOu may like it, but I find it insulting
I find the arrogance here insulting :p

Dude
Correction, dudette

I love the way Stargate makes all the plots fit in with the current state of our secretive governments and they're not afraid to be a lil silly. Like the Wormhole X-Treme on, that was good for a laugh but it also makes you think if there are any shows out there that are actually real events...or could Stargate in fact be one!!

lol Thor, thanks. ;)

Originally posted by CounslerCoffee
Nope. If you actually watch the show, then you will see that during season 3 and 4 that they get seperated on more then one occasion.
FS has had 4 seasons?! :eek: Wow, so didn't realise. thought it was getting axed? :confused:

Neither is Farscape.
Farscape is based on Earth? Present day?! I find that hard to believe.

I don't think the acting of Kevin Sorbo is anything to be astonished by... I'm sure he has more criticism than RDA anyway. ;)

I like SG because it's not your average "Heroic crew galavanting around the galaxy meeting new aliens and exploring uncharted space" show. I can't say Farscape is this kind of show, because I've only ever seen 2 episodes of it. From what I've seen I'd probably like Farscape too, but since I don't get SciFi channel I can't say =D

"Heroic crew galavanting around the galaxy meeting new aliens and exploring uncharted space"

Actually thats exactly what it is, and it does a poor job of it to. They always seem to servive everything, they always kill off extras, and if one of them does die, then its a robot. PA-lease.

That's not what they do at all, I'm talking about flying around in a starship. SG1 takes an entirely new approach to SciFi, and something that is set in the real world today. The reason they don't kill of main characters is because people don't want that. You don't want to get to like a character only to have him die, look at the uproar killing off Daniel caused, people built websites for him, sent in letters, made petitions and finally they brought him back. People don't want to see a new main character every week, and while I admit it's a bit cheezy that no one ever dies (like in ST) it's what people want.

That's not what they do at all, I'm talking about flying around in a starship. SG1 takes an entirely new approach to SciFi,
No, SG1 doesnt, its recycled garbage. Im sure that scifi channel is using old sliders scripts to write the current season for SG1. If you originality, something smart, something sexy, then watch Farscape. Farscape is original, Farscape is what true scifi is meant to be.

...Farscape is sh*t

THe only things good about Farscape is the actor who plays John and the theme music

the other problem with killing of caricters all the time is it FORCES you to have to watch the whole time to know whos who or your left with spending half of every eposode introducing everyone

i mean how much of a book is caricter intoductions?

same with a movie

Thor: you don't even get Farscape in the UK so save your uneducated opinion for your mindless SG1 cronies.:p

oz

ps and what does that say about the UK?

Am I the only one who isn't really bothered what everyone else watches? I'm mean, CC, so what if I watch SG? Why do you feel obliged to point out how crap you think it is? :confused:

Yes, I know, I'm missing the point of the thread. :p

*sighs*

Thor: you don't even get Farscape in the UK
Show's how much you know

so save your uneducated opinion for your mindless SG1 cronies
Uneducated, pah!! I have qualifications in media and film studies so meh!!

ps and what does that say about the UK?
We get the cream of the US TV crop. If Farscape is rarely shown, but Stargate is shown on two seperate channels....you do the maths

Yes, I know, I'm missing the point of the thread
But what are you gonna do!

She was implying that it wasn't ship based, it's ground based. It's a different approach. Open your eyes!!

THey are on the ground most of the time to.

Am I the only one who isn't really bothered what everyone else watches? I'm mean, CC, so what if I watch SG? Why do you feel obliged to point out how crap you think it is?
Im not, Im just arguing that its a good show.

Most shows are based in the future, and away from Earth... SG isn't.

FS isnt based in the future. Farscape has been to Earth, they are on Earth right now. Why do all the scifi shows have to take place on Earth? It makes no sense. It doesnt have to be that way. FS is only doing this for a while, and it has to do with wormholes.

and it has to do with wormholes.
As does Stargate :bugeye:

lol Thor. :D

Originally posted by CounslerCoffee
Im not, Im just arguing that its a good show.
Why can't you just let everyone have their own opinion? :confused:

Why do all the scifi shows have to take place on Earth? It makes no sense.
The majority don't (Andromeda, Firefly, ST:V, TOS, TNG, DS9, Space 2001 etc etc) but personally I prefer one I can alike to; that is based on present day, and one Earth. :)

While we're talking about other SciFi shows, what did you all think of Earth Final Conflict? I remember I watched a couple episodes in the beginning and thought to myself "This is the stupidest show I've ever seen.". Then Andromeda came out, and I knew it was the stupidest show I've ever seen, so I started watching EFC again. The season with Liam I thought was some of the best sci fi I'd seen in a while, it was one of those shows where you have to watch every episode because the storyline builds off previous episodes. Up to the Atavus I thought it was a very good show, after that though it went down the crapper.

Xelios,

I thought EFC was a piece of shit. Andromeda, on the other hand, is a good (not great) show IMO.

oz

The first few seasons of EFC kicked butt... Andromeda is okay. What do yall think of The Dead Zone? I adore that show.

lol Xelios. Yeah, I liked EFC, I used to watch it, but I think it conflicted with another TV programme that I valued more, so I had to stop watching it. And now I can't be bothered get back into it.

I thought EFC was a piece of shit. Andromeda, on the other hand, is a good (not great) show IMO.

You hated EFC but liked Andromeda? How the hell?! :p I thought Andromeda was the worst show ever made, I mean, Teir is German for 'animal', that's just lame. And the SFX? Pah-lease! And that one guy, the young one that supposedly the nerd of the group, he annoyed me more than Wesley from TNG (which is a feat in itself).

The thing that made EFC so good was that the storyline built of previous episodes, and it wasn't completely linear. Sometimes a new episode would build off events that happened 10 episodes ago. They'd show little bits of old episodes at the beginning of each new one that had to do with what was going to happen in this episode. I thought that was very nicely done.

Originally posted by Xelios
I mean, Teir is German for 'animal', that's just lame.
It's spelt Tyr (on the show) if it makes it any less lame. :p

The thing that made EFC so good was that the storyline built of previous episodes, and it wasn't completely linear. Sometimes a new episode would build off events that happened 10 episodes ago.
Which was a problem if you were a new watcher, or hadn't watched each episode. :p

A few weeks ago I would have said Farscape, but the new season of Stargate has been awesome. So I have to go with Stargate.

A few weeks ago I would have said Farscape, but the new season of Stargate has been awesome. So I have to go with Stargate

Those are the worst two episodes of SG1 that I have ever watched, and its not the new season, they went on hiatus for a while. So what your seeing is the end of Season 8 or 7?

Season 6. Neither Season 7 or 8 have been made yet, I think. :p

If you're talking about SG.

Teir is German for 'animal'
It's spelt 'Tier' and it either means Animal or Beast

Yeah, Season 6 has just ended in the UK, Season 7 has been made I believe and 8 is in the making...I've heard. Not sure.

I just checked, season 8 is a go. I hope that it's better then this current season, its been less then thrilling.

But I bet it giives us some crucial background information. I don't care about the guns or anything, just give me the knowledge of the Stargate universe!! But guns would be sweet

Oh oh!! You know that episode where Daniels wife dies for real, that episode sucked completely, but the very first scene just blows your mind. It is one of the most adrenaline packed, coolest scene in Sci-Fi history...if anyone else has at least seen the beggining of that episode they'd agree. It's awesome!!

Remember way back when they meet Machello? And he says he has the technology to defeat the Gou'ould, and it's encrypted in his own language that he made up? And he says "I wish I had time to show you the language" and Sam says "I'll figure it out", does she ever figure it out? I mean, it's the key to defeating the Gou'ould, you'd think they'd give it top priority =/

Originally posted by CounslerCoffee
Those are the worst two episodes of SG1 that I have ever watched, and its not the new season, they went on hiatus for a while. So what your seeing is the end of Season 8 or 7?

LOL I’m not just talking about those two episodes. I'm talking about the whole season six. Season five was pretty good also so I'm still staying with stargate. :)

I just watched pt 2 of Prometheus (downloaded off KaZaA =D ) and I thought it was a pretty good episode. I really want to see pt3 because supposedly the Asguard homeworld has been overrun by replicators, maybe I can find it on kazaa too. I wish they aired SciFi channel here in Canada :(