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BarbieGirl14
04-02-08, 09:49 AM
Ok this thrrad kinda talks about s*x so sorry don't read it if it if y don't like that kinda stuff.

So my friends were like talking about how i'm a virgin. They were basicly saying how great it is and how they feel sorry for me that I don't do that...

But I feel that I want to do it with a boy I love.. Not just a boy thats cute.

They argue that most girls want it more than boys, which like ya I think about it a little but I don't act on it because I have self control.

This is the argument I made... There is two different views on s*x. One is omg I'm so h**ny, and I want to feel good. Then there is the I love him so much, and I want to be closer.

I said that testosterone coincides with the 1st, while estrogen with the End. So my argument is that maby I just don't have alot of testosterone, so I don't feel that. While some girls may have more and get like that. Boys always have testosterone, so thats why they think that way.

In conclusion, I think that I just have less testosterone so I don't really have the big desire to do it unless I was inlove.. So its not abnormal for me, it's just normal.

So low testosterone high estrogen = s*x to feel closer
and high testosterone low estrogen = s*x for pleasure and lust

What do you think??

draqon
04-02-08, 09:53 AM
I think you shouldn't worry about it. Just look at me, I am a guy at age 21 and I never had sex. Am I horney? big time every day. Do I want sex? Yeah. But I am just not lucky to find a girl to fall in love, I realize now that to fall in love you need to come closer to the person yourself and initiate that love...it will not just come to you. You got to work for it. So yeah...and you are 14 which is like for a girl to be thinking about sex with love is like totally soon, of course you can create an illusion within you that you love someone...but than thats why there are so many divorces in USA, they all create that illusion and that it breaks.

thedevilsreject
04-02-08, 09:53 AM
i think you need new friends

draqon
04-02-08, 09:54 AM
friends

virgin friends, I presume? :rolleyes:

15ofthe19
04-02-08, 10:05 AM
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/kahne8198/ChrisHanson.jpg

Absane
04-02-08, 10:08 AM
This whole generation is a joke. You know what, if you guys want to nail girls in a spur of the moment, go right ahead. See how far it gets you. Sorry for having morals, and not being an animal. Seems to be the going rate around here. Have funs with your kids, and STD's. But to tell ya' the truth, I doubt any of you are getting laid in the first place. Why? Because a guy who actually does get laid, doesn't have to kiss and tell. Least off all, on the INTERNET! You guys really need to get lives. I can't believe I've even contributed to this garbage. I must be in need of a life of my own, just on the basis of sharing my thoughts with you morons. Have fun bragging to each other about how many sluts in you banged in under 2 minutes. I'm sure it is a great experience for all of you.Look I don't care what you do. Go ahead, bang away at those skeezers. Myself, I don't think it is a good idea to do so. How well could you possibly know a girl after 2 hours? Enough to sleep with her? This is the point I'm trying to get across. What these people seem to not understand is, is that you are sharing your body with someone when you have sex. Plenty of bad things could happen when you do this. How much thought could you possibly give this in what, 2 hours? Oh, and Bruno, I'm quite capable of speaking on my own behalf. I appreciate the help, but I'm not in any real need of it, so thanks, but no thanks. So as of Jul 17, 2006 do what ya' want. You wanna bang sluts after 10 minutes, go right ahead. When you wake up the next morning pissing out razorblades, just remember I told ya' so.

thedevilsreject
04-02-08, 10:20 AM
virgin friends, I presume? :rolleyes:

see absanes post for what i am talking about. I despise 90% of the people who are my age

domesticated om
04-02-08, 12:57 PM
They argue that most girls want it more than boys, which like ya I think about it a little but I don't act on it because I have self control.

This is the argument I made... There is two different views on s*x. One is omg I'm so h**ny, and I want to feel good. Then there is the I love him so much, and I want to be closer.

I said that testosterone coincides with the 1st, while estrogen with the End. So my argument is that maby I just don't have alot of testosterone, so I don't feel that. While some girls may have more and get like that. Boys always have testosterone, so thats why they think that way.

In conclusion, I think that I just have less testosterone so I don't really have the big desire to do it unless I was inlove.. So its not abnormal for me, it's just normal.

So low testosterone high estrogen = s*x to feel closer
and high testosterone low estrogen = s*x for pleasure and lust

What do you think??

This is actually an interesting question --- although you're making a bit of a leap with your correlations related to "psychological attachment" as applied to yourself (estrogen = closeness; testosterone = lust).
Those things certainly relate with the stereotypical "male" strategy vs the typical "female", but I would question whether it was due to the presence of hormones, or social influences. Who's to say that a person with high testosterone wouldn't associate "feeling closer" with "sex"?

Exhumed
04-02-08, 01:06 PM
and high testosterone low estrogen = s*x for pleasure and lust


No idea, but all guys seem to be equally horny despite having a vast variety of testosterone levels.

CutsieMarie89
04-02-08, 01:53 PM
I believe estrogen= growth. Thats why girls start puberty sooner than boys do. Estrogen levels increase when an ovum is growing. Oxytocin is the "closeness" hormone apparently. And men have more of this hormone after a sexual encounter while women generally have higher levels all of the time.

Enmos
04-02-08, 02:03 PM
see absanes post for what i am talking about. I despise 90% of the people who are my age

When you grow up you'll realize that you despise 90% of all people period. With good reason I might add..

shichimenshyo
04-02-08, 02:04 PM
I think you shouldn't worry about it. Just look at me, I am a guy at age 21 and I never had sex. Am I horney? big time every day. Do I want sex? Yeah. But I am just not lucky to find a girl to fall in love, I realize now that to fall in love you need to come closer to the person yourself and initiate that love...it will not just come to you. You got to work for it. So yeah...and you are 14 which is like for a girl to be thinking about sex with love is like totally soon, of course you can create an illusion within you that you love someone...but than thats why there are so many divorces in USA, they all create that illusion and that it breaks.

I think you need a prostitute:D

Enmos
04-02-08, 02:05 PM
I think you need a prostitute:D

I think he needs a career change, if you know what I mean ;)

shichimenshyo
04-02-08, 02:06 PM
I think he needs a career change, if you know what I mean ;)

..ohhh I get it ;)

skaught
04-02-08, 02:07 PM
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/kahne8198/ChrisHanson.jpg

I love it :) hahaha. Anybody who cant see it is a sorry SOB.

Enmos
04-02-08, 02:07 PM
I love it :) hahaha. Anybody who cant see it is a sorry SOB.

I see it fine. It's a picture of a guy.. :shrug:

shichimenshyo
04-02-08, 02:10 PM
I see it fine. It's a picture of a guy.. :shrug:

If you look real close you can see his AIDS.

skaught
04-02-08, 02:11 PM
Ok this thrrad kinda talks about s*x so sorry don't read it if it if y don't like that kinda stuff.

So my friends were like talking about how i'm a virgin. They were basicly saying how great it is and how they feel sorry for me that I don't do that...

But I feel that I want to do it with a boy I love.. Not just a boy thats cute.

They argue that most girls want it more than boys, which like ya I think about it a little but I don't act on it because I have self control.

This is the argument I made... There is two different views on s*x. One is omg I'm so h**ny, and I want to feel good. Then there is the I love him so much, and I want to be closer.

I said that testosterone coincides with the 1st, while estrogen with the End. So my argument is that maby I just don't have alot of testosterone, so I don't feel that. While some girls may have more and get like that. Boys always have testosterone, so thats why they think that way.

In conclusion, I think that I just have less testosterone so I don't really have the big desire to do it unless I was inlove.. So its not abnormal for me, it's just normal.

So low testosterone high estrogen = s*x to feel closer
and high testosterone low estrogen = s*x for pleasure and lust

What do you think??

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=79314

Please lady, this is a forum where people are trying to have logical, educated reasonable discussions about life, science, philosophy etc. please stop wasting space by trying to bait people. while I agree that pedophiles should be lined up and executed, what you are pathetically trying to do should also be considered a crime. this site is for people who are trying to engage each other in intellectual discussions. This isn't a place for pigs to come and entrap people. Please take your self and leave and go back to aol chat rooms, myspace or ICQ... nice try though :) Best of luck in the future :)

shichimenshyo
04-02-08, 02:13 PM
I think we should all invite barbie to our sex parties.

Enmos
04-02-08, 02:16 PM
If you look real close you can see his AIDS.

You mean his contact lenses ?

shichimenshyo
04-02-08, 02:17 PM
You mean his contact lenses ?

.....perhaps:cool:

Absane
04-02-08, 03:16 PM
Let me be serious for a bit. yes, I know I have been posting shit lately... and I have my reasons.

BUT I do know a few things about the effects of high testosterone levels. When I leave the gym everyday, I feel very masculine. I feel like I want to punch people in the face and treat sluts the way they deserve to be treated: like a toy that is to be thrown away after it's used. It feels as if nothing can stop me.

If I stop eating healthy and I don't go to the gym, I feel weak and vulnerable. I'm easily annoyed, intimidated, and embarrassed.

There's nothing else in this world like going to the gym and eating broccoli.

Orleander
04-02-08, 03:18 PM
....treat sluts the way they deserve to be treated: like a toy that is to be thrown away after it's used. .....

:bugeye: aren't you lonely?

Absane
04-02-08, 03:19 PM
:bugeye: aren't you lonely?

Not when they are unconscious.

Seriously... no, I am not.

Enmos
04-02-08, 03:23 PM
yes, I know I have been posting shit lately... and I have my reasons.

What are you talking about ? That other thread was hilarious ! :D

Exhumed
04-02-08, 03:33 PM
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=79314

Please lady, this is a forum where people are trying to have logical, educated reasonable discussions about life, science, philosophy etc. please stop wasting space by trying to bait people.

lol. Since when? The thread is fine.


while I agree that pedophiles should be lined up and executed, what you are pathetically trying to do should also be considered a crime.

Er, that's a little psychotic.


this site is for people who are trying to engage each other in intellectual discussions. This isn't a place for pigs to come and entrap people. Please take your self and leave and go back to aol chat rooms, myspace or ICQ... nice try though :) Best of luck in the future :)

This is off topic. If you want "intellectual discussions" staying on topic is a start.

nirakar
04-02-08, 03:40 PM
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=79314

Please lady, this is a forum where people are trying to have logical, educated reasonable discussions about life, science, philosophy etc. please stop wasting space by trying to bait people. while I agree that pedophiles should be lined up and executed, what you are pathetically trying to do should also be considered a crime. this site is for people who are trying to engage each other in intellectual discussions. This isn't a place for pigs to come and entrap people. Please take your self and leave and go back to aol chat rooms, myspace or ICQ... nice try though :) Best of luck in the future :)

1st I think you misread barbiegirl14, she is not a cop. I find her believable; don't insult our little sisters just because you want to fuck them. 2nd, she had an intellectual question that nobody answered because science does not have an accurate answer yet. What differences in the attitude towards sex are caused by having more estrogen and less testosterone? 3rd this is free thoughts, not exactly a great scientific forum.

nirakar
04-02-08, 03:46 PM
No idea, but all guys seem to be equally horny despite having a vast variety of testosterone levels.

I think guys come in three forms, horny, hornier, and horniest.

shichimenshyo
04-02-08, 03:49 PM
I think guys come in three forms, horny, hornier, and horniest.

....hmmm I think the vast majority come in the third form. :D

skaught
04-02-08, 03:49 PM
1st I think you misread barbiegirl14, she is not a cop. I find her believable; don't insult our little sisters just because you want to fuck them. 2nd, she had an intellectual question that nobody answered because science does not have an accurate answer yet. What differences in the attitude towards sex are caused by having more estrogen and less testosterone? 3rd this is free thoughts, not exactly a great scientific forum.

Obviously you want to fuck her since you are so insistant on standing up for her. If shes believable and intelligent like you claim, then she should be able to speak for herself 'eh? But yes, big brother nirakar can be the hero and come to the rescue for poor helpless and vulnerable Barbie no?

shichimenshyo
04-02-08, 03:52 PM
This arguing is making me horny.

BarbieGirl14
04-02-08, 03:53 PM
@ skaught... Can't you just try and forget my age. That way you could treat me like a person. =P

I'm not big on criminal justice or psycology or anything, but if I were a cop... and I was trying to get pedophiles in trouble, I wouldn't be on a science forum where everyone is smart and ummm... unignorant.

Personally i'd go to like a chat site... give them my adress, and arrest them when they come to my home.

But.. I guess you can say.. "what the mind can conceive is posible untill proven wrong." So I may be a cop. I may feel that science people will be old, and therefore easy to target or something.. If this were the case; all you have to do is stay professional.


But... If you can conceive im a cop... then I can conceive that you secretly want me. You know its wrong and your frustrated. You don't want to risk being polite to me because your paranoid you will be discovered. So you act mean toward me to prove your not what you actually are.

But both are probly not true right?

Sorry for the drama.... I just thought it needed to be said due to his relentless cruel attention that he seems to give my posts.

shichimenshyo
04-02-08, 03:58 PM
@ skaught... Can't you just try and forget my age. That way you could treat me like a person. =P

I'm not big on criminal justice or psycology or anything, but if I were a cop... and I was trying to get pedophiles in trouble, I wouldn't be on a science forum where everyone is smart and ummm... unignorant.

Personally i'd go to like a chat site... give them my adress, and arrest them when they come to my home.

But.. I guess you can say.. "what the mind can conceive is posible untill proven wrong." So I may be a cop. I may feel that science people will be old, and therefore easy to target or something.. If this were the case; all you have to do is stay professional.


But... If you can conceive im a cop... then I can conceive that you secretly want me. You know its wrong and your frustrated. You don't want to risk being polite to me because your paranoid you will be discovered. So you act mean toward me to prove your not what you actually are.

But both are probly not true right?

Sorry for the drama.... I just thought it needed to be said due to his relentless cruel attention that he seems to give my posts.

Your posts have come into question by a varity of posters here both male and female. Its just strange that someone of your supposed age would be a member of several gaming and science forums sites while making it very clear in all of them that you are underage and in "boarding school", but all the while being inconsistent in tha ages that you claim to be. Also I find it strange that somone who posts equations trelating to relativity has troubles spelling and presenting themself in a scientific manner. :shrug:

skaught
04-02-08, 04:10 PM
@ skaught... Can't you just try and forget my age. That way you could treat me like a person. =P

I'm not big on criminal justice or psycology or anything, but if I were a cop... and I was trying to get pedophiles in trouble, I wouldn't be on a science forum where everyone is smart and ummm... unignorant.

Personally i'd go to like a chat site... give them my adress, and arrest them when they come to my home.

But.. I guess you can say.. "what the mind can conceive is posible untill proven wrong." So I may be a cop. I may feel that science people will be old, and therefore easy to target or something.. If this were the case; all you have to do is stay professional.


But... If you can conceive im a cop... then I can conceive that you secretly want me. You know its wrong and your frustrated. You don't want to risk being polite to me because your paranoid you will be discovered. So you act mean toward me to prove your not what you actually are.

But both are probly not true right?

Sorry for the drama.... I just thought it needed to be said due to his relentless cruel attention that he seems to give my posts.

I find it hard to believe that a 14 year old girl would be intelligent enough to conceive of something like this. Oh yeah and wow, all the sudden here is a post from you that isn’t full of you saying things were every other word is "umm... like" and there’s virtually no misspellings!!!
Sounds like you know your psychology pretty well too! Oh and!!! You sure seem to noticed my "relentless cruel attention". I don’t pay enough attention to people who say something nasty to me on my posts/threads. at least not enough to remember their name.
Look, its nothing personal. If you really are a 14 year old girl, great, good for you! Your very smart and well educated for you age and I'm impressed by your thirst for knowledge. But if you aren’t what you say you are, then you are a liar, and two wrongs (lying to catch a criminal) don’t make a right. If you are a cop who catches pedophiles, then I love what you are doing. I just don’t agree with the way you are doing it.
Do I now make sense to people? Or do you all still think I'm a closeted pedophilic asshole?

skaught
04-02-08, 04:11 PM
Your posts have come into question by a varity of posters here both male and female. Its just strange that someone of your supposed age would be a member of several gaming and science forums sites while making it very clear in all of them that you are underage and in "boarding school", but all the while being inconsistent in tha ages that you claim to be. Also I find it strange that somone who posts equations trelating to relativity has troubles spelling and presenting themself in a scientific manner. :shrug:

Thank you! This is exactly what I mean!

Exhumed
04-02-08, 04:44 PM
Obviously you want to fuck her since you are so insistant on standing up for her. If shes believable and intelligent like you claim, then she should be able to speak for herself 'eh? But yes, big brother nirakar can be the hero and come to the rescue for poor helpless and vulnerable Barbie no?

lol. You're reaching... again.

Exhumed
04-02-08, 04:46 PM
Sorry for the drama.... I just thought it needed to be said due to his relentless cruel attention that he seems to give my posts.

Don't worry. It happens sometimes on sciforums.

Remember about the ignore feature if people start to bother you.

skaught
04-02-08, 05:41 PM
Don't worry. It happens sometimes on sciforums.

Remember about the ignore feature if people start to bother you.

Oh I'm glad you reminded me so I can add you to my ignore list. I think your just mad cause Im not paying attention to you!

shichimenshyo
04-02-08, 05:45 PM
Oh I'm glad you reminded me so I can add you to my ignore list. I think your just mad cause Im not paying attention to you!

Hey now exhumed is cool, if you ignore everyone who is critical of you here your gonna have basically the whole community on ignore within a week. :D

Exhumed
04-02-08, 05:45 PM
I'm mad? There you go again, using your psychic powers. ;) (I assume that is how you found out that I'm mad, that nirakar is trying to play the hero, etc)

I'd prefer if you don't assume the worst and go with it.

skaught
04-02-08, 06:01 PM
I'm mad? There you go again, using your psychic powers. ;) (I assume that is how you found out that I'm mad, that nirakar is trying to play the hero, and BarbieGirl is a cop)

I'd prefer if you don't assume the worst and go with it.

Hey, you started it! I was never even talking to you in tyhe first place and you started all...

lol. Since when? The thread is fine.




Er, that's a little psychotic.



This is off topic. If you want "intellectual discussions" staying on topic is a start.

and...

lol. You're reaching... again.

AND...

Don't worry. It happens sometimes on sciforums.

Remember about the ignore feature if people start to bother you.

So yeah, I think you're a little fixated on me cupcake!

BarbieGirl14
04-02-08, 06:03 PM
To the boy who did the investigating, and found all the forums I'v been on. I'm impressed. On the contrary, i'm disapointed that your information you give is so negative. You should know almost all my information I give is consistent. Also I spell well here because it's an educational forum, and I'v been yelled at alot for txt talk. Thank you for the compliment about me being smart and though =D

Lets solve it this way. You can pretend i'm whatever age you want me to be. You can also pretend im a cop. This way you will all treat me like a smart mature human being rather then a little girl. So everyone wins. =D

I don't want anyone mad at me, and I really dont want drama so lets please end this here.

TY for reading =D

Michael
04-02-08, 06:06 PM
Two points

1) to Barbie - do wait until University and hang out with someone you like and then make up your mind.

2) I don't get the picture? AIDS? I don't see anything?

skaught
04-02-08, 06:09 PM
To the boy who did the investigating, and found all the forums I'v been on. I'm impressed. On the contrary, i'm disapointed that your information you give is so negative. You should know almost all my information I give is consistent. Also I spell well here because it's an educational forum, and I'v been yelled at alot for txt talk. Thank you for the compliment about me being smart and though =D

Lets solve it this way. You can pretend i'm whatever age you want me to be. You can also pretend im a cop. This way you will all treat me like a smart mature human being rather then a little girl. So everyone wins. =D

I don't want anyone mad at me, and I really dont want drama so lets please end this here.

TY for reading =D

Just in the way you addressed and worded your last two posts has already made my respect and admiration for you grow significantly! If it truly bothers you how I have treated you, then I humbly apologize. I respect the way you handle conflict! Like I think I said earlier, if you are a 14 year old girl, I think highly of you. If you're a cop, I disaprove what your doing. Don't think I'm not going to continue to razz you, just dont take it so personal. Go check on a new thread I just started.

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=79350

Tell me your thoughts on it! it applies to what we're talking about here, and I am truly curious to hear your position on it. Oh and Exhumed is not invited!

shichimenshyo
04-02-08, 06:13 PM
To the boy who did the investigating, and found all the forums I'v been on. I'm impressed. On the contrary, i'm disapointed that your information you give is so negative. You should know almost all my information I give is consistent. Also I spell well here because it's an educational forum, and I'v been yelled at alot for txt talk. Thank you for the compliment about me being smart and though =D

Lets solve it this way. You can pretend i'm whatever age you want me to be. You can also pretend im a cop. This way you will all treat me like a smart mature human being rather then a little girl. So everyone wins. =D

I don't want anyone mad at me, and I really dont want drama so lets please end this here.

TY for reading =D

What about your sexually explicit posts on adult forums?

Im sure you never informed any of theose who frequent that type of venue of your age, or did you?

Implying that you might be a fan of incest...come on its obvious that you are trying to bait a very specific type of character, and its not welcomed here.

Exhumed
04-02-08, 06:16 PM
What about your sexually explicit posts on adult forums?

Im sure you never informed any of theose who frequent that type of venue of your age, or did you?


You forgot to read this part :p


Lets solve it this way. You can pretend i'm whatever age you want me to be. You can also pretend im a cop. This way you will all treat me like a smart mature human being rather then a little girl. So everyone wins. =D

I don't want anyone mad at me, and I really dont want drama so lets please end this here.

Oh, and I think if you're asking questions you ought to first answer about that particular avatar on those same forums ;)

shichimenshyo
04-02-08, 06:19 PM
You forgot to read this part :p



Oh, and I think if you're asking questions you ought to first answer about that particular avatar on those same forums ;)



What? :eek:

Exhumed
04-02-08, 06:25 PM
What? :eek:

http://www.sexstoriespost.com/forums/customavatars/avatar14907_32.gif

That is the avatar in question (from those forums).

It looks familiar...

domesticated om
04-02-08, 06:25 PM
I dunno why everybody is going through all the trouble of attempting to "debunk" the OP as some sort of pedo-investigator. It doesn't really matter who she is. She may very well be a police person, or an old man or an actual 14 year old girl (that's where I'm putting my money actually LOL).
This discussion should objectively explore the proposed topic.

I believe estrogen= growth. Thats why girls start puberty sooner than boys do. Estrogen levels increase when an ovum is growing. Oxytocin is the "closeness" hormone apparently. And men have more of this hormone after a sexual encounter while women generally have higher levels all of the time.

That's an interesting bit of information. After reading the wiki on this, it seems like a much closer correlation to what she was referring to.

shichimenshyo
04-02-08, 06:26 PM
http://www.sexstoriespost.com/forums/customavatars/avatar14907_32.gif

That is the avatar in question (from those forums).

It looks familiar...

lol I had an av like that, but I wasnt the one who found it :D

shorty_37
04-02-08, 06:27 PM
http://www.sexstoriespost.com/forums/customavatars/avatar14907_32.gif

That is the avatar in question (from those forums).

It looks familiar...

Minus the bones or whatever!!! And I found that Avatar for Shich when we were having an Avatar contest here a while back!!

Enmos
04-02-08, 06:28 PM
Minus the bones or whatever!!! And I found that Avatar for Shich when we were having an Avatar contest here a while back!!

lol You naughty girl ! :p

shichimenshyo
04-02-08, 06:29 PM
Minus the bones or whatever!!! And I found that Avatar for Shich when we were having an Avatar contest here a while back!!

Now where did you find it :D

Exhumed
04-02-08, 06:29 PM
Now we know where from...

shorty_37
04-02-08, 06:29 PM
lol You naughty girl ! :p

Yeah whatever..........if I found that for Shi anybody can find it and use it!

This is turning into CSI or something lol

shorty_37
04-02-08, 06:30 PM
Now where did you find it :D

Shit I don't remember, some avatar site!

Enmos
04-02-08, 06:30 PM
Yeah whatever..........if I found that for Shi anybody can find it and use it!

This is turning into CSI or something lol

Aint it awesome ? :cool:

shichimenshyo
04-02-08, 06:40 PM
Aint it awesome ? :cool:

I actually think it is.

Syzygys
04-02-08, 06:49 PM
I actually think it is.

Ditto... ;)

Seriously, I like to understand people...Not that I really care.

draqon
04-02-08, 07:41 PM
....BarbieGirl is a cop...


:eek: I always thought about it, yes I can see government agent working on here to make it seem like she is small innocent girl when they crack you down if you agree.

Michael
04-02-08, 07:42 PM
Hey hello??? I didn't get the picture.... I mean of the guy

draqon
04-02-08, 07:44 PM
Hey hello??? I didn't get the picture.... I mean of the guy

nothing to see, just some british dude in a business suit smiling like he is inviting small innocent girl to sit on his lap.

Exhumed
04-02-08, 08:13 PM
I liked to make up quotes

That's nice. :)

Exhumed, I'd go gay for you

I'll keep that in mind...

draqon
04-02-08, 08:14 PM
That's nice. :)



I'll keep that in mind...

:mad: I never said that :eek:

Exhumed
04-02-08, 08:18 PM
:mad: I never said that :eek:

There must be a bug in the sciforums system. Would you believe the same thing happened to me in this post? http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1804833&postcount=60

skaught
04-02-08, 08:18 PM
:mad: I never said that :eek:

Yeah Dragon, leave it up to Exhumed to fabricate something. Dont worry, we all know Exhumed is a great big phoney!

skaught
04-02-08, 08:19 PM
There must be a bug in the sciforums system. Would you believe the same thing happened to me in this post? http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1804833&postcount=60

HAHHA!!! Gotta hand it to you Exhumed!!! Funny...

draqon
04-02-08, 08:19 PM
There must be a bug in the sciforums system. Would you believe the same thing happened to me in this post? http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1804833&postcount=60

yeah must be a bug in the system....weird :rolleyes:

draqon
04-02-08, 08:21 PM
There must be a bug in the sciforums system. Would you believe the same thing happened to me in this post? http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1804833&postcount=60

umm Exhumed...post #40

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=79331&page=2

skaught
04-02-08, 08:21 PM
yeah must be a bug in the system....weird :rolleyes:

Still love you though dragon:)

Exhumed
04-02-08, 08:24 PM
umm Exhumed...post #40

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=79331&page=2

:confused:

draqon
04-02-08, 08:25 PM
:confused:

Last edited by Exhumed : Today at 09:23 PM.

:cool: you are down, you are down right, nothing goes unseen. :cool:

15ofthe19
04-02-08, 08:27 PM
I spend all day craving a cock in my mouth.

Dude, you need to keep that sort of thing on the DL.

draqon
04-02-08, 08:28 PM
Dude, you need to keep that sort of thing on the DL.

a joke is funny for a set period of time, after which it becomes LAME.

skaught
04-02-08, 08:28 PM
Last edited by Exhumed : Today at 09:23 PM.

:cool: you are down, you are down right, nothing goes unseen. :cool:

OH MY GOD!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE SHE DID THIS! I JUST READ HER POST LIKE A MINUTE BEFORE THIS HAPPENED!!! Wow! Why dont you just go work for Big Brother you GD phoney!

draqon
04-02-08, 08:29 PM
OH MY GOD!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE SHE DID THIS! I JUST READ HER POST LIKE A MINUTE BEFORE THIS HAPPENED!!! Wow! Why dont you just go work for Big Brother you GD phoney!

chill man, its all cool. :p

skaught
04-02-08, 08:31 PM
chill man, its all cool. :p

Yes, you are right. We know what is true right bro!

shorty_37
04-02-08, 08:36 PM
WTF is going on here????? Exhumed is editing your quotes?

mrow
04-02-08, 08:38 PM
draqon, you're 21?

skaught
04-02-08, 08:38 PM
WTF is going on here????? Exhumed is editing your quotes?

Exhumed is re-writing history like the bastard Big Brother in 1984!

draqon
04-02-08, 08:40 PM
WTF is going on here?????

Here is a chronology of this thread

1. This thread was created
2. Posts were made...
3. I replied to a message made by Exhumed, the original message of Exhumed read that the 14 year old girl member here on sciforums is actually a cop
4. Exhumed forgot about what was written and made up a quote saying that I make up quotes
5. I reply to Exhumed that I do not make up quotes
6. Exhumed replies to me with a link showing my responses to his original "14 year old girl is a cop" thread
7. I reply to Exhumed by showing the post #40 written by Exhumed as a proof that such was indeed written
8. Exhumed realizes he had forgotten about this and the accusations made on me were false
9. Exhumed deletes the portion of the thread were it was stated that "14 year old is a cop" statements
10. I get compliments from members here on what has happened.
11. You come and question "WTF" here asking what is going on this thread
12. I post a reply to your "WTF" statement
13. I hit a reply button...

shorty_37
04-02-08, 08:41 PM
Editing quotes is against the rules, lets all report him and ban his ass for a few days :D

draqon
04-02-08, 08:43 PM
Editing quotes is against the rules, lets all report him and ban his ass for a few days :D

:p:p no

skaught
04-02-08, 08:43 PM
Here is a chronology of this thread

1. This thread was created
2. Posts were made...
3. I replied to a message made by Exhumed, the original message of Exhumed read that the 14 year old girl member here on sciforums is actually a cop
4. Exhumed forgot about what was written and made up a quote saying that I make up quotes
5. I reply to Exhumed that I do not make up quotes
6. Exhumed replies to me with a link showing my responses to his original "14 year old girl is a cop" thread
7. I reply to Exhumed by showing the post #40 written by Exhumed as a proof that such was indeed written
8. Exhumed realizes he had forgotten about this and the accusations made on me were false
9. Exhumed deletes the portion of the thread were it was stated that "14 year old is a cop" statements
10. I get compliments from members here on what has happened.
11. You come and question "WTF" here asking what is going on this thread
12. I post a reply to your "WTF" statement
13. I hit a reply button...


You angered me once, back when I first joined Sciforums dragon, but now I love you! You are the shit brother!

shorty_37
04-02-08, 08:44 PM
:p:p no

it's a girl? I always thought it was a guy with a girls pic from some autoshow :shrug:

nirakar
04-02-08, 08:46 PM
WTF is going on here????? Exhumed is editing your quotes?
Yes.
Dragon's post 60 had a bad edit of an Exhumed post. Don't know if Dragon realized that he changed the meaning of Exhumed's words. Then Exumed made up Dragon quotes.

draqon
04-02-08, 08:49 PM
Yes.
Dragon's post 60 had a bad edit of an Exhumed post. Don't know if Dragon realized that he changed the meaning of Exhumed's words.

:cool: I sure did...but I kept the part of the sentence in same pattern it was written

15ofthe19
04-02-08, 09:08 PM
Has anybody ever studied testosterone levels and frequency of masturbation, to see if there is a correlation? That would be interesting, because I'm not sure they are necessarily connected.

BarbieGirl14
04-02-08, 09:45 PM
Just delete this thread pls. Admins please from now on, when ever it comes to my threads, delete the whole thread or leave it alone. Also, if it's possible please don't post in my threads. Show off in another thread please.

I don't mean to be impolite, which I know I am. But I don't think you understand how rude you are acting. It took me time to write those and for you to delete them is extremely rude.

TY for reading =D

shorty_37
04-02-08, 09:49 PM
Ummmmmmmm speaking of rude ms Barbie. Have you noticed that some of the members here have told us about the other interesting sites you post on that don't have anything to do with science. The X-rated sites that a 14 yr old should be nowhere near, let alone posting on.

If I were you I would just disappear before it gets really ugly around here.

skaught
04-02-08, 09:50 PM
Ummmmmmmm speaking of rude ms Barbie. Have you noticed that some of the members here have told us about the other interesting sites you post on that don't have anything to do with science. The X-rated sites that a 14 yr old should be no where near, let alone posting on.

If I were you I would just disappear before it gets really ugly around here.

Im lost, what other sites is she on???

shorty_37
04-02-08, 09:51 PM
Did you read the other thread,

Should police officers posing as underage girls be banned?

That should explain it all.

BarbieGirl14
04-02-08, 10:01 PM
I do think that I have curiosity. Also I went on sexstoriespost.com only for questions my dad refused to answer. Its natural for anyone to have an interest in sex, and i'm not a exception... What I don't understand is why your so ... I can't think of the word... but you want me to leave.

It's rude of you to say things like that, that will make me look so horrible without asking for a explanation though.. I would never do something so impolite to you.....

Roman
04-02-08, 10:05 PM
Just delete this thread pls. Admins please from now on, when ever it comes to my threads, delete the whole thread or leave it alone. Also, if it's possible please don't post in my threads. Show off in another thread please.

I don't mean to be impolite, which I know I am. But I don't think you understand how rude you are acting. It took me time to write those and for you to delete them is extremely rude.

TY for reading =D

Well it's good to know you can type properly. I say we keep you, if you can drop the stupid little girl lolspeak charade.

You know what would be hilarious? You coaxing draqon or one of the other frustrated virgins on here into a cyber-session with you on chat, then "put on your wizard hat" and posting it all here for us to enjoy.

I mean, that's what I would do. If I was an eighth grade girl.

shorty_37
04-02-08, 10:06 PM
I do think that I have curiosity. Also I went on sexstoriespost.com only for questions my dad refused to answer. Its natural for anyone to have an interest in sex, and i'm not a exception... What I don't understand is why your so ... I can't think of the word... but you want me to leave.

It's rude of you to say things like that, that will make me look so horrible without asking for a explanation though.. I would never do something so impolite to you.....

Personally I don't give a shit. I didn't make a big stink about you being here in the first place. It seemed like everyone was talking about you all of a sudden . I don't even know how they found out all that shit about you, nor do I care.

It seems that most ppl here don't want you here. After they brought up that you belong to these sex sites if you are indeed 14 I can't say I blame them.

skaught
04-02-08, 10:08 PM
Did you read the other thread,

Should police officers posing as underage girls be banned?

That should explain it all.

Yeah I did read that post actually. Well, not the whole thing, but parts of it.

15ofthe19
04-02-08, 10:13 PM
I do think that I have curiosity. Also I went on sexstoriespost.com only for questions my dad refused to answer. Its natural for anyone to have an interest in sex, and i'm not a exception... What I don't understand is why your so ... I can't think of the word... but you want me to leave.

It's rude of you to say things like that, that will make me look so horrible without asking for a explanation though.. I would never do something so impolite to you.....

Just think about this for a second. You show up on this forum talking about being a teenage virgin, and wondering about being attracted to older guys.

On another forum, just a few weeks ago, you are wondering aloud if you're addicted to masturbating, and admit that the most intense orgasm you've ever had was while your "daddy" was in the room.

Now do you understand why some people might be a little creeped out by your posts?

BarbieGirl14
04-02-08, 10:22 PM
Ok..... I think this is just going to be alot of fighting or alot of me getting yelled at for not trying to pursuade you. I can see and understand why you guys don't like me so ya I wont post anymore.. thanks for teaching me about fire and all that... if anything at least i learned wood is C5 N11 O6 and how fire works lol... sorry for the drama btw lol nice meting yous buh byes

skaught
04-02-08, 10:27 PM
Just think about this for a second. You show up on this forum talking about being a teenage virgin, and wondering about being attracted to older guys.

On another forum, just a few weeks ago, you are wondering aloud if you're addicted to masturbating, and admit that the most intense orgasm you've ever had was while your "daddy" was in the room.

Now do you understand why some people might be a little creeped out by your posts?

Yes, this is just a little too good to be true. The problem is that everyone knows your tactics from all the coverage on tv. especially by that one guy, whats his name? where he busts the dudes and then interviews them before they are arrested??? Anyway yeah, This shit is just too obvious.

Kadark
04-02-08, 10:28 PM
Ok..... I think this is just going to be alot of fighting or alot of me getting yelled at for not trying to pursuade you. I can see and understand why you guys don't like me so ya I wont post anymore.. thanks for teaching me about fire and all that... if anything at least i learned wood is C5 N11 O6 and how fire works lol... sorry for the drama btw lol nice meting yous buh byes

Hey, are you an underage virgin? I'm a 26 year-old registered sex offender. Want to meet up and have a good time?

(Don't tell the cops about this - I could get in some deep shit.)

nirakar
04-02-08, 10:38 PM
I do think that I have curiosity. Also I went on sexstoriespost.com only for questions my dad refused to answer. Its natural for anyone to have an interest in sex, and i'm not a exception... What I don't understand is why your so ... I can't think of the word... but you want me to leave.

It's rude of you to say things like that, that will make me look so horrible without asking for a explanation though.. I would never do something so impolite to you.....

Your OK; all these people are stupid. Post anything you want and don't worry about all these people who are acting like they are younger and less mature than you are.

Kadark
04-02-08, 10:45 PM
Where'd you find the picture??? You're impressive!

I was just about to say the same thing. 15ofthe19 is quite the detective.

skaught
04-02-08, 10:46 PM
I was just about to say the same thing. 15ofthe19 is quite the detective.

I'll say!

15ofthe19
04-02-08, 10:47 PM
Where'd you find the picture??? You're impressive!

Sorry, can't divulge everything I do. But let's just say that I have access to certain resources that not everybody knows about, and leave it at that.

Couple that with the naivety of certain posters not to know how to be less predictable, and you're talking fish in a barrel man.

skaught
04-02-08, 10:52 PM
Aww... share the knowledge man! Be a brother!

Kadark
04-02-08, 10:54 PM
Aww... share the knowledge man! Be a brother!

Hey, a good detective never reveals his tricks.

skaught
04-02-08, 10:57 PM
Point taken, but come on, give me something to start with! Point me in the direction at least!

Kadark
04-02-08, 10:59 PM
Point taken, but come on, give me something to start with! Point me in the direction at least!

And God said, "Let there be Google!" And there was Google.

skaught
04-02-08, 11:02 PM
And God said, "Let there be Google!" And there was Google.

What the hell is google??? :shrug: Oh, gee, am I being as transparent as someone else on this thread? heh heh...

nirakar
04-02-08, 11:25 PM
I don't care if you leave or not, but you might at least own up to the relatively convenient nature of your arrival, considering you were just recently banned from another forum for stirring the pot. You've admitted that you came here because you thought there were a lot of smart people that posted on this forum. Don't feign surprise when those same people use their time-tested radar to sniff out what looks like a troll. Frankly, you're just too many places at once for it all to be believable. Maybe there is no fire, but there is certainly plenty of smoke.

Oh, and btw, nice looking family.



God damn stupid rude jerks. You should not have posted the photo 15ofthe19;1805066. Doesn't anybody remember being a kid? There is one thing for BarbieGirl to learn here; she needs to protect her privacy better.

BarbieGirl, don't give out your email address. Don't use your photo for an avatar. Don't use the same name wherever you go.

Anybody posting email addresses, expect to be spammed.

Parents, if you and your kids can't talk about many topics, don't blame your kids.

I hope that in the future teenagers can find decent places to ask questions and post their thoughts. Growing up is confusing enough; having to rely on other kids, TV and porn sites for information is a form of informational poverty.

Don't feign surprise when those same people use their time-tested radar to sniff out what looks like a troll.

You think she has to feign surprise? You went looking for a troll and found a teenager. Great. And you are proud of your yourself. You guys owe her an apology.

skaught
04-02-08, 11:36 PM
God damn stupid rude jerks. Doesn't anybody remember being a kid? There is one thing for BarbieGirl to learn here; she needs to protect her privacy better.

BarbieGirl, don't give out your email address. Don't use your photo for an avatar. Don't use the same name wherever you go.

Anybody posting email addresses, expect to be spammed.

Parents, if you and your kids can't talk about many topics, don't blame your kids.

I hope that in the future teenagers can find decent places to ask questions and post their thoughts. Growing up is confusing enough; having to rely on other kids, TV and porn sites for information is a form of informational poverty.

Oh good God are you really that GD blind!?!?! Open your eyes and look at the facts! Jesus you must be in league with Barbie or something, cause even an idiot could see past Barbies BS.

skaught
04-02-08, 11:37 PM
God damn stupid rude jerks. Doesn't anybody remember being a kid? There is one thing for BarbieGirl to learn here; she needs to protect her privacy better.

BarbieGirl, don't give out your email address. Don't use your photo for an avatar. Don't use the same name wherever you go.

Anybody posting email addresses, expect to be spammed.

Parents, if you and your kids can't talk about many topics, don't blame your kids.

I hope that in the future teenagers can find decent places to ask questions and post their thoughts. Growing up is confusing enough; having to rely on other kids, TV and porn sites for information is a form of informational poverty.

Oh yeah and, when I get home tonight, Im going to change my avatar to a picture of my face just to spite you!

Michael
04-02-08, 11:51 PM
Wow, this was one of the most interesting threads. Not due to the OP but on the sleuthing. But, two things, is Barbie really a teenage or really a cop? I didn't bother going to the other threads or other sites. And secondly, if Barbie is a kid, then I don't think it's appropriate to post a pic of her and her family and if she is not a kid then I don't think it's appropriate for whom ever to use a her picture as an avatar. That's just creepy.

So could someone do a summary for those of us to lazy to backtrack :)

BarbieGirl14
04-03-08, 12:10 AM
What I don't understand, is if I was a cop, why is my history so clear? Wouldn't it be easy to tell the admin i'm a cop and ask him to cooperate.

Also this would be entrapment.. which is illegal. So if I was a cop, what i'm doing would be illegal. Kinda contradicts itself.

Next, if I wanted to lure a pedofile, I would say i'm 12.. 14 in my opinion isn't that naive. Also, I wouldn't make such intellectual threads. I'd make a thread maby asking for help with division. It's obvious older men like dumb girls who are easy to manipulate. Does a girl studying phisics, chemistry, politcs, and philosophy really make a pedophile think he can manipulate me.

In addition, I would not come on a site with smart people. It's people on this site who improve society. I'd go on a teen site.

Next, why would I try to entrap boys on an adult when I had to LIE, and say I was 18 just to be on it. Therefore any boy who talked to me isn't at fault because acording to me, I'm 18. I explained why I went on that adult site. I learned alot too. I'm less ignorant because of it.

I'm guessing you got my pics from mocospace. Considering I use BarbieGirl for almost all my user names, I must be a retarded cop.


My biggest problem is that, this is a site where everyone is obviously smarter then average. So why is it I have to explain all this to you. It's common sense. My only explanation is that you want me gone for a different reason...


Lastly, cop is a pretty cheap paying job. Obviously i know more then average because I read alot, enjor learning, and constantly think about all this stuff. My dad and I talk about this daily. Why would someone with the intellectual capacity as me work for such a cheap paying job. I'm 14, and I think i'm smarter then them. Not because there dumb, but because I put more interest into learning and understanding.

Now... right now, even if you guys said fine... we will believe her. In the back of your minds, you will always be thinking "she may be a cop". In this sense you will obviously not ever hit on me. So really as a cop, my cover is blown. I should ditch this site, learn from my mistakes, and try again some where else. Yet here I am. Trying to pursuade you i'm real. Because this is a great forum to learn in, and I don't think its fair to be forced to leave due to some speculations some jealous people made.

Please tell me this changes your mind, because I dont feel like trying to find another site and starting all over. Have you ever tried to verify your email on a cell..... No copy and paste, and no links in your email. So I have to copy the whole link into a book, then type it in address bar.

So.... ok ty for reading

15ofthe19
04-03-08, 12:20 AM
All I said was you have a nice looking family. No reason to get all worked up.

BarbieGirl14
04-03-08, 12:50 AM
It's ok... yuan already wrecked everything for me anyways... I didn't do anything wrong, I was honestly learning... This site made me think so much more... you know how you feel when your walking down the hall of school... kids yelling around you.. and your just staring off into space contemplating and trying to further understand the concept you just read... Thats what I love doing. That is something a dumb cop "and hedge have to be dumb to put together such an obvious... thing.." will never be able to connect to. Because there in a whole nother world. A world where sports scores, and beer is what the contemplate through out there day. They live in a world where they support our troops, and honestly believe barry obama is a democrat and isnt a socialist. They dont care about consumption taxes because in there mind, there to small to change the nation, or the world.

Now, i'm going to have to pray to find another site that matches this. Then spend 2 hours verifying my email. Then I can never use this name or even my OWN picture again because people could relate me to some dumb girl in another science forum who allegedly is a cop.

So sorry for the sarcasm, but thank you for completely making me sad and depressed, and you wrecked my week I think....

gendanken
04-03-08, 01:06 AM
1st I think you misread barbiegirl14, she is not a cop. I find her believable; don't insult our little sisters just because you want to fuck them. 2nd, she had an intellectual question that nobody answered because science does not have an accurate answer yet
Barbie chicky's being misread becuase she's not readable.

Apparently purposely done- to what end? I don't know. Is it Chris Hansen fishing for pedophiles? Are we going to be on Dateline??!! Is my hair ok? Am I nippling??!


I'm moderator itching to moderate. Already banned forum11.
Absane:
these people seem to not understand is, is that you are sharing your body with someone when you have sex. Plenty of bad things could happen when you do this.
Like what?

"Bad" is a root canal, cancer, eviction notices, car catching fire, getting audited, foreclosures and government.

What is so 'bad' about an emotional idiot making more of sex than mere fucking?

Roman
04-03-08, 01:08 AM
I've been here for nearly four years, and nearly every time a girl shows up, a handful of members become absolutely obsessed about them not being a girl and drive them to leave. In recent months, an evangelist was driven off (sandy), and several years ago, some chick, whose name I can't recall, even posted webcam pics with writing and stuff to prove that she was, in fact, a hot girl on a forum full of greasy nerds. So, you're not that special.



Shit. I have an overwhelming urge to defend you.

gendanken
04-03-08, 01:26 AM
cutsiesomething:
Oxytocin is the "closeness" hormone apparently. And men have more of this hormone after a sexual encounter while women generally have higher levels all of the time
Its also the hormone responsible for the spine breaking torture of uterine contractions.

The lovable culprit behind fibrous tumors, awwww.
The hormone that makes the areola so sensetive a suckling babe can chew it down to a raw-looking disk of pepperoni in one feeding.
Ahh, love. You girls are taught to want to love him, not necessarily built so.

Absane:

BUT I do know a few things about the effects of high testosterone levels. When I leave the gym everyday, I feel very masculine. I feel like I want to punch people in the face and treat sluts the way they deserve to be treated: like a toy that is to be thrown away after it's used. It feels as if nothing can stop me.
And then you'll sulk in corner becuase she said 'no'. Or rolled her eyes, or thinks your friend is, like, cuter and stuff.

Modern man is a comedy- the scrawniest Viking had to beat a woman to rape her yet you, with that cancerous musculature courtesy of The Gym, are rendered powerless by the simple flick of her hair.

I can almost hear you gargling that testosterone.

Flex that bicep! Grrrrrrrrr

skaught
04-03-08, 01:30 AM
argh. what are the other sites she's on?

gendanken
04-03-08, 01:32 AM
Shit. I have an overwhelming urge to defend you.
A little Miralax will cure that.


I've been here for nearly four years, and nearly every time a girl shows up, a handful of members become absolutely obsessed about them not being a girl and drive them to leave. In recent months, an evangelist was driven off (sandy), and several years ago, some chick, whose name I can't recall, even posted webcam pics with writing and stuff to prove that she was, in fact, a hot girl on a forum full of greasy nerds. So, you're not that special.

"Nearly every time" is not 2 girls out of thousands.

Roman
04-03-08, 01:37 AM
A little Miralax will cure that.[quote]

Still into poop, I see.

[QUOTE=gendanken;1805174]"Nearly every time" is not 2 girls out of thousands.

Fine.
Just the really liek omg ones then.
All two of them.

gendanken
04-03-08, 01:45 AM
Just the really liek omg ones then.
All two of them.
Allright.

And if I dipped a cat covered in fleas in a bath would you call that an 'obsession' or 'mercy'?


Still into poop, I see.

You just had the urge to defened a stupid clit on tha intrawebz.

It is therefore not little Gendanken who's privy to rolling in shit.

gendanken
04-03-08, 01:47 AM
Barbiesomething:


sorry for the bad grammer and stuff... its 3am... kinda upset lol

That charming bad grammar is Sciforum pussy-juice.

Roman
04-03-08, 01:54 AM
And if I dipped a cat covered in fleas in a bath would you call that an 'obsession' or 'mercy'?

What if I dipped a cat into a bath of fleas? Or ticks. Yeah, ticks. Let em drain that cat dry.

Err, what were we talking about?


You just had the urge to defened a stupid clit on tha intrawebz.

It is therefore not little Gendanken who's privy to rolling in shit.

I guess... I guess, yeah.
This shit is too hilarious to just chase off.

Michael
04-03-08, 02:00 AM
BG welcome to Scifourms,

low testosterone high estrogen = s*x to feel closer
and high testosterone low estrogen = s*x for pleasure and lust

What do you think??You know, it's funny, but sex is taboo in most of science and when it is spoken about it's spoken about in an analytical way.

I sometimes teach in a Medschool and I can say that it is pretty much not spoken about - other than in a Dr. Spock sort of impersonal manner.

So, does testosterone and estrogen levels play an important role in intimacy? Well, probably yes. Low level testosterone can reduce sex drive. I think women are even given testosterone to increase sex drive.

There may also be something else at play. Male animals (including humans) do not have a 9 month wait period and so it is to a males evolutionary advantage to genetically spread the love. Impregnate as many females as possible. A female on the other hand should be choosy because she must invest a lot more energy into the outcome. It would be my guess that yes either steroid hormone probably plays a part but I would argue that it is much more fundamental than just these two hormones and probably has a structural basis in the brain CNS.

Well maybe.

Or maybe these hormones have such a dramatic effect on the brain at an early age that the changes wrought determine affection well into adulthood.

Or it may be a the expression of receptors on particular cells that is more the key.

Probably a combination of these any many things.


How's that?
Michael

PS: It really doesn't matter if you are a cop or a 14 year old girl. What is supposed to matter is the question. There are some weirdo on this board - try not to be one of them :)

gendanken
04-03-08, 02:01 AM
Err, what were we talking about?

We were talking about raping Barbie's 14 year old cunt with an Opuntia and how this would get me banned for saying so.

We were also talking about how you are now obligated to obey me because I am now your moderator.

<----has The Power.

Roman
04-03-08, 02:04 AM
I had a girl tell me once that arm hair is an indicator of performance in bed. Something about the hair being due to higher testosterone levels.




You can braid your arm hair, can't you gendy?

[edit]
So this is how they coax you back? Immunity? Niiiice.

BarbieGirl14
04-03-08, 02:13 AM
It's really good Michael, thank you.

I didn't at all think about the 9 months... That does explain alot while girls are more selective and boys are more... spreading the love as you say...

Thank you for opening my eyes to that. =D

gendanken
04-03-08, 02:14 AM
Micheal:
I sometimes teach in a Medschool and I can say that it is pretty much not spoken about - other than in a Dr. Spock sort of impersonal manner.

You... teach in a Medical school yet only 'think' that testosterone is used to enhance libido? Its most certainly used as a treatment.

Where and what do you teach?


really doesn't matter if you are a cop or a 14 year old girl. What is supposed to matter is the question. There are some weirdo on this board - try not to be one of them
Flaunting "virginity" for the greasy nerds to lick its asshole is not asking a question.

She never had one.

Roman
04-03-08, 02:17 AM
Stop stealing my lines.

BarbieGirl14
04-03-08, 02:18 AM
Or my question was so intellectual and deep, that you couldnt grasp your mind around any part of the concept other then i'm a virgin.

Maby I should make a thread asking why guys like virgins.. your head might explode.

gendanken
04-03-08, 02:24 AM
Barbie:
Or my question was so intellectual and deep, that you couldnt grasp your mind around any part of the concept other then i'm a virgin.


I don't think so, hun.

'Intellectual' and 'deep' is not the regurgitated manure you don't even dignify by making it legible.

What the fuck was your 'question' then?

gendanken
04-03-08, 02:25 AM
And by the way, Roman.

I'm having you banned for hurting my feelings.

Michael
04-03-08, 02:27 AM
gendanken,

It's getting late. I tried to made the point that testosterone has a lot of effects on the body, it even protects against osteo (as lots of little old frail lady's can testify to). It does have an effect on libido as well as does estrogen.

But I think that we can agree that the differences between women and men have to do with energy investment with the men having evolved to be less picky and women being evolved to be more picky. I've sometimes heard lay women say they are more evolved, while men are still in a lower animal state. And really beleif it. A kind of ad hoc explanation for male promiscuity. I try to explain that's just not the case - we have evolved to try and impregnate as many females as is possible.

And so, the point was, it's not so simple as to just be the sex steroids or oxytocin but probably receptor equilibriums, autocrine feedbacks, and a whole host of different things.

The question is being studied by many people - me not being one other them.

Lastly, gendanken, if you thin BG is a girl then don't act like a twit and if you think BG is a cop then just answer the question.

BG, you should change your avatar at the very least to something neutral like a tree or cloud or whatever and maybe your online name as well.

Michael

Michael
04-03-08, 02:30 AM
Oh, did Sandy really get run right off the forum?

She also was so freaken far right wing Xian it's not all that surprising but people were a lot more aggressive with her. Sometimes I was shocked at what some people I know are quite intelligent would write.

Then again we all can pissed now anfd again.

gendanken
04-03-08, 02:54 AM
But I think that we can agree that the differences between women and men have to do with energy investment with the men having evolved to be less picky and women being evolved to be more picky.
Joy, another biological imperative-or.

If this were the case, then what of modern promiscuity? Your modern woman calibrates the act of dating on a fundamentally different level than your mother did.

She's become a Vagina Monlogue- a woman is likelier to agonize over hair dye, investing more energy into choosing between Peat Aburn or Autumn Red than she will sleeping with Joey or Jake.

Do you even listen to them?

Both sexes share the same hormones.

I've sometimes heard lay women ...
No, you have a hard time laying women.....

Lastly, gendanken, if you thin BG is a girl then don't act like a twit and if you think BG is a cop then just answer the question.

If Barbiegirl is a girl, then I'll milk as much fun out of her as I would a dildo.

And if I could actually believe that mutilated string of entrail she's posting up as ~deep intellectual thinking~ is written by one competent enough for law enforcement, then I have no right to being her superior.

gendanken
04-03-08, 03:48 AM
Ahem.
I'll ask it again- Michael:

Where and what do you teach?

BarbieGirl14
04-03-08, 04:39 AM
Gendankan or w.e ur name is..

I'm sorry but your not using any logic... all your doing is hurting my feelings... your a troll... pls stop or ill put you on ignore

Enmos
04-03-08, 07:10 AM
Gendankan or w.e ur name is..

I'm sorry but your not using any logic... all your doing is hurting my feelings... your a troll... pls stop or ill put you on ignore

You can't, she's a mod.

By the way, cop or not.. this is crossing the line Gendanken:
We were talking about raping Barbie's 14 year old cunt with an Opuntia and how this would get me banned for saying so.

We were also talking about how you are now obligated to obey me because I am now your moderator.

<----has The Power.

shorty_37
04-03-08, 08:08 AM
We were talking about raping Barbie's 14 year old cunt with an Opuntia and how this would get me banned for saying so.

We were also talking about how you are now obligated to obey me because I am now your moderator.

<----has The Power.




If Barbiegirl is a girl, then I'll milk as much fun out of her as I would a dildo.





I would love to know how this person is now a new moderator here :confused:

Enmos
04-03-08, 08:16 AM
I would love to know how this person is now a new moderator here :confused:

That's what I want to know. If this is the example they're setting..

shorty_37
04-03-08, 08:20 AM
Exactly I guess this is how every member can act from now on. They can use vulgar language to knock other members down on a regular basis. That is all I have ever seen this Gendanken do around here.

Spud Emperor
04-03-08, 08:58 AM
Exactly I guess this is how every member can act from now on. They can use vulgar language to knock other members down on a regular basis.

Thank God! A new age of freedom of expression... a welcome change from the draconian, Victorian, outmoded, outdated, Americo-linear, religio-fascist crap we've been served up in recent times...expression of understanding to other current mods with a dash of " come up to speed dudes!"

Absane
04-03-08, 09:24 AM
And then you'll sulk in corner becuase she said 'no'. Or rolled her eyes, or thinks your friend is, like, cuter and stuff.

Modern man is a comedy- the scrawniest Viking had to beat a woman to rape her yet you, with that cancerous musculature courtesy of The Gym, are rendered powerless by the simple flick of her hair.

Man has a different psychology since the Viking era but not physiologically. You own a vagina, right?

I can almost hear you gargling that testosterone.

Flex that bicep! Grrrrrrrrr

Who the fuck cares about biceps? zOMG do dem curlz.... I can feel da burn!!!111

Not me.

Gendankan or w.e ur name is..

I'm sorry but your not using any logic... all your doing is hurting my feelings... your a troll... pls stop or ill put you on ignore

Cry?

skaught
04-03-08, 09:48 AM
My diagnosis:
1.) BG is a cop. Reasoning: She is trying so hard to get us all to believe that she is not. Lets look at psychology. Lets pretend I was a pedophile. I might read this forum and at first come to the conclusion that she is a cop. "I would think, Damn, shes not real :(". But then I would see everything she has done to defend herself which is all very convincing might I say. Her purpose her is to get us all to believe she is a 14 yr old virgin, and to put an end to this thread.

Just delete this thread pls...

If she were to succeed in this, surviving this thread, then a pedophile would probably be convinced that she is actually a 14 yr old virgin, and he would by this point certainly go for her do to all the other stuff she has posted, i.e. flaunting her virginity, flaunting her attraction to older men, flaunting her masturbatory habits on other racier sites.
If she were really a 14 yr old who actually is as hurt by this thread as she claims, she would by now have changed her avatar as has been suggested numerous times. Her very insistance that she is not a cop, combined with her failure to change her avatar and profile info proves that she is a cop, or at least perhaps working for police. She may in fact be a 14 year old girl who is in one of those programs that police have for youth. Where I live they are called Explorers. They help set up sting operations at liquor stores/bars/cigarette retailers.

2.) BG is not a cop, or an explorer or anything, she just loves this attention. Shes claiming that she is hurt by this thread, and hurt by people saying these things, but yet again, I bring up the point of failure to change her avatar and profile info. If she was really bothered by this, she would change everything and make it so its impossible to know that she is a naive 14 yr old girl. If she was really here for the "intellectual discussions" she wouldn't be making it so obvious that she is a 14 yr old horny virgin! Still, I think this is just more evidence to back up assumption #1.

Yeah, I slept on it, woke up, got myself updated and came up with this!

shichimenshyo
04-03-08, 10:09 AM
alright, this is boring now. Who cares if shes a cop or not if, just dont try and get in her pants and it wont really matter. There are much better things to talk about here.

domesticated om
04-03-08, 10:12 AM
My diagnosis:
1.) BG is a cop. Reasoning: She is trying so hard to get us all to believe that she is not.

LOL
The problem with bait is that something actually has to bite it. If BG is bait, and we are participants in an international science-oriented message board, then who gives a shit who she is?
All the fisherman is going to get [read: should be getting] is a science oriented answer to the question. If you'd think a couple of moves ahead, you'd realize the fisherman will move elsewhere if the fish aren't biting........well, either that, or get hooked on the forum and turn into a legit participant LOL.

skaught
04-03-08, 10:24 AM
... There are much better things to talk about here.

Yes but this is just so engaging!!!

Syzygys
04-03-08, 10:32 AM
The only sites I go on...

I started to believe you are really who you say. A good advice, delete post #125 with all the personal info. You shouldn't give out on the net so much about you.

Otherwise your mom is hot...

Personally I don't like teenagers, and there are enough ignorant people here already. At least you have the excuse of being young. So again, nothing personal against you, I just don't like people that much... :)

BarbieGirl14
04-03-08, 11:02 AM
Ok your right. This is pointless. The harder I try the more I seem like i'm lieing. On the contrary, if I don't try, You still believe I lie.

So lets just say I did lie.

From now on you all can think of me as a cop. I will still study and participate on this forum as I always did, but in your minds you will know i'm a cop.

If anyone tries to act gross, or pms me, you and I both can remind them that I am a cop. This will in turn keep gross boys away, and you won't have to treat me as immature.

I'm not going to change my pic. Mostly because i'm on my CELL. you guys kept forgeting I can do all the functions of a computer. Besides, why should I appease you.

Ty for reading bye =D

15ofthe19
04-03-08, 11:08 AM
Why don't you have a computer? Why do you only post from a cell phone? It seems to me like that would be annoying to squint to see a tiny little screen all day.

BarbieGirl14
04-03-08, 11:49 AM
I love games like ffxi and flyff and sro and rakion and stuff... and dad doesnt like that im on so much so he only lets me on once in ahwile and then i can go on on weekends sometimes

Stryder
04-03-08, 12:22 PM
Barbie,
I hope you realise that a lot of posters here at Sciforums can be quite rude and vulgar, unfortunately this is nothing new. Us Moderators (http://www.sciforums.com/usergroups.php) are here to try and clean up after peoples outbursts and sometimes protect them from themselves. If you spot objectional material or behaviour here, please tell a Moderator so we can deal with it. (This goes the same for any other poster).

Personal attacks on this site (Like singling a user out and hurtling abuse at them) is a bannable offence and it will not be tolerated.

On the subject of any thoughts you have, I know from experience with my sister when she was younger, she was all too quick for growing up and found herself in many situations that she didn't tell me about until it was too late. Now I can point out what concerns you should have from "Life Experience" and perhaps what you should concentrate on.

Obviously Identifying what you want to do in life is important, Make sure you knuckle down in College. While obviously you'll have distractions appear from time to time (wild parties, boys and things that you shouldn't get involved with like drink/drugs) what should be important to you is setting yourself up for a career in the future and this usually requires being serious about your schooling.

Obviously you might have teachers or perhaps your father perhaps "bore" you about how important it is, however once you've studied and picked a direction when you reach 21 years, the world would be your oyster, You can do whatever you want and be your own strong, independent woman.

The path you don't want to take is getting involved with a boy or man for that matter, get pregnant in your late teens and have a child. It would mess up you life, you'd find it difficult to ever obtain a decent career choice.
While some ladies on this website might have had children at a young age and perhaps don't feel a failure in their current way of life, I'm sure they sometimes they think of regrets that perhaps they didn't hold off on making that choice until they were through their education.

You see education is important because while you are young, your mind is pliable to any given direction as you get older learning becomes harder, it requires more time. Namely 6-7 years in education while a teenager is like 15+ years of education as an adult. So while getting educated might seem a chore to a teenager, it's actually saving you years of retraining in the future.

I'd suggest you think about what you want to do in life, in fact I glimpsed your post on what you mentioned about your father saying about what is important in life. While working out where you want to go is important, as without working out a goal you'll be walking through life like a lost soul. There are many Career choices and obviously being on a Science forum you should have the chance to explore what you are interested in. (remember to pick a career that you are interested in and enjoy, no point torturing yourself just for the sake of having a direction, enjoying it will aid your goal.)

I'd also suggest telling the Boys/Guys where to go should they try anything, I'm sure you'll be attractive at the age of 21 and will probably be fighting them off even then, so there is no point rushing into things now.

shorty_37
04-03-08, 12:32 PM
Barbie,
I hope you realise that a lot of posters here at Sciforums can be quite rude and vulgar, unfortunately this is nothing new. Us Moderators (http://www.sciforums.com/usergroups.php) are here to try and clean up after peoples outbursts and sometimes protect them from themselves.
.

WTF?????? It was one of your STAFF! a mod that was hurling that most vulgar insults at her...

What do you have to say about that Stryder?

Enmos
04-03-08, 12:35 PM
Barbie,
I hope you realise that a lot of posters here at Sciforums can be quite rude and vulgar, unfortunately this is nothing new. Us Moderators (http://www.sciforums.com/usergroups.php) are here to try and clean up after peoples outbursts and sometimes protect them from themselves. If you spot objectional material or behaviour here, please tell a Moderator so we can deal with it. (This goes the same for any other poster).

I already reported it, as did some others.
Anyway, you can see Gendanken's posts with your own eyes just one page back (post 129 for example).
As it's a moderators job to "try and clean up after peoples outbursts and sometimes protect them from themselves" I expect that something will done about Gendanken's behavior. If not, the moderators are using double standards.

Stryder
04-03-08, 01:41 PM
Gendanken will be warned and asked to apologise to Barbiegirl, if Barbiegirl took offence.

Not everyone totally agreed on her instatement to the moderation team, however we were a minority. Sometimes you have to let people have the reigns to see whether it changes them or brings out the worst in them. I was concerned about Gendy being too emotional, perhaps she should of been given a little more warning about curbing her emotions "as a Moderator" than just the post in the "Secret forum".

I'm hoping she won't make the same mistake twice.

I apologise to thread OP for peoples Hijacking of this thread, it happens from time to time. Usually we moderate "Off-topic" comments out, however doing so in this instance would deny posters an explanation.

Absane
04-03-08, 01:43 PM
Gendanken is Xev, version 2.0. SF has survived Xev. Members like Gendanken make SF a better place to me. Members like BarbieGirl14OMGLOLZw.e.cellphone make this place worse for everyone (unless you are a prepubescent boy).

Enmos
04-03-08, 01:47 PM
Gendanken will be warned and asked to apologise to Barbiegirl, if Barbiegirl took offence.

Not everyone totally agreed on her instatement to the moderation team, however we were a minority. Sometimes you have to let people have the reigns to see whether it changes them or brings out the worst in them. I was concerned about Gendy being too emotional, perhaps she should of been given a little more warning about curbing her emotions "as a Moderator" than just the post in the "Secret forum".

I'm hoping she won't make the same mistake twice.

I apologise to thread OP for peoples Hijacking of this thread, it happens from time to time. Usually we moderate "Off-topic" comments out, however doing so in this instance would deny posters an explanation.

Thanks :)

skaught
04-03-08, 03:20 PM
Ok your right. This is pointless. The harder I try the more I seem like i'm lieing. On the contrary, if I don't try, You still believe I lie.

So lets just say I did lie.

From now on you all can think of me as a cop. I will still study and participate on this forum as I always did, but in your minds you will know i'm a cop.

If anyone tries to act gross, or pms me, you and I both can remind them that I am a cop. This will in turn keep gross boys away, and you won't have to treat me as immature.

I'm not going to change my pic. Mostly because i'm on my CELL. you guys kept forgeting I can do all the functions of a computer. Besides, why should I appease you.

Ty for reading bye =D

Again, I tell you, dont flaunt the fact that you are a 14 yr old virgin. If you want to be left alone and respected as an intellectual then stay anonymous. For all you know I could be George Bush. But if I flauntyed that, I would never get to talk about the things that I would come here to talk about. As long as you make it so obvious that you are a 14 year old virgin, people will continue to treat you the way you have been treated on this thread.
Another thing I would liek to add, is that if you are a 14 yr old virgin female with questions about sex, this IS NOT THE PLACE TO DO THAT!!! those conversations are best left with Mom and Dad. By initiating a conversation about sex, you are asking for trouble. Keep your threads/posts/questions to science/philosophy etc.

domesticated om
04-03-08, 03:58 PM
Stryder -- kill it. That's my vote.
reduce this sucker down to 1/2 page. Terminate with extreme prejudice.

nirakar
04-03-08, 04:24 PM
Again, I tell you, dont flaunt the fact that you are a 14 yr old virgin.


Could a 14 year old boy flaunt the fact that he is a 14 year old virgin? Muslim Martyrs get 72 virgins in heaven? Is this virgin obsession instinctual or learned? Should women wear burqa's because men can't manage their lust?

Another thing I would liek to add, is that if you are a 14 yr old virgin female with questions about sex, this IS NOT THE PLACE TO DO THAT!!! those conversations are best left with Mom and Dad.

Did you talk to mom and dad about sex? I didn't. My sisters didn't. I don't think my friends did. Our parents had to much shame and awkwardness and they passed it on to us.


By initiating a conversation about sex, you are asking for trouble. Keep your threads/posts/questions to science/philosophy etc. Why is that asking for trouble? Do we want a better world? If yes, then help the young to be smarter than we were.

What are we doing here anyway?

Most everything posted on every topic at sciforums is fairly unsophisticated. We don't have some high intellectual standard that needs to be safeguarded.

15ofthe19
04-03-08, 04:43 PM
Did anybody else notice that some stuff disappeared out of this thread sometime in the middle of the night?

Thank goodness for the cache. Nice pics, btw.

shorty_37
04-03-08, 04:59 PM
A lot of posts disappeared today!

Fraggle Rocker
04-03-08, 05:09 PM
I've been here for nearly four years, and nearly every time a girl shows up, a handful of members become absolutely obsessed about them not being a girl and drive them to leave. In recent months, an evangelist was driven off (sandy). . . .Sandy was not driven off. We exchanged several PMs. In my own words, what happened is that it finally dawned on her that this is not a community in which she could be happy, because she wants to be able to make extraordinary claims without providing extraordinary evidence and you just can't get away with that on a website with the word "science" in its name. She was not being persecuted because of her gender, she was being challenged because of her statements, and she didn't feel like providing the requested support for them.BG welcome to Scifourms, You know, it's funny, but sex is taboo in most of science and when it is spoken about it's spoken about in an analytical way. . . .That hasn't been the case on SciForums historically. Admittedly it doesn't come up often because we just don't feel like answering trollish questions, like Darky in his Klingon anthropologist persona posting, "How can I obtain a female with which to perform copulation?" But we've had some real bodice-ripper discussions over the years. There was one lady about four years ago whose husband had talked her into doing four-ways with strangers every weekend and she was so blown away by it that she didn't quite know what to do to get out of it. I think that was probably the highlight of the genre.

I'm sorry I missed this thread until it came unglued because as the Elder here I try to give good answers to questions about sex even if they aren't quite the answers that were requested or expected. For the precise reason that there are a lot of young people who have only heard it from their biology teachers and their peers. Too much "sex education" and not enough parenting!So, does testosterone and estrogen levels play an important role in intimacy? Well, probably yes. Low level testosterone can reduce sex drive. I think women are even given testosterone to increase sex drive.It's the ovaries that secrete testosterone and women who have their ovaries removed (typically by ovariohysterectomy) usually come out of it with zero libido. (I have been told this by three women in their forties, one of whom is my doctor so I figure she knows what she's talking about.) Not only do they have no sex "drive," but they're practically incapable of performing the act physically. Too tight, no lubrication, etc. Yet they still want to be able to do it, which speaks to Barb's original question about lust versus some higher emotion. That's why they get testosterone--actually an estrogen/testosterone combination--it makes them feel halfway normal again.PS: It really doesn't matter if you are a cop or a 14 year old girl. What is supposed to matter is the question. There are some weirdo on this board - try not to be one of them.Thank you! We're scientists so we're supposed to speak to the question, not the questioner. Remember, there's no such thing as a stupid question, but geeze there sure are a lot of smart answers. Especially on this thread.We were talking about raping. . . .Gendy... one Moderator to another... please dial it back.
Barbie: I don't think so, hun. 'Intellectual' and 'deep' is not the regurgitated manure you don't even dignify by making it legible. What the fuck was your 'question' then?Gendy... Gendy... Gendy... You have to resist the temptation to respond this way. We all do it and I've done it so I'm not going to get involved in the secret guild discussion of this matter which I'm sure is raging right now. Just remember that the rule about personal insults applies to us too. You can loosen up on somebody else's board, but not on your own.I would love to know how this person is now a new moderator here.You want to know why? Really? Because she volunteered, that's why. There's an awful lot of work to do around here and it's all done by unpaid volunteers in their spare time. Gendy has been around here as long or longer than I have (I came on board in 2002) and we all know her and trust her. She can apologize for her own gaffe, but it's nothing compared to some of the crap we have to clean up around here every day. Being Moderator of Free Thoughts is probably the hardest job we've got. You have to figure out when a thread that by definition is "free thoughts" has finally gone off topic.

shorty_37
04-03-08, 05:22 PM
You want to know why? Really? Because she volunteered, that's why.

Well of course she did. This way not only can she insult members with her vulgar remarks, she can punish them now when they talk back. She must be in heaven.

shichimenshyo
04-03-08, 05:23 PM
Well of course she did. This way not only can she insult members with her vulgar remarks, she can punish them now when they talk back. She must be in heaven.

You just love to rock the boat me thinks. ;)

Michael
04-03-08, 05:29 PM
Ahem.
I'll ask it again- Michael:

Where and what do you teach?I saw your question. I work at an University. Which one doesn't matter. I could work as a sales check out clerk for all it really matters. Agreed?

The fact still remains there is a different energy investment between men and women in terms of offspring. We both agree to this. There are different amounts of proteins and protein receptors expressed by male and women. No disagreement there. The equilibrium of proteins and receptors are therefor different. This may partially explain some of the behaviors noticed between men and women.

This is theoretically a science forum. Probably BG is a 50 year old guy simply having fun watching the roaches scurry out of walls at the mere mention of a teenage 'virgin' girl. I've never in the 4 years I have been on this forum seen people act so sick in the head as I have on this thread. THAT in itself makes this thread more than educational.

Michael

domesticated om
04-03-08, 05:32 PM
Sandy was not driven off. We exchanged several PMs. In my own words, what happened is that it finally dawned on her that this is not a community in which she could be happy, because she wants to be able to make extraordinary claims without providing extraordinary evidence and you just can't get away with that on a website with the word "science" in its name. She was not being persecuted because of her gender, she was being challenged because of her statements, and she didn't feel like providing the requested support for them.

I don't think Sandy even conceptualized the notion of "support" from the beginning. Rather, I'd say she just didn't know anything and simply robotcially poured out "meme-compliant" data within the context of her own narrow microcosm.

Exhumed
04-03-08, 05:38 PM
I saw your question. I work at an University. Which one doesn't matter. I could work as a sales check out clerk for all it really matters. Agreed?


Agreed. That info can give a messed up person some serious ammunition. This guy on another forum posted about his break and with pictures, and some of the things mentioned were his university, his professor's subject, pictures of his professor's daughter who he hung out with, and some details about the two of them that I'll leave to your imagination. Someone who saw the thread looked up the professor from the university website and e-mailed him the thread.

skaught
04-03-08, 06:04 PM
nirakar: "Did you talk to mom and dad about sex? I didn't. My sisters didn't. I don't think my friends did. Our parents had to much shame and awkwardness and they passed it on to us."

No I didnt either, but do you really think this is an appropriate place for a 14 year old girl to learn about sex? You said it yourself: "Most everything posted on every topic at sciforums is fairly unsophisticated. We don't have some high intellectual standard that needs to be safeguarded."


"Why is that asking for trouble? Do we want a better world? If yes, then help the young to be smarter than we were."

Hey I cant help it if people treat her like crap because of this. Its just the way it is, and if she flaunts her 14 year old virginity, then she is asking for trouble! Thats just the way it is, I cant change it, and you cant change it.

"What are we doing here anyway?"
*sigh*

"Most everything posted on every topic at sciforums is fairly unsophisticated. We don't have some high intellectual standard that needs to be safeguarded."

Exactly, thats why a 14 year old virgin shouldnt be coming here and flaunting her virginity. especially if she claims to want to be here to learn.

BarbieGirl14
04-03-08, 06:51 PM
Let me attempt to change you view of this.

Flaunt?

I'm 14. How many of you are parents? Do you expect your 14 year old to have had s*x? I'm not sure about you, but my father would be appalled, surprised, disappointed, and furious all at once. Has it occurred to you that maby I didn't assume you all had the generalization in your head that all 14 year olds have had s*x?

Where i'm from, if you even have s*x at my age your shunned and maby even considered a sl*t from your peers. So maby its possible I didn't forsee this... what is it.. this reaction about it. I assumed it was an assumption. I didn't think saying I was a virgin would be that big of a deal because it would have already ben expected.

I feel that who ever chose to use the word "flaunt", because I stated the obvious for any person my age with any normality in accordance to the way I was raised. I think this choice of wording was used for the purpose of manipulation toward you all to make me less credible. Apparently it worked because you all seem to have gravitated toward this word.

I think it is misleading to use the word flaunt considering the circumstances. I do like to express myself freely. I gave enough information to justify and help you understand the reason for the thread.

Please do not think im affended though. I think the person who used the word flaunt the 1st time was clever, and it helped turn your opinions to his side. If this were a presidential debate or something, I may have lost due to his choice of wording. I am learning from this thread. Alot about how you guys think of what a 14 year old should be.

I see alot of sympathy, resentment, hatred, and just plain entertained attitudes toward me. It's good for me to evaluate each one and figure out why each is the way it is. Then hopefully reverse the negative ones.

Even though it's kinda my reputation here, I feel i'll always have skeptisism toward me on this forum, and I'v accepted it.

Thank you for reading =D

Michael
04-03-08, 07:06 PM
The Uni I work at gives an ethical lecture in the medical program where doctors are taught to expect girls of around 12 years old to come in and have questions about sex and also to have had sex. Yes, a lot of people were shocked - especially the mothers in the class. But, tough, this is the reality of the situation today. I think it sucks but that's the fact.

My younger sister got herself pregnant at 15, then dropped out of school and then left home. It was a tough time. She came back after her boy friend left and she was ready to deliver. Now she's 21 has two kids (the boy friend came back - still doesn't work though) and is completing her nursing degree. Life worked out for her - but it was tough. A lot of people said it was good for her to grow up. I think it was sad she had to grow up so soon.

My personal opinion, if I had a daughter, would be to try and stress - wait to Uni. I don't know if that's just my 80s generation talking? But that's the advice anyway. Spend your energy running, learning Chinese calligraphy, learning to play a digereedo, painting, reading. There's no point going to some deviant website and asking questions about sex because it's really not a big mystery and the people there are probably full of nonsense.

I still suggest you change your avatar.

skaught
04-03-08, 07:11 PM
The word flaunt is being used because this whole thread is basically about you and your being a virgin and your conversations about sex. Its like saying "Hey Im a virgin and I talk about sex and wonder about it AND I'M 14!!!" :


So my friends were like talking about how i'm a virgin. They were basicly saying how great it is and how they feel sorry for me that I don't do that...



Like I said earlier, JUST BE ANONYMOUS!!!



Where i'm from, if you even have s*x at my age your shunned and maby even considered a sl*t from your peers. So maby its possible I didn't forsee this... what is it.. this reaction about it. I assumed it was an assumption. I didn't think saying I was a virgin would be that big of a deal because it would have already ben expected.



Really? You could have fooled me when you said:
...They [your friends] were basicly saying how great it [sex] is and how they feel sorry for me that I don't do that...

Mixed messages??? SO what is it, do y'all save it, or give it up???

...

Please do not think im affended though. I think the person who used the word flaunt the 1st time was clever, and it helped turn your opinions to his side. If this were a presidential debate or something, I may have lost due to his choice of wording. I am learning from this thread. Alot about how you guys think of what a 14 year old should be.

I see alot of sympathy, resentment, hatred, and just plain entertained attitudes toward me. It's good for me to evaluate each one and figure out why each is the way it is. Then hopefully reverse the negative ones.

Even though it's kinda my reputation here, I feel i'll always have skeptisism toward me on this forum, and I'v accepted it.

Thank you for reading =D

And I'm done trying to offend you! I'm enjoying this thread and talking with yoiu very much. At first I was convinced you were a cop, Now I really just don't care anymore, I'm just enjoying poking the idiots that are so worked up about it now. The way I see it, if you are a cop, then hey, whatever, I'm not gonna try anything with you, so I got nothign to worry about. And if your a 14 year old girl, then I think you are very intelligent for your age and I'm enjoying debating with you. I just think you need to protect your identity a little better, because showing it off so much has caused you some problems no? People either think you are a cop, or they just want to make damn sure that you are not a cop by being a dick to you before they try to get in your pants.

Enmos
04-03-08, 07:19 PM
..or they just want to make damn sure that you are not a cop by being a dick to you before they try to get in your pants.

Like you ? :D

;)

shichimenshyo
04-03-08, 07:24 PM
The word flaunt is being used because this whole thread is basically about you and your being a virgin and your conversations about sex. Its like saying "Hey Im a virgin and I talk about sex and wonder about it AND I'M 14!!!" :


Like I said earlier, JUST BE ANONYMOUS!!!



Really? You could have fooled me when you said:


Mixed messages??? SO what is it, do y'all save it, or give it up???



And I'm done trying t