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Vega
01-12-08, 09:11 AM
Deliberate induced brain change...a dangerous variety of self-psychotheraphy in modern terminology. The ability to reverse every mental polarity within ones self, just like been pulled through infinity.

Yep I'm talking about LSD!
The nervous system gets into communication with DNA, learns how to decode the genetic blueprint and you have the experience of the future!

This, surely is the royal road to wisdom, the highway of evolution.
Two way traffic between the central nervous system (CNS) and DNA archives via RNA messenger molecules..

The knowledge of systematically learning to dial and tune your own nervous system via biochemical auto-experiments conversing with RNA with your own DNA, decipher the genectic Rosetta stone to get direct experimental knowledge of the evolutionary process!

So what! Shamens have done it for centuries...and still do it today. Isn't Silicon valley a hotbed for most LSD users...probably why most software programmers use it to tap into infinite wisdom!

cosmictraveler
01-12-08, 12:52 PM
Deliberate induced brain change...a dangerous variety of self-psychotheraphy in modern terminology

Very dangerous stuff. There's many types of LSD out there cut with all sorts of shit and it's also different strengths. So how do you know what type your taking or how much? Trust your local drug dealer...no thanks. You can really fuck up someones brain cells with this stuff, not bring enlightenment whatsoever. To use this stuff can only lead to problems down liefs path for you never know just what will happen whenever you take crap that you have no idea what it really is.:(

Vega
01-13-08, 07:57 AM
There is alot of stuff people do everyday that can lead to problems!...Living is risky!!!

Orleander
01-13-08, 09:20 AM
so why make it riskier?

Vega
01-13-08, 09:39 AM
so why make it riskier?
Thats what life's all about...man!
you don't just live it..you ride it!!!

Neildo
01-13-08, 11:19 AM
Just try salvia divinorum. It's legal, natural, has crazier trips, and only lasts 10-30 minutes unlike the many hours of LSD, so it's more flexible when you can use it.

- N

Vega
01-13-08, 11:40 AM
Just try salvia divinorum. It's legal, natural, has crazier trips, and only lasts 10-30 minutes unlike the many hours of LSD, so it's more flexible when you can use it.

- N
That's what my mate was talking about yesterday, said it last a couple mins but it taste like cat's piss!

cosmictraveler
01-13-08, 12:35 PM
That's what my mate was talking about yesterday, said it last a couple mins but it taste like cat's piss!

So what type of LSD have you taken? How many times? What strengths?

Vega
01-13-08, 12:40 PM
So what type of LSD have you taken? How many times? What strengths?
Haven't done any yet,..just wondering if doesn't shutdown my brain for good! Have a few "E"s and a couple magic mushrooms! but looking for that ultimate journey as long as I get back to this reality alive!

cosmictraveler
01-13-08, 12:42 PM
Do you know of someone that has LSD? Why don't you try it yourself before commenting on it?

Vega
01-13-08, 12:47 PM
Do you know of someone that has LSD? Why don't you try it yourself before commenting on it? yep Tim Leary...but I don't want fuck my brains out just yet,..I like to slowly get there

cosmictraveler
01-13-08, 12:52 PM
yep Tim Leary...but I don't want fuck my brains out just yet,..I like to slowly get there

Timothy was a professor at Cal State Berkly while he was taking LSD. He didn't die did he? He just enjoyed the trips he took.

http://www.leary.ru/english/video/

Vega
01-13-08, 12:54 PM
Timothy was a professor at Cal State Berkly while he was taking LSD. He didn't die did he? He just enjoyed the trips he took.

http://www.leary.ru/english/video/
Yeah I was reading "Cosmic Trigger" and his experiences..quite interesting!

cosmictraveler
01-13-08, 02:32 PM
Yeah I was reading "Cosmic Trigger" and his experiences..quite interesting!

The problem with any drug is how it is made and who actually sells it, the pusher. The pusher can add anything to the product to make more money or even sell the product that has nothing in it, a placebo as it were. Timothy Leary made his own LSD and therefore took little risk in his well being. The problem is who do you trust today, those wanting to earn a profit from the sale of the drug or those making the drug? I'd say it could be both and with that you never ever know what you are actually buying or what is in it.

http://deoxy.org/watch/7ldnOcozhQ8

http://deoxy.org/watch/wLC-y3r66Ys

Xelios
01-14-08, 08:23 AM
The problem with any drug is how it is made and who actually sells it, the pusher. The pusher can add anything to the product to make more money or even sell the product that has nothing in it, a placebo as it were. Timothy Leary made his own LSD and therefore took little risk in his well being. The problem is who do you trust today, those wanting to earn a profit from the sale of the drug or those making the drug? I'd say it could be both and with that you never ever know what you are actually buying or what is in it.
Yeah that can be a big problem, with any kind of drug. Another 'side effect' of the stupid drug war. But I'd say it's not as big a problem as most people think. Selling weak product, placebos or lacing with other substances drives people away and can lead to some nasty trouble with shady people, the kind of trouble that that gets you a hefty beating, or worse. The risk is always there though.

Anyone heard of DMT? The trip lasts less than 10 minutes, but it's the most hallucinogenic substance known to man. It's also manufactured by your body naturally and peaks around 3 am in most people (a component of dreams maybe?). Shamans in many tribes have been using it for hundreds of years in the form of Ayahuasca. What's interesting is that DMT comes from many species of plants, but is orally inactive unless it's combined with an MAO inhibitor. So to make an active drug these tribes had to mix two species of plants, one containing DMT and the other containing an MAOI. And this in the middle of the rainforest, with thousands of plant species around. Kind of amazing that they stumbled on this at some point.

Vega
01-14-08, 08:32 AM
Yeah that can be a big problem, with any kind of drug. Another 'side effect' of the stupid drug war. But I'd say it's not as big a problem as most people think. Selling weak product, placebos or lacing with other substances drives people away and can lead to some nasty trouble with shady people, the kind of trouble that that gets you a hefty beating, or worse. The risk is always there though.

Anyone heard of DMT? The trip lasts less than 10 minutes, but it's the most hallucinogenic substance known to man. It's also manufactured by your body naturally and peaks around 3 am in most people (a component of dreams maybe?). Shamans in many tribes have been using it for hundreds of years in the form of Ayahuasca. What's interesting is that DMT comes from many species of plants, but is orally inactive unless it's combined with an MAO inhibitor. So to make an active drug these tribes had to mix two species of plants, one containing DMT and the other containing an MAOI. And this in the middle of the rainforest, with thousands of plant species around. Kind of amazing that they stumbled on this at some point. Tell me more about this DMT and the ingredients that go into it nowadays, I remember someone last weekend having some!! shit!!!

Xelios
01-14-08, 08:48 AM
DMT is just DMT, Dimethyltryptamine. Pure chemical. It's usually small, white or yellow crystals, with yellow being an impure form. It's found in many plants and certain root barks like Mimosa Hostilis and is usually extracted from these since it's fairly hard to manufacture. It's usually smoked in its crystal form and tastes awful, like burning plastic, and peak effect usually happens in less than a minute. It's physically harmless and impossible to overdose on.

The experience can be really intense. Everything from being picked up and thrown across the universe to talking with strange energy beings to seeing impossibly complex objects. The hallucinations are not just strange visual effects, like things melting off walls, but a complete replacement of reality, as in you're actually in a different place.

Mckenna goes through the whole thing pretty well in this recording (http://www.lancerules.com/terence/treeofknowledge2.mp3) at about the 50 minute mark.

Vega
01-14-08, 08:55 AM
DMT is just DMT, Dimethyltryptamine. Pure chemical. It's usually small, white or yellow crystals, with yellow being an impure form. It's found in many plants and certain root barks like Mimosa Hostilis and is usually extracted from these since it's fairly hard to manufacture. It's usually smoked in its crystal form and tastes awful, like burning plastic, and peak effect usually happens in less than a minute. It's physically harmless and impossible to overdose on.

The experience can be really intense. Everything from being picked up and thrown across the universe to talking with strange energy beings to seeing impossibly complex objects. The hallucinations are not just strange visual effects, like things melting off walls, but a complete replacement of reality, as in you're actually in a different place.

Mckenna goes through the whole thing pretty well in this recording (http://www.lancerules.com/terence/treeofknowledge2.mp3) at about the 50 minute mark.
Interesting! I'll check that out in a minute!. Does salvia have the same effect or something else?

Xelios
01-14-08, 11:32 AM
To me Salvia is completely different. It's more of a strange dimensional mindjob, where your perception of the 3D space around you is turned upside down. Like feeling that your arms are some kind of weird jaws opening up into extra dimensions, and your whole body just feels prickly, as if it's being dragged along for the ride through dimensions that suddenly appear around you. I dunno, this stuff is hard to english.

At least that's what I got out of it, I'm not a fan of Salvia because it makes me sweat like a madman every time. Like I just jumped into a pool or something, makes it uncomfortable.

I'd say the only similarity to DMT is the short effect, but it's hard to give a definate answer since drugs affect different people in different ways.

Should mention too that a DMT trip tends to dissolve shortly after, exactly like a dream does after you wake up. It's not uncommon for people to completely forget what happened, other than knowing it was the weirdest thing they've ever experienced. If you never remember your dreams at all you probably won't remember the trip either.

original
01-14-08, 01:10 PM
Is there a known method of increasing the body's output of Dimethyltryptamine (DMT) through normal means? Activities or nutrients, something where you're not inhaling chemicals that taste like burning plastic...

Xelios
01-15-08, 08:46 AM
Not really, at least not enough to give you any effect. There's some thought that maybe certain types of meditation or yogas could trigger the production of DMT, but we're talking about a 'Tibetan monks who've been meditating for 40 years' kind of thing here. Unfortunately DMT is a Schedule I substance so research involving it is hard. Which I find really, really dumb considering your body manufactures the stuff daily, and its addiction potential can't be anything but zero. Technically everyone is guilty of manufacturing and possession here.

The taste is not too bad. I mean, it's bad, but two good lungfulls is all it takes. It's usually done intravenously in research, but oddly enough the effects then are usually different from the smoked form.

There's a very interesting book about DMT written by Dr Rick Strassman. Here's a direct link (http://www.djped.co.uk/Ayahuasca/DMT%20-%20The%20Spirit%20Molecule%20-%20Rick%20Strassman.pdf) to the pdf, 2.3mb. It talks about the history behind DMT, the difficulties in researching it, the conclusions of the research done so far and (most interesting) the experiences as written by the people who took part in his research.

Also might as well mention that 5-MeO-DMT is found on the skin of some toads. It's almost the same as the DMT in your body (chemically N,N-DMT) and has the same kind of effect, though quite a bit less intense. So if you've ever heard stories about people getting high off licking toads, this is it ;)