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Cortex_Colossus
09-08-07, 08:08 PM
I am understanding that I know nothing. There is such a thing as arrogance and it can be invisible to you. Internet communication is replacing human communication. I feel that the true way to welcome someone in life is to make personal contact. This way the sense of inter-personal understanding is better grasped. The congregation of humanity is unmistakable. Humanity is not sold in a box.

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On regular occasion one might be inclined to interpret this as a binary function. But its really gibberish. But I ask "what is gibberish if not the random processing of reality. Who are we to say that the gibberish is in fact more "real" than what we call "sense"?

sisyphus__
09-08-07, 08:17 PM
Better posting, for sure. We can hope people ..

The first paragraph.

Good thought, maybe.
Don't get carried away.
I don't really know you, but don't get carried away.


Carry on

Yonescoh
09-08-07, 08:52 PM
I am understanding that I know nothing.
You know something. You know how to speak english.

There is such a thing as arrogance and it can be invisible to you. Internet communication is replacing human communication.
I'm not sure how that follows... but ok. I agree internet communication is replcaing human communication. However, one can also argue that it is expanding human communication thanks to the internet. For the first time we can talk with someone in china, india and france all at the same time, without travelling. Do you see the benefits?

I feel that the true way to welcome someone in life is to make personal contact. This way the sense of inter-personal understanding is better grasped.
Absolutely.

On regular occasion one might be inclined to interpret this as a binary function. But its really gibberish. But I ask "what is gibberish if not the random processing of reality.
It looks gibberish but is it really? Binary codes are not random regardless of how random they appear.

Who are we to say that the gibberish is in fact more "real" than what we call "sense"?
Now that's a completely different subject.

sisyphus__
09-08-07, 09:00 PM
Do not 'slander his words' , lord of absurd.

He is actually asking specific things, I feel.

Cortex_Colossus
09-08-07, 10:03 PM
You know something. You know how to speak english.

English is nothing. It is not real so it is not sufficient.

Yorda
09-08-07, 10:32 PM
I am understanding that I know nothing.

well, at least you know something.

On regular occasion one might be inclined to interpret this as a binary function. But its really gibberish. But I ask "what is gibberish if not the random processing of reality. Who are we to say that the gibberish is in fact more "real" than what we call "sense"?

language is "gibberish". it is random combinations of symbols (or sounds) which are linked to things in reality.

reality is static/noise/nothing, which the mind filters/focuses into anything. there is only light, which the mind separates into infinite colors and things.

Cortex_Colossus
09-08-07, 10:47 PM
well, at least you know something.


Nothing is not something.

0 does not = 1.

Ripley
09-09-07, 01:09 AM
well, at least you know something.Lol. I was just thinking that… I know, I know… Lol.

Yorda
09-09-07, 09:05 AM
Nothing is not something.

it has to be because you're talking about it, and everything that exists in the universe is something.

the funny thing is that something can't be anything but nothing because everything in the universe is something... and you can never know what that something is because everything you will ever find will be something, so you might as well say that it is nothing, because that's the only thing it can be.

0 does not = 1.

1/infinity=0, therefore 0/infinity=1.

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Oli
09-09-07, 11:09 AM
1/infinity=0, therefore 0/infinity=1.
No:
Take the following rules:

1. Infinity divided by a finite number is infinite (I / f = I);
2. Any finite number divided by infinity is a number infinitesimally larger than, but never equal to, zero (f / I = 1 / I);
3. Infinity divided by infinity is one (I / I = 1),
or in fact any other positive number (I / I = and so on...);
4. Infinity multiplied by zero (no infinity) is zero (I * 0 = 0);
5. Infinity divided by a positive finite number is infinity (I / +f = I);
6. Infinity divided by a negative finite number is minus infinity (I / -f = -I);
7. Infinity divided by zero is not possible;
8. Infinity plus infinity is infinity (I + I = I);
9. Zero divided by infinity (nothing divided into infinity) equals zero (0 / I = 0);
10. Infinity plus a finite number is infinity (I + f = I);
11. Infinity minus a finite number is infinity (I - f = I); but
12. Infinity minus infinity, due to the nature of infinity, can be zero, infinity, or minus infinity (I - I = -I, 0, I).
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Cortex_Colossus
09-09-07, 01:22 PM
Knowledge is a burden if you don't have heart.

Oli
09-09-07, 01:31 PM
English is nothing. It is not real so it is not sufficient.

Really?
How else are you going to pass on/exchange ideas without language?

Cortex_Colossus
09-09-07, 02:00 PM
Really?
How else are you going to pass on/exchange ideas without language?

We are a language. Reality itself is nothing more than a language. So I say that english is a meager language for the purpose of serving an inferior form of infocognition (information via cognition is what i interpret this as).

My "english is nothing is wrong. It is sufficient for most brains. Without information nothing would matter. Knowledge is acquired information."

The grammar of reality is far more powerful than the dull rules of english. Though complicated, the patterns are random because it is a creation of man.

All appearances are low order languages of the universal language that governs every process that takes place in existence. If it takes place outside of existence, it is not real. Therefore, existence must exist, as opposed to not existing, in order to be real.

Consider love, does this have character and content? It is a process that behaves rather strangely and makes us do strange things. But it only gives life, as opposed to existence, any matter. Our own biological processes depend upon this feeling, otherwise life becomes a puzzling case to decipher trust, care and other survival necessities from fatal ones.

Yorda
09-09-07, 07:43 PM
sup niggaz,

2. Any finite number divided by infinity is a number infinitesimally larger than, but never equal to, zero (f / I = 1 / I);

that's wrong because 0.999...=1

3. Infinity divided by infinity is one (I / I = 1),
or in fact any other positive number (I / I = and so on...);

due to the nature of infinity, it could be anything from infinity to zero.

6. Infinity divided by a negative finite number is minus infinity (I / -f = -I);

negative infinity number?

7. Infinity divided by zero is not possible;

why nut? of course it's possible, but it equals infinity. if you divide 5 by zero it equals 5. if you divide a cake in 0 it equals one cake.

9. Zero divided by infinity (nothing divided into infinity) equals zero (0 / I = 0);

zero and infinity are almost the same thing. when nothing existed, there was infinity which divided the zero into "the one" (consciousness) which created/dreamed everything.

12. Infinity minus infinity, due to the nature of infinity, can be zero, infinity, or minus infinity (I - I = -I, 0, I).

you can say that a circle has zero sides, infinite sides or one curved side. circles and spheres are expanded zeroes, singularities.

Yonescoh
09-10-07, 10:40 AM
Math is absurd.

Cortex_Colossus
09-10-07, 11:11 AM
Reality is absurd. But it cannot be "all reality", only one of the "realities", yet there is only one reality. The only thing I can know is that I am. If I think I am then I would not know. If I think, I am not, yet I am. So what must be actually thinking is my nervous system and my subconscious. But it is the only part of us that can truly know anything.

Jeff 152
09-17-07, 05:28 PM
umm, zero divided by anything is zero, including zero divided by infinity.

anything divided by zero(except zero) is infinity

anything divided by infinty is 0

and you must remember that some infinities are larger or smaller than others, and in fact some infinities are infinitely larger than other infinities.

cosmictraveler
09-17-07, 05:30 PM
Math is absurd.

Mathematics is made of 50 percent formulas, 50 percent proofs, and 50 percent imagination.


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"A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems" (P. Erdos)
Addendum: American coffee is good for lemmas.


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An engineer thinks that his equations are an approximation to reality. A physicist thinks reality is an approximation to his equations. A mathematician doesn't care.


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Old mathematicians never die; they just lose some of their functions.


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Mathematicians are like Frenchmen: whatever you say to them, they translate it into their own language, and forthwith it means something entirely different. -- Goethe


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Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things. -- J. H. Poincare


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What is a rigorous definition of rigor?


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There is no logical foundation of mathematics, and Gödel has proved it!


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I do not think -- therefore I am not.

Here is the illustration of this principle:
One evening Rene Descartes went to relax at a local tavern. The tender approached and said, "Ah, good evening Monsieur Descartes! Shall I serve you the usual drink?". Descartes replied, "I think not.", and promptly vanished.


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A topologist is a person who doesn't know the difference between a coffee cup and a doughnut.


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A mathematician is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat which isn't there. (Charles R Darwin)


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A statistician is someone who is good with numbers but lacks the personality to be an accountant.


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Classification of mathematical problems as linear and nonlinear is like classification of the Universe as bananas and non-bananas.


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A law of conservation of difficulties: there is no easy way to prove a deep result.


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A tragedy of mathematics is a beautiful conjecture ruined by an ugly fact.


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Algebraic symbols are used when you do not know what you are talking about.


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Philosophy is a game with objectives and no rules.
Mathematics is a game with rules and no objectives.

EmptyForceOfChi
09-17-07, 07:59 PM
Nothing is not something.

0 does not = 1.



firstly nothing doesent exist, so whatever you do know it is something. in your original post you stated that you know something :).

you realised you know nothing, so you know that you know nothing, also you know that the universe exists, you know the earth exists, you know everything that you know.


but what we know of the universe might be disstorted by our limited senses, but you can rest assure that we do know things. i know you started this thread and so do you.


but if i stopped being an asshole i would say i know what you mean.


peace.